RAMMSTEIN Fishmans vs Classics!

[@SinjaEs]

you got it for free so this upgrade totally makes sense for you but i would not spend such an amount of money for a sign and some minor tweaks but thats just how commercial signature marketing works apparently. great video thank you again 🖤

[@BaritoneGoatStudio]

After a couple instances of having to modify a guitar for pickups, I invested in some small sharp chisels. Makes doing small route adjustments quick and easy and you can shave off fractions of a millimeter. You would never suspect that it didn’t come from the factory.

[@stegerguitars]

Nice....its a talent....

[@BigLenny.]

sounds great but the price is just a dealbreaker imo 😂🙈

[@smeemusic]

If I had a dollar for every time I had to forcefully make something work, I’d be able to afford to not have to forcefully make things work. Lololol good job taking control of the situation and getting results. I hope fishman takes note and maybe adjusts their pickup dimensions.

[@bizzski]

Those OwnHammer Low Tuned IRs are awesome. I got them because of your channel.

[@SonicDriveStudio]

I use them all the time

[@user-by6eb6zo7g]

Pickups aside, that guitar is gorgeous ! Esp's aesthetically never grab me, but something about the silver accents and that burst really do it.

[@catch33000]

You’re a legend for sanding pickups 😢 the guitar looks great with the fishman covers. Great content as usual keep it coming!

[@jean-philippemorin1176]

I think I prefer the classic open core ones, but that just me. I think they sound pretty close, the rz being a bit more modern. They sound great through your kit. The fact the rz do not fit in standard routing is a no go for me. I think you did the right move modifying/sanding the pickups. If you are to sell the guitar you will get more value than if you had sanded pickup cavities. You can always put back the original pickups in. I hope fishman have the pickups casing dimensions somewhere on their site, they should have them. It is always a good idea to double check this before buying. Like emgs it seems they have diffrent sizes available.

[@Turbo-D]

great to have them in a new guitar but as a replacement it will cost you a whooping 370€, heavy price increase over the standard just for his sign as it always happen with overpriced signature stuff.. i think i pass on this one, thanks man & peace ✌🎸

[@Venemoth666]

Huge low notes popup :) +cleaner upper tones very nice, open core sounds more like split coils

[@Stubz_Perez]

The RZ's have more clarity and definition with chugs. The open-cores were good and had a tone that is also really chunky like RZ's but as a main tone they're a little too muddy sounding. Just my opinion 💪 sick comparison video!

[@JeffStrickland]

Super helpful and informative video, as usual, thanks Jon! I like the look of the original pickups (without the bobbin covers), but wow the new ones sound fantastic, especially so on the clean tones.

[@BradBrunazzi]

I’ve taken a rotary tool to quite a few pickups in order to make the screw wings of the baseplate fit the guitar routing, as well as to shorten the pole screws sticking out of the bottom.

[@adamstrachn]

That finish actually looks better with the covered Fishmans. They have really nice string clarity. Killer demo and tones as well 💯 Be well brother 👍🏼

[@thomask9577]

Those sound great! I love my open cores, but I might have to experiment a little more, especially with the solderless quick connect stuff - it makes everything a breeze, minus the pickup routing 🤣

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Yeah, minus that hahaha

[@ChannelForty2]

Man those sound good, and as always too notch playing man! Good job sir!

[@Wyatth58]

I ran into this same problem when replacing the Open Core Classic in my LTD SN-1 with the Fluff Fishman. It didn’t fit the route in the pickguard, so now I have a nice Ryan Bruce Fishman shelf decoration.

[@deskducker]

You can mail to me

[@chadt5584]

Not really a fan of direct mount pickups. Can look nice, but I also don’t mind the look of rings and appreciate their simplicity and adjustability. With that said, as a solution, I’d probably go ahead and rout it out and use mounting rings.

[@RyRyTheBassGuy]

Yeah, rings would be the thing to do in this situation. Since you can only enlarge the neck cavity towards the bridge, it would look bad having bigger cutouts for the mounting tabs exposed.

