A film on the recovery of the Bloch-Bauer Klimt paintings by Maria Altmann in 2006. Electric Sky, Nigel Janes Director/Producer.
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@markwright70213 жыл бұрын
So pleased the Nazi's did not win out on this.
@n.hoerner75774 жыл бұрын
Ich bin wirklich glücklich und stolz auf Eure Hartnäckigkeit. Die österreichische Regierung und Ministerin Gehrer haben diese Niederlage verdient. Gestern erst lief ich in Wien auf der Mariahilferstraße Richtung Ring und passierte dabei die Elisabethstraße....seit ich die Geschichte der Familie Bloch-Bauer/Altmann verfolgt habe, hat diese Straße für mich nun eine Geschichte bekommen. Eine mit einem doch noch guten Ende. Toll gemacht, Randy. Liebe Grüße aus Österreich!
@llmorrisonsauer9 жыл бұрын
After enjoying The Woman in Gold yesterday, I was moved to look for more information on the subject and ran across your video today. Thank you for posting this. Thank you for your tenacity and hard work in representing Mrs. Altmann. The story is as inspiring from the point of view looking back from the victory as it is heart breaking and terrifying considered from the point of view of those who lived this history. Keep telling the story so that it may never be forgotten.
@Research0digo7 жыл бұрын
I want to know why that evil witch in Austria wasn't jailed, as she lied the paintings weren't bought from the Nazis.
@323v62 жыл бұрын
Very intriguing, especially as my gran was from those regions Bavaria, born 1930, classed as ‘German speaking Czechs’ I think In her latter years she took up painting as a hobby, she also learned she was a some distant relative of Klimt, however she couldn’t prove on paper, maybe due to nazis burning everything? Her father was a musical composer, but as his blood was not pure German, they were all burned, But she kept a lot of her life very quiet until she wrote her memoirs, even about being took by he elder sisters to Hitlter parade throughout the bordering towns, her word was viable to me when talking about history, she lived it and I believed her Wether she looked into this early in life or later with the aid of the net I’m not sure Klimt had I think 14 children, so I’m trying to establish where she found a link Glad the paintings went to the rightful owner, or it was resolved, wills are a touchy thing to deal with.
@scorpio-girl687 Жыл бұрын
I just saw "WOMAN IN GOLD" with Helen Mirren also ... and it too inspired me to learn more about this era. Very interesting and terribly tragic.
@indiesindie19848 ай бұрын
Indeed 👍 I've seen the movie numerous times, and I am so grateful for your tenacity and compassion in standing up for the legacy of your family and all who had their family heirlooms stolen and were murdered in the holocaust. We must never forget what happened or allow people to diminish this atrocity!
@jamesanonymous17168 жыл бұрын
Austria's "Minister of Culture & Education" deciding that stolen property is not "LOOT". The Belvedere, a state museum bought the paintings from a Nazi govt, official without documentation, with "NO Questions Asked". Corruption at all levels. What would you expect when "they" answer to no one. Hooray for you Randol !!!! and all of Adele's family. Case Closed
@Mansardian4 жыл бұрын
@Swissffun Nani one must admit: That's a strong point.
@mariaescosura397211 ай бұрын
I went to youtube to find more about the real Maria Altmann after watching the movie Woman in Gold last night. This video gave me the answers I was looking for. Thank you for posting it and for the great work in the Klimt case. It made me wonder if the Greek state could do the same to the UK state in regards to the Elgin marbles?
@soniatriana90914 жыл бұрын
Wow! Randy’s persistence, intelligence, finesse, and devotion to seek justice for his family & Maria’s family has to be one of the proudest moments of his life, both personally & professionally! This story is impressive in so many ways, especially because of the impact it has had & will continue to have into the future. I hope Maria Altmann’s heirs & the Bloch-Bauer heirs have made significant decisions that will benefit their families & issues well into the future, as an honor & tribute to Ferdinand & Adele Bloch-Bauer!
@mariekirouack11874 жыл бұрын
I saw the painting of Adele Bloch Bauer « live » it is even more stupendous than any film can convey...
@alffuergregor4 жыл бұрын
nothing compared to the KISS :D if you want to see the real stuff you have to come to vienna .. birthplace of art culture and music
@mariaejose44372 ай бұрын
You will never have the chance to compare in loco to the stupendous "Kiss". And probably you will never see "live" the marvelous portrait Adele Bloch Bauer II or the amazing Birch Forest. I was lucky enough to admire all of them in the Belvedere, in a visit to Austria, some years ago, but now is finished, since Maria Altman took them from the public eyes and sold them like potatoes to different private buyers who consider art a commodity, like a potato or barrel of oil. (The portrait of Adele Bloch Bauer II was bought by Oprah, who sold it later to some anonymous Chinese buyer and probably will never be seen again. The other 3 paintings of Klimt received by Altman from the Museum of Belvedere (including the Birch Forest) had a similar fate - she received 5 paintings and sold them all to private buyers. Only the painting Adele Bloch-Bauer I is at exhibition. No one can say for how long...
