Rank 1000 vs Rank 13 TopSpin 2K25 Player vs Player Gameplay | World Tour | Intense Match

[@MoreAyReef]

Thanks for 100 subs! Commentary starts at 2:55. I was so focused that I forgot to put my mic down lol.

[@ИванДжамбов-о3н]

I hate the fact that its almost impossible to do a dropshot winner cus I love them irl

[@MoreAyReef]

Same here. But at the same time, once you get one it is pretty satisfying

[@Kropeeek]

The same situation like in topspin4…

[@shunz5677]

Dropshots are very poorly executed in this game. Even if you hit them with perfect timing and direction (which is very difficult), it's often just shorter and easier to get slice :P And even if you somehow hit them just behind the net - 90% of opponents will get it, even if they were previously standing behind the baseline. Very unrealistic.

[@loc7909]

At least net play is somewhat viable in this one. That's a first even if it's just against the computer.

[@2kbk926]

I mean in real life dropshots are super difficult on clay. But yeah not as hard as in-game

[@felixjiu638]

The wide serve is just part of the problem. The real problem is the overpowered power shot. With diesel power shots and fatality, players can launch precise rockets wherever they want regardless of how well you return the serve.

[@MoreAyReef]

Yeah, that is true. It’s so hard to win those points

[@felixjiu638]

@@MoreAyReef it amazes me when i make a good slice they still manage to hit a flat rocket right from the ground while somehow the ball has enough spin to fly above the net and miraculously drop at the corner in time.

[@Krampus6-1-6]

Speed of the player helps alot against wide serve cheese but the game needs some balancing.

[@felixjiu638]

@@Krampus6-1-6 explains why everyone is 90 power 90 speed, this would never happen in top spin 4 when they didnt have custom skill points

[@Krampus6-1-6]

@@felixjiu638 if you have no skill you need to abuse the meta. Only hitting power shots etc.

[@SeptianAngelo-no9ol]

This video made me remember my days of playing semi professional tennis. Good old days. How I wish I could go back. Time flies 😔

[@MoreAyReef]

Congrats on those times! Yeah time really does fly. I used to play varsity tennis and the team aspect was so great. Good old days for sure

[@garycornhouse4276]

It looks like a great tennis game, feels like I am still watching the French Championship

[@MoreAyReef]

It really is fun. Thanks!!

[@AnoHarris]

What a match! Definitely subbing👌

[@MoreAyReef]

I appreciate that a lot, thanks!

[@vJGoon]

Good match bro! 💪

[@MoreAyReef]

Good game!

[@markuseliasen3638]

Is there any sound cues whenever somebody does a specific play? Like would it benefit you playing with ingame sounds?

[@MoreAyReef]

I barely play with sounds. It doesn't really make much of a difference

[@Kassemus]

What a great timing, I like watching the video. How did u learn this perfection?

[@MoreAyReef]

Thank you! Just practice :)

[@juanfiel3027]

literally if u serve wide, you win 100% of the points, good game

[@Drageara]

I think the game should fix that close to wide line serve. Increase the probability of fail because that is such a cheese move in tennis game. In real life literally no one does that but in games more times than not it's undefendable.

[@christopheranderson3995]

Can’t wait to play topspin is a amazing game

[@MoreAyReef]

It is fun, I hope you enjoy!

[@_No20_]

Can you show your fittings and coach bro? I’m a sub, love your channel, you are entertaining.

[@MoreAyReef]

Thanks! I’ll make a build vid soon. My coach is mikolaj or however you spell his name lol

[@uweSMG]

question from a starter: i see u doing almost powershots only.......what about controlled shots? do u use them? and when?

[@legodestroyer11]

this video is when power shots were so broken and OP. You didnt need to use anything else

[@GEEKEDANIMENERD]

