RANKING Different Martial Arts Styles KICKS?! Kicking Tier List w/ Sensei Seth

[@thatguymaurille]

Seth you have to realize that yes they were Kung Fu fighting but you have remember those KICKS were fast as lightning. In fact it was a little bit frightening. But they moved with expert timing

[@Dominator-fq8xe]

I don't think he took that into account

[@SenseiSeth]

Oh dang, so maybe it was good then

[@raphaelaegis8305]

@@SenseiSeth You put Bruce Lee at B tier?

[@jaykar469]

Bruce Lee would take a 300 lb bag and knock it off the chain with that pendulum side kick

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@SenseiSeth awesome!!!

[@koy324]

some say that sensei seth teaches karate but lets be honest here, hes more of an expert at dissing taekwondo XD

[@Haywood-Jablomie]

TaeKwonDouche is an awesome art. It's not really effective for self defense, but it looks cool !

[@dukevada3]

@@Haywood-Jablomie definitely depends on the practitioner

[@NicolaMaxwell]

Definitely 🤣🤣

[@MrNonoya_Bizness]

@@Haywood-Jablomie ITF is actually decent tho

[@d.oahugrown808king7]

@@Haywood-Jablomie yeah tell guys like scott adkins bren foster anthony pettis mjw that taekwondo is shit. Pretty sure youd catch a kick in the face so quick it would knock your head off. I learned my kicks through taekwondo and I have great kicks and strong ones too

[@rayh.1745]

Just caught up and watched this vid.... As a TKD artist of 34 years I have to say that you invaded my safe space. You made my Muay Thai girlfriend laugh. I was sad. But then I remembered you getting kicked in the face repeatedly by David Wright and the world became nicer.

[@syphe101]

ikr LOL

[@Marcus-ec1kx]

😂, it explains some of gis beef with TKD.

[@lejo1233]

that comment😆

[@abelee9324]

I do taekwondo competing nationally and internationally and have done fair share of traditional tkd training too......and i died when you put it at F tier. Love the work sensei :) will always support you!

[@SenseiSeth]

Thanks my friend!! Sorry for the razzing lol

[@abelee9324]

@@SenseiSeth All in fun sensei!! Iove your videos 😁😁

[@Vinnay94]

🙏

[@MattHinkamp]

As a Taekwondo teacher, for those who give this guy flack for his comments about TKD, let me just quickly put into perspective that most of his ranking videos are about the art’s effectiveness in real life altercations, where TKD is notoriously known for focusing on the very rule-based competition sparring, demos, and flexibility/acrobatics. There’s certainly a place for it, it’s a super effective and wonderful art, so understand who Seth is and what he focuses on before saying too much in the comments :)

[@arvinbjorkgren965]

To be fair, this video was kicking focused. And karate kicks got a higher ranking than Taekwondo. I have practiced them both, personally I have the experience that karate kicks are more inefficient than taekwondo kicks.

[@mrhomosensual8717]

@@arvinbjorkgren965 its varies among everyone

[@jean4j_]

@@arvinbjorkgren965 What would you say is the difference between karate and taekwondo kicks? I'm not sure there's many, it's more a matter of combos and rhythm I feel like

[@arvinbjorkgren965]

@@jean4j_ primarily depends on what teacher you have. But from my experience, some karate People try to make the kicks look good in kata before focusing on generation of power and speed. Difficult to explain. When I saw sensei Seths kicks, I really thought he was doing Taekwondo kicks. High kicks and rotational kicks are characterizing kicks as well. This is purely my opinion though.

[@arvinbjorkgren965]

@@jean4j_ you are right about the fact that kicks are not so different. Since kicks in Taekwondo come from Shotokan Karate and Taekkyon. Taekwondo kicks are more focused to not get kicked as well and being able to follow up with another kick. On the subject of combos.

[@snazdogdbfan251]

Bro he memed on every single one of us with that tkd one. I was excited for a whole explanation lmao

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahahaha got you good

[@snazdogdbfan251]

@@SenseiSeth dang u quick with them responses

[@SenseiSeth]

Just depends on the timing haha

[@SenseiSeth]

HHaha thank you 😂🙏

[@Vinnay94]

@@snazdogdbfan251 Not as quick as Bruce Lee with his Yeet can do.

[@jodyg.950]

Man I was hoping taekwondo would get it's fair share for once God dammit

[@canphan1375]

Illegal

[@robertlisastanley7433]

He's such a hater

[@step_indapool6799]

Why F tier for Taekwondo??

[@me82sjm]

It did

[@killuazoldyck8078]

hahaha he's just joking. He did tkd himself for a bit

[@Unity116]

Forgot Ameridote- that groin stomp kick works every time 😤

[@SenseiSeth]

Oh jeez you’re right 😞

[@Domitianvs]

Ameri-do-te will just not be contained by the limits of a tier list. Basically, S-tier is not good enough for AdT.

