Ranking All Races in Kenshi

[@dayafters1]

I would put Greenlanders in a higher tier for their ability to communicate with the major factions without angering them on sight with your mere existence.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Scorchlanders can do that too. For all the meming, the Okranites aren't (aggressively) white-supremacist.

[@cavemanbonk8320]

@@JoshSweetvale I've been stopped before as a scorchlander, but that character was also female, so idk which one might've caused it

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@cavemanbonk8320 The latter.

[@bombidil3]

@@cavemanbonk8320 It is illegal for women to be out at night in the Holy Nation.

[@Burger19985]

@@bombidil3 Existing is illegal in the holy nation

[@gd1476]

"Back in my days we didnt call em scorchlanders." - 👴🏻

[@JerryAss]

🤨

[@rokealva6660]

N

[@pattic2436]

OK grandpa back to the home

[@LordDoof]

I

[@derangedsockpuppet678]

GGA

[@logicalcommenter4137]

POV: you are a holy nation paladin sitting down to watch your favorite KZbinr

[@derangedsockpuppet678]

Underrated comment

[@supremegreaser2399]

Well I totally disagree with this tierlist, but that just goes to show how many ways kenshi can be played.

[@secretname2670]

The least racist Holy Sentinel :

[@alehanedilko2147]

He is just a hiver

[@MrDinokilla]

Oh I see So its fine when you do it. But when I do it, its all "Sir Please get out of Mcdonalds" "Sir You're under arrest"

[@KokoplaysMB]

It's how it is

[@hideshisface1886]

Couple of my points, from purely pragmatic point of view: - Soldier Drones are generally not great - 100 in all bodyparts, with head being 200 is excellent as far as hivers are concerned, BUT. 200 health is still not much when you can't compensate with armour, especially around turrets. And you still suffer from relying on hiver shirts, which do not cover arms in any way. AND soldier drones have no immunities to gas damage, which is a problem in some areas, as they can't weak headgear. - Hiver Princes - poor combatants, very good for stealth, very good for anything that requires you to use mental skills. Solid choice overall. - Worker drones - extremely poor in combat, even with armour, BUT for anything except combat and cooking. Overall, BEST workers you can get, because of their inherent speed. - Greenlanders - bland, but they get the job done - Scorchlanders - almost perfect, and basically OP as long as you don't rely on strength. Fantastic dex-weapon wielders and smiths. - Skeletons - overall very tough and very hard to kill. And very sutainable once you get access to repair bed. BUT lack of headgear and under-armour hurts them in a long run. Perfect turret guards though. - Now for my personla favourite - Shek - perhaps the best choice for long run or a main character. Good bonuses for combat, basically no armour restrictions and the only race that gives you health bonuses on every body part, including the head. This health pool works well in the long run with armour. The healing penalty is meaningless in the end - it is percentile based, so Shek heal the same amount of health per second as humans do, actually. Hunger penalty is meaningless as well in a long run and speed can be dealt with by using good set of bionic legs.

[@a.N.....]

Not starving to death or burning through your supplies shouldn't be overlooked its certainly not meaningless

[@hideshisface1886]

@@a.N..... Early game, perhaps, but I was talking about the long run. Later on, when you have easy access to stuff like food cubes, gohan or whatever other higher tier food you can get, this is hardly an issue with Shek. The thing is - certain advantages of various races help you only in early game, realistically speaking, but over time, certain disadvantages stay forever and can't be effectively mitigated. Yes, 200 head health of a soldier drone is amazing when you can't really get any good armour, and most you are fighting against are starving bandits and an occasional bonedog. But when you start tackling bigger threats or when your barely trained turret guard almost shoots your head off every 5 minutes, while the other character with the helmet shrugs it off... Yeah.

[@maycontainnuts3127]

a shek will eat through all your rations quicker than you realise, you'll need a pack beast specifically for the purpose of carrying extra food, and even then that pack beast will be eating most of it. take a shek if you dont value money or food.

[@hideshisface1886]

@@maycontainnuts3127 I personally never had this problem, unless I was trying to run a full base of Shek, but you hardly ever need that many. Usually something like 2 large farms with hiver workers are enough to sustain a decently-sized outpost - especially if those are greenfruit and rice, so you can make gohan.

[@captainmurphy4948]

Eh not a fan of Shek for main character. No environmental resistances and slow as in the beginning, hell you can barely outrun a skimmer. The extra health doesn't matter when you can't take a hit worth a damn. As the beginning can be more dangerous than mid or end game (mid game I classify as tech hunting/base building and end game is hunting down the big game like buggy or catty, nuking everyone's favourite religious zealots and noble a-holes in the process). Personally I usually take a greenlander, good for RP and just painfully average, and if I feel cheesy a skelly, sure they're probably even slower than Sheks but full immunity to weather effect and repair kits work stupidly fast. Add in a couple of ancient books/engi plans from stores and safe looting spots and I have my own bed, so easy it's boring. Sure I'm happy to have Sheks but for starters I prefer the boring old humans. Really disagree with his tier though. I despise hive soldiers, imo they're the worst hiver type. No bonus of any significance and basically just an inferior human, compared to workers and princes which can be great base dwellers/thieves/archers/scouts. So Personally, S+ tier for the P4 skellies, S tier skellies, A tier Shek, B tier humans and hive princes/workers (workers more B-, scorchlander B+ though), C tier hive soldiers.

[@JoshSweetvale]

P4 Units are frail for Skeletons, but make excellent, unyielding smiths. They're ridonculously rare, though I got one by grabbing a randomly generated P4 wanderer and chucking the dude in front of a slaver plantation and then buying him immedeately. He's been churning out blades non-stop, I've got more Edge-2 weapons than I need.

[@theloneronin526]

Great video. Now make a tier list of all races IRL

[@JoshSweetvale]

They're not different species. Unless you mean Neanderthals and Australopithecus and Heidelbergensis

[@KokoplaysMB]

I'm sure KZbin would love that one

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@KokoplaysMB It'd be a hell of a clickbait, and give you an excuse to read up on "list of cool facts about anthropology" while discussing all the different hominids. I'd never do it but I'm risk-averse and worse at trolling than you.

