Is The Topdon Phoenix Plus Worth It?

[@alexanderstewart5162]

I'm glad this video actually explains how it works compared to the majority of videos I watched

[@marafeecommerce8824]

This man's recommendation is very sincere. Thank you. I tested this device. It has 3 cons: 1- screen responsiveness not excellent ( 4 points of 10 ). 2- Battery life ( 6 of 10 ). 3- Can Fd not available in this scanner.. ( not sure ) ..

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thank you for the great feedback. Candfd can be found on the elite model shown here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZLFl52weN9opq8

[@MrLaloman18]

After buying this kick ass Phoenix Plus scanner I suggest getting the bad ass Teslong Articulating Borescope TD500 nothing like it and professional quality and very very useful features, easy to use and perfect for any job which compliments with the Phoenix Plus scan tool!!!

[@RANDOMFIX]

Enjoy that Phenoix plus! Are you using it for shop or just home use?

[@MrLaloman18]

@@RANDOMFIX Home use, just finished coding my new rear EDC shocks and my left driver side headlight TMS control module with ease. It was fast and powerful. No need to be connected to WiFi to be coding unless you need special online coding for major modules/etc... Was able to re-establish some module code errors and got fixed with the Phoenix Plus. My BMW is now error free and was driving it for an hour to make sure everything was good and it didn't disappoint! Worth the $775 total I paid for it 😁

[@noahadim]

Just got mine today! They're down to 799 right now, best deal on a scanner today

[@anguslean4058]

I got the topdon artidiag 800 BT It’s a great kit with free lifetime updates

[@RANDOMFIX]

Yeah the 800bt is good unit.

[@RANDOMFIX]

I just found out that the updates cost $540 per year for this unit, ouch 🤕. The phoenix plus is not really for home use knowing that!!!

[@anguslean4058]

@@RANDOMFIX no That’s why I went with the 800 BT Has 28 special functions But it’s not bi directional But it does have free lifetime updates So it cost me 375 Free lifetime updates It has 16 gigs but once you update it you have about 500 megs of memory left I deleted the cars ( mostly Chinese ) that I will never use and freed up 7 gigs Nice thing is you never lose them so if I did ever need them in the future you just download them It reads all the modules So for about a third of the price and no yearly subscriptions it’s a nice kit You can do a lot with this It’s a great mid level scanner Comparable ones with this have a subscription so I went with this Used it on 4 cars so far and no problems It’s also pretty quick and comes with a web browser camera and video recorder And also you can read live data. I think for a home owner DIY type person this is the one to get.

[@RANDOMFIX]

I hear and own this 800 bt and have a review on the 800bt as well kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHnHYYyLfteojZI

[@anguslean4058]

@@RANDOMFIX I saw that one Good video 👍 I watched a bunch of videos before I bought this one Like I said most have a subscription This one for me was the best There is so much you can do with it.

[@davidl766]

Can you look at live data while commanding functions? such as egr, evap. I borrowed a friends X tool D8 and at first I was very impressed but then I tried it on my 2003 Chevy impala and tried to do an evap purge seal test and you see nothing! No data at all completely useless, in that respect. That’s my opinion. you have to be able to see live data to see how the car behaves when commanding functions.

[@RANDOMFIX]

Sorry for the late reply! did you find a solution?

[@jasonelliot9633]

All I want to know is does it have full bi directional controls and cam and crank signals I don't know why no one talks about this it's very important

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thank you for your feedback, much apprecated!

[@milliondollar2981]

Anybody know if this will work with a 7.3 Excursion? buzz test?

[@RANDOMFIX]

It works with your excursion but I am not sure what the buzz test.

[@milliondollar2981]

@@RANDOMFIX thank you I think i have a few dead Cylinders

[@RANDOMFIX]

Do you have a misfire code? Most basic scan tools can perform this test.

[@milliondollar2981]

@@RANDOMFIX i think i am running on about 6 cylinder, n real hard to start

[@milliondollar2981]

@@RANDOMFIX i don't have a scanner yet, was thinking this looks good, but I was not able to see if it works on diesels

[@Aesthetics622]

Does this have relearn modes for sensors? Fuel injectors etc??