@kianmichaelakennedy16 күн бұрын
Nothing compares to the woman in gold....
@flixkat4 жыл бұрын
Those Austrian arbitrators saved the honor of a country that has no honor.
@sharit79704 жыл бұрын
Update: Maria died in 2011 at age 94. Shame that she had to spend many of her last years trying to get her property returned to her. I'm glad she and her tenacious lawyer won out in the end. Good job, Randy!
@gregorcollins4 жыл бұрын
She did her family proud :)
@alffuergregor4 жыл бұрын
she was a greedy old lady .. now she is dead.
@gregorcollins4 жыл бұрын
@@alffuergregor You are as amazing as always, my friend! My very best.
@mrrolight4 жыл бұрын
@@gregorcollins Well... I mean really what did she succeed in doing? She took the paintings out of public view at the Belvedere, against the express wishes of her aunt, Adele Bloch-Bauer, then she immediately sold them to private collectors. She paid her 'no-win, no-fee' opportunistic lawyer 40% ($109M) gave some to a Jewish charity as guilt relief, and pocketed an absolute fortune. Neither her aunt nor her uncle left those paintings to her or to any other extended family. But for an absurd, politically loaded judgement, those paintings simply were not hers to sell. If she actually cared about the paintings, she would have left them exactly where they were, exactly where her aunt had intended them to be. Or she would have kept them to look at herself. She didn't care about them at all. She cared about lining her pockets and when an opportunity presented itself, not of her instigation I might add but that of a lawyer with an eye for a killing, she jumped in with both feet, not least because the enterprise would cost her nothing as the lawyer was willing to work pro bono on the off-chance he might make... well... $109M. The world is an idiot for not seeing this fiasco for what it is. Adele and Ferdinand Bloch-Bauer will be turning in their graves knowing that their most beloved treasures have been stolen yet again, this time by a member of their own family. Quite, quite sick.
@DoYouWantTheJobOrNot4 жыл бұрын
@@mrrolight the painting is apart of a private collection but still viewable to the public and she took care of her family.
@nemanjabogunovic3 жыл бұрын
I watched Woman in Gold the other day and I just cannot stop thinking about it! My deepest admiration for everything you did!!!
@p1dru2art5 ай бұрын
I love this stuff wonderful story the movie was good also
@p1dru2art5 ай бұрын
So I'm watching art of the heist and the narrator mentions the Mona Lisa being important to France..... hello
@sunnyhill5119 Жыл бұрын
So glad Ms. Maria got that painting back. God bless.🙏👍😊
@bolton5449 жыл бұрын
Heart breaking story and such a beautiful painting. Maria was an amazing woman! Thank you for sharing.
@mikejones-go8vz4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad Gustav Klimt was well paid for his services, too many artists aren’t recognised until a controversy or death gives the artwork any value
@gregorcollins4 жыл бұрын
Good point
@JohnDeerePhilosopher3 жыл бұрын
In the case of controversy-driven art, if that was what made the art valuable why pay the artist?
@victoriayoung61653 жыл бұрын
Really, that is all you get from this documentary...SORRY BUT YOU MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT.
@fleurgi9 жыл бұрын
I just saw the movie about this yesterday with my mother. We both cried. It was truly a touching story. I am so glad that Maria and Randy won the case.
@gregorcollins4 жыл бұрын
The stuff movies are made of :)
@clay56772 жыл бұрын
Agree is disagree. They should be in the museum.
@chrisgordon6599 Жыл бұрын
This is a very instructive video which I will watch again. However, I felt the makers of the video pulled their punches somewhat as far as explaining the bizarre tactics of the Austrian government in a cogent and honest way. You see, the Nazis in Germany and Austria didn't just fade away in 1945. Many of them who escaped prosecution eventually to secure positions of power or influence either as politians or civil servants or in government-funded institutions, including cultural institutions. The animus shown towards Maria Altmann was, in essence, the same animus (hatred) she and her family was subjected to after Nazi Germany annexed Austria in March 1938. It is why the Austrian government refused to negotiate with one of the rightful owners of the Klimt paintings because they could not bear the thought that 'their' beloved Klimt paintings were truly and legally the property of a Jewish family! I have personal experience of this shabby, criminal behaviour which is psychopathic in its nature. Just remember: the paintings could have been returned as early as 1947 when the Bloch-Bauer family first made enquiries about the paintings illegally acquired for the Belevdere and instead of returning them the Austrian state lied, claiming the paintings had been donated by Adele Bloch-Bauer!