[@deputyhobbs9683]

​@@JoshSweetvaleeven if the races aren't different species they all have genetic traits that set them apart, like those of asian descent being shorter and those of african descent having a natural resistance to the sun. You could in theory put together a tier list, but in practice it would come off so bad 😂

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@deputyhobbs9683 Fun fact: There's a bigger genetic difference between any two foxes or gorillas or snakes... than humans on opposite sides of the planet. Humans went through a population bottleneck between inventing fire and the wheel, where there were only a couple thousand humans alive. Our genetic differences are tiny, and the slightest random mutation makes far more of a difference than 'race' - family lineage. TLDR: We ain't dogs.

[@rrron]

But Greenlanders have 46 hairstyles

[@KokoplaysMB]

You're correct, that makes them A tier at least

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

Sadly they all look stupid 😔

[@Mortyrian]

And they all suck

[@franciscogarciadamiani979]

@@Mortyrian they only got advantages, no debuffs, and can be anywhere and not be attacked on racial basis, they most certainly dont suck

[@Mortyrian]

@@franciscogarciadamiani979 I was specifically talking about the hair styles, it's just a hot take, not a serious opinion

[@dooggo-1402]

The Advantage of a Skeleton, is that they are absolute tanks. They may not have natural talents for weapons, but they can make for natural tanks, and as per result, you can essentially put a Newbie Skeleton (Though from my experience, this was Agnu) in heavy armor and give them a defensive weapon and tell them to block, and through just how long they are able to survive, they will be able to tank and absorb hits, and raise their Melee Defense Skill from 12 to literally 66, all in a while, being one of my newest recruit, yet they somehow already have attained a toughness rating of 35 With this, since they are also taking a lot more hits compared to Organic Creatures, they'll also build Toughness a lot more faster. Even on my current Playthrough Save where I have a Martial Artist Hiver Soldier and Martial Artist Skeleton who have been present at the beginning of my playthrough, the Hiver Soldier is falling back in terms of a lot of things, retaining only 40 Toughness and 30 Dodge, while the Skeleton has about 60 Toughness and 52 Dodge

[@Pwnicus187]

Skeletons don't take half an in game day to heal up from critical injuries. Less time in bed means more time getting beat up, which equals faster toughness gains.

[@BobMcBobJr]

Sooooo, while skeletons can repair and reboot quickly, they can't take as much damage overall in the late game as a fully armored (quality matters) human let alone a shek. The lack of head armor is the key missing component and 200 HP does not cover the difference. Now, early game, before you have good armor, they are easily the best fighters and they also, as you said, are the easiest to level but, also in the early game, they can be difficult to afford without stealing repair kits. They are also risky to use as martial artists because they can't wear the leather turtleneck and a helmet which provide very meaningful protection to lightly armored character. The best armor for them is probably the dustcoat as it gives them some head protection and they are MOST LIKELY to be downed by damage to the head. XP bonuses obviously don't matter in the early game as early is before you've gained a lot of levels nor do they matter in the late game where everyone is high leveled but they are important in the mid game where you are still leveling. So... Skeletons Early Game Best fighters, no food but expensive to repair, best workers due to the lack of food. Mid Game Mediocre fighters for their level but also likely your highest leveled characters Late Game The most aggressive fighters, as martial artists (skeleton bonuses to unarmed and synergy with armor restrictions), but very squishy. Not good in heavy armor compared to other races.

[@sunboltgift711]

From my experience with Kenshi all race bonuses are pointless other then what they can or cannot wear, as with enough time, effort, care, everyone can become a beefy destroyer of worlds, some will just have a tough time at it then others, A few years ago I created a utopia in Kenshi which had all the races, it went something like this, Ashlanders were my scouts and Ninja, they were the shadow warriors of my Empire and my eyes in far away lands, the Greenlanders were the leaders, spiritual leaders, the brains of my Empire, the Shek were the warriors, they were my heavy hitters that would go full nelson on enemy forces and never let me down when I needed things dead on a massive scale, the hivers were my traders, they knew how to swindle anything and make a cat out of it even worthless lanterns of radiance for the better of my Empire, I had a Queen stay safe and secure in my capitol city and was even a part of the leading council as a voice for the Hivers in my Empire, the Hive Prince would lead my trade caravans speaking to possible buyers of my items, while the Hive warriors were of course guards for these caravans the workers would just litter my empire and fill in when I needed a replacement for any task, they would also have a high priority on wounded to heal or repair, Beep was however the exception as he was considered a prince then eventually made a Pseudo Queen in my Empire, the skeletons were my industrialized work force, the bread and butter of what made everything come together into something others could enjoy, they could farm 24/7, mine 24/7, cook, build, make items to sell, craft the armor and weapons that my Empires soldiers needed and all for nothing, no food, no rest, just put them to work and forget about them, the perfect work force that never needed a break or time off, the Cannibals were made into a shock troop force that if certain neighbors got too brazen or the United Cities wanted to extort my Empires cats for itself in the form of taxes they would eat the tax man and made sure the United Cities watched as it was done, when I wanted entire towns wiped off the map I'd have my legions of Shek Ironclads lead by the Great and Mighty Thunder Thighs herself, along with a large group of Cannibal Ravagers whos hunger could never be sated, one to kill in war the other to make sure nothing remains but bones that were picked clean, the Fishmen were the only ones that I just left alone because the zones they inhabited were pointless to conquer and they didn't send parties to my cities in the Desert, all were equal in my Empire and it was good. but as I said earlier all races have a place and can accomplish anything with enough time and effort, this was just one of many ways I have enjoyed Kenshi and wanted to share it here.

[@timothypodmore2973]

What does the greenlanders do like that means something

[@sunboltgift711]

@@timothypodmore2973They would spread my Empire's beliefs across the Kenshi Wasteland, gather like minded individuals to fill it's ranks by recruiting them, fill in for any of the other races if I needed a spot filled, they were my Jacks of all trades and the brains behind my Empire, they were the builders and the scientists, while the labor requirement was done by the skeletons under them. Not sure what you mean or are trying to play at by saying that means something, it was my Kenshi Empire and it doesn't have to mean anything to anybody for any reason other than that I had a really fun time playing the game even though it was many years ago. I tend to just play loners or small groups now as an Empire playthrough gets crazy in the micromanaging department when it starts spreading to lots of the continents, plus the load times can get crazy, much simpler with just a loaner or small group around 5 to 30.

[@Michael-bn1oi]

@@sunboltgift711 Scorchlander can also move freely within the Empire.

