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Jack Edwards

Jack Edwards

Күн бұрын

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@caricanread
@caricanread Жыл бұрын
How did the weight of introducing Jack to Cassie Clare's fanfic days fall on MY shoulders? But really this was so much fun even tho im still very concerned for your emotional state lol :') just saw you started 'how high we go in the dark' and im worried for you hahaha
@golnazzziiii7125
@golnazzziiii7125 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't it Draco and Ginny though?
@caricanread
@caricanread Жыл бұрын
@@golnazzziiii7125 Nope, the original fic was Ron/Ginny :')
@golnazzziiii7125
@golnazzziiii7125 Жыл бұрын
@@caricanread by the angel, Cassandra Clare I love you but what the hell😂😶
@fluttergirl112
@fluttergirl112 Жыл бұрын
I laughed so loud when you explained the Ron & Ginny thing haha the look on Jacks face!
@elyssacarnecer3423
@elyssacarnecer3423 3 ай бұрын
Character dies at the end Don't end up together Villain's perspective Enemies to Lover Forbidden love Close proximity Chosen one Found family Friends to lover Fake dating Love triangle Grumpy vs sunshine
@Pompom__
@Pompom__ Жыл бұрын
The fact they only agreed on only one trope was so funny.
@marenhumblebee2736
@marenhumblebee2736 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised they would agree on anything... they have very different tastes
@leeyang3502
@leeyang3502 Жыл бұрын
I mean the chances of ranking anything exactly the same when there are this many options is pretty low. They had a few tropes in the same general area of the ranking.
@anomaliecosmos
@anomaliecosmos Жыл бұрын
And then the perfect reversal of fake dating/don't end up together (which are themselves sort of the inverse of each other)...oof 😂
@specteramber
@specteramber Жыл бұрын
The fact that you would hand out spoilers like that...
@readingbythemoon
@readingbythemoon Жыл бұрын
she’s so right, miscommunication is not enemies to lovers. enemies to lovers is where they REALLY hate each other’s guts and then start catching feelings. kinda like “i’m gonna kill you” jumps to “i’ll kill whoever hurt you” 😩 best trope
@dr.harleenquinzel4783
@dr.harleenquinzel4783 Жыл бұрын
Yea miscommunication should be a trope on its own, it shares the same idea in that both characters don’t like each other but miscommunication is the main reason
@rumi7244
@rumi7244 Жыл бұрын
Yessssssssjdbjhvbsdjbadh literally Throne of Glass
@filo4854
@filo4854 Жыл бұрын
when the cold blooded infatuation turns into genuine love UGHH 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
@antonellaromero_upc1564
@antonellaromero_upc1564 Жыл бұрын
yeah but this one is something people always get wronggg, like, it is not "rivals" nor "i dont like you", it literally has to be them trying to kill the other at least once
@thatwasverypunny.-.
@thatwasverypunny.-. Жыл бұрын
yeahhh i've definitely read miscommunication ones that i liked but it's definitely not true enemies to lovers
@sarahnoll9018
@sarahnoll9018 Жыл бұрын
“I read a lot of young adult fantasy” “I would highly recommend Boy Parts” I CACKLED
@a.a677
@a.a677 Жыл бұрын
SAME LMAOOOO
@ja8243
@ja8243 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't read fantasy😢
@jessicalukram74
@jessicalukram74 Жыл бұрын
^^ fr
@asikazoa1927
@asikazoa1927 Жыл бұрын
the fact that jack has the faking dating trope in the last and cari has that for her second favorite and at the same time cari has the don't end up together trope in the last and jack has that as his second is sooo funny
@wochenente6977
@wochenente6977 Жыл бұрын
Imagine Fake Dating, then catching feelings and realising in the en in the end that they don't work together super well and it should better stay fake
@likithaapraveen8726
@likithaapraveen8726 Жыл бұрын
​@@wochenente6977🤯
@aishashaikh5466
@aishashaikh5466 Жыл бұрын
Cari: I like characters to be happy and have fun. Jack: so the character basically takes their erotic pictures and kills them in cold blood....that one's fun.