@benzminibusdoc Жыл бұрын
The reference of the Belvedere to the testament of Adele is ridiculous since their taking possession of the paintings was not though the legal heir but though a handler for the criminal Nazi leaders. That alone should have rendered any claim by the Belvedere null and void.
@robyntahapeehi41889 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing true story of heritage & determination all because the greed of the Nazis. You did a fantastic job in helping Maria find justice for her & the family especially her Aunt Adele & Uncle Ferdinand. God had His hand in this & the payout $270m...well done!
@SarahRyan20029 жыл бұрын
Oh my god what a great story, and how great the lovely nephew/lawyer was! He was an absolute hero! So delighted that Maria got her paintings back, she was right it was incredibly just. This was such an uplifting story, just goes to show that there is really good people out there.
@brunan96553 жыл бұрын
Adele’testimony says clearly the painting go to Belvedere
@martiakatz8442 Жыл бұрын
Adele made her will before the Nazi era. The painting was not her property but that of her beloved husband who was left penniless and all their people gassed and burned by the German's and their willing collaborators of whom Austria was one of a vast number of Jew hating murderers. Maria is class and Randall is genius, congratulations.
@campbellpaul3 жыл бұрын
If the Belvedere Gallery had only given her back the paintings they would most likely have reacquired them later in good conscience, but greed was behind their motives to keep them, and they ultimately lost out.
@HenJack-vl5cb4 жыл бұрын
A fascinating but extremely sad in its essence story. Thank you very much for uploading the video!
@donaldwright66179 жыл бұрын
I saw this documentary some months ago. Absolutely phenomenal--a wonderful David-and-Goliath story. Congratulations, Mr. Schoenberg, on winning such an important case!
@mrrolight4 жыл бұрын
Yes congratulations on lining your pockets with $109 million, 40% of the sale of the paintings as legal services commission to Ms Altmann who herself said: "I would not want any private person to buy these paintings, ... It is very meaningful to me that they are seen by anybody who wants to see them, because that would have been the wish of my aunt." And congratulations to the investor who bought the Adele Bloch-Bauer II portrait for $88 million and sold it for $150 to Chinese businessman for his own private collection. Shame about all the real art lovers who can no longer see any of these paintings, against the express wishes of Adele BB herself, who in her own will left them to the Belvedere.
@alffuergregor4 жыл бұрын
@@mrrolight agree nobody cares about the will of Adele BB they care more about politics and greed. They are after all .. americans :D
@kaycox55554 жыл бұрын
@@mrrolight You are too much. He damn near went bankrupt and deserved compensation and repayment. She deserved to have her paintings returned. Not much else was; her uncles' sugar companies, the villa that Heydrich took over, properties, houses, personal possessions - most - all gone, all stolen. Sorry, Austrians during WW2 and thereafter have a very poor history in regards to respecting their own citizens of Jewish ancestry - - or for following the law, and have long aided & abetted the Nazi regime.. As did the Swiss.... This is one tiny case of good winning over evil, and fine FAIR judges in Austria seeing it . Quite brave & noble on their parts to do the right thing.
@LindaTCornwall2 жыл бұрын
Have you watch the British Film Drama of this story? So moving, an incredible story. Really puts the whole story into context. and as a bonus, Helen Mirren also gives an Oscar worthy performance in the film...
@donaldwright66172 жыл бұрын
@@LindaTCornwall Yes; I have seen it. It was excellent.
@janinehenschel49883 жыл бұрын
178 MILLION dollars that could be SHARED 20 million split with 14 family members ha
@wildandbarefoot3 жыл бұрын
So they're in new York now. For such important pictures to a nation, it just shows the Austrians just didn't want to pay for them.
@koshershyster49077 жыл бұрын
THE LADY IN GOLD Germans did not make money sitting down and drinking beer all day They would take Art, Gold, Diamonds, from Jewish homes during the war. That is why Germans Nazi had money after the war. Kosher Shyster & Ass, Tel Aviv, Israel, 2017
@davidwoods74088 жыл бұрын
It seems a decided lack of shame is still present in certain aspects of Austrian society. My hat is off to Mr. Schoenberg for refusing to give up!
@75smurfette7 жыл бұрын
It's truly stunning that those interviewed in the end missed the entire point regarding the case and could only talk about how THEY felt about not seeing them in the gallery anymore. Just think how the Bloch-Bauers felt having their entire lives stolen from them just for being Jewish! So glad you got Mrs. Altmann justice!