[@RANDOMFIX]

Good question, one some vehicles you have to program the fuel injector serial numbers like bmw but you don’t need to relearn anything else. If you do a reset it might help save fuel sooner for base value. The reset will different Depending on the vehicle.

[@kenken-sr2vq]

Can it disable the Annoying Famous Start/Stop on GM cars and the Garbage DOD / AFM that destroys the lifters on the suburbans .?? They told me it does..

[@RANDOMFIX]

Great question, I would email the vendor and give them you vin and as for a list of supported features.

[@KJ1985]

Great Review! Are the Coding and Bi Directional still works after 2 years without any paying?

[@RANDOMFIX]

After 2 years those will be locked from my understanding unless your review.

[@KJ1985]

@@RANDOMFIX The diagnostic features and Bi Directional Testing will still be available, but the coding, won't be. Thats the answer i get from TopDon

[@RANDOMFIX]

Wow, that’s pretty cool, thank you for the update. Much appreciated

[@xXBaneXx1]

Does the pheonix plus not display battery voltage? I noticed the x431 equivalent does and so does the elite.

[@RANDOMFIX]

Good catch on the battery voltage, I didn’t catch that.

[@katzenpapa]

Does this uint have Power balance speical function?

[@RANDOMFIX]

I would even the vendor and send them your vin and ask for a list of support functions.

[@dayntubee]

what is the advantage of the elite over the plus... why is the elite better ?

[@RANDOMFIX]

Here is quick review of the elite kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZLFl52weN9opq8

[@kenken-sr2vq]

Any video reviews on the Topdon Plus vs Lauch X431 Pro vs Autel MK906 within the $1,200 range cant find any comparing to find the best bang for the buck to work best on GM and Chevrolet, Ford Etc..?

[@weldingjunkie]

Mk Autel’s aren’t great and they aren’t made for USA

[@weldingjunkie]

@@kingyankee69 The MK908 & MK 808 are sold as a global machine they don’t support can FD for GM, no auto auth for Chrysler- they are terrible for the USA. Those 2 anyway the 909/919/ultra etc are excellent the MS models are USA models

[@RANDOMFIX]

Sorry Ken for the late reply! did you find a solution?

[@user-MTW]

Hello my friend, I love this device. How many functions does the car support? Does he program the sensors .. Is this better than other examination devices compared to its price and features? waiting for your reply

[@RANDOMFIX]

Sorry for the late reply! did you find a solution?

[@user-MTW]

Hello, my brother. I bought the Launch Pro 5 with internet connection support and the J2534 feature. The price of the device is approximately 800 dollars.. I am now looking for a better device, and I think I will change the company to Autel

[@RANDOMFIX]

Yes, I think Autel is a better choice

[@user-MTW]

@@RANDOMFIX Your channel is amazing and you are amazing, thank you

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thank you and let me know how it goes with that new Autel.

[@mohdibrahim1350]

Thanks. If I don’t update it, will it stop working or just whatever last update will be in the tool?

[@RANDOMFIX]

It will still work even if the updates stop.

[@gunpornstar8379]

Looking to get my first scanner. Is this one good for diesel trucks too?

[@RANDOMFIX]

I would go with the elite version. Email the vendor before you but and I think thinkcar has a HD version that is great for HD diesel trucks.

[@gunpornstar8379]

@@RANDOMFIX Thank you!

[@olamabambi4193]

Can it do small quantity diesel injector learning for a Mitsubishi Pajero 2010

[@RANDOMFIX]

I didn't see your commeent before, do you still need help?

[@crabjoe]

Can this unit do CAN FD with the addition of the CAN FD cable?

[@RANDOMFIX]

You need the elite for can fd.

[@crabjoe]

@@RANDOMFIX Can I ask why TOPDON sells a CAN FD adapter, if the adapter won't work? Might the adapter only work with some of their scanners?

[@RANDOMFIX]

You maybe right, you may want to call Topdon before purchasing. Let me know what they say if you find out.

