Random Orbit Sander Buying Advice

[@Wwgoa]

Thank you for the nice comment. We are glad you are enjoying our videos! Happy woodworking!

[@PhilipCook-zq9xs]

Working with various woods also will determine what speed you need your sander to deliver the finish you are wanting.

[@johnpaulgeorgenringo]

LOL 2:52 "line in the sand"... good one. Also, I had never realized the range of features. That Bosch sander is truly a badass piece of equipment.

[@rachelvesper2707]

That was such a good tutorial. I feel well-qualified to go out and make my purchase now. I had no idea what I was doing before this. Thanks.

[@raphaelklaussen1951]

Mind sharing which brand and model you bought and what your impression is? Thanks.

[@geedubb2005]

one important note when buying a sander is to research the availability and price of replacement hook and loop pads. Replacing them is inevitable. Sometimes the home and garden stores do not have them in stock. Check on ebay and always try to keep a spare pad or two. Nails, screws, splinters and outright wear will prevent the paper from sticking to the pad. Don't get caught shorthanded.

[@kevbokanoski9271]

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[@chrisgraham2904]

Great point! The little plastic hooks on the sander's rotary pad will melt and deform so that the fuzzy loops on the pads will no longer stick. This heat build up is usually caused by people who press down a little too hard when sanding. Keep a light touch and let the weight of the sander do the work to let air circulate under the pad. Using the vacuum attachment for dust collection also helps to keep the pad cooler.

[@rpaldridge1]

My Dewalt 5 is loud too, but I Iove the thing...Very easy on my old hands...very predictable. Must say I'm intrigued by the Bosch, however. Great video.

[@chevy5137]

I work in the automotive paint industry but have always wanted to get into woodworking I have just never had an area for the tools well now I have a large garage and have got 2 miter saws a good beginners table saw and router with router table and I already had a ton of cordless power tools like saws, drills, impacts, sanders, etc. as well as plenty of air tools which are mostly more for mechanical work though. I know an important thing to look at on a air random orbital sander you intend to use to sand vehicles with is the orbit diameter like a 1/32" will give a finer finish where a 1/8" will remove material faster. I assume this is something to look at in corded or cordless random orbit sander intended for use on wood as well isn't it? I run the Ridgid 18-volt cordless tool line and I love my random orbital air sander a lot but now that my compressor is in my garage I have gotten really tired of listening to it run while I sand, so I saw that Ridgid offers a new Gen5x 18-volt cordless 5" random orbit sander so I picked one up and I really like it of course there are definitely things I miss about my air sander but the Ridgid sander is still great but I have noticed that Ridgid makes no mention of it's orbit diameter which I would think is an important detail, yet I have actually seen a 6" Ridgid random orbital sander that has a switch on the side of it to change it from a larger 1/4" orbit for faster material removal to a 1/8" for finer finish work, that struck me as really cool cuz I have never seen an air sander like that before or even another electric one and it's nothing complicated to make the change just a simple toggle switch on the side of the sander that really struck me as nifty! But having a sander where they tout the orbit diameters I would think they would at least list the orbit diameters on their other sanders. Another thing is there any difference between a random "orbital" sander and a random "orbit" sander, I assume not but have been a little confused on that I have seen sanders where they are titled as a random orbital sander but then in the features they list random orbit as a feature. Also just one other thing to just note is the difference in the aggressiveness of wood sanders and the grit of sandpaper used seems to be fairly different and that took a little learning about and getting used to.

[@reginam.9905]

Hello. I just purchased Bosch ROS10 to sand off what is left of last yr's stain on my 16x36 deck. Should've sanded my 10yr+ weathered deck prior to applying a semi-transp Olympia stain. (I am guessing the prior owner did very little up-keep.) I put the "RED universal brand" 60-grit disc & hooked up to my shop vac...it took about 1-1/2 hours to sand 7'x7 ' area b/c they disc kept flying off! (I returned them.) I ordered the Bosch 25pk 60-grit discs and hope this speeds up the sanding job!

[@Dog.soldier1950]

Regina M. You needed a belt sander

[@shreyasonthineni1990]

Wow! That was one of the best tutes (tutorials) that I have seen on KZbin. It was very well done! Thank you for the information as I will be requiring a sander pretty soon, for both interior work (Corian countertop) as well as exterior work (my daughter's play station and playhouse).

[@elizabethmclaughlin2216]

Thank you for the your demo of a ROS. It helped me make a more informed purchase decision!

