Actual conversation at my locals once: "What's a bad hand in Nordics?" "Nordics"
@rabbitzuu52465 жыл бұрын
F
@freman0075 жыл бұрын
It's funny because it's true.
@dominickglen83385 жыл бұрын
actually I played it with the link it a one turn odin summon so any cards you get you can get rid of anyway
@pokeperson10005 жыл бұрын
Dio the comment is three years old. Do you think the Nordic link monster existed three years ago? :P
@dominickglen83385 жыл бұрын
@@pokeperson1000 I was talking about now when they came out they make the deck amazing :P
@xianad2electricboogaloo3994 жыл бұрын
this archetype was the reason I got into yugioh. not because i like the archetype, but because I was given Thor Lord of aesir by some guy at a waffle house. I thought the card was super valuable, and didn't wanna not do something with it, so I decided to learn how to play. I've been playing lightsworns for 4 years now, and I have crippling depression.
@Trigger99X3 жыл бұрын
Epic back story, wish the deck performed much better now
@xianad2electricboogaloo3993 жыл бұрын
@@Trigger99X heh yeah, hope I meet the waffle house dude again
@StardustLegend3 жыл бұрын
@@xianad2electricboogaloo399 is there any more context to this??? like why did he give it to you?? was he drunk or on drugs or something or just feeling generous?
@bigdog4213 жыл бұрын
@@StardustLegend it seems like a similar situation like Yugi giving Jaden the Winged Kuriboh card, at least thats how i see it
@zafool49973 жыл бұрын
Expect Winged Kuriboh was a good card.
@TheAttackTaitan5 жыл бұрын
The greatest sin of this archetype is that Thor isn't a thunder type.
@RazorusR3X7774 жыл бұрын
And Laugh attribute.
@MaestroAlvis4 жыл бұрын
Why is he a beast-warrior
@waynejulian2774 жыл бұрын
no my friend the true greatest sin is the fact that tho loki and odin are designed to work together yet the tuners that loki needs dont help him in the same way guldfaxe and vandis help thor and odin besides thor and odin are stronger than loki are easier to bring out and have better on field and graveyard effects
@Emily124714 жыл бұрын
@@MaestroAlvis he's summoned via beasts
@Shugunou3 жыл бұрын
@@MaestroAlvis Because his mother was a giant
@kailikwoh4983 жыл бұрын
The way Fenrir and Jormungandr are explicitly designed to interact with each other is an extreme level of LOOOOOORE.
@dracometeors30103 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOOREEE
@superm5302 жыл бұрын
They should have been kaijus and interact with Odin, Tyr and Thor.( Like they Anti kaijus war machines). Ar least Konami has Nidhogg, Surtur, Hela, etc.,etc to redeem themselves
@Joseph-gy2rn Жыл бұрын
Where is my Hela the Nordic Goddess who let's me summon her to my opponent's side of the field and locks him in not use Nordics as material for Synchro and forget about all other summons?
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
@@Joseph-gy2rn Knightmare corruptor iblee
@sev112010 сағат бұрын
@@superm530 like, maybe a Jormungandr retrain can have an effect to tribute itself from the hand to lock down the entire board if an Aesir is on the field, and the effect lingerd until the Aesir leaves (maybe set a hard turn limit, like "after 3 of your standby phases, tribute this monster", referencing how Thor took 3 steps before dying from Jormungandr's venom), referencing how in their final battle when Jormungandr was beaten a ton of stuff stopped working is it should Maybe a Fenrir retrain can have an effect to tribute itself trom the hand, and 1 Aesir from your field, to just straight-up nuke the board, banishing EVERYTHING on the field and forcing your opponent to discard their hand. Maybe include an effect where you can let your opponent recycle banished cards back into their deck to special summon it too (referencing the lore where Fenrir was able to strike down Odin) Speaking of which, there really should be a representative for Hel in the Nordic lineup too. She had the army of the damned that marched in Ragnarok to destroy the Aesir. Maybe she's a lockdown creature where neither player can summon monsters from the extra deck whilst she's out, and you can tribute her to special summon some materials and immediately synchro summon an Aesir monster (referencing how Loki marched alongside Hel in Ragnarok)
@shokocontane5943 жыл бұрын
5 years later, and the newest Nordic supports give us: - A spell card that can SS any Nordic mons from the deck, then banish itself to search any Nordic mons. - A tuner that can SS any Nordic from hand upon summoning, recover a Nordic from the GY, and are not exclusive to any Aesir, just like Vanadis. - A monster that can search any Nordic Relic and SS itself. - A continuous trap that brings back any Aesir from the GY at the cost of tributing a Nordic, and negates the entire opponent's field if you have an Aesir. Searching? Checked Recovery? Checked Less exclusive Aesir and main deck focus? Checked Better Aesir effect? Well to some extent with the trap Y'know, I'm still convinced Konami takes your videos into consideration at some points.
@rebellion98193 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it, GJ. I am still hoping for a retrain of the Aesir (looking at you Loki) but nice support nonetheless.
@wolverineisdaman3 жыл бұрын
What are the names? I wanna add them to my nordic collection
@wildflyandspeedio30333 жыл бұрын
They are still pretty bad tho
@kichiroumitsurugi43633 жыл бұрын
@@wildflyandspeedio3033 Well, yeah, but at least they aren't just 'Nordic Beasts are king'
@dungeonmaster34643 жыл бұрын
@@wildflyandspeedio3033 They're good enough to be tested against meta decks unironically. And even though they don't stack up, they're now unarguably playing.
@pickyphysicsstudent2014 жыл бұрын
When youtube got rid of the annotations feature, it removed the annotation, Rata put into this video at about 15:54. The following is that message (paraphrased, best to memory): After re-visiting this card, I realised that there is nothing stopping your opponent from using Odin's (the monster on this card's artwork) effect to make it immune from the effects of GOTTERDAMMERUNG. This, essentially, make this card useless. "Here you go dude; free 4K beater." "Wow. What's the catch?" "There's no catch. I just hate my life."