[@themeerkat5157]

i mean, it's not like other races need to rest in kenshi so there was no need to make only the skeletons workers

[@sunboltgift711]

@@themeerkat5157 It was role play. If it were real, the skeletons wouldn't need to rest nor eat. If they were human workers, they would need time off, food, time for their family etc. Besides, what do you care? I was just explaining how one time out of the many hours, and new stories, I have started Kenshi, how it went down. I've even played cannibal tribes or fish people, a hiver drone who became a queen, many different and various stories I have come up with and enjoyed thanks to Kenshi's true freedom and replayability, unlike most games. If you want your skeletons to have time off during your game play, that's entirely up to you. Kenshi is a game where you're only limited by your own imagination. And I've had a lot of fun in it. It's still one of my favorite Games when I've got nothing better to do and will be to the end of my days.

[@beanywalrus00]

Shek are better than hive soldier drones. 125 health in every limb is better than 100 health in every limb. 200 head health doesn’t really make a difference, they’re just squishier skeletons. Also really? Skeletons WORSE than scorchlanders? My man… Skeletons are hard S tier. They’re the superior race

[@SortableCrayon3]

Late reply but: Skeletons are worse than Scorchlanders due to their inability to equip a lot of armor pieces. I'm not sure at what stage of the game he is rating, but Skeletons are worse early than Hive Soldier drones due to healing being super hard to come by for skeletons early game. Skeletons are insane midgame, and end up being better soldier drones at every point after that. here's my race tier list (overall): S tier- Shek (only for late) Hive Worker (not for combat) A tier- Scorchlander (for any stage) Hive Soldier (only for early) B tier- Greenlander (basically just worse scorchlander, due to dexterity being infinitely harder to train than strength) C tier- Skeleton (insanely strong midgame, but bad early and also bad late compared to other races) D tier- Hive Prince (has similar penalties to hive worker but not enough upsides) I should note that I haven't used ranged ever, that probably has a large influence on some of these rankings. I am also not factoring in turrets because I'm not even sure how I would do that

[@vasianduban9995]

@@SortableCrayon3 bro you can literally carry as solo Skelton the whole game Who cares about extra armor when you can literally in mid fight repair yourself from -17hp back to something like 170 it’s just insane , as any other race you would spent whole day laying in bed for hp regen and you can repair multiple times over and over

[@robotrooster5500]

​@@SortableCrayon3 tf, dude, skeletons are like the easy mode of kenshi, nothing can eat them and if You have toughness high enough You can do what the frik You want because You won't die and the repair stuff is just so op

[@sneakysnickersnoopy]

Ppl really be sleeping on skellys. I buy em whenever I see a recruit

[@OxllSunslayer]

Worst part of the hiver is having one get one shot by friendly fire from your harpoon! With over 50 precision fire on most of my guys, sometimes I think my harpoon operators do it for fun.

[@hideshisface1886]

Make sure they wear gear with bonus to crossbows - the game does not tell you that, but bonuses and penalties to crossbow also affect precision firing, turrets included - this bonus displays only when they are firing at the time, so it is easy to miss.

[@goergebobicles1351]

The 2 things I learned about crossbows and turrets in Kenshi on day one is as follows: 1. Don't put people you don't want bleeding out in the line of fire. 2. Use of the pause button and micromanaging let's you position your melee and ranged characters so they both hit the enemy without hitting eachother rendering training precision shooting defunct.

[@KeeganAWhite]

Thank goodness you added "in Kenshi" to the title!

[@darkranger116]

I would highly recommend the Beetle Hive mod for anyone who wants different Hiver species. They're really cool

[@ClamMan1989]

I got that. Where do I find their hive? There's a beetle guard near my house in World's End - I'd quite like to kidnap and recruit him but I'm not sure if I can do it.

[@equasian2702]

We love our Hivers.

[@KokoplaysMB]

Yes

[@uncorr6982]

You've mentioned P4 skeletons as a one race, but there are actually 2 models of them: P4(rarely recruitable) and P4MKII(unrecruitable; their body looks frailier; example - Cat-Lon). And there are also MKII versions of Soldierbots.

[@Charlamanga]

Depends on their prosthetics imo, hivers are almost destined to loose a limb or two. Which is kind of a selling point 😜

[@lebruhjames9007]

@@Charlamanga yeah a hiver with the highest tier of leg prosthetics and a high athleticism no one is catching that 💀

[@idkidk2459]

Do this tier list for IRL races :D

[@bobbyt9431]

Skeletons > all. They require no food, are not food, and I spend less time blankly staring at a screen as weak flesh beings heal up.

[@ethernet764]

*S* 04:52 Southern Hive Soldier 02:16 Western Hive Soldier *A* 01:10 Western Hive Princes 09:49 Shek 13:55 Skeleton Log-Head 15:36 Screamer 06:41 Deadhive Soldier *B* 08:55 Scorchlander 12:57 P4 Skeleton 11:40 Skeleton 03:57 Southern Hive Prince *C* 11:01 Cannibals 07:57 Greenlander 14:42 Thralls 05:54 Deadhive Prince 03:18 Western Hive Workers 16:24 Fishman 05:32 Southern Hive Workers *F* 07:33 Deadhive Worker

[@TheMightyNaryar]

I think you missed a lot of things on the skeletons. For me they're easily S tier, even maybe S+ tier. Consider the pros: -immune to every single environmental damage type -almost no bleed rate, rarely bleeds to death, and twice the healing rate of more normal races : as a result the race almost never dies -can't be eaten by all the various wildlife (and there's no bandit type that, idk, scavenges your Skeletons for parts) -2 times normal limb health -will never need food -you can repair cut damage extremely fast on the field with Robotics unlike the fleshy races, you don't need long periods of bed rest and you can get a wounded Skeleton battle-ready much faster than the other races -extra lore tidbits from having a skeleton in your party -who doesn't like robots ? against the cons : -Holy Nation murders you on sight (i mean, 75% of the other races get enslaved on sight, so that's less bad) -dodge penalty -Misses a few equipment slots (which is less bad because they're got environment immunity) -uses slightly more expensive and slightly rarer healing items that only work on their race (not much) -slightly slower than most of the other races Why, yes, I'd take almost being invulnerable for those cons. Which is too bad because I like the race, but as it is they're OP. Mechanically, there's really no reason to pick any other race than Skeleton. Yeah, Shek might be a better fighter in the lategame. But Skeletons have a far better chance to reach it alive. Obviously, if you want a playthrough where you are friendly with the Holy Nation, you're going to ban skeletons. I agree that Hiver Soldiers are a really cool race but I think they're a little weak, really, because their missing equipment slots are not, in fact, worth their bonuses. I feel that Hiver Workers are in fact pretty great, but mostly at kiting with crossbows and general work inside your base - they're not made for melee combat, after all, unless you're badly outnumbering your opponent.