[@deanopie4390]

I had the same problem fitting a fishman set into a 1986 Greco les Paul and had to shave down the mounts same as you. Nothing broke in my case luckily and it only took a few minutes with a file.

[@MaxPowersTastyTones]

Awesome video! I’m glad they fit now

[@cmd_f5]

That's crazy having to sand by hand, but glad it worked out! :D they sound massive for sure. Awesome cleans also. Thinking my next guitar will have Fishmans of some kind. cheers

[@ChrisPuckett]

I’m about to do this exact upgrade on my E2 Eclipse, but I think I’m going for the Open Core Moderns. The Open Core classics sound amazing. But I need something heavier for my style right now. The Open Core classics have amazing sustain and the notes just ring out forever. They might be the best pick ups I’ve ever played, but I do want something heavier.

[@kurokogenanoyo]

Nice tone! I love ESP (LTD,E-II...) guitars. 素晴らしい！

[@lozovoymax1941]

Has anybody done anything like that? All the time! 😁I've re-soldered 5 guitars. Most common problem - ponentiometers. They often don't fit holes. Had to do hole bigger on PRS S2 and Mayones. And stock potentiometer knob does not fit😁Also Mayones has frameless mount with M2.5 bolts and that does not work with major part of pickups. Stock EMGs have drilled holes to fit M2.5 bolts. You have to drill bigger pickup mount holes. And this is not what you want to do if you plan swap the pickups. But DIY solution comes to help here: just solder regular bolt nut to pickup mount ear. Works like a charm. First time see that pickup does not fit. I have resoldered PRS pickups to classic zebra open core on PRS and was able to swap modern as well. But, at the end, all that DIY stuff when things are not fitting together rewards you with some degree of freedom. Now pickup swap between EMGs and all sorts of Fishman - easy cake. Few weeks of swaps and listening and you got perfect matches. Well, gold Adler pickups and Jackson Skullyard looks weird😁 but that's best pair of pickups for that guitar for me. Fishman Classic zebras on brown PRS look stunning and sound good. White moderns on BC Rich warbeast also look stunning, and so far, best match for that guitar.

[@LonelyRocker]

What a combo!! Tones are great! And I think you stumbled onto something. Do a whole series on different pickups to see how they respond to your brilliant modification! A must see!! ;-)

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Haha!

[@aaaargl]

had the same fitting issues when changing from fluence merrows in the schecter KM6 to duncans. the duncan wes hauch humbucker was wayyyyy to big, so i decided to make it work with a Nazgul. i didnt want to modify the guitar body as well, so i grinded away on the nazgul, even losing the ground wire solder on it. but i managed to get everything into place, a bit to snug for my comfort, as resonance in the guitar really easily conducts into the pickups making the guitar prone to feedbacking haha. on the neck position i was lucky enough to get my hands on an OEM dimarzio john petrucci model, that have the same dimensions as the fluence open core, so no work was needed to be done there.

[@picksalot1]

Both sets sounded good, and I didn't have a consistent favorite. I use a Modeler, so my approach is dial in the sound I like and EQ as necessary. 🤷

[@JayBruceWorld]

Definitely prefer the open core classics

[@laurentreymond]

Guitar looks so much better with covered pickups. Besides the troubles with dimensions, you didn't had any trouble with the wiring, considering Krupse model is more based around the Modern Fluence ?

[@GearStuffandThings]

The difference was much more noticeable when comparing clean. At higher gain settings it was negligible IMO

[@dougb3854]

that amp is f'in amazing

[@NobotyBoi]

I've done the same thing trying to fit active mount Black Winter pickups into a cavity on a Harley Benton guitar. Talk about anxiety😂

[@LucasLeCompteMusic]

RZK's sound great!