@sasuke36906 жыл бұрын
75smurfette selfish Austrians haven’t changed a bit
@shivasirons61592 жыл бұрын
7:44 thats downright cubist ! Amazing and inspiring !
@TheHoodmailbox9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this film. I love that Maria Altmann and Randol Schoenberg had the courage to get these the paintings back. I'm very excited about seeing the Helen Mirren and Ryan Reynolds movie, Woman in Gold, which is based on this case.
@huanaleg88778 жыл бұрын
They are not pictures....they are PAINTINGS!!!
@big1dog239 жыл бұрын
The Belvedere still has a very nice Klimt collection, including "The Kiss." I spent a week in Vienna last Summer with my daughter and really enjoyed it. The B is still a fantstic museum and there are many others. I do hope the private buyers, or their heirs, at some point exhibit them all for public view.
@eviken19824 жыл бұрын
The Belvedere has an awful history. NAZI history.
@Mansardian4 жыл бұрын
@@eviken1982 Oh wow, didn't know the Nazis existed in 1714. Prince Eugene of Savoyen must have been SS-Obergruppenführer back then.
@katherandefy Жыл бұрын
Gosh would so love to go
@bugisami9 жыл бұрын
Many Italian art works were "simply seized" by the French under Napoleon. And how do you think that so much Egyptian art ended up in England? What about the priceless works that have disappeared from Iraq? Why aren't these thieved called to account? The Nazis, booga booga, did not invent art theft.
@jrocklover25719 жыл бұрын
bugisami The circumstances under which artwork is sold or transferred or looted is always taken into account, there was no question that these artworks belonged to that family who commissioned them, there is no question that the artworks were looted and found their way into the museum. The museum thought that because there was a request by the wife to her husband that they should be given the property, but they were wrong. (the husband owned the paintings he had commissoned them, and he surrvived his wife long enough to write a new will giving the property to his heirs.) In this case the legitimate owner could get the works back is because she lived long enough (and she had a good lawyer) in many cases of art theft you must be able to show the work was stolen, then discover who the legitimate owners are, and the legitimate owners must be able to go to a court that will recognize the right of return. No one is saying that Nazi's inventing looting, heck the Greeks invaded and looted Troy.
@healthandfitness90689 жыл бұрын
thank god these treasurers ended in uk : just think of what is happening in isis dominated eastern countries now
@MartiJ20119 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video, Randol. Made me look forward to seeing the movie. And.. you must really like having Ryan Reynolds playing you. Congrats on a win all around!
@mamarobyn6 жыл бұрын
MartiJ2011 the woman in Gold movie brought me into this documentary as well
@Koi8Panda9 жыл бұрын
There is a movie about this coming out soon I believe
@BaronM9 жыл бұрын
Lady in Gold starring Helen Mirren.
@LendallPitts7 жыл бұрын
I do not know how I missed this before. It is wonderful to see. Congratulations to you again.
@zeerust20006 жыл бұрын
Randy Schoenberg sure looks a lot like his famous relative, Arnold Schoenberg.
@NickNicometi9 жыл бұрын
Randy, You were the perfect man for this legal case. Any excessive aggression would have likely backfired and you'd likely lost that case. You did a great job, and a great service for a wonderful woman. I truly believe that God was at work
@renzo64906 жыл бұрын
Nick Nicometi ....Does god “work” only on behalf of the innocent, the just, the weak? Do you believe that god “works”only to right humanity’s evils? Is god like a parent who separates two fighting children, listens to their respective arguments and always sides with the deserving one? How convenient to have such a god around. But it is a narrow idea of god and one that is a fantasy of your needs. If there is a god that watches over and protects us, as your god seems to do, was it not the same god that watched over the injustice as it happened? And if the painting had not been returned to the family? Many more victims of the Nazis never saw justice. Where was god during their struggles ? Perhaps you might rethink your concept of god.
@jonnyblaze44864 жыл бұрын
@@renzo6490 Its mostly a figure of speech, I don't think the person was inviting all comers to a debate about the existence of God. The premise of your argument is flawed though, if God created existence and he is just. Than nothing that happens within his creation is unjust by him. Humans can be unjust to the nature of God. Not the other way around.
@jonnyblaze44864 жыл бұрын
@@renzo6490 You have a very convenient level of analysis when it comes to said God. fits right into the whole no nonsense logic driven atheistic thing. Your types never have a fundamental understanding of what you argue against. Attacking a straw man version of God is easy. I would suggest watching a few John Lennox debates.