[@crabjoe]

@@RANDOMFIX I ended up calling them and was told that the Phoenix Plus will support CAN-FD using the adapter. That's an added cost of $119, but you get CAN-FD with it. It does bring up another question. If you hook up the Phoenix Plus or any Scan tool that doesn't support CAN-FD, but the vehicle does. What happens? Does the vehicle fallback to CAN 2.0 or does the scanner just not work with that vehicle? BTW, I was told that Phoenix Plus possibly might be going the way of the Doodo bird. I asked why it wasn't listed on their website and was told they didn't know if they were getting any more units in. Was told they would keep supporting it for the known future. It didn't sound like they had any official word as to if this was just a stock issue or this model was actually discontinued. They could only tell me the didn't have any stock and didn't have any estimate as to when or if they would be available down the road directly from them.

[@jasonelliot9633]

Will it operate purge solenoid and shut valve and show crank sensor and cam sensor signals and yes I know it depends on the vehicle

[@RANDOMFIX]

Yes it should

[@jasonelliot9633]

@RANDOMFIX no offense but if you don't know for sure don't even answer the question the scan tool isn't cheap....but my question was answered the correct way and a video demonstrating that it does operate purge solenoid and vent valve

[@RANDOMFIX]

No offense taken but it does supply the information you are looking but th only way to be sure is email the vendor like you mentioned, send them your vin and ask for a list of supported features. Good luck 🍀👍

[@jasonelliot9633]

@RANDOMFIX I wasn't asking what car it supports I was asking if it was capable of it so I know it has full bi directional controls

[@malukojoe]

does this scanner has diag for cylinder misfire?

[@RANDOMFIX]

Yes, misfire count is available. Do already own this tool?

[@gunite28]

Ecu recoding?

[@RANDOMFIX]

You most likely need a elite not a plus kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZLFl52weN9opq8 I will have a detailed review of the elite coming.

[@nitromax5150]

Hey does it test batteries and alternators or do you have to buy an additional product?

[@RANDOMFIX]

You have to buy an additional product for that. You would be better off buying a simple 150 amp load tester for testing the battery and alternator.

[@nitromax5150]

@@RANDOMFIX thanks I appreciate it. But 750 a year for updates?? Is that right?

[@RANDOMFIX]

550, yes after the first 2 years. This is really a professional grand tool that should be used to generate income probably overkill for a diy weekend mechanic!

[@davidgriffin14]

The promo code isn't working. Any suggestions?

[@RANDOMFIX]

Sorry for the late reply! did you find a solution?

[@gearjunkie3402]

Same thing as the thinktool pro. 750 dollars 2 years free updates

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thanks for sharing I haven't tried the thinktool pro. I will check it out. If that is the case this is abetter value at 3 years of updates for $600 not to mention the coupons available to save even more.

[@VashthStampeede]

The Phoenix plus more closely relates to the Thinktool ProS at about a thousand dollars. There's a new Thinktool Pad 10 on the global market that is going after the Phoenix Elite. You can find it for around a thousand. From the hype, a little better than the plus, but not quite the Elite.

[@RANDOMFIX]

Great information, thank you sharing

[@honcho714]

With covid times you really have to take it easy ?

[@RANDOMFIX]

Sorry for the late reply! did you find a solution?

[@user-sr9hz4ky7u]

How much that kind of scanner sir?

[@RANDOMFIX]

These are running from 800 to 1500 but there are better options now as these units are older. Let me know if you need any recommendations for some of the less expensive units.

[@oskarsbergs]

Does it do mileage correction ?

[@RANDOMFIX]

I high recommend reaching out to TOPDON and providing them your vin number and ask about the mileage correction. I would also look at the ELITE model.

[@oskarsbergs]

@@RANDOMFIX I found in User manual that TOPDON Phoneix Plus have ODO reset function with option write kilometers. only i couldn't find supported car list for that. Let me know if you have this function :)

[@wallacemenezes1143]

Real can fd ?

[@RANDOMFIX]

Sorry for the late reply! did you find a solution?