@sebastianchavez12254 жыл бұрын
Huh neat Thanks for the info man
@thebokchoy68543 жыл бұрын
I miss annotations
@pickyphysicsstudent2013 жыл бұрын
@@thebokchoy6854 Same here. I think it was because most people used it to spam crap all over the screen, which was kind of annoying. I mean, basic red or blue boxes with text are like Window's Movie Maker level of 2008 quality. That being said alot of times it was usually used to add something important, after the video was posted. Usually, somekind of small correction is added to correct an error, like a statistic being slightly off, was done with the annotations feature.
@tcoren1 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it a lingering effect though? You cannot be unaffected by lingering effects. It's like how a wild monster apears on venominaga still destroys her at the end phase
@Signerdragon1238 жыл бұрын
I lost it at 'Your whole field dies to MST." XD
@anotherhuman25427 жыл бұрын
Signerdragon123 Eternal Soul & Dark Magician, everyone!
@dakotamcintire74196 жыл бұрын
So would using set rotation to give the nordic field spell to ones opponent and then popping it result in wiping their field or does the effect of the field spell just affect nordic/aesir monsters?
@justinfrost79706 жыл бұрын
@@anotherhuman2542 fixable by dark magician the dragon knight.
@psycdalex5 жыл бұрын
I read this as I heard it. Spooky
@emreekinci42585 жыл бұрын
Did somebody said toon world
@misterbadguy73258 жыл бұрын
I think the most indicative problem of the deck is Gleipnir, because it's the ultimate showing of how this Deck was just a nerfed 1-1 recreation of a shitty anime duel rather than an attempt to create something fun or balanced or based on Norse mythology. Why? Because do you know why it's called "The Fetters of Fenrir?" Because that's what Gleipnir was in mythology. When Fenrir showed up, the gods tried every single type of chain or bond that they could make, even chains with links the size of a man. But Fenrir, being Fenrir, could break everything in creation. So instead, they resolved to create a rope out of things that didn't exist in creation - the breath of a fish, the roots of a mountain, the sound of a cat's footfall, etc - and therefore, it would hold Fenrir until Ragnarok. So how would you interpret this myth into the real card game? You'd think it'd be a Fiendish Chain on steroids... but instead, it's a searcher. Why? Because Harald used it in the anime to add Fenrir to his hand. And why is it a Trap? Because it was a Riding Duel, meaning no spells. If not for that one scene with Harald, there would be no link between this card and the original myth, and it might as well be named Shapesnatch's Schlong for all it does to reflect mythology.
@wardenlight56255 жыл бұрын
Wow good research though you did get to things wrong A. It was a ribbon and B. It was made by dwarfs Other than that your spot on
@shekargarvey83305 жыл бұрын
Warden Light it was made using that stuff
@goudacheese74915 жыл бұрын
Those items where called paradox items.
@goudacheese74915 жыл бұрын
Warden light just read "magnus chase and the gods of asgards"
@bigz43494 жыл бұрын
Wait, you're upset that the Ribbon they used to trap Fenrir is a trap card?
@ShadowBaofu8 жыл бұрын
They were nerfed. In the anime, the Aesir Synchros could be revived for free without having to remove a Tuner.
@animaginaryboy27416 жыл бұрын
ShadowBaofu that would have been a lot better for the archetype imo
@FracturedDMR6 жыл бұрын
I feel like konami took notes from blizzard on nerfing
@MMetelli5 жыл бұрын
Late as shit (great reference to a great game, btw), but damn that auto-revival mechanic would've given weight to the idea of the nordics being immortal and revival and would've made them worth taking the risk on running.
@myheroandmadaralover23725 жыл бұрын
@@MMetelli never thoguht i see you on rota's videos
@thegreatscribbles9605 жыл бұрын
@@animaginaryboy2741 lets be real it wouldn't made it any better (maybe slighter) but one its a ass to get one aseir out (well now there is a link) but you still have to remember they need to be destroyed by your oppenant
@Hyuuga21096 жыл бұрын
Two years later, and the realization came that Rata mercifully omitted to mention the fact that Mjollnir is one of those God-forsaken Trap cards that LITERALLY have no effect during the opponent's turn, just like Dark Scorpion Combination.
@christopherb5015 жыл бұрын
Such cards should ONLY have absolutely devastating effects, like anime-Card of Demise, or anime-Riryoku.
@misterbadguy73254 жыл бұрын
It's because of anime bullshit. They were played in a Riding Duel/Turbo Duel, which stops normal Spells from being used. So Mjolnir being a Trap in the anime was necessary, and for some reason they decided not to change it to a Spell.
@oucyan8 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the Nordic Gods in the anime didn't need to banish anything to revive.
@hendrikoriestianto82798 жыл бұрын
yeah that would be too OP.
@awanderer71328 жыл бұрын
Hendriko Riestianto not even, if anything it'd make Nordic Aesir relevant lol
@fromtheh31588 жыл бұрын
David Parisi That effect isn't that bad, considering that in a nordic deck you can't get anything back once its destroyed anyhow. Also odin is synchroed with 3 monsters unless you use tokens, so thats already 3 revives.
@kamusioso7 жыл бұрын
They revive banishing Tuners
@oucyan7 жыл бұрын
not in the anime they don't. they revive for free in the anime
@morriganpandora37878 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on that Orichalcos archetype adaptation Konami....
@SugarSyrupQueen8 жыл бұрын
We've got a revised Divine Serpent Geh, which is level 12 like it should've been in the first place, can't be targeted by card effects and always has effectively twice the original ATK of a monster it battles, and we've had Orichalcos Shunoros for a while too; so that's three out of however many cards that ridiculous "archetype" had.
@lamronjr87858 жыл бұрын
there were about 9 more cards in the archetype. theres the three variations of the orichalcos field spell as well.
@SugarSyrupQueen8 жыл бұрын
Malevolence, Gigas, Dexia, Aristeros, Kyutora, Mirror Knight Calling, Orichalcos Mirror and the three variants of the seal. Most of their effects are pretty outdated; they'd have to have some sort of revision to ever be implemented. Any old spinning/bouncing, or even targeted removal can dispose of them if they keep their effects.
@ianhunter9198 жыл бұрын
Hand and Deck bouncing for gigas would kill it but it can't banished and or destroyed without getting revived so thats decent at least
@SugarSyrupQueen8 жыл бұрын
Ian Hunter You have to skip your own draw phase to summon it again from the graveyard. Otherwise it's just a beater you can keep attacking over until it gets big enough for you to pop Honest and swing for game. More of a glorified "hit me" sign that stops you from drawing cards as long as you choose to keep reviving it.