@clmclachlan4 жыл бұрын
@@renzo6490 Everything will be all right in the end. If it's not all right it's not the end. Epics have many verses chapters and volumes. If this is not the end then we can hope for another chapter. But what that is, who can possibly imagine? It seems amazing to me that the Jewish family that lost everything to the Nazis should have their fortune restored in this manner. It's even more amazing that the world should have had the privilege of knowing Adele Bloch-Bauer and the genius of her portaitist for so long.
@ilcasuelyilca65202 жыл бұрын
O roubo ao longo da história dos bens alheios é abominável.
@jwynet9 жыл бұрын
Just saw the movie today. I suggest you take along a supply of tissues when you go. I am not a sentimentalist, but my tears were frequent. Helen Mirren, as usual , is supurb at Maria Altmann. The film deserves a great deal more attention than it has received.
@tennismax9853 жыл бұрын
Brilliant movie.
@Wyckerman9 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to watching this documentary. I've just finished watching the excellent 'Woman In Gold' movie, but the Blu-ray is a little short on extras.
@emiliayonekokumata47643 жыл бұрын
This story is impressive! If it were a film script it would be awarded the best of all times. After I read the book about it I found a catalogue from an art exhibition where Klimt's paintings are listed, still belonging to Belvedere's collection. Klimt was no doubt a genius! I'm happy that the justice found its way, at least in this case.
@krislomax13679 жыл бұрын
Arrogance of Austrian Government....this could of been so much more simply handled
@eviken19824 жыл бұрын
NAZI-Austria. Hitler was born in Austria. They were sure no victims of the NAZIS because they were NAZIS.
@livingdeadgirl9399 жыл бұрын
Randy, you are a true crusader of justice and I couldn't be more proud of your efforts. I'm sure Ms. Altmann felt the same.
@annnee68187 жыл бұрын
The Austrian government just behaved abominably. You really don't want to be on the wrong side of history on something like this.
@alffuergregor4 жыл бұрын
no the austrian government did what adele bb had asked for in her will.
@Naomi20259 жыл бұрын
Film Woman in Gold is out and is excellent. Don't believe any negative reviews. Some do not want to recall the treatment of Jews as Hitler took over in Europe. I saw the film last night and it's superbly acted and worth seeing for its historical as well as artistic excellence,
@Dan-sc9lq11 ай бұрын
I have just finished watching the movie a second time. I forgot how good the movie is.
@helenmurphy31434 жыл бұрын
love woman in gold
@gregorcollins4 жыл бұрын
And you are one-half of Helen Mirren :)
@chestermicek3 жыл бұрын
If you look at the woman in "The Kiss" in order to compare her to Adele Bloch-Bauer it should be obvious that the woman in "The Kiss" is Christian; while, the women in gold is not. Moreover, the man in "The Kiss" seems to be of the same race as the woman in Gold. I'd guess Semitic. The nose on each woman is vastly different. It's obvious.
@user-hx1uy5ff8b3 жыл бұрын
Schäme dich Österreich, schäme dich!
@volvol17 жыл бұрын
I loved the movie, I loved the painting itself (it is breath taking) and I loved the true story and its outcome (justice).
@bensev14 жыл бұрын
Beautiful story!!! Wonderful History!!!
@shamaliwije48724 жыл бұрын
The beauty of the paintings pale before the beauty of justice done.
@AnnaLVajda4 жыл бұрын
It's just that sense of entitlement makes them think they can steal and destroy whatever they want.
@Maakull9 жыл бұрын
Funny how our own personal tastes vary. Outside of the portraits, the Landscape is my fav and it went for the least! (It reminds of the East Coast of Canada). I'm not quite sold on the fact that the family did not want to keep them because they could not protect them... if they sold four of them, they could afford security??? BUT then who gets the painting in the next generation when it's value is so astronomical! Okay, just sorting out my own thoughts here! I get it now.
@lindawentink27253 жыл бұрын
So interesting. Thank you.
@ElianaGaristo7 ай бұрын
@Randol Schoenberg, thank you very much for sharing this important film. Stay safe. Regards from São Paulo, Brasil.
@JadenJahci6 ай бұрын
All four for under 300,000,000 thats insane. all four would go for over a billion today.(I have seen them in person... They are absolutely stunning works.
@uschi369 жыл бұрын
dear mr schoenberg, there is a major mistake in the film: the lakes (e.g. attersee) are near SALZBURG ... NOT near strasbourg !!!!
@ladybug79676 жыл бұрын
Great job, Mr Schoenberg! Great story.
@nishkiboo45068 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of my family... It makes me feel so strong...