[@rkgki]

Great video! Thanks.

[@nmknmk2371]

So easy-to-use

[@danalaniz7314]

Very helpful and very thorough. Thank you.

[@Wwgoa]

You're very welcome!

[@lukeyd13]

Fantastic video all the relevant info I needed

[@sheepborg]

I watched this video. Then I realized in a moment of clarity... I dont even work with wood, or have any desire to buy a random orbit sander. What is my life?

[@sheepborg]

+sheepborg Two year update... I now work with wood, though I still lack desire to buy a random orbit sander. Guess I'll check back in another 2 years...

[@seedymixskinner2257]

+sheepborg looking forward to the next update.

[@TSunshineful]

sheepborg lol

[@mrpimpsoda1]

Wow. I can follow this thread my whole life just to see how this saga ends

[@beachbum200009]

Only 1 more yr for an update!!!!!!

[@Wwgoa]

Thanks! Happy Woodworking!

[@YehNahYehAyy]

Just getting in to woodworking and this was a great help, thank you.

[@brinkman4925]

very nice. all questions answered

[@Wwgoa]

We are glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your feedback! And anytime you need any woodworking advice, check out video dot wwgoa dot com.

[@paulgorman8097]

Excellent video, answered all my questions.

[@Dog.soldier1950]

I bought a Milwaukie battery powered OS. Very handy

[@cabbyhubby]

A 5" tool is the industry standard, also hook and loop paper is incredibly expensive, the psa paper is 1/5 the price of the velcro

[@aprilrain9051]

Good info. 👍

[@ed0985587]

Yes this was a great video. Very intuitive. Thank you!!

[@zoe9632]

Thankyou from Australia 😃

[@Treardet]

thanks! great info

[@ozstriker4075]

have electric sanders made air/pneumatic sanders obsolete?

[@kanadah09]

Thanks for this video. It was very helpful. I would like to sand my veneer-covered dining table. I’m a beginner and never sanded before. Could you advise me on what speeds and what grit sandpapers to use? I’m afraid to ruin my dining table.

[@Wwgoa]

Sanding a veneer table is a risky proposition due to the risk of sanding through the veneer. You don't know how thick the veneer is, and the only way to find out is to sand all the way through it. I'm also assuming that you are sanding to remove old finish. If that is the case, I'd suggest that you seek the advice of a refinishing expert before proceeding. Paul

[@mpcoleman]

Thanks for this video. Question for anyone: I have a 5" Dewalt that is crazy loud (sounds like a baseball card in a bike tire going at 1000rpm), and only goes very fast (not speed adjustable). Any way to reduce these negative qualities? or do I just need a new sander?

[@jesusgutz8001]

which sander use for amateurs ?

[@jsc3417]

how are you going to sand tight corners with ROS? Can you use some type of triangle sanding disks?

[@Wwgoa]

+jsc Random orbital sanders cannot sand into corners. Detail sanders are great for this as they have a triangular sanding pad. I normally just sand into corners by hand which works fine as well if you are only doing it Occasionally

[@ragtop63]

Holy interlacing artifacts Batman!

[@sathyaarun6235]

Great Video...helped me to choose what i need...

[@scottyd980]

Buy the Blue one.

[@Fili2009able]

Thanks, very good information,I wish you can tell how much is this ROS (will be easier to keep checking brands,quality and prices)

[@deepimpact4299]

I just bought my first random orbital sander not sure of its working properly or not. When I turn it on in the air the pad spins fine, but if I apply as little pressure my finger, the pad doesn't spin instead vibrates. It that how its supposed to be or should I get it replaced ?

[@citticat2]

The filter doesn't stay on otherwise the sander works well.

[@OurCabinVideos]

Great video! I have the ROS65VC-6 and have a problem with the sanding pad flying off after I changed the pad. The screw is very tight but comes out with the metal sleeve attached that just seems to slide into the base of the sander. Seems like a very poor design to me as there's no threaded connection to the motor spindle only a compression sleeve holding the pad in place. Any thoughts?

[@dontgetmadgetwise4271]

I'm certain that "random" does not mean random in the statistical sense. So what does it really do?

[@Mr2at]

Good solid advice.

[@HowardSantiago-qn4kv]

Its $159 right now on homedepot online only

[@cookiemonster7727]

i have an important question. My daughters crib is chipping paint, would sanding it fix my problem? if so what sander should i use? Thank you :-)

[@diejitsu86]

Random orbit sander

[@genhowdy]

Buy a new crib!