[@tylerbryanhead]

Hive Drones may not be your ideal Expeditionary party leader, but you need something done at the base they are awesome. I started a new Kenshi run, all hiver, and I maxed the Soldier Drones heights, mad the princes fairly tall, and made drones tiny. Cute lil fellas are buzzing around my settlement farming. Gonna eventually move to the swamp when my guys are trained enough, probably make a robotic limb factory/sake still/hash farm(maybe, kinda op though). Basically become my own hive. Kidnapping new members from other hives. The princes with their sneaky skills are in charge of procurement of new hivers and the soldiers will carry them back.

[@Godrickdaddy420]

Cant wait for you to rank irl races too!

[@Rathzul]

I think hive worker drones should be s tier, no warriors, yes, but good for working, and beep is one aswell, so Easy S tier. Edit: what about the king and alpha fishmen races?

[@KonaFanatiker]

Beep is obviously a different breed ;) But givien that hive worker / soldier drones can subside on foul meat, they are great for running a base in vain, gut, or the desert regions in general. Heck even the swamps with all those swamp raptors. I like my Hive worker drones.

[@Rathzul]

@@KonaFanatiker And hiver worker drones also look cute, I mean, have you seen the lost drone? such a cutie 🥰

[@KonaFanatiker]

@@Rathzul They are indeed adorable ! Always have to hold back when I make recruitment runs through the slaver camps in UC to not buy / free / abduct all of them at the start XD

[@captainmurphy4948]

@@Rathzul Ahhh the lost drones. If I could I'd just have a base full of them, the little buggers so rarely talk to me though and it feels kinda suss having to knock them out and dump them into a slave shop to have a chance of getting them on my team. Even with the recruit prisoners mod I still have to knock them out and lock them up first.

[@Rathzul]

@@captainmurphy4948 I believe you just need a hive drone to talk to them, for example, beep.

[@johemahque6396]

The note on the Soldier Hiver gives you a like and a new sub 🤝🤝

[@KokoplaysMB]

Awww yissss!

[@cosmosyn2514]

Southern and Western Hive drones have the first and second highest base movement speed in the game respectively, and boosts to athletics and dexterity, so they can make good crossbowmen to kite with.

[@themeerkat5157]

southern hive drones are faster than their western counterparts? i didn't know this

[@boss-li9ly]

Shek are much, much better than soldier drones. Solider drones may bleed slower but they have less total blood. Bleeding is not a problem in the game if you have at least some armor. They have high hp on head but can't wear helmets. If you take 50 cut and 50 blunt damage to the head soldier takes 100 damage but if you have masterwork crab helmet you take 21 blunt + 7.5 cut = 28.5 damage, in this situation the Shek will have about 450 effective HP on their head. They can't wear shoes and also their best shirt is worse than the best human shirt.

[@БелыйВолк-с4б]

правильно

[@TheInfurnos]

Your damage calculations did not factor toughness , a 50 cut to head will do like 35 to a hiver , 5 to armour target with say 70+ toughness. A full leviathan hits beakers for about 200 , hits my shek for about 20.

[@boss-li9ly]

@@TheInfurnos good point

[@deputyhobbs9683]

Bleeding also doesn't really matter with crab or samurai armor on when your shek has 130+ blood due to ridiculous strength. But hive soldiers are just so cute though 🥺🥺

[@robdabanks]

See now, I agree with the Soldier Hivers for personal preference... but I also suspect you're a clever KZbinr and knew you'd stir up some comments by putting them that high on the list lol. Whatever the case, this was fun :)

[@devetuncayy]

This guy is certified race ist.

[@lordjustinian2913]

I would rate Skeletons higher because they can survive any weather conditions without taking any damage, want to swim in acid, Skeleton, want to not take any damage from the lasers in Venge, Skeleton, want to not have any negatives in a dust storm(Skeleton) and also want to build a base where everything is dangerous and if someone tries to attack you they will have to deal with the elements and you don't need food so you can build a base in the Deadlands because you don't have to grow anything(Skeleton). Also Skeletons make the best martial artists because they do cutting damage with their fists, so as martial artists you can cripple any limb of your opponents.

[@H.HGWorms]

We know the best race for kenshi is suffering as for the best race I love the mechanical hive

[@Sworddeath727]

Most of my fighters are on the same skill level and due to a lack of helmets even the hiver drones stay up longer than the hiver soldier, somehow every enemy I fight hits them in the head and only in the head and they take a couple100 damage hits and they go down first in every fight, due to the reduced food requirements I would say running a bunch of hive soldiers is just running an army on a budget but ultimately they never do me any favors. Currently while everyone is wearing heavy armor the shek seem to be the ones still standing longer into a big fight, Dispite there large dietary requirements I think they belong in S tier instead as they also are pretty cool with the bones and such.

[@11Yaten]

I play heavily modded kenshi and weirdly enough the ones still standing after a big fight alongside op juggernauts are scorchlanders with dex weapons

[@captainmurphy4948]

Yep the lack of headgear and only being resistant to acid are the major no-sells with the hive soldiers. Having to take the full -10 penalty to combat skills while everyone else is unimpeded during dust storms and no way to protect them from poison gas is bad. Add in their penalties to non-combat activities and the fact that with good headgear every other race/subrace becomes more durable to head damage than them and they're just horrible. If it wasn't for Ray no hive soldier would exist in my teams.

[@11Yaten]

@@captainmurphy4948 The most important thing is how cool ur pawns look tho. I don't spend hours in character creation to wear a fucking helmet

[@themeerkat5157]

when raking the hive worker drones you forgot to take into account the bonuses they actually do have, hive worker drones are easily the best workers in the whole game

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

Gotta love how Greenlanders lore wise are supposed to notably be warriors but have no bonuses to help with that XD

[@lanboom9957]

0:16 "all of the racists"😅

[@iagohauchi3694]

I would put skeletons in a higher tier. The ability to repair body parts and not eating make them great for long travel. It hurts a lot to wait for that -40HP chest to heal when you are far from friendly cities. I know I'm still a noob, but for beginners it seems to be a high tier race. Repairing cut a lot of healing/Coma recovery time and not eating save inventory space (I don't like to play with more than 10 people in a crew).