@runningoncylinders38298 жыл бұрын
Gotterdammerung! Nordics seems like such a disjointed archetype. The 4 sub-archetypes are baffling. The monsters should have all just been called "Nordic" and suddenly any of their tuners would be like Vanadis. I think the only archetype that can pull off conditional card names and not be terrible is Fluffals because they have better synergy between their 3 archetypes.
@thesnesgeek3 жыл бұрын
If they were generic, they would competitive play.
@sev112010 сағат бұрын
Or hell, you could have it still be 3 sub-archetypes, with cards that help you get specific archetypal creatures for field-wide buffs. Maybe a Nordic Beasts one that gives a field-wide attack boost if you have 2 or more nordic beasts or if Thor is in play A Nordic Alfar one that gives a once per turn free negate with 2 or more alfar or if Loki is in play A nordic ascendant one that gives tribute-free high level summons if you have enough ascendant or if Odin is in play Then make the synchros only need a "Nordic" tuner and it's all good
@Gozuma27 жыл бұрын
I tried making nordic ojamas. Help.
@SilverCyborgSliver4 жыл бұрын
You are beyond saving. On the other hand, I'm going to hell for building Slifer Ojama....
@sus46444 жыл бұрын
@@SilverCyborgSliver i once ran ojama kuribohs and won duels. We are living in the worst timeline.
@SilverCyborgSliver4 жыл бұрын
@I Need The Memes Please explain
@dannyboycomics8 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking Golden Apples is a support for them, but it's generic apparently.
@ChaosNo65SolarWind7 жыл бұрын
It's a Nordic card as much as the generic-effect Relics are, it just doesn't have a name-relation, only in artwork and basis. And it was used with the Alfar in the anime.
@MrGshinobi8 жыл бұрын
Also, one suggestion about this segment. It would be cool if you tried to make a deck of the shitty archtype you showed in the video and showcased a duel or two with them, just to see how the deck would go off.
@rank10ygo8 жыл бұрын
+Gshiinobi I actually had that in mind, but I was afraid it would make videos a bit too long. I'll consider it in the future.
@MrGshinobi8 жыл бұрын
RANK10YGO Yes! i'm sure it would make this segment even more enjoyable! (btw can i suggest cloudians? i'll suggest cloudians)
@rank10ygo8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of doing Cloudians but I don't really consider them a terrible archetype. For the time they were released in, Cirrostratus, Acid Cloud and Atlus were decent cards, there's a Quasar variant that surprisingly works, Nimbusman OTK used to be very potent, they're just an overall... tolerable archetype.
@MrGshinobi8 жыл бұрын
RANK10YGO Hmm i see, i personally don't think they're that bad, just slow and outdated. Well then, i'd like to see maybe the gx roid cards? or the genex archetype, yeah, those would be interesting episodes.
@themagicalrobotprisma27938 жыл бұрын
That segment idea would make a pretty good show
@Hyuuga21096 жыл бұрын
Welp. So sorry Rata, here comes all the comments about you quote unquote memeing Nordic Link support into existence. On a more serious note, it is genuinely interesting to see Konami give these guys another chance instead of yet another batch of nostalgia support for protagonists and/or main rivals.
@spaciebun6 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, in the new Legendary Hero decks, some of the Nordic monsters are getting revised as Link Monsters.
@darthkaj82746 жыл бұрын
They got a Link monster. And it’s so “Nordic” it hurts because it really doesn’t do much.
@paulhanley12365 жыл бұрын
The link helps the deck immensely. The problem is it depletes to many resources and at the end of the day your still playing nordics. The link and alviss were far better than what the nordics had before making a turn one aesir is incredibly better than what it did before. The problem with the deck is the deck it’s self two new cards can not fix a deck that just has no synergy or lack of monsters that actually give you some value
@rar3burga9903 жыл бұрын
The problem is that it was to small if they kept going maybe giving them something to get your cards back an actual field spell and keep going in that direction of bringing your boss monsters out early they wouldn’t be good but they would at least be semi playable maybe even add new boss monsters that add good effects that are worth it maybe making the enemy banish some cards or adding a big monster that is unaffected by card effects permanently and has a load of attack points as a sort of win condition add a card that summons a Nordic monster from the extra deck but gets destroyed during the end phase or something
@electricserge83027 жыл бұрын
Valkyrie's effect was so much better in the anime, you could activate its effect even if you controlled another card and instead of banishing the nordic cards you just send them to the graveyard
@zad_rasera7 жыл бұрын
You can also send any card to the grave, not necessarily Nordics.
@drawbyyourselve8 жыл бұрын
@RANK10YGO you actually did pretty good on pronouncing "götterdämmerung"
@yetiornot57265 жыл бұрын
It's almost like his native tongue allows for subtle vowel manipulation lol (just realized this sounds like I'm trolling; I'm not, just thought it was ironic)
@stonebehemoth23314 жыл бұрын
I prefer RAGNARÖK myself
@ThatOneWeirdFlex10 ай бұрын
@@yetiornot5726i watch a lot of swedish and nordic youtube content so I've gotten pretty good at it myself
@phantorange38015 жыл бұрын
In duel links, i summon Odin in turn 1. Oponent turn 2: i summon ojama indigo and use enemy controler...
@Dragonecro09878 жыл бұрын
I find this interesting that no one in the comments has brought this up but in every modern Nordic build, you can usually see them packing 3 of Temple of the Kings because of how you can activate a Trap Card the turn it was set. So that turns the search trap into a medallion I guess you could say. Also while I do agree that Konami did not do Nordics enough justice, I still enjoy this archetype and will do so for a long time.
@4137Swords3 жыл бұрын
Damn this was back when you only had 600 Subscribers??? Man you've come far
@TheMansterTruck7 жыл бұрын
Gotterdammerung showing the WORST card to use it with on the art is such a 5ds konami thing to do lmao
@elrodrigo61888 жыл бұрын
All of the Aesir's designs are terrible, too. Why does Loki have boobs? What the hell is Odin even holding? What the hell is up with Thor's hammer?