[@Unity116]

@@Domitianvs Ameridote would deserve the only R tier- for REAL

[@Spikebert]

Everyone Knows that Ameridote is S-S tier, so it doesn't need to be mentioned in comparative ranks

[@klausernstthalheim9642]

Well Capoeira got some straight kicks: "Bencao" (a front/push kick where you kicked with the sole or with the heel) usually aimed in the "roda" on the chest or abdomen, but outside the "roda" additional aimed at the head. Its a very strong kick. "Chapa-de-frente" is a quite fast sidekick. "Chapa-de-costas" its a donkey kick, aimed at the knees or abdomen. "Pisao" is a sidekick, where you use your rear leg or a variation from "Pisao" is "Chapa Giratoria" (a "Pisao with an additional front step). "Ponteira" is similar to an teep kick. The straight kicks would be rarely used in a "Roda", because they are meant to end a fight. All this kicks a fast and are tricky for opponent, because circular kicks can be used in that place. They will be trained in the same amount of time and intensity like the circular kicks. But in a street fight a Capoeirista use more the straight kicks and sweeps than the circular kicks. There is a misconception that a "Roda" that is a sparring, its more correct that is an question and answer game that can be held in the public, because they are usually no intent to harm each between the player, just to outdo and hinder each other. It's ideal for demonstrations. But sparrings would be done in the training, but not in a demonstration. But i must admit how much sparring and conditioning take in place depend strongly on the group (especially origin and style), place (Europe, Russia/Central Asia, Brazil/South America, USA/Canada, Japan), the teacher and on the focus (like when lot of womens participate and few mens, sparring done rarely). So a B rank is justified. But interesting note is when you examine groups that are from the northern part of brazil, they often incorporated Luta Livre in their training. You can best describe Luta Livre as a bane to BJJ (they are similar, but their origin is different). In Vale Tudo BJJ-practioners have a hard time, while Luta Livre shine there.For a while BJJ refused to incorporate leglocks, because Luta Livre does it alot. While Capoeira has his takedowns and throws, this isn't the main focus, but Luta Livre strangely blend well in.

[@joatanpereira4272]

The cool thing with roda is that it's all up to the participants on what is allowed and what isn't. I've seen rodas where they could slap, takedown, and knee (body only), but never connect a kick or punch. I think what capoeira really teaches is improvisation, malandragem, you gotta be tricky.

[@Histgyph]

Just from what he showed in the video it didn’t look like they were trying to hit each other, am I misunderstanding or was that just a demonstration?

[@Spikebert]

@@Histgyph Misunderstanding- Capoeira is played in the center of the circle, called a Roda. It's practiced more like a cooperative dance, it's not sparring. It does develop the skills though, and the techniques can be quite powerful and effective once developed.

[@06capoeirista]

Pendhd - For those particular games, I don't think they were looking to make much contact. That being said, they also weren't intentionally missing. If you watch it again, notice that one practitioner throws the kick at where the other person's head is in space at the outset of the kick and the other practitioner dodges. This is how the majority of games go. I have however seen an instance of a really strong meia Lua de compasso (wheel kick with the hand on the ground striking with the heel) delivered lower than normal, coupled with the dodger leaving his head too high that resulted in a compressed skull fracture and emergency surgery. Scary night in class.

[@cruznahoel678]

Yeah but nowadays luta livre is basically adopted into bjj especially no gi

[@caudillo234]

Ngl bro, I honestly think that karate kicks are worse than tkd kicks. Yes, yall will hate me but is not the first time.

[@me82sjm]

Why though? Like fine to have the opinion but what's the basis

[@nonglishq6727]

Can you tell us why because I legitimately want to know.

[@caudillo234]

@@me82sjm I know is impossible to generalize all karate styles, but many karate styles have slower kicks and unlike muay thai they don't put enough power to compensate. In tkd (at least the old school one not the let's touch with our feet) they put so much in effort in the speed as way to make powerful kicks, and it works pretty good. Of course at the end it will depend of the person that practices and how it practices.

[@caudillo234]

@@nonglishq6727 I know is impossible to generalize all karate styles, but many karate styles have slower kicks and unlike muay thai they don't put enough power to compensate. In tkd (at least the old school one not the let's touch with our feet) they put so much in effort in the speed as way to make powerful kicks, and it works pretty good. Of course at the end it will depend of the person that practices and how it practices.

[@me82sjm]

@@caudillo234 I would have to disagree. Karate styles are well known for speed, within kick boxing and mma it's one of the main advantages karate fighters are credited with Furthermore the speed of tkd kicks in general tends to limit its power rather than increase or help it the high speed comes from the use of a type of snap normally with different striking surfaces like the top of the foot , only using lead leg kicks normally and within wtf and point tkd more flick kicks with are almost straight up and down with no body movement or chambering to give any strength within it The issue is all tkd kicks are within karate but karate has other versions of each that tkd does not it also includes leg kicks with tkd does not Karate makes use of the ball, heel and shin while ignoring the foot top or instep for safer kicks It has a better middle ground of thrust and snap It maintains speed enough to be recognisably different within full contact My main style is wing chun kung fu so I know about speed for power it's one of our main principles and there's a lot more to it, just being fast won't give you the power while increasing the velocity of mass creates force , you need the correct form to use that speed to transfer the force enough

[@PerunaMuayThai]

"That's enough Tomfoolery." I request exclusively Tomfoolery sir.

[@SenseiSeth]

Oh dang, well to be fair there’s way more tomfoolery coming 😂

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@SenseiSeth

[@watamutha]

Tomfoolery is such a white person word. Like the word ‘Malarkey’

[@davidmentier3861]

I do TKD and love it. But I also love how Seth always trolls TKD. Cracks me up every time.

[@lightning2034]

I was expecting him to give this long detail explanation as to why tkd is f tier....nope end of video lmao

[@omartlili5849]

Capoeira's very impractical but remember that has some of the strongest kicks, that's not shit you underestimate

[@c.antoinehill100]

I practice Capoeira and it's practical. You necessarily don't have to do the flips abd other stuff. But it's about angles and the kicks are unpredictable.