[@Pwnicus187]

Faster natural healing leads to faster toughness gains if you fight a lot. For what it's worth in my 1.6k hours I've reached the same conclusion. As others have said, all the Kenshi races can fill any role at high stats. Some just have a tougher time of it.

[@PP-ok2xt]

Skeletons are also the slowest of all the races. They're very Tammy but until you replace their legs with scout limbs you'll be pulled in more fights than you were before having some (unless you cheese tin away)

[@joerenaud514]

I agree on the western hive soldiers , I usually just have them do labor jobs and have them on the frontline of fights for their hit points and all the combat buffs.

[@RightfootWestHam]

Well above 1000 hours in the game. 1. Skeletons 2. Sheks 3. Humans 4. Hivers

[@KokoplaysMB]

Well above 2000 hours in the game: Hivers still the best.

[@RightfootWestHam]

@@KokoplaysMB And why is that? I agree that hivers are probably the most fun to play with, but it looks like all data says they are the weakest. Thanks for these lists btw.

[@rpscorp9457]

@@RightfootWestHam Hive Praetorian and Heavy Black Carapace armor + Crescent Glaive

[@RightfootWestHam]

@@rpscorp9457 Hello. I dont know what a "Hive Praetorian" is. I know Hive Worker drone Hive soldier drone Hive Prince Hive queen. There is no "Black Carapace" in the game nor is there a "Crescent Glaive" Could it be that you are playing the game modded? Either way, Hivers are still the weakest race when it comes to pure stats.

[@danshakuimo]

@@RightfootWestHam All that stuff is modded

[@planetfall5056]

Hive workers FTW. Love the cute little green bois. They need half the amount of food, can eat anything, and are perfect laborers. Sure they die if someone even looks at them but if they are inside a good base it doesn't matter, and even if the base falls they are so fast they can out run almost everything with just some baseline athletics training. They make for great hit and run crossbowmen too for that reason. Strap some scout legs on them and you got your self a perfect drug runner. Watching Beakthings eat your little guy's dust (not organs) is hilarious. Also, they can escape into any pools of liquid, acid included, if things get really sketchy. Though that can be a downside as a go to way to add bionic legs is to take of shoes in the deadlands. But there are mods that add grinders that don't hurt (Its just a normal grinder, but the forced dialogue is occupant being excited about bionics not screaming in agony.) so Its not that much of an issue outside of vanilla. Big downside is the shirt and hat restrictions though. But if they are farmers and rangers then straw hats work fine. Solder drones not being able to where anything on their head is just a deal breaker for me tho. Frontline solder with no helmet is silly and it severely limits the amount of dress up i can play with my digital dolls! Making cool outfits its a quarter of the fun of Kenshi for me. Other quarter is learning about the story/worldbuilding through exploration, and the rest being base building (Dollhouse). Also they kinda remind me of Kerbals. :)

[@palehunter6711]

Rank the Cities Next! I'd love to hear your opinion on that because I ended up mostly agreeing with you on the races (Including that the soldier drones are best)

[@KokoplaysMB]

That could be interesting.

[@genildomiranda1690]

Is this a meme? This feels like a meme

[@Big_dawg_Kev]

Idk bro that’s what I was wondering

[@tootiredforthis1]

When i saw the thumbnail i thought it was a funny joke that hive soldiers were S. He must think "coolness factor" is worth more than... well.. everything else? If it weren't for Ray I wouldn't have a single hiver soldier on my team. They do have the most powerful eye height slider in the game though lol

[@crimsonchaos7635]

Scorchlanders are gangster s tier instantly

[@CondemnedInformer]

Soldier drone getting their due love.

[@RetuyNation]

I really love knocking out those duck heads without helmets. Ass tier keklul. Shreks for all melee weapons. All equipment slots are available, excellent basic body durability, bonus to the only useful skill - toughness. In fact, if after 20-30 hours of play you have a shrek with 89 agility and 90 athletics against any race with a bonus to agility and athletics, then the difference will be no more than 2-3 units, which does not matter at all. At the same time it's easier than other skills to pump toughness to extreme high values. 100 toughness = 71% damage resist (you will take only 29% damage), 90 toughness = 61% damage resist ( you will take only 39%) the effectiveness of mechanics grows at an unprecedented progression after 90 toughness. And at the same time, all equipment slots are available to us, yes! The only real minus of shreks is the rate of hunger and as a result - a couple of extra pounds of food in the inventory. Also the rate of deterioration of wounds overlaps by high toughness. Skeletons for martial arts. All non skeletons races do only 60% of damage to all the robots. Even all 4 possible equipped prostheses do not correct this situation. This is a clear bug, thanks to which skeletons can at least somehow compete with organic races in the narrow sense. Potentially huge amount of dynamic health sounds good, but in reality without chainmail and a helmet, it can be very painful. And the martial arts skill itself looks cool only in absolutely vanilla kenshi. I'm not talking about global mods with "balancing" animation and formulas and constants, but the standard extension to the number of simultaneously attacking targets from 1 to 3-5 is now used by almost everyone. And when the opponents do not wait for their turn to attack, but attack at once in 3-5 people and you wear light armor and without chain mail, it hurts. And animals don't eat them, that's all. Crossbow = any Farming simulator = skeletons don't eat. Scorchlander good with bonus for blacksmithing armor. Crafting critical success value unlocked at 80,000(1)%. Because of the bonus, Scorchlander will be a little higher skilled than no bonus armor smith. 90 armor smith vs 88 armor smith. 10% to get Masterwork (~10 items for 100 iterations) vs 8% to get Masterwork ( ~8 items for 100 iterations) i.e. 20% more things. Everything else is for the canonical role-playing invented personally for youself

[@curtiswilliams4166]

Skeleton is in my S tier

[@Voytek1985]

Scorchlanders are my overall best, with Hive Prince second. But I'm not a combat heavy player. I tend to run fast, explore, steal/assasinate/kidnap and builld/craft/farm. Sheks are most useless for me. If I want to fight I go kidnap No-Face to make Beak Things my alies, then just pick them up and make them to fight for me.