@emmasofia36228 жыл бұрын
Odin holds a staff, and Thor's hammer is pretty big
@misterbadguy73258 жыл бұрын
Also: Thor has man-panties.
@XFlare178 жыл бұрын
well loki did give birth to an 8 legged horse, it would need something to suckle.
@thefrogger65078 жыл бұрын
The hammer looks like a perfume bottle on a tree branch!
@thegayghost8727 жыл бұрын
That's his shirt, probably a spear, and I have no idea
@virtueofsunlight13427 жыл бұрын
your vids are so fun... yet so depressing
@manno7218 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see cloudians now that you mentioned them.
@DragonFreaktheGreat8 жыл бұрын
I second this.
@TheSchranksalat8 жыл бұрын
Damn dude you deserve wayyy more subs. One can actually tell that youput a lot of time and effort into your videos. Keep up the great work man, one day youll get your deserved hype.
@rank10ygo8 жыл бұрын
+TheSchranksalat Thanks, I try. Also, the channel only started in October last year, so it needs so time to build up subs. Spread it around and there'll be views aplenty
@TheSchranksalat8 жыл бұрын
+RANK10YGO I will! Btw, because you even mention them do frequently, how about a LOTW Ice Barrier Video?
@TheSchranksalat8 жыл бұрын
+TheSchranksalat so*
@rank10ygo8 жыл бұрын
Super secret hint: Check the channel on April 1st for that one
@Yozzoy8 жыл бұрын
Huh, I think some of these are like the proto Yang Zing (Specifically the Tuners that Summon from the deck/tokens for easy Synchros). Minus the floating of course.
@rank10ygo8 жыл бұрын
+Yozzoy The real proto Yang Zing would be Gustos, mainly due to the focus on floating and Special Summoning from the Deck.
@Yozzoy8 жыл бұрын
RANK10YGO True, but you see a few shades here and there. While Gustos were the predecessors, some of these Nordics seemed to have established certain ideas, granted not executed well.
@Yozzoy8 жыл бұрын
That or maybe its the sleep deprivation and overstudying talking. Ah well, excellent video
@Brian4hand8 жыл бұрын
GOT HER DAMN RUN haha great American accent the annotation was even funnier..."whats the catch" "there is no catch i just hate my life" LOL
@kirinthewanderer58964 ай бұрын
rewatching in 2024 and when he said 'fenrir' it triggered my fight or flight response.
@Joseph-gy2rn Жыл бұрын
Even in anime the Serpent of the World and Fenrir combo fails and Yusei uses both of them as material to D.D Spirit and a Speed Spell card, so yeah, even in anime where everything can happen, even there this combo fails, do you really think this thing can work?
@KirkLazarus2868 жыл бұрын
I love this series these videos are hilarious and keep up the awesome work
@phoenixdblack8 жыл бұрын
Gotterdammerung is actually kinda German. Although we write this as "Götterdämmerung" It means Twilight of the Gods or ragnarok in danish. Also you speak it ˌɡəːtəˈdɛmərʊŋ
@heroeus81735 жыл бұрын
Thats because Norse mythology and old german mythology is basically the same
@SilverCyborgSliver4 жыл бұрын
@@heroeus8173 ehhh, not really, but kinda. German mythology does not really exist actually, since our country didn't exist long enough (at least not on its own). The reason many people associate it with norse mythology is a certain man with a weird moustache, who figured that militarizing german people would be easier if they considered themself some kind of repressed people who have a long history behind them. That's why the "Varus-Sage" was invented, which connected the roman warlord Varus, who was able to form an alliance with a germanic (not sure if that's the right word in english, but in german there's a difference between germans and germanics, germanics were basically vikings) tribe in order set a trap to a roman batallion that wanted to see him dead. Hitler and his followers reinterpreted this as the founding of german people, which it wasn't, just so that they could have the germans think of themself as a kind of "chosen" people. That's also the reason why Albert Speer, Hitlers architect, embedded a lot of norse mythology into his buildings (mainly reliefs at the entrances), so that this idea could be implemented in daily life.
@@SilverCyborgSliverNordic, I think. English speakers know Vikings as Nords (outside of the Bethesda games like Skyrim). I don't know how accurate that is to their culture, but it's kind of just what we've been taught here.
@thestuffofnerdz4467 жыл бұрын
Laughed so much during this; great analysis man. Love these vids
@CoppermineTypeK8 жыл бұрын
They coulda been good If their synchros were generic
@Icagel08 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Kallberg If they were generic that would be another excuse to never touch any other of their cards lol
@vivienjoly76178 жыл бұрын
leo is generic and much better than all the 3 aesirs
@PaulO08458 жыл бұрын
love your channel!
@KasaiWolf078 жыл бұрын
"You won't be running Nordic Lights unless your a complete dolt" I don't know why but this comment made me burst out laughing XD
@everlastingsapling8794 Жыл бұрын
18:36 Has anyone notice how ODD Odin’s card art looks? Like, it doesn’t look like Odin’s eye, since it looks reptilian/demonic, and the hand doesn’t look familiar at all- was this card art meant for something else?
@matthewludivico17145 жыл бұрын
Gungnir is very nice for disrupting cheap combos like Power of the Guardians, and also disrupting expensive tribute summons, without wasting a good counter spell card, and it is also a D.D. capsule. I play it with Nordic Beasts plus unicorn horns.
@MarshmallowHope536 Жыл бұрын
I remember I was playing against somebody with my anime/playground deck and was able to special summon Guldfaxe using its effect and my opponent was shocked at how specific it’s summoning requirement was and that I managed to use it
@Inhaledcorn5 жыл бұрын
Imagine this for support: Treasure Room of the Divine Relics (Continuous Spell) You can activate Trap cards that specifically list "Nordic" and "Aesir" monsters from your hand. Once per turn, during your End Phase, you can add one "Divine Relic" card from your Deck to your hand, except "Treasure Room of the Divine Relics". Additionally, expand on the Nordic Champions idea, having more mythological Nordic Heroes that can replace the specifics of Nordic Tuners, or Special Summon themselves when there are Nordic Tuners to make getting the gods out easier. Maybe having GY effects that also protect the gods or give them other effects. I mean, yeah, they made support, but that was *lazy* support. That was a brute forced attempt to make the deck into something viable instead of taking what's already there and doing something with it, or expanding upon an idea that might be there, like turning Fenrir and Jormungdr into Kaiju.