[@randomhairz]

I fought a guy who did tkd and capo in a kickboxing competition and he sparked me out with a reverse round house that I could not track at all. I woke up with a pounding headache and that was with pads on 😅. Do not mess with those guys at midrange

[@renegysenbergs3171]

Come on Seth, be honest.......you really want to practise Taekwondo 😂

[@SenseiSeth]

Haha I have in the past!

[@renegysenbergs3171]

@@SenseiSeth me too, before I made the switch to Savate, which is btw 50% kicks and 50% English boxing (ruleset inforced).

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@SenseiSeth

[@BadassBobY]

@Rusherheart47 diss em mcdojos

[@TotalCombatives]

Dude... I am a mixed martial artist. Among my 5 core styles is Taekwondo. In fact Taekwondo is what started my martial arts journey. I think there are some Karate "mc dojos" that would disgrace you... that is how it is with Taekwondo for me. There are few GOOD Taekwondo schools left. I myself found it inadequate in many areas, but I am still proud to be a practitioner. Although it has many short comings, nothing has built the warrior ethos into me more than Taekwondo. I still enjoy your channel (even if it makes my blood boil sometimes)

[@step_indapool6799]

I feel the same.

[@d.j6607]

Karate is just better

[@tristancollier777]

I think it deepens on the system. I've never tried it before, but I just signed up at my local school school to see for myself. I'm going to cast my judgment when I reach black belt. We will see what I like better. Wish me luck!

[@the_bassiah]

All these karate kicks that sensei seth do really come from TKD in essence, if we wipe out all the mcdojos the traditional TKD coming from general Choi has those kicks in them before traditional karate

[@soniaiboyako4023]

@@the_bassiah it's literally that simple which is why i find the attitude surrounding TKD very odd, especially since we've gone from "these are sports" to "these have to compete for title of most efficient in a street fight" which also doesn't account for the fact that "street fight" is incredibly vague and that you can very well injure someone badly with kicks (since we've all agreed that for some reason a TKD fighter wouldn't use anything but their legs if they were assaulted)

[@boxingwithben1510]

Great stuff Seth! I must say, Muay Thai has the most brutal leg kicks in the game. One of my favourite Muay Thai inspired kicks is to fake a rear leg turning kick to the abdomen and chop it down diagonally into the thigh muscle. You can generate SO much torque and blunt force with that kick, hit the right point on the muscle and that person won't be able to apply weight to that leg for some time! It just requires quite a lot of investment on your behalf due to the need to condition your shins and desensitise yourself towards taking leg kicks in return.

[@Ninjacob00]

The existential crisis Seth had putting Sanda at S tier lol

[@ryanliu6694]

It's damn right tho

[@ElDrHouse2010]

He wanted that spot for Karate maybe.

[@IBL33WJ3TLI]

Hahahaha. I knew you'd do that with TKD. 😄🤣😂😆. The whole time, in my head I was saying TKD will be the worst. Good video... hitting the like button is hard though...

[@the_bassiah]

Yeah I know it's a big joke that he's dissing TKD, but it still hurts my soul 😂😂

[@KarateTVtraditional]

I got the notification..and I'm here watching your video...(it's part of my routine now) ...no big deal.. until 11:34 I find that I'm in this video 🤯 😂 ..yes THAT'S ME .. I'm Surprised and Honoured at the same time..😂🙏 Thank you Sensei (I'm only flexible and athletic in front of the camera ..btw😅)

[@shaypatrick7497]

aare sir, aap log yaha😃😃😃🙏🏻

[@BadassBobY]

@@shaypatrick7497 send anime

[@debarjandatta2170]

Man I was genuinely surprised and super happy seeing you in the video

[@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y]

There's a sport called Sepak Takraw. It's like volleyball, but you use your feet. Might be good for a reaction video.

[@adrianramadhana1003]

WHAT THE FAK !! THAT'S EXIST?

[@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y]

@@adrianramadhana1003 Yes, they play it in Southern Asia.

[@adrianramadhana1003]

@@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y ok cool

[@therealfodder]

So happy Aikido got S tier.

[@DoctorZisIN]

Yeah, what about BJJ? and Greco-Roman Wrestling?, and Curling?

[@cavedwella_6629]

@@DoctorZisIN don't forgot cooking and sleeping

[@DoctorZisIN]

@@cavedwella_6629 I hear Rafa Nadal puts a wicked topspin on his kicks.

[@cavedwella_6629]

@@DoctorZisIN have you seen Tiger woods's spinning back kick?

[@DoctorZisIN]

@@cavedwella_6629 I hear it's a hit with the ladies.

[@its-rachit]

how you took down taekwando is phenomenal. When you said that taekwando is basically all about kicking I got my hopes high that you will keep it on a slightly better level this time.. but that last part made me go rofl... that was the icing ( I watch youtube at 2x). awesome commentary.............. keep up the good work.... :D

[@bentinho]

Capoeira has loads of straight kicks. I taught and practiced for many years and can tell you those kicks are practiced about as much as the circular ones, along with the requisite counters, sweeps and takedowns for them. Of course, it depends on the group and teachers, how much of that you will see in a roda... Some groups are much more aggressive than others, etc. Therefore, you may see straight kicks more often in their rodas and games. Also, there are different types of rodas/games and more public facing rodas tend to de-emphasize the combative aspects. The most confusion probably comes from the roda itself... as it isn't straight up sparring but contact can and does occur...it's usually reserved between mid to higher level practitioners (I've been in some pretty rough rodas myself and have seen straight up fights in the roda... lol). There's an etiquette to the game and straight kicks are generally seen as aggressive and can be interpreted/misinterpreted as an invitation to "get rough" or even sometimes disrespectful. You have to really be able to read the other person's intentions, the feel of the game and the environment of the roda. A roda is also, typically, a multi-ranked and age affair...you can have someone in their first month playing someone with 30 years experience with kids/teens mixed in...so that adds a whole different dimension.