[@fernandoleopoldomelladocor1392]

Al parecer el xtool d9 pro ,es muy superior a este topdon.Saludos

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thank you for the feedback. I have tested the d8s and d8 but not d9. I have Xtool ip919 coming in this week for a review, let’s see how it goes.

[@qre268Zrtb]

sorry but after 5 mins of a hand continually spoiling the view I have left. Maybe a pointer would be better. It gets really really distracting, I'm trying to look at the screen and to be honest it's a shame.

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thanks for the feedback

[@qre268Zrtb]

@@RANDOMFIX I apologise for being an ass, I was grumpy, but I really want to buy a Scanner and I wanted the info from a proper expert (mechanicical) like yourself. Thank you for your reply.

[@RANDOMFIX]

No worries, I’m here to help and let me know if you have any specific questions.

[@danktreez5115]

TopDon made by launch. Same as launch in every single way. That being said, their scanners suck just like launch stuff. Misses codes, slow data streams, misses modules completely. But for 1k it is not too bad. Autel much better at everything.

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thank you sharing..how much would a similar autel scan tool be?

[@danktreez5115]

@@RANDOMFIX That is exactly the problem. Not sure autel has anything at that price point that does what the launch does. Honestly, having them both is worth it. I have every single dealer scanner and still grab autel and launch for quick access to stuff I know works for what I need it to do. For best all around tool I would get an autel elite or something around 2k that comes with 2 years of updates. But at 800 - 1k, Topdon, Launch, thinkdiag (all are made by launch) are almost impossible to beat. But they have drawbacks like every single scanner ever made. Best bang for the buck by far is going with Diagzone. Get a compatible dongle and its 100 for a year and never quits working. Works on android. Same exact thing as new Topdon or Launch or Thinkdiag. Even uses same exact topology. The other bonus with Autel would be it has a j2534 vci and you can use that with the oem dealer stuff.

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thanks for sharing. And I 100% agree that there is no tool under 2k that does everything however maybe 85% is covered. But this $540 per fee for updates is also crazy. Last I had an autel it was $250 a year this was back in 2014-2016.

[@danktreez5115]

@@RANDOMFIX They have all become very greedy with update prices. We can thank companies like snap on for that. Snap on has spent decades boning us for updates with insane prices and for years we all paid them. The Chinese figured this out and have gone the same route. Have to look at these thing like something you buy and hopefully get 2 years of updates. Then sell it and get a new one with another 2 years of updates.

[@RANDOMFIX]

I hear that or someone needs to start hacking the updates. Trust me there is someone that has done this. I got a Mucar vo6 and the vendor sent it fully unlocked so I gave support for life or until tool is useless.

[@WV591]

Don't forget to tell people, if you don't continue the upgrades, you lose bi directional features and this bocomes a 200 dollar scanner.

[@costantineyoussif6679]

Do you recommend any bidirectional scanner that is lifetime update ? Thanks

[@jasonelliot9633]

You don't lose bi directional controls if you don't update

[@RANDOMFIX]

Sorry for the late reply! did you find a solution?

[@milliondollar2981]

​@@jasonelliot9633😡,gosh I hope not,,those updates are high!

[@user-vh9iv4lp1l]

Please never do this again Ever

[@RANDOMFIX]

Why? What happened?

[@user-vh9iv4lp1l]

@@RANDOMFIX Randomfix, I can't explain how bad this video is.I am an auto electricician of 40 years experiance and know that i still havent finished my apprentiship.If somone is goining to spend a few quid on a diagnostic tool they dont need a whole episode of whats in the box.I have had the phoenix plus for about 2 years now and it has been weighed,measured and left wanting.My dealer kit has leads that cost more than the phoenix plus,but I understand this is a pricey tool for some.So as a pricey tool with obvious flaws,can you please in fututre get to the POINT of bi directional tool capabilities,not whats in the box.

[@RANDOMFIX]

Thank you for the feedback, noted!

[@user-vh9iv4lp1l]

you would think after 40 years I could spell electrician!

[@user-vh9iv4lp1l]

@@RANDOMFIX Thank you also.