@khalidalali3518 жыл бұрын
+Anishka Altmann you should be !
@jacobk28 жыл бұрын
+Anishka Altmann Are you a niece or granddaughter of Maria Altmann z"l ? It is an extraordinary true story. Then, Maria z"l and her brother-in-law in Liverpool were responsible for introducing and importing kashmir/cachmère sweaters to the U.S. market! I never knew that. You know this story/history, though your family's, is somewhat personal to me as well as my grandmother's family were part of the Viennese Jewish community too, at that time; the Reichmanns.
@expo17069 жыл бұрын
Minister Guerer did not want to talk to them because they were Jews. That's it. In a way she new what she was talking about. Well if the uncle said he was giving it to his nieces then they belonged to the family.
@floraposteschild41844 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: "Geier" means "vulture" in German.
@clutchcargo24196 жыл бұрын
Thank god the Austrians w/ nazi sentiments lost and the paintings went to the rightful owner.
@Fettnace8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I love the irony that the up next video is titled 'Whatever happened to Klimt's Golden Lady?' hehe
@skyrocketcoast2194 жыл бұрын
Wow: finally , a very smart persistent plan won the dsy.
@acousticsong-guitarco9644 жыл бұрын
Austria can only blame itself for not having been open to a real negotiation. They thought they'd win and refused a compromise when Maria offered it to them
@SandyRiverBlue2 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised it took so long. When the Belvedere paid the Nazis for the paintings, it was an admission of sorts, that they were not the rightful owners, regardless of Adelle's will. Add to that the fact that had they filed for inheritance arbitration at the time they would surely have lost the case.
@resinboi61973 жыл бұрын
Fair play nice to see justice and what a lovely lady she offered them the chance to keep them and they bullied her defiantly worth watchin
@323v62 жыл бұрын
Where can I find all info on gustav Klimt’s ancestry? Family etc ?
@KateriBurnett6 жыл бұрын
I just watched the movie on Netflix and then went to google to read more about this beautiful painting and to learn more about Maria and saw this documentary on google. Very informative.
@jeahmelocotones67344 жыл бұрын
Kateri’s Krafty Idea’s What is the title of the movie in Netlix? Thanks! 🙂
@KateriBurnett4 жыл бұрын
Jeah Melocotones might be Lady in Gold?
@alokpriyadarshi262110 ай бұрын
Good job randolf without you she can't have the peace which she wanted to feel before leaving earth ..
@smitajky9 жыл бұрын
There are a few oddities. Most countries have an absolute embargo on the export of antiquities. Even when privately owned. So I wonder why these were treated quite differently.
@RandolSchoenberg900499 жыл бұрын
***** Most countries don't try to exterminate their Jewish populations. If you were Jewish, would you have wanted to go back to Austria after WWII? Should those who survived have been forced to leave behind what remained of their collections?
@smitajky9 жыл бұрын
Of course I wouldn't have wanted to go back and yes they should have been forced to leave the art behind. I can own things in most countries of the world but I am not permitted to export them from those countries and bring them here. The US is also a strong believer in this concept. You could not import Egyptian artifacts or things taken from Venice for example. So whilst it may belong to them they would not normally be entitled to move it around the world. And that would also have been true if Hitler and the second world war had never happened.
@hinomura20019 жыл бұрын
***** that will change in the next 10 years
@edwinmiranda3999 жыл бұрын
Can't protect Nazi looted art.
@jrocklover25719 жыл бұрын
***** the difference here is that the art was commissoned by the family and it was relatively new at that time, these were not antiquities, it's like comparing apples and oranges.
@karina58649 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely astonished about this story!! OMG It´s incredible!! Sounds like fiction. Congratulations for winning this battle for justice seems so little! WOW What a battle!!! It´s epic! but yes, Congratulations of course!!! Having a attorney brother, I know what winning means. Amazing story. Like David vs Goliath :D
@johngreen35434 жыл бұрын
The magnitude of ancient art of Egypt, Greece and Rome has been looted and is widely dispersed over the world. It needs to be returned. This is possible but not probable.
@shahzadafridi9 жыл бұрын
watched the movie, burst into tears after knowing what maria's been through. wasn't expecting the win though, but yeah u did it congratulation for the win
@p1dru2art5 ай бұрын
I need to get a job as a narrator you don't have to be too smart to know Leonardo da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa and was from Italy
@SpaceLykoi5 жыл бұрын
The painting was, in this woman's aunt's will, left to the gallery in which it was hanged; just because this woman saw the painting as a child while visiting her aunt does not mean she has ownership rights to it, or that she deserves the $135M for which she immediately turned it around. I am especially upset about this because she sold a number of other Klimt pieces (that she greedily demanded be taken from the walls and given to her) into private collections. Just one more corner of the spiritual art world locked away for a few dollars' sake. Truly saddening that everyone overlooks this just because an old woman whines and makes the reputable gallery out to be a Goliath to her David. All she wanted was money. I doubt she so much as glanced at any of the paintings outside of maybe for publicity shoots before the auctions.