@Ohnonoki8 жыл бұрын
All of these are good, thank you!
@Icagel08 жыл бұрын
*at min **7:21* What do you mean? Garmr Is pretty amazing! It also disrupts Gemini and decks that use counters and... what do you mean those stopped being played years ago? Oh well... Next Monster
@daneiltherat23276 жыл бұрын
Also it could just be set.
@adhamwashere53203 жыл бұрын
Mimir: They call me Mimir, the smartest man alive, and I have the answer to your every question. Me: Why aren't the Nordic cards any good? Mimir: ... Okay there are a few gaps in my knowledge.
@CarmsCelestia7 жыл бұрын
15:40 : It is called "Götterdämmerung" which is German for "Dawn of the Gods"
@jerryhan45638 жыл бұрын
I remember running this in 2014, it was quite fun running it.
@theburgerking12365 жыл бұрын
Konami should prolly idk actually play Yu-Gi-Oh! when they’re making cards
@RAINIBEAR4 жыл бұрын
Not just Konami but creators, in general. They have no idea what gamers like and how games play out because, generally, they don't play games.
@theburgerking12364 жыл бұрын
@@RAINIBEAR yeah it is really obvious that they really haven’t done any sort of research for balancing
@MrMarinus188 жыл бұрын
the confusing thing for me is that they were nerfed from the anime. In the anime the syncrho's didn't need their tuner monsters and Valkyrie didn't have that effect as Haldr used it's effect while having 2 synchro monsters plus a face-down on the field.
@Metaknight1452 жыл бұрын
Nordics actually topped a regional. Is that the first legacy of the worthless archetype to top an event?
@rusiu238 жыл бұрын
I love this series keep up the good work
@ultimatetadpole96075 жыл бұрын
Nordics (if you may be able to tell) are my deck. As in, for nearly 2 years I hunted down other Nordic players to defeat them and show my skill. They're, a very unique deck I think. I dropped Loki (HE ISN'T EVEN.AN AESIR KONAMI) and focused on the Beasts. Using some solid tech like Super Nimble Mega Hamster and BLS, Norfics can actually be pretty damn good. You have to run a lot of backrow, and Pot of D at 3. But once you geta real handle on it, they're a damn good deck. Ljosalfar is a great card that can let you hit level 8s pretty easy by the way. I find people focus too much on the Synchros. I always took the strategy that Odin and Thor aren't an absolute necessity to win because you can make level 7s and 8s pretty easy. I'm really passionate about this deck. It can be flexible, powerful and pretty consistant. My rose tinted glasses will forever remind me of the days when I'd drink mead, wear my "Drink mead and praise Odin" t-shirt and destroy all manner of decks on the old DN. Other people may not love Nordics, but for me they were my favourite deck in the game by a long shot.
@bryansuminski75438 жыл бұрын
I just recently found your channel, and I have to say that I love your sense of humor.
@taylormcallister17134 жыл бұрын
My old way I used to win in one turn was to attack with Odin, activate megingjord, then use Honest to hit my opponent for 8000. It was great when I pulled it off. Rarely came up though
@bjarnivalur63303 жыл бұрын
Your pronunciation of Ljósálf is way better than most that I've heard.
@NovaBugDrayosix8 жыл бұрын
they nurdered the nordic god monsters, as in the anime it was never stated they needed spcifically a nordic tuner of any kind, and also in the anime the revival effect WAS FREE. no banishing required, no nothing, they just automatecly brought themselves back. i mean theres a big plot point i remember from the anime where thor keeps getting blown up continually, then resurrecting and smacking yusei with hefty burn damage (hefty because they only play with 4000 lifepoints). if they had kept the nordic gods the same as they were represented in the anime completly, they would have actually been pretty good in my opinion, especially for destruction heavy decks like fire kings or scraps. while i'm not saying the nordic gods would be top tier or anything, they would definetly be far more of a force to be reckoned with, especially if you pair them with mask of restrict, mound of the bound creator, and imperial iron wall.
@dr.dylansgame55836 жыл бұрын
yeah honestly without the nerfs and a little more thought/more actually useful support the archtype could have been amazing but just goes to show that with konami your only going to get crushed dreams no matter what product of theres you buy
@r.a.panimefan21096 жыл бұрын
Agreed i actually did a match with wat there effects were in the show i took on two people one using yangzing the other using masked hero
@DragonFreaktheGreat8 жыл бұрын
Loving this series!
@MrEvilJoey7 жыл бұрын
I disagree with having this deck in this series. While the majority of the archetype is worthless, Nordic did get a handful of YCS tops back in 2011 thanks to the goats and horse and the majority of that deck has never been hit. While it is certainly bad by today's standards, it is certainly better than anything else in the series and many decks not included.
@rank10ygo7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I realize that, and this video is frankly more of a product of my slight incompetence with early handling of the channel due to a lack of research, and if it wasn't for the fact that Nordics had far less tops than Worms, I'd have retroactively eliminated them from the series as well.
@whiteamericanmale73927 жыл бұрын
RANK10YGO fuck you
@dr.dylansgame55836 жыл бұрын
@@whiteamericanmale7392 well jesus that was out of nowhere did someone piss in your card collection that morning or something
@valinorhero71283 жыл бұрын
Guldfaxe(Gold-facts), this is how I pronounce the name of this card
@marsproductions74845 жыл бұрын
The worst part about this arctype is it is overly dependent on the syncro Aesir but it’s hard to bring them out
@Blakewyattdunfee4 жыл бұрын
I love nordics because I'm a absolute nut for mythology.
@Torvar8 жыл бұрын
I got out of Yugioh in 2011, I have been watching videos recently and I don't like the speed of the current game.
@quinyc18 жыл бұрын
Same it's pretty crap because it's like if you don't do am xyz summon with 2 synchro summons and revive a lvl 7 monster from the graveyard it's a bad turn
@lelesra2568 жыл бұрын
I think so too, I used to play online from time to time and usually lost because my opponent summoned like 10 monsters with 3000 atk plus in one turn ouf of nowhere
@Rob_9918 жыл бұрын
true
@s.e.111films38 жыл бұрын
+Le Lesra There are only five monster zones, though...