[@vincentshi1082]

Hey Sensei Seth, I’ve been one of your fans on Instagram before you created a KZbin account. I remember when you only had a few subscribers. I am very much inspired by the growth of your channel and your contribution to the KZbin martial arts community. I love your collaborations with other martial arts KZbinrs and I love your content. You have inspired me to become qualified and one day join the martial arts community on KZbin by making my own channel when I’m a bit older. Until then, I will carry on my martial arts journey. Thank you Sensei!

[@SenseiSeth]

Thanks for sticking around Vincent!! Best of luck!!

[@vincentshi1082]

@@SenseiSeth it is an honour! 🙏🏼

[@wesleymartins5970]

Before watching: Muay Thai usually has the nastiest kickers around, except for those few Kyokushin legends, like Andy Hug, Francisco Filho and Glauber Feitosa.

[@captainsalty5688]

I'll take Samkor in his prime. Straight bazooka Cannons for legs.

[@simonrcarson]

I found the analysis of kicks really, really useful, especially your breakdown of taekwondo kicking. Especially incisive, I thought.

[@blakedove2263]

As a genuine request. Please do an in depth video on the differences between TKD kicks and Karate. The arts seem extremely similar. They both stand in the very side ways bouncing stance, they throw snap kicks and spinning kicks. They just seem to have very minor differences.

[@8unlucky8]

The biggest difference having done both imo is time taekwondos system is a kicking focused system the one minor difference I tend to feel though is if muay Thai is a bat and tkd is a whip karate lands somewhere in the middle like tkd everything we do how we turn our hips to how we stand everything is built on the ability to rotate or hips to generate velocity. Karate tends to be a bit more rigid and based than that I grew up doing ITF tkd and now I do olympic and we sparred karate guys alot our sister school was tsd and they'd bring karate guys around. We'd always joke that they were slow they were but there defense wasn't movement based and they tended to be able to hit harder closer. Now the karate school was shorin Ryu so old-school Okinawan karate and karate and tkd nowadays have so many offshoots and branches this could all be a school difference

[@hpm1014]

Search Karate Kyokushin and you'll see a massive difference. We fight and kick in really short distances, including low kicks and knee attacks. And we don't bounce at all. So this specific karate style doesn't look at all like taekwondo. We also compete with bare knuckles and no shin or feet protections, BTW.

[@Jaseran]

Hi Sensei Seth, thanks for this interesting and fun video. I'm glad to see some savate in here for once (but please, try to watch some more recent videos rather than old 90's rip ;p) :) I've done Savate for years and I'll try to give you some feedback regarding your judgment. First of all, B tiers seems legit to me. Savate kicks specificity come from its core rule set: we boxe wearing shoes. So in Savate, you can kick with any part of the feet but only with the feet (not with the chin). This means that Savate kicks aim much more for speed rather than power. They are more stinging rather than choping. The best weapon in kicks savate is the toe kick. Since you wear shoes and you aim for speed first, you can deal pretty painful damages without breaking your foot. After 2 or 3 kicks to the solar plexus, it can become very difficult to breath and this kick is very difficult to stop. Send a short punches combinaison, side step and send a body snap kick with your toe in the solar plexus. Your feet will sneak between your opponent boxing guard while he is blocking the leg. Very legit tactic with shoes. Push kick descending on the thigh is also sooo painful and can stop the opponent attack in a nasty way. And the hook kick to the head with shoes man... It does hurt even with no power... But the main problem with savate kicks also comes from its core rule. You can only kick with the foot, not the chin, so you are very limited with distance management (kicking from too close would result in a chin kick). More over, the rule set also adds artificial limits such as "no vertical kick" and "all kicks must be chambered". All these rules make savate kicks elegent to watch but a bit limited in variety I think... And our side push kick is very similar to the karate kick you hate. I'm not found of it either when sent to the body but if you rather aim to the thigh then, like I said, it becomes a bit slow but really efficient.

[@vinaykumar488]

11:33 this guy .. is a shotokan karate practitioner ... In reality ... And being a south indian he also knows kalari ... And he is a great ... Sensie though

[@mastakilla7317]

dude is great with the hips

[@KarateTVtraditional]

Whoa... Talking about me.... 😂😂Thanks 🙏

[@vinaykumar488]

@@KarateTVtraditional ... Pranam sensie 😂🔥🥋🇮🇳

[@KarateTVtraditional]

@@vinaykumar488 pranam ji 😅🙏 Finding other indians on an American channel...in the comment section...😂😂😂(good feeling)

[@shaypatrick7497]

@@KarateTVtraditional , 🤣🤣🤣

[@MPB059]

The other day I learned the first four basic kicks of JKD then i learn how to do the spinning back kick and we did drill of almost 600 kicks on both sides. I had fun learning the JKD kicks!

[@SD-ym1rt]

Rogan's spinning back heel kick

[@SenseiSeth]

The way he does it, not the way he teaches it lol

[@SD-ym1rt]

@@SenseiSeth I'll take anything at this stage in life

[@kuuryotwo5153]

@@SenseiSeth that seems to be a common theme with TKD. I was watching someone teaching TKD kicks yesterday, and it seemed like what he taught was different from what he *did* when you watched the full speed kick at .25x speed.

