Ramesh Balsekar - Witnessing And Non-Witnessing

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So many wonderful surprises from Advaita House. Thank you for your kindness. Ramesh helps to make sense of the world! ❤️

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So much love for Ramesh. ❤

[@kathyashby6019]

I do too!!!

[@bilimoriafirdaus]

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[@bilimoriafirdaus]

I want to know Ramesh's view on food. Any preference for veg or ok with non- veg? Thanks!

[@mindfulkayaker7737]

Great Talk Every single day I feel more respect for Ramesh and his teachings Thankyou for sharing .

[@vioricacasu7649]

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[@ANANDSINDHU10]

Thoughts of expectations may arise.. Tremendous surge of Gratidao arises

[@Z.H.72]

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[@bhaghiappaiya9822]

Thanks so much

[@ANANDSINDHU10]

The need to give doesn't depends upon need to recieve...

[@Jeff_TUDONADA]

The whole universe is only one moviment including "you". ALL this "you" can do is just witnessing its own entire moviment

[@dabeezkneez8716]

I feel the reason all answers to this question never satisfies is because the Real question we have is, 'What will the life witnessed be like?'... 'Will it be significantly different? And if so how?' I really want to know how would a realized person's life; especially behaviour and interaction with others differ after realization as compared with before realization? Does one become holier, more ethical, more tolerant, etc etc? Do negative habits persist?

[@lazaroortiz9546]

Great question, dude. It was my question too. I also wanted to know how things would look from their eyes. Well, it definitely has to be different than how an ordinary person perceives the world. But as far as my understanding is concerned, I think witnessing is more like non-judgemental observation where judgment isn't there, or one isn't bothered, not even a bit, by what's been happening around. It's more like an animal-like observation. But as we have a mind with intellect, we often judge activities around us. That's a zoomed-in view of life. But if you zoom out a little bit, you can barely judge anything, and therefore you can only witness. Mind judges only when things fall within its periphery, i.e., only when senses can reach. And all the enjoyment of any happening isn't there judging but in witnessing. Judgment is done through conditionings, while witnessing is done without any pre-existence assumptions or conditions. As far as the latter part of your question is concerned, an enlightened person functions through universal consciousness rather than mind intellect (limited consciousness). Therefore, they automatically become more ethical, holier (if one is religious), more righteous, etc. Their consciousness is merged with universal consciousness, so they function through higher planes of consciousness. To make it even clear, they can be present in different planes of consciousness simultaneously, while we can only be present at the physical level with a little bit of intellectual understanding.

[@kcsnipes]

Pre enlightenment: chop wood carry water After enlightenment: chop wood carry water

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[@dalegriffiths3628]

Can I please ask, something I don’t understand - Ramesh tell us to make a decision but not to expect a particular outcome as it’s all down to god’s grace/plan as to what will happen (ok that’s cool get that) But then he states that there is no chooser, no thinker, no doer - get that too great. But what gets me is, if there is no doer who makes the decision because you could call the entity making the decision the chooser or the doer?? Please help, am I missing something?

[@adityalalu3588]

let's clear it with example- a computer which is programmed if you give input based on the programming output derived (you will get output) computer never tells it had done ( I am the doer or I am chooser) like that the body, mind, organism is programmed if it witness something (which is an input) based on programming ( conditioning ) the respond will happen. it is ego which takes ownership of what had happened, when you realise the ego does not exit , then you will accept the fact that buddha said event happens, deeds happens, no individual does anything.

[@jyotej7082]

In another talk he is saying, you are free to do what you like, but result is not in your hand or as expected. So what is the use of this kind of free will, it seems like joke. Like child sitting in car, and pushing car to increase speed.

[@manarama1753]

Yes you must be missing something

[@shubhamshrivastav397]

Ask yourself, who put this question?

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[@nikhilgupta2575]

We don't hv control over our breath.

[@ANANDSINDHU10]

Something happenig Not someone does and something happened

[@christyxy702]

So the bad thoughts ☠️ I had since I was in elementary school is meant for me to ☠️ ?

[@tonydaniels6352]

If I had been in the room when Ramesh told the woman, "you are eternal", I would have asked him, who exactly is this YOU who is eternal? Why did no one ask this question? If there is no doer which means there is no me or you then how can an I, me or you proclaim to be eternal? This me that doesn't exist is objectifying eternity and identifying with it. How can this be? Ramesh cannot tell the woman who asked a question about reincarnation that there is no me to reincarnate if at the same time he says this me is eternal. You see the problem?

[@mahendrantn2397]

The sourse of creation is creation itself. The difference is, the source is eternal but creation is mortal. If you can touch the source, mortal being attains immortality. Since the source is eternal, there is no relevance of birth and death in its entirety. For example, our body is made up of the food we eat, which forms trillions of cells

[@michaelmcclure3383]

Well, in 96 Ramesh said to me "this is what Ramana calls the i-i (no me in between). I'd never heard this term before, but it's very clear. As Ramana says... Questioning ‘Who am I?’ within one’s mind, when one reaches the Heart, the individual ‘I’ sinks crestfallen, and at once reality manifests itself as ‘I-I’. Though it reveals itself thus, it is not the ego ‘I’ but the perfect being the Self Absolute. (Truth Revealed, v. 30, 1982 ed.) The Self is Absolute Existence, it's not the me that is different from the you, thinks it's an individual doer and so on.. it's one without a second.