@noonelooksatusers
@noonelooksatusers Жыл бұрын
Fiction tragedy is beautiful!!😄😄
@veronikas.7112
@veronikas.7112 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@violettbellerose1173
@violettbellerose1173 Жыл бұрын
Omg, they are the grumpy vs sunshine trope 😱😱😱
@filo4854
@filo4854 Жыл бұрын
@@violettbellerose1173 noo bc jack is literally sunshine he's just v analytical LMAOO 😭😭 it's more black cat and golden retriever but HE'S the golden retriever
@a1exneedsahamdleplease
@a1exneedsahamdleplease 10 ай бұрын
@@filo4854that kinda makes it fit more tho cause that trope is an “opposites attract” thing so it’d make sense that they’d choose books that are opposite of them. I don’t think Cari fits the grumpy character trope that well but Jack is definitely a golden retriever, like he gets all his negative emotions out through reading heart wrenching books and then only has positive emotions left over after that
@tamarabalvin3210
@tamarabalvin3210 Жыл бұрын
jack: "its forbidden because of... the law?" cari: oh my sweet summer child
@i.b.l.7665
@i.b.l.7665 Жыл бұрын
I AM SCREAMING, CRYING, THROWING UP!!! CARI AND JACK TOGETHER FEELS LIKE A FEVER DREAM I NEVER WANT TO WAKE UP FROM 😭
@jaynekernodle1280
@jaynekernodle1280 Жыл бұрын
SAME!!!! MY FAVORITES TOGETHER FOREVER PLEASE
@libra95z
@libra95z Жыл бұрын
literally meeeeee, same
@hyunjinsanity
@hyunjinsanity Жыл бұрын
FIGHTING BLEEDING LOSING (iykyk)
@anisa2273
@anisa2273 Жыл бұрын
I know right to of my favorite booktubers together in one video, I must be in Heaven!!!
@mariamariafujoshiinurarea2524
@mariamariafujoshiinurarea2524 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't stop laughing the whole video!! 😂😂 it s one of the best collaborations ever!!
@annika4989
@annika4989 Жыл бұрын
I feel like enemies-to-lovers only really works in fantasy. It’s often mislabelled and in contemporary it’s more often than not hate-to-love
@wochenente6977
@wochenente6977 Жыл бұрын
Yesss!!! Being enemies in fantasy makes sense! In contemporary it always seems silly, over the top and unrealistic. Who has the time and energy to hate their coworker with a passion? Like you two don't vibe with each other? Okay then leave each other alone then, what's so hard about that?
@carmindi5061
@carmindi5061 Жыл бұрын
Yes in real life, who would date someone who bullies you.
@jessicalukram74
@jessicalukram74 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@wordswithkay
@wordswithkay 9 ай бұрын
Good point!! Because often they are not true enemies!
@madhupriyapal7765
@madhupriyapal7765 Жыл бұрын
I Knew Jack would choose "fake dating" as the least favourite trope.. I JUST KNEW IT!!
@saniyaganiyani8912
@saniyaganiyani8912 Жыл бұрын
I can see jack laughing when he saw this comment
@hilary3219
@hilary3219 Жыл бұрын
In defense of the chosen one - the way it's done in the Percy Jackson series and the various other series by Rick Riordan - I love, because there's always a variety of solid downsides to be chosen, so it feels balanced/appropriately heartbreaking in some cases. Also, "the chosen one" varies and is often "chosen ones" so that helps too.
@sabarihariharan2005
@sabarihariharan2005 Жыл бұрын
I was about to write the exact same thing.....
@adzz21
@adzz21 Жыл бұрын
yesss! i feel like the chosen character needs to have a decent amount of depth and not just be this one -dimensional, all perfect, sort of unreal and unrelatable thing.
@alicegilelach6056
@alicegilelach6056 Жыл бұрын
i can get behind chosen ones!! it just feels so lame when there's one particular character who goes from nothing to being all-powerful (i'm looking at you acotar) but a group of powerful people is a little more interesting to me
@seolcf8247
@seolcf8247 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Percy being the chosen one is so well written is the same reason why I think Kantiss being the chosen one is so well written: Neither of them wants to be! But they are both written in a way that their morals compel them to complete what they were chosen for. So good! Two of my favorite series of all time.