[@eliasayele8989]

No matter how much you hate TKD, you and Master Wright are helping me with my kicks a ton. So, you know...thanks and whatever.

[@johnhendricks8140]

Damn you put Tae Kwondo at f without explanation, that was cold.

[@SenseiSeth]

All for the memes lol

[@freshfrozen7612]

@@SenseiSeth you target your video to wide amount of audience, its just childish to take matters involving people's pride and dedication by ridiculing it only for your memes

[@SenseiSeth]

@@freshfrozen7612 sounds like pride gets in the way of the enjoying things if that’s the case

[@freshfrozen7612]

@@SenseiSeth and tbh i think you dissed tkd enough, give it a fresh breath atleast .-.

[@SenseiSeth]

Never

[@honigdachs.]

I think the best kickers are the Kyokushin guys. They're very flexible, but also very powerful, and they can do head kicks from all ranges, including from very close. They're much stronger and more devastating than TKD kicks, but less telegraphed, less stiff and with less windup than MT kicks.

[@zacdufala6925]

I'm so upset about TKD ranking. I'm going to have to schedule a cuddle session with a cuddle doctor. We'll have to have a heart to heart when I get back "grabs care bear plushie and walks out".

[@SenseiSeth]

Habahahaha

[@mp9810]

You can book that with your TKD instructor.

[@LootGoblin42069]

As a kung Fu practitioner, I agree that some kung Fu styles focus on snap kicks, but the best way to separate kung Fu kicks is with northern and Southern. Southern kicks are rooted in deep stances, and are mostly aimed up to waist level. Northern kicks are famous for there flying kicks, and are usually aimed at head level.

[@ViperG2099]

My favorite is the side kick. I’m just broken with it. And roundhouses. I have a combo I do with them. I do a roundhouse kick, then with the momentum I dive forward into a side kick.

[@derekbarbosa]

side/side "thrust" kicks feel like cheating... so fun to pull off. quick, easy, fast, precise.

[@Something0102]

I usually side-kick and then a back kick.

[@SenseiSeth]

LOVE it

[@Abluemoon9112]

@@Something0102 I love to the front leg side kick into a jumping spinning back kick.

[@Something0102]

@@Abluemoon9112 Yeah, it is satisfying doing thoses kicks

[@Enzo-hu9gs]

This is one of the reason why I love Sensei Seth, we both diss TKD.

[@stefanolombardi9907]

Have I practiced Tang Soo Do in a seminar of Grand Master Dominick A. Giacobbe in Naples 6 years ago. It was very amazing!

[@SenseiSeth]

Ah dang, I’ll search him up 👍

[@duncangrant4117]

ur tier list vids have gotten a lot better the muay thai bit was good lol

[@ymd2516]

Sensei Seth vs. TKD. Make it happen Dana

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahahaha

[@yeetfeet1878]

@just a niceguy do you know what trolling is because that’s what he was doing. He thinks Taekwondo gets S tier but he was just giving Taekwondo a hard time/

[@yeetfeet1878]

@just a niceguy I don’t know why you are getting so aggressive I said nothing rude to you in that reply it just goes to show how insecure and unhinged people are.

[@BFGalbraith74]

Your best tier video yet, maybe best tier video on KZbin.

[@ryanliu6694]

7:50 AYYYYY MY BOY. I actually think there's a few problems with Sanshou kicks if you specialize. My spinning kicks aren't as good sometimes but that's why I started tkd. That's just me personally tho, Sanshou as a whole is rlly good at everything, including unorthodox and power kicks.

[@SenseiSeth]

I’m definitely a fan, I need a good teacher for it!

[@ryanliu6694]

@@SenseiSeth If you ever go to NY, there's a guy there who was a Sanda and Sambo guy. He also is a gold medalist in Shuai Jiao (China's wrestling art)

[@carthagegaming5545]

Hey Sensei seth! Love the vids! Ever thought about reaching out to pro team sports kickers and seeing how they pick up martial arts kicks? Like get Pat McAfee to do some karate/TKD? I'm interested to see how much their sports kick power translates

[@SenseiSeth]

That’d be a dope way to do it!

[@thedemonslayer51]

You can just imagine him thinking "I can't put silat at F, I gotta put TKD there."

[@carloseduardoparenti1224]

Came looking for gold and found diamond instead Im a random brazilian taekwondo black belt, i love all your videos. Cant argue about anything you say about our style! Hahah best way to finish the video

[@prpredatorz310]

Tae Kwon Do---F tier for Fantastic, Fabulous, Freakin' Flippin' Flawless...

[@brownboy4800]

he knows its s tier but hes mad his dad but him in karate, i did both / like both

[@SenseiSeth]

Lol my dad took tkd, and now teaches karate

[@yordy4871]

@@SenseiSeth ITF taekwondo allows punches to head, we got elbows, knees, and leg kicks etc

[@marcz2903]

Something about savate that you didn't mention: the shoes have reinforced toes and heels, so getting hit with a toe kick to the solar plexus or the liver can put you down for the count. Also, a stomp kick to the knee with a reinforced heel would be hellish.