@dukeofnuke24468 жыл бұрын
For em it si the magic of decks like dragunitys to make that combos to flash your enemie blow his deck off that is for me the magic of these decks
@2001coolchemist8 жыл бұрын
I used to run a Thorr synchro deck using horsy, black goat, and white goat, with support cards from elsewhere. Wasn't tier 1 obviously but was real fun.
@exe_8 жыл бұрын
do you know what would be fun? having a only legacy of worthless deck games with friends :3
@thecommonwealthsmistake-tc74758 жыл бұрын
i did that with my friend tristan, amazoness VS neos, i won because of swarming and amazoness tiger being a decent out to powerful normal summons
@tatermaniac93196 жыл бұрын
Viktor eXe *cough cough* war of the worthless *cough cough*
@christopherb5015 жыл бұрын
I _do_ wish that there was more of a point in establishing formats where the insane power creep and constant meta focus wasn't a necessity.
@ultraatari92985 жыл бұрын
I'd just tech my way around it with mirror forces
@Tfbrave6 жыл бұрын
And we're about the get legacy support for these guys in october, based on the description on ygorganization it will include a new lv10 synchro and a link monster that I quote "a new Link Monster makes it easier to assemble the Synchro Materials needed to Summon an “Aesir” monster" - sounds almost like a archetype exclusive needlefiber
@griffinforsgren77208 жыл бұрын
Yeah, with Fenrir and Jormungardr, you could just not be an idiot and use Lava Golem instead. Also, Gungnir basically Doom Lord's you, so...
@emmasofia36228 жыл бұрын
Or fuse them to summon Beast-Eyes Pendulum Dragon and inflict 4000 each time it destroys something by battle.
@gorvenger12413 жыл бұрын
Potential Surt,Doom of Aesir and each and every damn Ragnarok theme monster: Yeah,yeah,i'm going to hell
@wickederebus3 жыл бұрын
And the one guy who got killed by mistletoe can be a followup play for after the Raganrok portion of the archetype kills the entire field. Example play: Make the link, spit out an Aesir. Get beaten. Summon Surtr, Doom of the Aesir. Reverse nuke/Trish the opponent's hand, field, GY, and cards from the top of their deck equal to the number of Nordic and Aesir monsters banished from your hand, Field, and GY for Surtr's effect. Then Surtr searches you Nordic cards from your deck equal to the number of Aesir monsters banished by Surtr's effect. Assuming only 1 search, you get Baldur, who would basically have to give you another copy for the Link, spit out another Aesir, and let you use banished Nordics to synchro out as many Aesirs as you can make with your banished Nordic monsters.
@LicensedTaddus7 жыл бұрын
Don't they have like a golden apple trap card too?
@snugglehyena91717 жыл бұрын
LostEmperor that was not part of the archtype.
@sebastien5956 Жыл бұрын
the issue I'm seeing with the Nordics is that they focused on flavour without any way of making it work for the game. For example, Valkirie is based on the valkyries, obviously, and her thing is whisking the souls of fallen warriors and bringing them to Valhala, as a valkyrie does. Tangrisnir and Tangnostr are Thor's goats, their thing in the mythology is that Thor kills them every night to eat for supper and then he lays out their pelts and bones overnight and they're alive again, this would have been more effective mechanically if they had an effect to come back from the graveyard on each of your standby phases. Garmr is based on Hela's dog, who guards the underworld, so him sending monsters back to the hand could be a reference to them being rejected from the underworld (idk, I'm stretching on this one) for a way more flavourful and actually useful way of doing Mimir, who's severed head rests in the fountain of wisdom and knows everything, would be for hm to let you look at your opponent's hand.
@aguywithalotofopinions4126 жыл бұрын
And they’re getting more support soon
@NebulaPurple8 жыл бұрын
keep going, these videos are amazing
@TheoJay6158 жыл бұрын
I hope we see the ally of justice video soon
@GumshoeClassic3 жыл бұрын
I mainly wonder where Thors pants went. That speedo is Ojama-material, it looks so uncomfortable.
@juanvelardefernandez93398 жыл бұрын
to be fair with the perfomage engine I made an Odin deck and I could spam the field and get my lvl 10 syn monsters every turn
@freezewindow13 жыл бұрын
the fact that they gave a norse-mythology-themed archetype a support spell with a german name they just flat-out misspelled tells you everything you need to know about how much work they put into this lol
@justinanderson26318 жыл бұрын
My god! All the 5ds hate! Man that was my favorite yugioh... Also on tannjouster (I think that's his name) you can't XYZ with tokens. Or believe me Galaxy tomohawk would be OP lol
@dr.dylansgame55836 жыл бұрын
i mean its understandable alot of the decks/archtypes from 5ds were just terrible and outside of that the ones that werent due to all these new rules and effects the games cancer level went through the roof in a single era of the game at least with xyz pendulum and links they eased on the gas with synchros and other effects they just slammed on the gas strait slamming into the wall known as the meta completely obliterating it
@DerVasto6 жыл бұрын
@@dr.dylansgame5583 I'm still disappointed they didn't make "Earthbound Immortal" a proper archetype. Wouldn't it be cool to have black, symbol-bearing monsters that call for their "god", a huge, black silhouette with glowing symbols all over them. They could have given each Immortal a different support, like Nordics, but more coherent and with more generalized synergy, so that you can use "Ccu Cupankapu" (or something) cards partly with "Wresquicha Rasca"(probably wrong) cards as example.
@originalindigodingo6 ай бұрын
It says a lot that when they made an entire archetype about Norse runes, down to making Odins twin ravens one of the few monsters you use, they didnt even attempt to tie it to Nordics. We really had Norse Archetype and The Cooler Norse Archetype.
@LowTier4Life8 жыл бұрын
The deck is alot better than you give it credit for. It can easily make lvl 7, 8, 9 or 10 synchros and if played right can be very powerful. In all honesty all the deck needs is a draw card and another tuner for the beasts. And the nordic gods are not that hard to summon.