@mrrolight4 жыл бұрын
You are so right. Everybody misses this point.
@armwrestling_motivation79794 жыл бұрын
Another sour secret Nazi supporter!! Austria still owns many apologies and, more importantly, huge reparations for war crimes, and for FULLY and openly supporting Nazis. Her property was looted, her family was murdered, her people were hunted down and all you thought of writing was that: back to your cave, Nazi!
@OptimisticSatellite-zn1yn8 күн бұрын
Thank GOD For Ronald Lauder
@giuseppenero1103 жыл бұрын
Sold them off! In that case, she should have reciprocated the Austrian judges' sense of justice (as she correctly acknowledged), by giving them the first chance to negotiate a purchase.
@RandolSchoenberg900493 жыл бұрын
She did. They declined.
@ereder1476 Жыл бұрын
HOLD ON! let me get this straight A woman get gifted (by her husband) the opportunity to get a portrait of her she decided in her WILL to give it to a meuseum after she dies. (btw she dies young so no dementia here) Her husband decided to steal that and keep the painting for himself. (a gift si a gift, you paying for it doesn't give any right) Somehow everybody ignore that and only care about the fact that the nazi took the picture from it's wrongfull place and sold it to the museum. DECADES later, the niece (not even daughter) realise that the painting is starting to worth something She does everything to get the painting back and then sold it "because security reason" (Olympic mental gymnastic because she could leave it in vienne) Her own lawser was worried because if she dies she have no other relative to carry the lawsuit Then the Senior Curator at LACMA is lying through her teeth because she claim she raised her family in LA... And the painting was sold to private people and not exposed publicly anymore. With the sweet irony that the most expensive one is sold to guy who litteraly learn about it because it was publicly exposed. This is the best example and illustration of somethign being "legally stolen" and who should be Repatriate. THE WILL OF THE ORIGINAL OWNER IS BEING INSULTED!
@benzminibusdoc Жыл бұрын
Only you don't get anything straight. The testament explicitly states that her husband should be the custodian and only after his death the Belvedere should receive them. In violation of the will the Belvedere buys the paintings from a handler for the people who stole them. Gaslighting much
@Panglos8 жыл бұрын
Austria and Austrians will never recover the honor that is lost from this episode in their history. Forever will they be known as a people of low character and devoid of integrity. That will cost them far, far more than the value of these works. "The foundation of morality is to have done, once and for all, with lying." - Thomas Henry Huxley
@lgl57018 жыл бұрын
No they could have granted restitution when there was clear evidence to do so. They had a chance to make amends. They didn't.
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath5 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for Japan to be forced to pay reparations. Double standard on which lives are valued.
@evelynramos445 Жыл бұрын
Thank for Betsy Guggheim
@jackchorn9 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the riches of the Americas returned to the indigenous peoples they were stolen from.
@Karloffrules9 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Have always hoped Spielberg would make a movie of The Trail of Tears. RIP dear heartbroken ancestors.
@miloligons256 жыл бұрын
jackchorn now that would be a true sight of GOLD, I mean to behold.......
@rubberpicker4 жыл бұрын
Oh SHUT UP
@mikejones-go8vz4 жыл бұрын
Spain might be a bit worried
@violagentsch3 жыл бұрын
Looks like 6 graders painted these. 👎
@dbmgna39515 жыл бұрын
I heard your family name mentioned. Is their story somewhere I can read. It's lively that you are trying to heal scars of the Shoah by rescuing their belongings.
@CHAbramoro_family8 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for your work. inspiration for many.
@williamnordeste96535 жыл бұрын
Rome is always in the shadows
@mrcohen82809 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this remarkable story to our attention - I'd wanted to see the Helen Mirren film before watching your documentary - now even more so. I teach Religious Studies in Secondary school, this will be a great story about Justice.
@DeborahJJA289 жыл бұрын
Just had the pleasure of watching the movie last evening. I cried at the loss, the struggle, and the outcome. I wonder what we can do to support this effort of Mr. Schoenberg as citizens in the US? How can we make a difference to affect those still struggling for retribution? Everyone should see this movie, and remember...