[@tonydaniels6352]

@@mahendrantn2397 yes I understand that and I'm very familiar with Ramana Maharshi's teachings. What is eternal is clear and is also consistent with what Nisargadatta said. When I asked what is this you that is claiming to be eternal I was talking about the personal individual you. Nondualists are always talking about the individual I as illusory but of course Jiva equals Atman equals Brahman. The personal I is saying I am eternal as if the ego I is separate from that which is eternal which it is not. That's the paradox. You were very fortunate to have met Ramesh both personally and impersonally.

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Tony: There is no problem at all.

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[@ostrich9999]

Profound beyond measure and words. "Thy Will be done" .... NO! Thy Will HAS BEEN done. When the unmanifest unicty divided into the manifest object world, physicists now claim it wasn't a moment but a block. Or in other words, time began in a wobble. We are now seeing the movie that's already in the can as the passage to time, from present to future. BUT tis not really so: Thy Will HAS BEEN done.

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[@ANANDSINDHU10]

Observing + judgment + like/dislike or happy/sad = involvement ( 0 to 10 )

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Comment

[@strongwater7814]

So, do you mean that there will be no hellfire for the sinners or heaven for the good doers? Or that we would not be judged for our action in the afterlife? If you say that it is incorrect.

[@pvgopiabnle]

Dear sir.. If one is satisfied with the concept of Hell.. Heaven.. Final judgement etc. beyond any doubt.. Well and good. No issue. Ramesh is providing another concept to those not satisfied with Hell.. Heaven.. Rebirth..concepts. Still those who are not satisfied with the Concept of Ramesh.. Are moving away in search of other concepts which gives satisfying answers to their questions. We may follow what we feel right as Ramesh always says.Dont allow any conflicts in our belief system unless there are questions arising in our beliefs... Whatever whoever preaches. 🙏 But some tools which Ramesh provides may be tested (if interested)to verify the validity of his concepts.

[@strongwater7814]

@@pvgopiabnle Brother Gopi P.V, adab. What I meant is that in the Islamic construct of the universe Allah Rabbul Alamin created this world to test who is better in deeds. The person who does good deeds goes to heaven and the person who does evil deeds goes to hell. I quote: Aujubillahi Minashaitanir Rajim, bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim "That which is on earth we have made but as a glittering show for the earth, in order that We may test them - as to which of them are best in conduct." Sura Al Kahof, Verse 7, English translation from here: en.noblequran.org/quran/surah-al-kahf/ayat-7/#:~:text=We%20have%20made%20that%20which,ways%20of%20the%20Prophet%20SAW%5D. Do you say that that construct is only for the Muslims, or that Muslims were not told about alternative constructs?

[@pvgopiabnle]

@@strongwater7814Sir.. I respect your belief system. The same way i have my belief system.Religion related issues they are.Which one is the best or applicable to all human beings is a controversial issue. Let us leave it to the individual. Ramesh is addressing a group who is not satiafied with religious doctrines and having burning spiritual questions. Ramesh is trying to provide concepts which appeases their hunger. But that concepts are not at all accepted universally. Those who are not satisfied with Rameshs concepts are moving to other schools of thought. If one believe in a religious text completely beyond doubt and follow it .. Excellent (as long as no question or doubt arises about anything written).That does not mean that others are wrong. Others also are in the same boat with their religious texts and beliefs. Ramesh was running another school where students gathered searching answers for their burning questions. His answers are also not for all to believe and follow.Those who find his answers agreeable beyond doubt is following him. Thank you sir.

[@strongwater7814]

@@pvgopiabnle Adab. I am pleased to see that we are searching for the answers to the greatest questions of all - what happens to us in the end? I believe in my God's text - the Al-Quran - and have all the answers I currently have, and there are some I believe I will discover soon enough. However, I also believe as we were directed by the Quran Majid that all religions are from the God Almighty and they all originate from one single source - "Lawh al-Mahfuz" meaning the protected tablet. Aujubillahi Minashaitanir Rajim, bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim "Nay! That Qur’ân is Glorious. (It is) in Levhi Mahfuz" Sura Al-Buruj, Verses 21, 22, Translations and original Arabic text from here: en.noblequran.org/quran/surah-al-buruj/ May I ask you a question before I proceed further in learning about your belief? You stated "Ramesh is providing another concept to those not satisfied with Hell.. Heaven.. Rebirth..concepts." Is this "concept" of Mr. Ramesh come from a divine text such as Sri Geeta, or he invented it?

[@pvgopiabnle]

Thank you dear brother for the reply. I agree and respect completely your holybbook and belief system. For me my holy books and belief system is sufficient. There is no single one holy book acceptable and applicable to all human beings at the same time in this world. That is why it is called belief.. As long as one is fully satisfied with his holybooks and belief system. Well and good for him. There it ends. Now back to Ramesh. Ramesh is following the Advaita principle which is the avaible final school of thought in indian spirituality. There are numerous schools of thought in india which anybody can choose and follow ( if interested.. No compulsion). And this advaita concept is not at all linked with any religion in fact. But many will claim that it is related to hindu religion. Ramesh is presenting the Advaita principle with a beautiful intellectual overall covering for those who are not interested in religious dogma and precious unanswered spiritual questions burning inside them. In his published books and speeches,Ramesh used to quote from various religious texts to assert his view points and concepts. Personal Will.. Choice.. Rebirth.. God.. Etc are some ineresting concepts which he discuss seriously in the light of Advaita concept. To proove some concept he is suggesting some test analysis which one can do( if interested)in a daily basis to understand that his concept is valid. Hope i answered your Qs. 😄🙏

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