[@deputyhobbs9683]

Beep and Espher are the only worker drones I've ever trained to fight. Hive workers are so weak but Beep is just too special fighting with Agnu and Espher is just cool because he's the only guaranteed southern hive.

[@dambrony810]

Fishmen actually do great in swimming and dont need the robotics limbs. These guys are my cleanup crew in my water turret area. And if I need to visit the armor king, or need to transpo someone to a remote location surrounded by water, this guy is my guy. Their high limb health also makes em a good base defender. But I can just get a shek and do X4 speed anyway on swimming, so I dont make it a habit to recruit fishmen

[@Marzipian28]

Hiver prince has 80 hitpoints while the worker has 125

[@robertwildschwein7207]

The problem with coolness is, thatit is highly subjective. Scrawny Canibal and Alpha Fishman are seperate races from their normal version I think.

[@PP-ok2xt]

Can't believe you didn't mention how much easier hivers are to feed. They require less food and all of them except the princes can eat everything including foul meat. The hive workers are lower upkeep as base workers than any other race except for skeletons. I *love* hivers for my base, but they are very squishy

[@KokoplaysMB]

I never considered food to be something that's difficult to acquire at any point of the game.

[@TurKlack]

What I hope for Kenshi 2 is that Hivers become more unique, meaning: Please Chris, give them 6 Limbs; 2 Arms and 4 Legs. Hivers have no feet, so I always assumed Chris intended them to have 4 Legs.

[@KokoplaysMB]

But what would be the lore reason they lost two legs over the 1000 years from Kenshi 2 to Kenshi?

[@TurKlack]

Lore? There's no lore reason. They have always had 4 legs but because of development issues they only have 2. Tada. Problem solved.@@KokoplaysMB

[@floridafire7]

competitive racism is real

[@whytry4682]

I always go for the weakest races or something in these types of games because who doesn't like an underdog story?

[@ŁightŠwornKing]

Ok I need help completely irrelevant to the video but I'm playing the game right now and was going great I turned on one different mod and it screwed me so I turned it off now I can't seem to get my characters arms to appear but when I take of my pants they reappear does anyone know a fix to this I'm so lost right now I can't figure out what to do

[@jakubkonecny7369]

Hive soldier is trap. 200hp head sound nice, but without helm you hit the ground in few sec in most fights. Hive drones are better. Give them masterwork fog mask and your head will be 2x tough then soldiers. Yeah, little more fragile legs, but we live in golden era of prosthetic. We have artificial legs, hands, but sadly no heads. Whats more drones are second best labourers.

[@deputyhobbs9683]

I'd wager for a samurai helmet on a drone over a fog mask for 100% protection instead of 70% also worker drones have other vitals with only 75 health. Of course they can fight but I'd want a soldier drone on the field over a worker. Beep is the only exception.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

The Cannonballs......was what I thought he was saying for CANNIBALS.

[@KokoplaysMB]

I'd never say such a thing smh my head

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

@@KokoplaysMB Your accent made it sound like "Cannonballs", that's all. I thought it was funny because that's what I first thought it was.

[@anarcomanbr]

Hey dude! Do this about the armors, I like your analysis.

[@KokoplaysMB]

That's the plan!

[@themeerkat5157]

how are hive workers only C tier? they are easily A tier for me while they are the worst for combat, they are definitely the best for production not only do they level up production related skills faster, they also move faster (which overall increases production aswell in jobs where you have to move stuff from the producer to the storage), and their biggest plus IMO is that they eat way less, they starve at half the rate of human characters and they can eat fowl meat, which is for the most part seen as trash so not only do they work really well they are also extremely easy to maintain and how are hive soldiers S tier by the way? they literally cannot wear helmets or shoes, that itself already makes them worse at combat than greenlanders (since greenlanders can wear helmets and they can't). with a masterwork helmet a shek can tank way more blows to the head than they can, and not being able to wear footwear makes their legs particularly vulnerable and they also pass on bonuses related to shoes shek will overpower hive soldier drones the whole game, they are defo the best race for combat considering they can wear all armor and have 125 hitpoints on all limbs so here's my layout for lategame: shek for warriors, hive drones for workers, and hive princes for rangers and thieves (hive princes get a bonus to range related skills xp gain rate and are faster, thus making them the best rangers, even though hive workers are also pretty good rangers because of their high speed they have 5 less hit points than princes and dont get the xp bonuses)

[@Charlamanga]

I would of also calculated the hunger rate, otherwise great list mate

[@KokoplaysMB]

Good point, although I don't think it would affect the rankings too much.

[@Charlamanga]

@@KokoplaysMB true, just good to know for newer players that those shek girls are hungry 😜

[@ilgiallo0]

I know i got late for the party , but i just discover the crater and the not stop spawn of beak things was atrocious, my party killed probabily more than an hundred , while keep moving , incredibile micro play , and i took refuge in the lab tower , while the beak things killed eachother withthe mechanical spider i was able to off both paarties by removing stuff when they falled on the ground . I have 3 warrior 2 fighters and 1 ranger/stealth plus some animals at the moment , i found so hard to micro the ranger . The things is. Hives soldiers are so fast that they can outrun even beakthings , they are very strong

[@asdnetwork4268]

"THAT'S RACIST!"

[@KonaFanatiker]

Technically...most bonuses to stats are multipliers for xp-gain. Considering the starting stats at which you would recruit southern hiver drones in vanilla compared to western hive drones, they kind of already got significantly more value as they have reached mid to high stats. In addition, the difference in trainingspeed is not even that significant with the bonuses or maluses. So you can train up everyone to reasonably high stats irregardless of bonuses or penalites. Sucks a bit on the one hand, as everyone can be everything, but the flavour is still there in a way. Anyways, in my opinion statbonuses and penalties are very irrelevant to me so if I was to rate western vs southern hive based on combatstats and how fast they can get them, southern hive wins all the time as they start with higher stats already. All in all I do like most races, but I severely limit myself on skeletons as I slightly dislike the lack of speed without limb replacements. So for me they are all S-Tier, except for Skeletons in 'S-' and Fogmen + Fishpeople in F-Tier (Feels off to have them in my party and fishmen are atrociously slow). I'd consider upping HP of bodyparts for foggies, but then I remind myself that I like Mongrel to survive XD