First off your tennis iq has improved by a lot and your adding more variety in your game it’s massively helped you glad to see!! When people wide serve your stepping into the court which in theory seems good but the problem with it , in irl tennis u only do this with second serves because the shots r more attack able , in a video game it’s not the case on top of the fact doing that. Your putting yourself to far in the court to half to reset , in those positions u go running towards the the net . It costed u a lot of points doing that Your player doesn’t have the best return build , so when there going wide adding more slices gives u more time to recover your position, if your gonna try and go for the return with a stroke , aim it more toward there feet this is what Novak does that allows him to be such a good returner . Another option u can do is u can go further back the ball has to bounce meaning it can reach a further distance then people think in doing this u can actually give your self a lot of. Sharper angle but keep in mind it’s a high risk , high reward , the down line will be open for the server especially if they cut the ball off early. Doing these option thou ^ will eventually not consistently but it will eventually allow u to win a game or take it to deuce The drop shots although I ahevnt played the game yet your doing it in a straight line which isn’t how drop shots typically work irl U typically want to do it at a angle such as ↖️↗️like these , the reason being your cutting the distance the ball will travel meaning it will be closer to the net Obviously in tennis u can do straight drop shots but when people do that notice how they add a lot more extra spin on the ball it’s to cut the distance which is why it typically doesn’t stay in the same place . Also when your at the middle of volley line , if someone drop shots u , the best option isn’t to hit the ball deep the reason being u don’t have enough time to rest yourself this is why when u do that tactic most of the time u win the point , So in those situations a drop on another drop shot puts u in a lot moreee favorable postion the opponent has to run to the net while your already at the net giving u a much higher chance at winning the point even if they get the ball. You also have a fear of approaching the net there’s many times where u r in the middle of the court in a very advantageous position to where u can easily close the point out and save stamina but u choose to go back and reset allowing the opponent to rest the point , Ik your build is more just like a delpo type build , but even then he still went to the net to close out points. The best way to look at it if your in a rally and a lot of your momentum is coming forward when your well past the baseline u typically want to go forward Also when you served and volley it was a good idea u actually had the point but u hit it in the middle never do that when u volley there meant for having angles , if the oppent is close to the baseline your first shot should typically should be one of 2 options 1. Should be as deep as possible to the baseline to make the 2nd hit not so good or 2. U cut the angle of the ball and make it very low with an angle these r typically what u want to do then your follow up shot is typically your closer Again thou much much better improvement in your game by a lot !!!

[@MoreAyReef]

Thanks!!

[@ayeayroncali6977]

Bro your attention to the game of tennis is unmatched. What a thoughtful and concise thought process. Please play the game and let me know how you hit it like Novak so the ball lands on the opponent’s feet intentionally 😊

[@glens1800]

Is this game worth buying? I’ve been debating it

[@MoreAyReef]

Hmm I think it is on sale rn so maybe? It really depends on what you are wanting to get out of it. Career mode leaves a lot to be desired, but gameplay is pretty fun. However, online can get kind of repetitive since a lot of people play the same way. I enjoy it, but I bought the grand slam edition and don’t think it was worth that price at all

[@loc7909]

Really sad that after over a decade we get a tennis game with some minor improvements over topspin 4. Im grateful we finally have something a little better. Maybe in 30 years we'll finally get a decent tennis sim.

[@MoreAyReef]

30 years may be too optimistic 🫠

[@Sensible1]

Lmfao

[@_No20_]

Can you also do a tutorial on how you serve, what type of serve you do, maybe talk about where best to use each shot. I noticed flat shots are not to be used on the sides of the court, they always go to the net, but I’d love to learn more on how to use proper finishers according to the situation.

[@MoreAyReef]

Good idea! If I go up against someone evenly ranked, I may make one just to show my thought process

[@Kbonefan]

I agree a serve tutorial, showcasing what/when buttons are being pressed would be great!!

[@wally19]

great game! fun to watch

[@MoreAyReef]

Thanks for watching! I appreciate it

[@mr.b.9890]

Anybody else notice how his serve is easily controlled? Am i missing something here? Y is he able to control it so easily? And his target circle is much smaller than i typically see. Reason for this???

[@MoreAyReef]

I’m not sure? It may depend on how close to the end of the timer you’re getting

[@jspree2024]

Just a power abuser like most people in the game.. no real tennis IQ

[@MoreAyReef]

Thanks for the kind words

[@lfugh1]

real life tennis iq doesn’t exactly translate to video game tennis

[@yoriichi7323]

Hello, brother. How can I keep uploading statistics after 70? I don't understand how to upload more statistics for my player 70.

[@yigitkerimonur3659]

You need to hire coaches and finish their objectives to improve stats different coaches comes with different +attributes. Take a look and chose the best one for your playstyle.

[@MoreAyReef]

Yep, hire coaches and also add fittings (grip, strings, and frame)

[@РусланБимбасов]

Красавчик! Продолжай снимать в том же духе, у тебя отлично получается

[@jessetuozzopickleball6680]

How do you get perfect timing everytime lol

[@MoreAyReef]

Haha, thanks! I’ve just gotten used to my animations since I’ve been using the same ones since launch week.

[@KrasimirGemedzhiev]

Thats was interesting match but they should do something with serves bcuz its OP

[@MoreAyReef]

They have fixed it in the latest update that came a couple weeks ago. It's definitely not as bad as it was during this video!

[@domjoyce6005]

You're an incredible player, I have no idea how you get to play like this!