@keiferjanz31978 жыл бұрын
Be cool if they updated the deck to today standards as I really like the art work and especially Thor.
@herrdoktor18108 жыл бұрын
Making a lv 7/8/9/10 synchro while going minus is meaningless unless its something like that lv 8 clear wing dragon, which they certainly cant summon.
@fromtheh31588 жыл бұрын
LowTier4Life Odins effect used to be scary
@artificerprime41547 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by "if played right"? And powerful against what? Also, from what I can tell, they need way more than a draw card and another Beast Tuner if they ever hope to be able to mesh the three sub-archetypes together into something playable. A Beast version of Vanadis that doesn't require you to jump through a dozen hoops would be a start at least. Also, yes, the Aesir aren't too difficult, but as things stand, they're just not worth the trouble most of the time.
@chrisbuskirk50987 жыл бұрын
LowTier4Life i completely agree , i made a nordic deck and it is nearly unstoppable when pulled off , and i pull it off about 90% of the time
@tomspreadbury29153 жыл бұрын
It's such a shame the Aesir monsters were nerfed so hard In the anime they didnt need to banish tuners to be resurrected, they were resurrected without cost during every standby phase Their synchro summons/special summons (ie resurrecting themselves) could also not be negated and they could not be destroyed in the turn they were summoned by any card effect Also, their negate effects were quick effects, so yeah, not useful on your opponents turn but holy shit, 10x better than what Konami ended up printing Basically, they were also a massive pain in the ass to get rid of (they only had to be in the GY to resurrect, so Kaijus etc. would only be a temporary 1 turn fix as well) and could only be dealt with by enormous beaters or banish-based removal from a specific card type that each individual aesir was not immune to
@destrudothedeaddrakeofdrea59288 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the song in the background?
@JoshiroZ996 жыл бұрын
Legend says that when Rata speaks of an archetype, Konami decides to spite Rata's opinions.
@caswellweird8 жыл бұрын
Was hanging out with my friend the other day, he told me he found his old box of cards, so naturally I scavenged for any hidden gems when he said the thing was fair game. Found a lot Spiders. Spiders were a 5ds archetype, were they relevant at all?
@powertravelinc8 жыл бұрын
No
@Izaya-4728 жыл бұрын
They were one of the bad 5ds archetypes but are fun.
@awanderer71328 жыл бұрын
Tackson Caswell they were bad like Nordics
@graydanger8 жыл бұрын
Don't compare Nordic with spiders. At least they could do something
@awanderer71328 жыл бұрын
Felix Rojas V. yeah, Nordic's could explode in a wet noodle play without reliable recovery in case it gets repulsed whereas Spiders never explode a crippled arm vs no arm basically
@juliendarnell39875 жыл бұрын
That new Link saved the archetype in Legendary Hero's
@wolfiehatesgoogle4 жыл бұрын
yeah but if anything the deck is just incredibly mediocre
@Auron39918 жыл бұрын
Thor actually wrecks any of those obnoxious XYZs that save themselves or allied monsters from destruction. That's a nice Zenmaines you've got there, be a shame if its effect didn't work. Megingjord can be used for some insane burst damage. Odin hitting Stardust Dragon could result in over 5k damage. Gungnir is evasion, plain and simple. Dodge a Torrential Tribute, Mirror Force, or even Bottomless Trap Hole.
@awanderer71328 жыл бұрын
Auron3991 Thor then gets wrecked by Honor Ark, just like the rest of the Aesir Megingjord is deadweight outside that "specific situation" which you don't want for a competitive deck And Gungnir keeps your boss, who you just went -1 to summon, off the field for a whole turn Allowing your opponent a turn to setup more field presence to counter the boss when it returns Or straight up OTK you lmfao Nordics are trash, stop trying to put Ornaments on a landfill
@Auron39917 жыл бұрын
Funny, since I managed to face some pretty decent decks with them (including a few serious tournament decks). Markedly, I ran a chaos variant, so I had some weird card choices, but they managed to work quite well. That's the thing about this game, most decks have a build that at least functions even if it isn't the best. Heck, I saw a Dark Simorgh lockdown deck that did fairly well against competitive E-Hero.
@NebulousSpacePotato7 жыл бұрын
Freya, Lady of the Aesir 2 "Nordic" monsters, arrows pointing down left and down right You can only activate each of these effects once per turn. 1: Target one of your banished "Nordic" monsters, special summon it but shuffle it into the deck at the end phase of the turn it was special summoned. (Quick Effect) 2: Target one "Nordic" monster on the field, it's name becomes "Child of the Aesir" until it is removed from the field. 3: Shuffle 1 card from your hand into your deck to add 1 "Nordic" monster from your graveyard to your hand. Asgard, Realm of the Nordics Field Spell While this card is on the field: "Aesir" monsters you control cannot be targeted by card effects. Reduce the level of all "Alfar" monsters in your hand, field, and graveyard by one. "Nordic Beast" monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle. Once per turn you can discard one "Nordic Ascendant" monster from your hand to special summon another "Nordic" monster from your deck whose level is less than or equal to the discarded monster.
@Castlemoon_6 жыл бұрын
Mac Tonight I wish this was real😔
@ApolloXI697 жыл бұрын
I'm really disappointed that they didn't have a better Nordic theme. They could have had more Nordic gods, added freaking VIKINGS (like Ragnar Lodbrok and/or non-historical Vikings) and Viking berserkers, and other mythological figures like Sigurd (a human warrior that was a dragon slayer), and Valkyries; including Brunhilde who fell in love with Sigurd. There also isn't a magic card named Valhalla; it would have been perfect for special summoning Vikings from the deck and or graveyard. There are so many real life Nordic sagas that speak of warriors and myths, and that is another reason there was a lot of wasted potential with the Nordic theme. I don't know why Koonami threw away so many opportunities with this theme. They did a good job with the Samurai theme I thought, so maybe they just didn't have as much passion for western mythology and historical warriors (Vikings) since they are Japanese. I also don't like the design of the three Nordic gods that they did add. An example of that is Odin; he is associated with two crows and yet they aren't in his card's design or in any Nordic cards for that matter. What Nordic cards do exist have crappy effects. Also, feel free to make corrections to my post. I haven't kept up with Yugioh in a while, so I'm not 100% sure if they added any of the characters to the Nordic deck that I mentioned but I doubt they have since it is a fairly old deck by now.