@chris-80927 жыл бұрын
Amazing, incredible, Maria deserved to have her families or relatives painting returned to her. Art dealers should learn not to deal with art on an illegal or criminal basis free from stealing
@ereder1476 Жыл бұрын
You mean retreive a painting that was rightfully theirs right ? Meanwhile Maria only cared when the painting took value and decided to desecrate her aunt's wish for financial gain ?
@bigbulk6885 жыл бұрын
For once in the fight between the left and the right, the left won. This was a long fight for restitution by Block-Baur family. Took 60 years in making. The sincerity of the litigator was admirable and refreshing. Also his father was a judge, so I am presuming he had access to great and quality advise. Also, the value of Klimts increased for 2 reasons, 1 mentioned in the documentary, they survived, and the other was the public display of Klimt's collection in Belvedere. Also the reason why Altman's won. Had the paintings been kept in the storage somewhere, nothing of the sorts had happened. Ironic for Austria.
@johnkidd12262 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you see it as a left-right thing, with no evidence of such. Most of us want the law applied equally for a just outcome. We know from recent experience, the left is only interested in winning, not justice.
@priscillageluk46114 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@ivorytower999 жыл бұрын
That was really good! I'm a big fan of Fake or Fortune? and now of this program. If anyone can suggest any other art related shows (that are up on KZbin), it would be greatly appreciated!
@nicopc657 жыл бұрын
ivorytower99 l'heritier it's in French ,documentary about looted art and restitution
@Maakull9 жыл бұрын
Hey Randy! I am not a lawyer, nor have any concept of the mazework you must of faced. My question is: Even though Adele left her paintings to the Belvedere, would there have been a martial law that allowed Ferdinand to be the sole heir of his wife's belongings, regardless of her wishes stated in the will? If so, then if the Austrian gov't was pushing her will as their claim to keep them, then they would have to acknowledge the law honouring that all her belongings first go to her husband and then his wishes had to be honoured. Were they ignoring that? Hope that made sense! Thanks! M.
@RandolSchoenberg900499 жыл бұрын
Adele only asked in her will that her husband Ferdinand leave the paintings to the museum in his will. He didn't do that, because when he wrote his last will, he was in exile in Switzerland and all his property had been confiscated by the Nazis. In fact, when Adele died in 1925, her executor, Ferdinand's brother (and Maria's father) Gustav said that the paintings belonged to Ferdinand and that Adele's wishes were not binding, although he also said Ferdinand intended at that time to fulfill her wishes. Obviously, circumstances changed in 1938 when Ferdinand fled for his life and his property was taken away.
@belabela32869 жыл бұрын
***** Hi, I am a lawyer ( not in the USA ) and I was delighted to see how you worked out your tactics and strategy to win the case. I am in the middle of watching the two parts of the deposition of Ms. Altmann and I have understood what a precise preparation was of yours to be able to present all specific details. Working under a different jurisdiction, I am amazed how flexible a court can be. I am dreaming of such judges you could have faced. Your basic argument is and was that the last will of Adele Bloch-Bauer was a simple wish and I have to accept it. As did the arbitration panel. ( Sorry for my broken English.)
@Maakull9 жыл бұрын
I like how Bela said at the end that Adele's was a wish, not law binding... seems to make it clearer to the novice such as myself. As well, very true how much you must be admired and respected for navigating the legal system and the law on different levels. I just saw the actual movie a couple of weeks ago and must say it held quite the emotional wallop... especially when Adele said good-bye to her parents. History is made of up our experiences of the times we live in, and am thankful that Adele's has been made known and saved for generations to come!
@ronhatch9473 Жыл бұрын
He got her face right. The rest and the houses are crap.
@evelynramos445 Жыл бұрын
Much like Sargent in elitism
@big1dog239 жыл бұрын
Well done. More informative than the movie.
@kruegerman11119 жыл бұрын
Thanks allot! for sharing this. The movie is great. I love Helen Miren
@OptimisticSatellite-zn1yn8 күн бұрын
Wonderful Video ! ❤
@quickchris10comcast4 жыл бұрын
Ms. Webber of the Looted Art Commission says the Nazis chose which countries to invade based on the art which it owned? I am sure the Nazis did scout out the art and make plans for confiscations of it, but the invaded countries like Austria and Czechoslovakia because they COULD. They wanted to conquer the world, and the world turned a blind eye to the annexation of the Sudentenland (the Anschluss,) because the world considered, ``well, those countries once were all under the same empire anyway, they're mostly German anyway, we'll draw the line there.'' After ``annexing'' Austria and Czechoslovakia, the next step of invading Poland was when Britain finally declared war.
@RLapin20129 жыл бұрын
Finally a sad story with a happy end on real life.