[@MoreAyReef]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@marlon7826]

Great match!

[@MoreAyReef]

Thanks!!

[@nohaybanda6738]

No netgame?

[@Fritzebitze]

brother playing in long pants :D

[@MoreAyReef]

😆, them clay courts get cold in the shade haha

[@Abo_soso7]

Am buying this now .i see 40% off on the Deluxe edition

[@jonathanb1406]

Out of curiosity, why do you move around so much on the baseline when receiving serve? Feels like it should be counterproductive really, hard enough to fend off the wide serve-blast it cross court one-two at the best of times without leaving yourself even more ground to cover by standing off the court in the tramlines haha. Crazy that this guy was still so committed to just trying to abuse the wide serve/cross court combo with how open it was down the middle, haha.

[@MoreAyReef]

Good question. It’s just so that I can get a head start if I guess correctly. It’s a lot easier to get to the ball from a moving position than from being completely stationary in my experience. I’m moving side to side while holding the fast reposition button.

[@DarthRambo]

​@@MoreAyReefFast reposition button?

[@MoreAyReef]

@@DarthRambo lb on Xbox

[@amgadmero1320]

هل هذه لعبة في عام 2024 ... انا لا اعرف لماذا لا يستطيعون انشاء لعبة مثل top spin 4 حتي الان او حتي لعبة grand slam tennis 2 مازلت احتفظ بجهاز بلايستشن 3 لكي العب اللعبتين عليه ... لماذا كل الفشل من كل الشركات .. لا يستطيعون عمل حركة مثالية للاعبين لا يعرفون كيف تكون طريقة اللعب و الضرب والحركة والرسومات المتحركة .. انه حقا احباط

[@RudneiFerreira-gb5dz]

Que partida 👏🏾

[@MoreAyReef]

Gracias!

[@fimmt684]

Only if the animations weren't so stiff, silly and unrealistic... They literally recycled them from Top Spin 4. 0 Effort put.

[@DarthRambo]

Instead of customized attribute points, force us to pick from the preset build styles each level. That would balance the gameplay online where we would have different play styles besides just one meta. Very boring to watch if I'm honest.

[@MoreAyReef]

I agree with you. They could something like what nba 2k does. But also, they could just make it so that 30 serve is horrible. That’ll lead other attributes to go down if people need to upgrade serve

[@manuelalejandroalmonacidri9820]

Hola, eres muy bueno, me gustaría poder jugar contra ti, para ver como esta mi nivel con respecto al nivel que hay ahora en el online, yo solía jugar online al top spin 4, ahora no he jugado online en este juego, solo he jugado al modo carrera y tengo mi jugador al maximo.

[@MoreAyReef]

Gracias! I'm sure you will do well in this game online

[@davesufci1929]

The movement in this game is so unrealistic..... I can not appreciate this as a tennis player.

[@daywalker9223]

Is there any other tennis games better than this?

[@davesufci1929]

@@daywalker9223 yes, just go out and play tennis... This is a disaster game.... It is maybe even worse than old TOP Spin 4 or 3 .... Unbelieveable shame. It's 2024 FFS.

[@sfrerku]

I play tennis and I have tried several games. Nothing comes close to Top Spin 4 and this.

[@Jaydee71172]

sounds like your are bad at this game and probably bad at real tennis too😏

[@davesufci1929]

@@Jaydee71172 lol I even don't have this game...... That game is pathetic from gameplay on KZbin. Basically similar like FIFA in football... Same shallow broken sh*t.... And because I spend more time by playing tennis on real court, I would destroy you in real world. You gameboy. :))

[@ayeayroncali6977]

Why do you look at your attributes during the match

[@MoreAyReef]

I look at my opponent's stats, not my own haha. I do it just so I can see what I can take advantage of. Or if they do something ridiculous like get to a ball that I thought they shouldn't of, I look at their speed to see if maybe it makes sense that they did.

[@Nickoteen0]

I hate lvl 30 pro games. With normal pros its better gameplay

[@MoreAyReef]

Actually agreed. Hopefully their next patch will balance out the game

[@juanfiel3027]

the most unrealistic game i have ever seen, imagine been pro in this💀💀💀

[@IzakD8]

Serve out wide, hit a winner cross court. That’s literally all you have to do on serve. What a trash game. The animations and graphics are fine but this doesn’t play like a Tennis match whatsoever.

[@tizonjordan8775]

Can you talk to people online?

[@MoreAyReef]

Unfortunately not

[@xThe13thWarrior]

Tennis games have went way downhill since VT3, absolute crap this is.

[@feariingz]

This mm is trash