[@nemesisinverurie2829]

Sensei! Could you rank gis/ uniforms? I just started Judo and it feels so heavy compared to my kickboxing uniform. I think you could have fun ranking by stylishness!😂

[@federicorodriguez2254]

I think muay thai should be in S tier. Maybe they don't use a lot of different kicks but they don't need it either be in S tier. Maybe they don't use a lot of different kicks but they don't need it either. The power of those kicks are just INSANE and really effective

[@CoolGeekDefence]

I've been waiting on this😁😎

[@SenseiSeth]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@CoolGeekDefence]

@@SenseiSeth Enjoy isn't a strong enough feeling I loved it lol

[@CoolGeekDefence]

@@SenseiSeth Enjoy isn't a strong enough feeling I loved it lol

[@hermanmorris3420]

I have been following you for a good while now, so good!

[@maskedfishing7168]

Lol. The studio for Tang Soo Do in the video is my studio. If you want more info on Tang Soo Do just reach out to me.

[@SenseiSeth]

No way? That’s awesome lol

[@maskedfishing7168]

Yes. So there is two types of Tang Soo Do Practitioners. You have the sport practitioner where you see the point sparing. And then you have the traditional practitioner who focuses more on the self defense side. I do not put much stock in point sparing but that’s just my opinion. At my studio we teach stand up, throws and ground. Tang soo do is not that much different then Okinawan style. If you are interested in more info reach out to me.

[@Abluemoon9112]

@@maskedfishing7168 I agree with what you said. The form is more similar to Shotokan. The problem with sparring in Tang Soo Do it is not continuous so you can get away with the high kick more.

[@maskedfishing7168]

@@Abluemoon9112 I can’t speak for every Tang Soo Do Association but ours use to be much different on the sparring side. We use to be able to punch to the face and contact the body. However people would get hurt and either take legal action or quit. So they did what the felt was necessary. Now it is all point sparing unless you go to Europe or South America where they bend the rules a little.

[@Abluemoon9112]

@@maskedfishing7168 in my system only black belt can punch to the face but it is light contact then stop and then reset.

[@tofudog5699]

The tier list changed. Nice

[@nevendzelalijahammerschmid1371]

hello Seth, greetings from Argentina. I've seen a couple of your videos, and i like what you do. Keep it up! I've practiced capoeira and tae kwon do, and i was expecting both of them to get an A... the speed of tae kwon do, and the versatility and evasiveness of both of them, its like having 4 arms. Like Goro, whitout legs haha. Saludos!

[@mikej8382]

Snapping side kicks are the bane of my existence as well Seth, good call. Only really works if your good enough to land one clean on the chin.

[@SenseiSeth]

I agree!

[@gustavosuenaga]

Daaaammmnnnnn man did Taekwondo duurrrtyy 😂😂

[@c_rem6101]

Seth posts videos like clockwork they always are uploaded after I finish my training so it's always a treat to go and watch them

[@kipallen4191]

Sanshou Sanda most complete kicking style Northern & Southern Kung fu kicks + the sweet science + takedowns S tier all day

[@Tibosan2]

It's really cool to talk About Savate! Thanks a lot!

[@robertdavis9751]

I had to hit someone with a strong front kick for picking on and talking crap to an old guy

[@SenseiSeth]

Oh dang

[@ElDrHouse2010]

always defend the weak. well done.

[@atomkid1221]

This guy is insanely under rated

[@xaviersfinance2664]

I paused the first ad to say tkd kicks are s tier

[@jodyg.950]

Yes man we gettin bullied out here

[@isaacyeon6334]

Yeah like come on man

[@d.j6607]

Nah b

[@tinydestroyer]

Aww yeah, S for Sanda! As a Shaolin student, I fully expected kung-fu *forms* to be C tier. That's fair. But that's how we get in shape for sanda, baby!

[@Abluemoon9112]

What whatever style can do the best spinning back kick should be S tier.

[@SenseiSeth]

Hmmm.. that’d probably be ITF Tkd

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Capoeira is all about the spinning.

[@cesaralvesdemoraes3187]

@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 yes, but not spinning back kicks, most of their kicks are circular in trajectory

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

@@cesaralvesdemoraes3187 they have spinning back kicks a plenty.

[@randomhairz]

In our ITF club, we have a weird tradition that if you land spinning back kick, tornado kick, jumping side kick etc. In a competition ... That you get bought a melon or pineapple afterwards.

[@mikea7732]

Yo Seth, I love the vid! Brotha u gotta give some love to dutch kickboxing. Karate&muay thai kicks with boxing hands. Gotta get some love!

[@loganthenakmuay5473]

That's actually one of the first list when i agree with you on everything ! well actually for me , Muay thai was an instant S just seeing peoples clenching their ribs 3 days after being kicked by a nak muay but like , A's understandable , it's kinda limited on variety

[@tailanthaiboxing]

Man, most of the people in the comment section hasnt been kicked with a good muay thai roundhouse kick from a nakmuay with a couple of fights. If a 65kg to 75kg guy lands a kick on your ribs and you havent felt that before you are not fighting no more. Let alone imagine getting kicked by superlek or nong-o hahaha

[@fouried96]

So keen for a karate kata tier list

[@SenseiSeth]

Jesse already made one!

[@fouried96]

@@SenseiSeth lit! Thanks. Maybe you can do a kobudo kata tier list🔥

[@OgeXam]

Sir, I was actually interested in hearing how you would really rank TKD kicks. Then you just quickly just put them in F then moved on. Since TKD is actually a spin off of Tang Soo Do I was looking forward to hearing your breakdown. Then was curious if you were going to break it into the WT, ITF, and ITF pre sine wave styles.