[@mynamemyrules7528]

Nice keep up with the videos 👍, can u tell me which race is the best irl or which traits they have etc? I want to start a new game with my gun and a bullet sitting right next to ut so i can make a new playthrough 😊

[@KokoplaysMB]

Ranking irl races next, stay tuned

[@ryanflorian2047]

hivers can not use helmets that protect against deadly gas this auto places them in F tear (can not fight in the ashlands and are only good for base defense despite the fast land speed) even though they are fast, they can't wear sandals so you can make any other race just as fast hiver shirts are trash compared to leather turtlenecks or chain (no arm protection) they have to completely rely on robotic limbs that's not a + because now you have no armor for even those robotic limbs skeletons have no head armor and when the they take hits to the head they overtime take damage even after you repair them (can not live without skelly bed so the fast heal rate is worthless) can't take with you like bed roles blunt damage will lower max health so much that the extra health will bring them to shek levels but with less armor has only body and leg armor C shek high bleed sounds bad but you are going to give your shek the beefiest armor so bleed is not a problem (samurai armor 81% to cut 90% bleed protection / chain 48% 60% so bleed is nothing) this armor makes them bad with ranged weapons can only be the big guy with sword but they are the best at it you will always need at least one guy to fill this role to deal with large mobs so shek is A scorch can do anything an easy S high dex (attacks more/ blocks more) more damage/ more survivability good shooters can martial arts high heal (toughness train them with little penalty) little bleed so light armor is a thing you can do you give him the best martial arts stuff and you will rival the shek samurai build (in doors fighting god) green is just B not good at anything, not bad at anything nothing to say about them

[@LordHookie]

wh but princes and workers can both wear fog masks and swamp ninja masks ?????

[@captainmurphy4948]

Couple of things. One, only hive soldies can't wear helmets. Princes and workers can. So yeah the hive soldiers are pretty garbage but the other two are pretty decent, in a straight up fight inferior to skellies, sheks and humans but that's not really what they're there for, they're your scouts/assassins/archers. Second, unless it has been changed the second layer of clothing is fairly useless as the game calculates the damage from the first set of armour it encounters in the area, so if it's something with 100% protection for the region then the underlay doesn't factor in. If you have 90% protection in the area then that's 10% chance your underlay will get a roll, and if it's not 100% it has a chance to bypass it too. Second Skeletons don't suffer wear and tear that fast outside of low toughness. If they're conking out on you that much get them beaten up more closer to home so you can throw them into repair beds as needed and they'll handle even clearing out the trash before Catty or Arach soon enough. However even completely new recruits I haven't had that much an issue with wear and tear unless I do something crazy like take them on multiple ancient ruin clears without heading for home/somewhere else with skeleton bed between dives.

[@ryanflorian2047]

@@LordHookie sorry was talking about solder drone the other two have such a small health pools on top of lack of armor I wouldn't think anyone would use them for combat some enemies can kill them in one hit misfires from eagle cross one hit kills the worker the only plus I see is that they can eat the yellow meat and kite but solder is the only one that can take hits

[@KonaFanatiker]

@@ryanflorian2047 I mean eagles cross is a bit situational / specific. You don't necessarily want to use them when enemies clsoe the distance to you unless you are purely kiting slower enemies. Then you can simply not bunch up your characters. If that is too much micromanagement for your taste, then yes don't use hivers as frontliners or anywhere near your eagle cross guys without some serious toughness training and decent precision shooting training for your eagle cross users. The worker and prince can wear decent helmets and armor too though and the worker even has 125 head HP in vanilla. Just 75 in limbs, stomach and chest, but for that you put on heavy armor of decent quality and there should be no full to 0 oneshots.

[@captainmurphy4948]

@@ryanflorian2047 And it's for that reason that once my group becomes somewhat big I rarely use crossbows outside of certain enemies, like cleanser units and the king and queen of the Southern Hive. And having taken Beep, Silvershade and Green to see buggy, catty and the Southern Royals multiple times and with them finishing our adventures with limbs intact on occasion it's certainly viable. Harder maybe but definitely not impossible. And that's without heavy armour, as I really detest the penalties they impose. At heaviest I go white plate jacket with armoured skirt rags and plated longboots. Facewear is pretty much always fog mask or type 3 mask, occasionally armored hat if I remember to swap for acid rain, generally it doesn't do enough damage to care about. Guess I could make chain tagelmusts but considering how much steel chain burns through I rarely consider it a worthwhile trade.

[@thealienlife]

Do the real life races next!

[@KokoplaysMB]

Sure

[@Dargor321]

I personaly prefer eskeletons above sheks because sheks just keeps eating all your food supply and even after that they are still hungry. I think that all the money you spend feeding sheks is more than the money you spend healing skeletons

[@ninmurgaming4800]

13:30 их почти невозможно найти в виде рекрутов так что стоит надеется на моды, я думаю было бы хорошей идеей сделать Burn or Sabneil именно этой расы

[@wakkosick6525]

with the Cannibalz Mod the "Cannonballs" are alot better without being OP.

[@jasonwhite8441]

Dead hiver prince has just as many bounuses just in different things

[@anonop7318]

Casual racism vs ranked racism

[@HellishSpoon]

hmm there is some thing "funny" about ranking races.

[@KokoplaysMB]

"funny" yes

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@KokoplaysMB It's an artefact of ye olden language use with Tolkien and everyone copying him.

[@joemada8743]

Do this tier list in real life 🙏

[@Guy25why]

For some reason I think the newer players don’t like the bug people has much as the older players because they use every race but the hive

[@hozic9929]

What about the queen ?

[@a.N.....]

Was hoping for the goatmen

[@KokoplaysMB]

They are the goat

[@churchfires]

When's your next race tier list?

[@donelkingii3738]

I identify as Beep.

[@qpAHT0M]

All video in 1 comment: I like playing with hive solder

[@omnidirectionalhuntergodradar]

in kenshi a race tier list is all fine but when i do it in real life...

[@mnnkrr]

Fishimon not S tier? Im about to end this mans whole career.

[@KokoplaysMB]

SORRY!

[@rachun8746]

next up: ranking all races in real life

[@KokoplaysMB]

KZbin would love that..