[@mtlmark75]

I had to do that with the geezer butler set specifically the jazz pickup to install into my buddies Ibanez bass. Took the dremel and did the exact same thing. I hate direct mount pickups

[@mtlmark75]

Also I wish they would make triangle tabs on all these pickups. I’ve clipped the bulky square tabs on most of my pickups to fit them in the direction mount holes in my Ibanez guitars

[@Antjohns89]

Man that guitar looks awesome gotta do what you gotta do sometimes lol

[@stug5041]

Hate to break to to you but the will Adler neck pickup is literally the classic neck without the single coil voice 😂

[@SonicDriveStudio]

I know, it looks nicer though :)

[@stug5041]

@@SonicDriveStudio 100% with you on that my man! Great video as always

[@kettnsaeg]

I like the versatility of the Fishmans compared to standard humbuckers without different voicings/coil splitting. but, to be honest, somewhere in the back of my mind I hear Glen Fricker from SMG screaming "bumping the microphone, that is recording the cab, will affect the sound more than a pickup change" and I totally get what he's saying.

[@SonicDriveStudio]

I would suggest making up your own mind! To me pickups definitely are important!

[@kettnsaeg]

Oh I've bought and swapped stock pickups for fishman fluence moderns myself. They are nice pickups, indeed.@@SonicDriveStudio

[@VMinoda]

what?? how come something like pickup size or pickup routing dimensions is not standardized??

[@SonicDriveStudio]

It surprised me too

[@BlackSeries_]

Looking from the standpoint of mechanical engineering, the Guitar industry is stuck in the 50s - Which is no wonder regarding historical correct Guitars but when you look at modern Guitars it is a shame that even simple things like the pickup screws are not standardized and are chosen seemingly arbitrary... The switch to the metric system is absolutely overdue in my opinion.

[@lozovoymax1941]

Interesting how passive voicing on RZK compares to Adler set passive voicing. RZK seems to have pretty good passive voicing, not modern standard one. At the same time, it has Modern active voicing which I prefer on my amps over Modern passive voicings. Looks like RZK took best voices from Modern and Adler set.

[@roger767]

you have a guitar with pickup rings, it probably would have fit on there no problem, lol

[@SokolRock]

To be honest, I was surprised that you, with obviously a lot of experience with musical equipment, still didn’t know that on guitars without mounting rings, the dimensions of the cavities are usually precisely adjusted to the sizes of the installed humbuckers and you cannot easily change uncovered pickups to covered ones. :)

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Lesson learned! ;)

[@Walter_Hartwell_White_Sr]

I'm heavily biased. But if i try be less biased. God DAMN do the RZK's sound good. (plus bias points)

[@hyperbolekid]

Will the RZK pickups directly swap with an EMG pickup?

[@MrBallsOfficial]

Kinda wanna swap the open core fishmans on the vintage gold satin ec1000 ctm with the fishman Willy Adlers

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Will do that soon!

[@Mar33322]

F the pickups that amp sounds killer haha

[@absolutewarband]

I put classics in 2 of my EVH Wolfgangs. Has to sand the ear ends on the pickups to fit the guitar but did not damage the pickups and it only took me 30 minutes for all 4. Sorry to hear about your experience. I have Moderns and classic, prefer the classics. Check out my channel for my music videos featuring the classic!

[@SonicDriveStudio]

What are your thoughts on these pickups and the differences?

[@PaulGlover]

I tried them Vs the dimarzio fusion edge and it's an odd one. I do live these RZK though super tight. Dig this man and your channel. You ROCK!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYWYhaNteZmif6Msi=ONZo5rw2NYCQoGUr

[@kinglord5163]

Hello my man need some help: What metal pickups for 7 string should I definitely check out?

[@SonicDriveStudio]

So many good options out there

[@Chugg.Norris]

Not even close to being worth that money 💯

[@stegerguitars]

i might have done it all....

[@SonicDriveStudio]

I would definitely understand but I'm glad I did it :)

[@stegerguitars]

@@SonicDriveStudio what i meant was that since i build and repair guitars, i've done alot of improv like you did to make things work and be 'custom'....good job on yours! of course i've got lots and lots of tools to help out....