[@MuhammadKhan-ii9ir]

can this be used for car as a polisher?

[@bobtuck575]

Solid advice George....I have a question off topic though. I can see, in the background, an old hand powered pillar drill (cast iron wheel with decorative spokes) what is that? I have one exactly the same...nifty little piece of old engineering. Would love some more information if possible.

[@kidsuse22]

Sorry for the really slow response. It's a post drill I picked up at a farm auction. More info here www.wwgoa.com/video/006302_ye-old-post-drill/

[@gordonbowe]

I had a Ridgid 2601 for about a year before it got stolen. I am now in the market for a new ROS. I liked the Ridgid, and it worked pretty quickly, but my main complaint was the backing pad brake, which needed to be changed about every 3-4 sanding sheets, and required you to disassemble the unit completely to change. additionally, Ridgid used Torx screws inside of a deep recess, and a standard 1/4" Torx adapter wouldn't fit, requiring me to buy an Allen-style Torx set. based on these "ergonomics" disasters, I am hesitant to buy another Ridgid. Can you recommend a unit that is easier to maintain? thanks

[@Ethan-sp9qr]

Gordon Bowe Get a Dewalt ROS use one all the time never have any problems

[@CThienV]

For refinishing an outdoor Deck, RO Sander or Belt Sander?

[@Assimilator702]

CThienV Belt sander.

[@a.s.6365]

What about the wattage? Are powerful sanders better?

[@Wwgoa]

Great question! I have submitted your question to our experts. Please check back here in 1-2 days for their response. Thank you!

[@Wwgoa]

Thank you for your patience. Here is our expert's response: Amp rating can be one indication of power. A powerful sander will remove stock more quickly, so they are better in that respect, but there are other measures to consider as well such as vibration, quality, and dust collection. If you have any other questions, please chat, email, or call Customer Service.  Sincerely, Sarah Wood Workers Guild of America Video Membership

[@matthewsutton3682]

Any issues getting this handle mounted on this particular sander? I just unboxed mine and the handle was not mounted to the tool but came with a provided allen wrench. The allen wrench goes into an access hole in the handle which is obviously intended to thread a bolt into the body of tool. Unfortunately the bolt only protrudes about 3/16" which isn't long enough to get past the 1/4" or so of plastic housing to engage the threads on the body of the tool. It's almost like a bolt which is 1/4" short was mistakenly tossed in the handle in the factory unless I'm missing something obvious.

[@Wwgoa]

Sorry, I don't have any suggestions on how to remedy this. I'd suggest contacting Bosch at [phone]. Paul

[@mikegeary4002]

I am sold! So, where can I buy the Bosch ROS65DC-5? I see them with similar, but not the exact model number. I want THAT model. We have asthma and sinus issues here, so the vacuum/dust collection is imperative. I called the Bosch company, but the woman, with whom I spoke, does not seem to be familiar with the Bosch product line. Turns out--SHE IS NOT IN THE USA and has no knowledge of tools. OUTSOURCED CUSTOMER SERVICE! Any advice about RIDGID? I think they are still produced in the USA.. Thanks for your help!

[@Wwgoa]

Hello, it looks like Rockler carries this: www.rockler.com/bosch-5-random-orbit-sander I like Ridgid tools in general but I don't have experience with their sander. I'm not sure where they manufacture, but given their modest price points I would be surprised if their woodworking power tools were manufactured in the US. -Paul

[@mikegeary4002]

Thanks. But the link is for Bosch's ROS65VC-5 and the one that you are using in the video--according to the Bosch advert that posts right on the video is RIS65DC-5. "D" not "V." Is the official Bosch advert a mistake?

[@mikegeary4002]

I tried to post a shot of the advert that comes up at 7.01, but can't. Is that ad wrong? Thanks.

[@Carl-LaFong1618]

Never talk to a broad about tools.

[@HikageMaru]

For the life of me, I could not find the ROS65BC-5, but I have found the Bosch ROS65VC-5. Is that the same sander?

[@jerrythompson8802]

I have a Random Orbit sander I have had for a long time now. Now it will not hold the sand paper what can I do?

[@kidsuse22]

Whether it's hook and loop or PSA (pressure senstive adhesive) you can get a new disc for the sander from the manufacturer.

[@arbit3r]

Its called a backing pad.