[@Abluemoon9112]

Early on they were, but now they are really different art now. I have done both.

[@bentinho]

technically, TKD isn't a spin off of Tang Soo Do. They all developed out of the same "pool" of practicioners and eventually branched off as different schools and teachers emphasized different things.

[@cherryb0ng]

I never sparred or trained in my life but how is taekwondo F tier and Capoeira B tier? Isn't capoeira also not practical?

[@judgegerald1275]

Muay thai is just so good at there few kicks A is a perfect spot

[@MrNickW123]

That and they practice such practical kicks, they get more of that practice in. And is it is so well tested.

[@sesimie]

In Trinidad when someone is funny we say he is reeel "Kicks"!! Very apt for this video!!

[@geoffreyfletcher6976]

Tang Soo Dõ is very much a close cousin to Taekwondõ, as the both have a strong Shotõkan Karate base, but Taekwondõ has the strong native Korean taekkyon influence, whereas Tang Soo Dõ has a bit more hand use since the founder also trained in various styles of Chinese martial arts, combining that with the Soo Bahk Do the founder studied. So if you're going to give Tang Soo Dõ a B rating then Taekwondõ needs to go in that slot as well. Also it greatly depends upon which type of TKD you are referring to, as (based upon my personal experience and opinion) ITF Taekwondõ is a bit closer to the version originally used by the Korean military, thus a bit more self defense oriented than the WTF/WT Taekwondõ that is heavily involved with the Olympics and the Kukkikwon. Even though if Taekwondõ in either organization in being taught fully and with equal emphasis on all aspects of the curriculum, then both of these types of Taekwondõ are good. As far as other Kicking styles you did mention, that are known for their kicks due to the Korean origins or influence is arts like Hapkidõ, Kuk Sool Won, and Hwa Rang Do; and you could have even included the native Korean art of Taekkyon despite it's rarity. And Ninjutsu also has a decent array of combat oriented kicks. And if you were going to mention Muay Thai, you should have also included it's parent art of Muay Boran. And also since Jesse Enkemp did a video on how Japanese Karate wound up with high level kicks that were not originally in Okinawan Karate, is that Funakoshi's son was also a student of Savate having been exposed to it when Japanese was trying to become a bit more westernized. And since there are over 150 styles of Silat, penjak/pencak silat is just as deadly as any other style of Silat and it's practitioners fight differently in sport than they would in a self defense situation, if they are trained properly. Just like any art that has self defense capabilities.

[@dylanmccreary2164]

I have been hoping Tang Soo Do would come up more in these videos, since lack of hand use is one of the main weaknesses ascribed to TKD.

[@moustachio334]

Muay Thai can use all the same kicks as Muay Boran.

[@JCKOCLUBS]

Jo nice analysis, I was really surprised to see that there was someone sharing my opinion on the Bruce Lee Sidekick. Nice points made on muay thai especially.

[@christopherflynn6743]

TKD for sure has the best kicks no question. But!!! The fact that you tossed it down on F was priceless

[@hngryviirider8710]

I tought Tang Soo Do is just korean shotokan with better kicks :D

[@nikosmatalliotakis8893]

It is

[@richnielsen4465]

Great video, Seth. Have you considered doing one on hand striking styles or grappling styles?

[@kuuryotwo5153]

Poor TKD, it really is the red headed stepchild of TMA.

[@jaimesantiago9312]

Tae Kwon Do has a history younger people don’t know about. Karate was known as the point system that stopped after a almost hit and it lost some of its steam that has came back today with MMA. Tae Kwon Do then started with full contact sparing in the 80’s with no headgear and to score a point the rule book actually required “trembling shock” and a competitor in Florida got killed in a Florida state championship in either 86 or 87 then they made head gear mandatory. As it’s popular Olympic side developed things became more sporty much like Judo after it became an Olympic sport and that’s what people tend to criticize today but underneath it there’s a hard style martial art 🥋 if they embrace it.

[@Haywood-Jablomie]

Why is TaeKwonDaycare considered a TRADITIONAL Martial Art ? The name TaeKwonDouche was created in something like 1959 I believe. And no, I'm not talking about Soo Bakh Do or any of those. Some arts from the 1920's are considered "Modern" , that always confused me.

[@toughmr774]

I do Tang soo do It is underrated But it is based on karate a little, but not a lot

[@nikosmatalliotakis8893]

Tang Soo Do is actually great. Gives self confidence. Plus you know how to kick ass

[@gerardocovarrubias1127]

Sensei Seth ive chosen taekwondo itf,sanda,savate as my three kickboxing styles also sensei two things 1 sanda vs wing chun whihc is better and more effective in self defence and fighting 2 is kyokushin karate a hybrid martial art like sanda,jkd and other hybrid martiail arts

[@SenseiSeth]

Great styles!

[@gerardocovarrubias1127]

@@SenseiSeth what about my two things i told you about

[@SenseiSeth]

Kyokushin is less of a hybrid, more of a focus on one aspect (when it comes to the sport), sanda over wing chun

[@michaelterrell5061]

Well I mean all of karate comes from different styles of Kung fu and native okinowan styles, and soon Japanese influences in things like jujutsu, judo, and aikido. So all of karate is basically a bunch of hybrid styles. And kyokushin directly comes from Goju ryu, shotokan, judo, taikiken(Yi quan), shaolin Kung fu, and some other things. So yes. As for sanda vs wing chun. Sanda just means sparring and there a GREAT deal of wing chun practitioner who do it. As a matter of fact a lot of wing chun schools(in China) work with sanda to conduct sparring and produce great competition. As a matter of fact Yi long happens to have won a wing chun tournament and we know how good he is in sanda.