[@darthplagueis13]

My personal favourite is probably Scorchlander because they get bonuses to fun and good skills, the ability to eat raw meat and their penalties aren't too severe. Plus, like Greenlanders, they can interact with any non-hostile faction. Plus, they get glowy eyes, which is cooler than Greenlanders. The only real downside is that they get a penalty to strength, but it's only -10%. I mean, labouring, farming and cooking are pretty boring anyways. I'd say, they are ideal for people who want basically a Hive Prince lite, with a few simular skills, but without the penalties of being discriminated against by the Holy Nation (for not being human) and the Western Hive (for being hiveless), having super low limb health and having limited clothing slots.

[@lucasbrant9856]

Scorchlander is a basically greenlander+. Strength is a lot easier to train than Dexterity as well.

[@lewiswood1693]

Well in lore scorchlanders are the human race as they are humans adapted to surviving in this world.

[@sams9774]

Do this for earth next

[@justinschuster666]

I would agree with most of this list, but holy hell you butchered skeleton's ranking. They are universally considered S-tier by 95% of the playerbase, yet they're B-tier in this one? Weird. This list did make me respect how good drone fighters are though due to the explanations

[@timothypodmore2973]

I would have the skeleton above shek

[@PacificBird]

Kenshi: the racism update

[@KokoplaysMB]

Indeed

[@raphaelnaidoo7117]

Ah. The Hive Master Race Manifesto

[@KokoplaysMB]

Yes

[@FrankieWuzHere]

I disagree with a lot in these rankings... Soldierbot not being number 1. Having a prince anywhere except F tier and so much more 😅 Normally I just keep quiet when I disagree with someone on their video but since I learned any comments help out videos decided to say what I thought :) -Frankiewuzhere

[@KokoplaysMB]

Why the dislike for princes if I may ask?

[@FrankieWuzHere]

@@KokoplaysMB Sorry about the super late reply. Princes have very low health pools and because of that if I take a single chest hit (Let's say 40 damage) I lose 11.25%Str/30%Dex where a Greenlander would only take 9%Str/24%Dex, Skeleton 4.5%Str/12%Dex etc... On top of that in Kenshi if you are hit, you are more likely to be hit again in the same spot (1.99xish chance if hit once, goes up more for each hit) so a vital spot struct can really be grim on a prince as they have less of a pool of hp to use. Also because Healrate is tied to max hp they heal .8 health in their body in the amount of time a Greenlander heals 1. Or Skeleton heals 4... Or soldierbot (Agnu) heals 6.

[@schmolzz]

scorchlander is easily s tier above everyone else except skeletons wich are borderline op and shek are low c tier due to their terrible eating behavior and super slow run and heal rate

[@TheInfurnos]

Shek are the most powerful , at least mid to end game , 125 all locations full armour use, huge str. When you can get them masterwork armor and robotic limbs they run 35 mph and have upto 120 str/dex which makes them hit for 200 w/ a falling sun.

[@schmolzz]

@@TheInfurnos like i said the slow heal rate and hunger just make shek terrible unless u like waiting forever for them to heal back up. also the most powerfull are easily skeletons that much should be obvious, they are super easy to get to 99 toughness and heal at such an insane rate that it just not fair. i personally prefer hive soldier bois, they heal fast have lower hunger and learn the important fighting skills way faster then shek(strength bonus isnt important) obviously this is kenshi and everyone can play however they want, but the only playthrough that i couldnt finish out of my dozens or so was my shek playthrough because those guys where just such a pain in the ass to deal with

[@TheInfurnos]

@@schmolzz no head armour = no win. one of your disconnect spots has 0 mitigation save toughness. Heal rate is not a factor , by the time you run from one place to another , your healed , if food is a factor , find another game. I did a playthough with humans and shek and skels , but not bugs , so I can't speak for that but the most powerful by far is my sheks. My 1 power shek with his str trained and well seasoned combat elder bull can wipe out an entire large city solo (and pack away alot of the loot) neat trick if you start another playthough after you can amass a heap of iron and the 20kb orange thingys or stack of levithan pearls (anything stackable and very heavy) , buy the youngest bull you can and str train it, my battle bull has 75 str as an elder about 65 attack and 80 toughness, hits for about 300 damage base , still goes down fast but for clearing a path it's the ultimate backpack.

[@schmolzz]

@@TheInfurnos i personally prefer larger groups and shek are just a nightmare for me because of that, a leg that has been badly damaged just takes way to long to heal for my liking, and no head/shirt armor really doesnt matter that much when ur not trying to fight one of the legendary people 1on1. also i never said they werent formidable fighters, its imo just not worth the tradeoff. also an exp boost in strength training means nothing to me personally but to each their own though for me personally they are low c tier

[@TheInfurnos]

@@schmolzz I think what it is for me , since I train mostly on leviathans , is that it can't be done by anything that doesn't wear full armour, or you take a crit to the head, and your instantly killed. Str training is very important if you want to get the most out of robotic limbs. Also do try training your bullpack , it's alot of fun. I think I shall try a hiver playthrough using your preferred swarm style see how I like it ( I do get attched though and will hate to see perma deaths).

[@BlxssedEye]

In my opinion the hive prince is by far the best, because they're incredibly fast, aren't terrible in combat and can wear the biggest variety of gear out of all hivers, second best is the Skeleton and third best is shek because shek are by far the best at combat they are walking tanks

[@hatforacat3977]

Good. Now, rank all races in real life

[@theamazingwesbrown3290]

I think you are over-valuing the early combat boost and not really considering much else

[@somerando8509]

"Im not Racist! My gardeners a Hiver! " -👴

[@010WhatMy]

I wonder when kenshi 2 will come out

[@KokoplaysMB]

In the year of our lord Beep 2045

[@ethernet764]

Kenshi 2077

[@IIISWILIII]

Green privilege perk

[@dantevalentine7649]

Disappointed! Beep is Beep's own race! Beep is Strongest! None can defeat Beep! Beep is S Tier!

[@KokoplaysMB]

Beep

[@dantevalentine7649]

@Kokoplays MB I have recruited Beep into my Skeleton only, Holy Nation suppression run. Beep is a Skeleton after all.

[@simonalvarez1960]

Erase In and Kenshi and you will have a solid topic

[@Stone_Orchids]

Lol hive soldiers in the S tier and shek only in A, shek are by far the strongest race in combat, I love soldier drones, my personal favorite, but in the end game even at 80+ Toughness one guy in a good turret have no truble to pierce your skull to death before you can get to him