[@pj-1888]

hi there i need to sand old wals in my house they are in a bad state i will plaster them early next year ..but for now i need a sander that will sand a few walls in my hose quite a few walls actually .was lookin at the silverline sander-polisher? or bosch orbital somthin that will actually work well an not blow up under load? dont want to pay 150 ppounds for the proper dry wall sander any ideas my friend? thank in advance

[@Wwgoa]

Hi, Peter. Hello and thanks for your question. Our focus is on woodworking rather than remodeling, so we are not able to advise you in this area.

[@petermarecheau2544]

Okay thanks for replying

[@beartenon888]

Check out the full range of Mirka sanders. I'm also incredibly happy with using one of the vacuums that are tool activated. Nowadays I can't find sanding dust around my work pieces. You should be able to sand drywall and have virtually no sanding dust. Amazing, really!

[@ernestoalonsoYT]

Hi, there, I’m writing from Barcelona, Spain. You mentioned a proper dry wall sander, that’s what you actually need, although the price will be higher than a cheap sander, of course. The thing is, at least in Spain, and probably in Europe in general, that manufacturers warn explicitly about voiding the warranty if a woodworking sander is used on drywall, because the dust obtained from drywall sanding is very aggressive to the machine’s engine. The engine in dedicated drywall sanders is especially protected to avoid this damage. Knowing this, some DIYs buy very cheap sanders and use them until they give up. ;-)

[@Peppermint1]

My sander slows down when I put any pressure on it, is that normal?

[@vladgorshkov3325]

Good advice, appreciate it.

[@RonaldDupra]

Thanks for the great informative video, it answered all my questions. Subscribing now

[@craighellberg6269]

Do you recommend hook and loop fastener for the same paper or adhesive back? Thank you for your time

[@Wwgoa]

Hello. I use and recommend hook and loop (Velcro) backed sandpaper for a ROS, as it is more convenient. Thanks Paul-Woodworkers Guild of America

[@craighellberg6269]

WoodWorkers Guild Of America Thank you so much for the quick response and advice. I look forward to watching more of your videos. I just took down a 90 foot gray pine tree and have a lot of wood to just play around with. Once it dries I’m going to try my hand at stupid little things like coasters a basic and table and such. I know it’s not the best word but at least it was free

[@colemyst]

My 5 inch Rigid sander R2601 worked great last year but the pad or plate won't stay screwed in and fell off while I was using it. The disks weren't staying hooked so I took the pad off to clean it. Now the pad won't stay screwed. The screws will continue to turn as if they are stripped but they aren't. Can you tell me what's what? I'm very precise about handling my tools and can't find anything that I did to cause this.

[@Wwgoa]

If they are not stripped I don't know what the problem might be. I'd suggest contacting customer support at Ridgid for some troubleshooting.

[@colemyst]

Thanks I guess I'll try that

[@fyanezc]

Great Info!

[@Harleyrk99]

The problem I have with my ROS is when turned on it works great until I place it onto the work surface, any pressure at all it actually stops the sander from spinning. Any ideas?

[@Wwgoa]

Hello. Sounds like something is broken inside, and it either needs to be repaired or replaced. My preference is generally to replace a sander rather than repair it because the cost might be about the same, but if it is relatively new and/or an expensive unit you might want to take it to a repair center to see what it might cost to repair. Thanks Paul-Woodworkers Guild of America

[@wadecollier4757]

Very informative.

[@TheHandystanley]

Bosch, Triton or Festool?

[@beartenon888]

I chose Mirka DROS. I tried a Festool and found it too heavy. I also like the similarity of the DROS to the air-powered RO sanders I used when I worked in a shop making tables. Also check out the different types of sandpaper. I've used them all and I've really fell in love with the Abranet that Mirka makes. I've used Mirka sandpaper for more than 20 years and it has been consistently excellent.

[@Archzed]

can we do wet sanding with an electric sander ? would water damage the machine ?

[@zuilok]

I know its an old comment but just in case someone is wondering. Absolutely not! Dry only.

[@flameredshaw3550]

Thanks

[@FirstReviewer]

Nice Job !!!!!!!!

[@mikerichardson8127]

Thought this was buying advice for sanders...not a Bosch commercial.

[@jointheresistence123]

This sander is like $200 bucks. come on now, just buy the dewalt

[@JohnDavis-yz9nq]

They ain’t nobody gonna let you try them out. They come in a box and you takin home and try it. What a silly piece of advice. He should have said buy from a store that has a good return policy.

[@marcosgg90]

Action action Just fu....Ing talk

[@ozstriker4075]

have electric sanders made air/pneumatic sanders obsolete?