[@gerardocovarrubias1127]

@@SenseiSeth oh so sanda and kyokushin karate are not hybrid martial arts because i looked it up on wikipedia

[@ramondiaz2851]

Boy!! I love the way you do that hook kick!! To the face in sparring!

[@foolianoo4758]

I train tkd .. you show no love for us tkd kids but that’s okay I get it. I still love you tho Seth 😂

[@rpd7573]

Haha thats savage on TKD 😂 i got friends who are TKD guys and theyre pretty awesome sparring against. One of does Goju as well.

[@MrCageCat]

Since I was young I've always loved kicking. Wanted to do Tae Kwon Do always, but here in South Africa TKD schools are rare. Also my hips are genetically not that great. Could never kick even parallel to the floor with a sidekick while doing karate years ago (I'm 41 now), or even sit cross legged without discomfort 😔

[@SenseiSeth]

Need lots of warm ups that lead to lots of stretches!

[@MrCageCat]

@@SenseiSeth I try, but finding the time and discipline to do it on a regular basis is difficult when you're not part of a regular class with focus on stretching. Also being 41 doesn't help either...

[@oatkungar]

The reason I love muay thai is the low kick. It's so simple yet so efficient with shin conditioning it's really brutal. But bruh the taekwondo got me laugh so hard. Good video.

[@Zapinator321]

Ameridote's groin stomp is S+++++ tier

[@adamel-falou7581]

As a kyokushin karate student, I'm actually surprised for his opinion on the side kick, I personally love it because I constantly like to make myself a smaller target by standing at a 45 degree so I'm not completely sideways, but I'm not an easy target either, and the side kick is the easiest for me to perform to push my opponent back whenever they try to step in (if I want to make space). I personally really like the side kick.

[@kingartifex]

it has limited striking area of impact, does not do that much damage, requires crazy flexibility , shorter range than other kicks, and is the most unsafe kick in the world opoening up to takedowns and axing the supporting leg

[@michaeldreilinger6912]

One day we’ll get the love we deserve ❤️😢

[@joaovictormartinslima6755]

1° Capoeira 2° Taekwondo 3° Muay thai

[@barryg528]

Amazing ending 😂

[@SenseiSeth]

Lol thank you Barry 😂🙏

[@davidcastillo4487]

I did like 3 years of American kempo, 2.5 of tkd and the thing the corrected my sidekick was actually replicating Bruce lees pendulum sidekick. Cause it brings the knees inline for the sidekick. When I figured that out I stopped lifting my knee if not for some kind of faint to throw other moves.

[@IsaacLausell]

Love these videos, also the ones you did with Jesse Enkamp are awesome. I think it was a good list. Yoko Geri Keage can be quite awkward. As far as I know it was one of Funakoshi’s changes to the Shorin-Ryu or based katas such as Itosu’s Pinans. In the older forms of these Kata they would do something that looked like a front kick except that it was done to the side usually from a back stance. The motion itself does not allow for a lot of on the fly adjustment, you are kind of committed to the motion whether as with the keage version you got the kick out faster. Unfortunately Funakoshi’s writings does not seem to address with enough clarity the role of the supporting foot nor the whole kick. For example traditionally it is taught that you cannot twist your supporting foot however when kicking high with this kick depending on your level of flexibility you might hurt your knee if there is no give on your supporting foot. Then there is the issue of setting the kick. In older versions you would point at the target with you knee, later people would just pick up the leg like with Kekomi or go right into the kick. In its older context these katas depict an engagement that is much more at close range hence there Yoko Geri was more meant as a somewhat low kick to the groin or stomach due to the proximity to the implied opponent. The intro of the keage motion changes somewhat the context and distance. I have seen many substituted it in katas for Yoko Heri Kekomi which has a thrusting trajectory nonetheless it is easier to get a nice high kick out of it which folks who like to compete in katas tend to favor. As for the mechanics of it It certainly packs more power as well.

[@MichalLempicki]

100% most accurate video on the interwebs!

[@tkaid5247]

C'mon Sensei Seth, why you gonna do my style like this 😢

[@Doing_Time]

Hey, I've never studied tae kwon do, but did you see the way samuel beckett laid out those dudes without even remembering he'd studied it? That was like the 1980s and it's still stuck in my head... the antithesis of danielson's ymca karate kicks

[@ViperG2099]

Do a karate teacher reacts on god of high school

[@outlaw71]

I don't know, but this has probably already been mentioned in the comments. The Karate Yoko geri keage that you mentioned is the version of the side kick where you don't lift up your knee before executing the kick. In yoko keage you just keep your leg straight all the way through the kick. In ordinary yoko geri, you lift your knee up first. It's the same thing with Mae geri (front kick) and Mae keage. I don't want to come through as an wise ass, but wanted just to correct that "keage" term. I'm a big fan of your KZbin channel and I really like your humble way of explaining things. Osu no seishin!

[@barryg528]

Boxing

[@SenseiSeth]

Hmmm.. lol

[@barryg528]

@@SenseiSeth boxing and Bjj have the best kicking games

[@bennibilasala5236]

@@barryg528 yeah but I bjj's strengths are its punching game tbh

[@vittocrazi]

Id put those just above taekwondo

[@supremecud147]

love the vid sensei! very well made

[@srchoy]

Seth trolls Taekwondo once again. So how do you **Really** feel about TKD?