@GatorRay6 жыл бұрын
+ApolloX1 You know what. If I were designing Valkyrie of the nordic ascendants I would honestly change her name to Brunhilde of the Nordic Ascendants & include Zigfried Von Schroeder from the original Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters series in the background for an easter egg.
@dr.dylansgame55836 жыл бұрын
as much as i hate to say it konami does this alot and sadly that shit wont change its the same reason alot of older cards were bad they have there head up there ass half the time and the other half is usually barely passable i mean hell its the same reason most archtypes up until now only run half there cards at most and then just splash in other cards from different sets and why certain archtype cards get abused in other decks that nobody would have even thought of normally
@xCorvus7x2 жыл бұрын
@@GatorRay Siegfried? Who was that again?
@kichiroumitsurugi43632 жыл бұрын
@@xCorvus7x Basically the antagonist of the last filler arc of DM, with his Deck being Valkyrie (based on the 'Der Ring des Nibelungen')
@xCorvus7x2 жыл бұрын
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 right, thx
@JusticesShadow8 жыл бұрын
Gotterdammerung is fun because the actual word isnt scandinavian, it's german and lacks an ä and an ö. Actually this word is called "Götterdämmerung" and basically means "Dawn of Gods"
@russianbot21798 жыл бұрын
Nordic Relic Gungir is actually really good. It's a 1 for 1 at worst and a plus 1 quite often. You chain it to save your monster from being removed by something wasting their removal, and then pop another of their cards.
@jarebear693 жыл бұрын
Fuck, this is going to be 5 years in about 2 weeks. I was in 9th grade when this came out. I feel so old.
@MrGshinobi8 жыл бұрын
Ally of justice next! if possible!
@christopherb5015 жыл бұрын
09:30 Still irks me that the Nordic Ascendant isn't considered a "Valkyrie" card now.
@Troopmcdoop8 жыл бұрын
I used to play nordics with tengu. They weren't too bad tbh
@Troopmcdoop8 жыл бұрын
combo is you can set the token goat then summon the special summoning goat. Summon vanadis dump another one to make an oden that can be summoned twice. Then you can make ancient sacred wyvern by changing the goat and win
@awanderer71328 жыл бұрын
Team Newgeneration Tengu was broken period, but it got hit by then ban hammer because *better decks* abused it to the limit
@ares60377 жыл бұрын
I love the Nordic archetypes.
@hellkaiser648 жыл бұрын
how about doing the cyber archetype?(except cyber dragons, because those are pretty cool) -cyberdark... -cyber tutu,skater,etc... -cyber ogre ,esper also any reptile deck or guardians or spirits...
@Kuribohdudalala8 жыл бұрын
Worms? Worms were pretty good
@hellkaiser648 жыл бұрын
noah solomon except those...
@Team4sr8 жыл бұрын
Spirits can be prty good
@misterbadguy73258 жыл бұрын
Cybers are a series, not an archetype. Cyberdarks are sort-of-but-not-really an archetype, since there's no cards in the game that say "one Cyberdark monster."
@KenLinx8 жыл бұрын
I wish they would give Nordics new support cards. I used to own a lot of expensive Nordic cards. They had amazing art and I was personally devastated the day I damaged my Ultimate rare Loki which I pulled from a pack.
@UltimateTomekHD7 жыл бұрын
12:48 Tyr is not "Tyr" 1 XD
@shis19882 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Rata will check Generaiders and Raiders, since they're basically Nordic cards, just actually good.
@themattcaptain21556 жыл бұрын
They have a link monster now......
@fluffyplayery30176 жыл бұрын
Wait they do
@ufukcangencoglu22796 жыл бұрын
We don't even know what the bloody thing even does so don't get hyped that much
@r3zaful6 жыл бұрын
Ufukcan Gencoglu now you can build Nordic thunder dragon Very inconsistent but very powerful
@theflyingdropbear20096 жыл бұрын
I would go with more monsters that help with swarming the field to make summoning the Aesir monster a lot easier, as well as being more versatile in helping with summoning The Aesirs regardless of build, also follow it up with having more synchro options, something the Aesirs seem to lack, by adding more synchro options, they would be opening up more plays for the Nordics/Aesir. for example, have a synchro monster that counts as 2 non-tuner materials to assist in the summon of Thor, Loki and/or Odin. as well as having effects that grant more protective abilities if they are used as synchro materials for either Loki, Thor and/or Odin Follow this up with a field card that gives the Nordics/Aesirs not only more protection, but also allows the controller to normal summon a second time in the process. A spell card that not only searches, but if you control an Aesir monster, you can place a tuner in the graveyard to allow the controller to banish the tuner of the respective Aesir to summon the Aesir again. Meanwhile there could be a trap that allows you to banish the required material from either the deck, field or graveyard to synchro summon an Aesir monster during your opponent's turn, but they must declare an attack, also the synchro summon cannot be negated, another trap card could return all banished Nordic tuner monsters to graveyard to allow for more re-usability of the Aesir monsters in the process, then they could follow it up with a counter trap card that would negate, the activation of a spell/trap/monster effect and destroy it, but you also need to control either an Aesir or Nordic monster to activate it. Overall there is potential, but Konami failed to give it the potential that it needed.
@malekiththewitchking27998 жыл бұрын
I topped a locals against Nekroz with Nordics -.-
@malekiththewitchking27998 жыл бұрын
I beat dragon rulers as roids Eli Reid
@malekiththewitchking27998 жыл бұрын
+Eli Reid I beat glad beasts with venominaga.
@malekiththewitchking27998 жыл бұрын
ivo Dave damn man thats hardcore
@apples66847 жыл бұрын
one time i beat blue-Eyes with Winged Kuriboh + HEROES
@THEGRUMPTRUCK6 жыл бұрын
I beat shooting quasar using normal Non-effect, no spell or trap cards, no monsters above level 4.
@desdinovaincarnate97037 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I saw a character in the anime use a Nordic Alfar deck and the monster that was on the field that let him trigger Ljosalfar's effect was Ljosalfar itself,and he used it's effect to summon the level 5 Tuner,I think.