@raya_chb
@raya_chb Жыл бұрын
PERCY JACKSON
@khalilahd.
@khalilahd. Жыл бұрын
This feels like a Disney channel crossover and I love it 😅 my two favorites ❤
@WeirdlyWonderfulASMR
@WeirdlyWonderfulASMR Жыл бұрын
It's weirdly interesting to see you comment on almost all the YT channels I watch XD
@noonelooksatusers
@noonelooksatusers Жыл бұрын
@@WeirdlyWonderfulASMR fr
@arinahalias
@arinahalias Жыл бұрын
@@WeirdlyWonderfulASMR haahah me too
@AaryaGhuge
@AaryaGhuge Жыл бұрын
Jack has “character dies at the end” “don’t end up together” “villain’s perspective” at the top of his list.. are u okay my man?
@vennpenn
@vennpenn Жыл бұрын
23:49 hmm
@rainestorm6029
@rainestorm6029 Жыл бұрын
I love them all, well except don't end up together
@MounyaMishra
@MounyaMishra 2 ай бұрын
Jack is same as me .. "Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West" by Gregory Maguire is my favourite book
@ishikami174
@ishikami174 Жыл бұрын
A well-written enemies to lovers trope in fantasy genre definitely tops the list for me.
@stephaniecrossman2864
@stephaniecrossman2864 Жыл бұрын
Same bestie
@eni2209
@eni2209 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any recommendations???
@rafaelaleal5542
@rafaelaleal5542 Жыл бұрын
@@eni2209 Here for the answer
@justarandomstranger2105
@justarandomstranger2105 Жыл бұрын
​@@rafaelaleal5542 sameee
@ashitakedia5814
@ashitakedia5814 Жыл бұрын
@@eni2209 the folk of the air trilogy
@zynpkrdg
@zynpkrdg Жыл бұрын
JACK EDWARDS AND CARI CAN READ TOGETHER WHAT? THIS IS THE BEST SURPRISE OF THE WEEK.
@justwonder1404
@justwonder1404 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Cari for being the voice of the readers who don't want to cry while finishing a book. Normalize liking happy endings💪 14:55 - ah, the face of a man unfamiliar with all the quirks of fantasy fandoms. Welcome to the real life son.
@_vlpin
@_vlpin Жыл бұрын
I think it's normalized already.
@Dani_77709
@Dani_77709 Жыл бұрын
The collab I never thought I needed until now
@khalilahd.
@khalilahd. Жыл бұрын
Literally same. Love this ❤
@mirirodriguez3919
@mirirodriguez3919 Жыл бұрын
RIGHT!!!!! ❤
@irisgemina1185
@irisgemina1185 Жыл бұрын
@@khalilahd. u are everywhere girl!!!
@garimachopra4007
@garimachopra4007 Жыл бұрын
OMG YES
@marenhumblebee2736
@marenhumblebee2736 Жыл бұрын
Oh I knew I needed it... I was waiting for this ever since they almost met in Paris, London and/or New York
@thatskums
@thatskums Жыл бұрын
Found family is just my all time favourite trope. It's so warm and wholesome! I am tired of toxic characters and I wanna see good people do good by each other
@Clara-yd5qo
@Clara-yd5qo 8 ай бұрын
My favorite found family book is Six of Crows ❤️
@bookoffholicbookwart5945
@bookoffholicbookwart5945 Жыл бұрын
The pain in cari's eyes when "grumpy and sunshine " came up🤣🤣🤣🤣.
@Mariamox
@Mariamox Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Raysrising
@Raysrising Жыл бұрын
Cari: "I just want peace and happiness for everyone." Jack: "You're gonna see from my list that I don't." Never have I related to Jack more... 😂 Edit: 18:34 “when I do want something to make me happy, which is rare....” I sit corrected....
@endercrafter5104
@endercrafter5104 Жыл бұрын
I love how you both put the others least favorite trope in the third spot
@jadehipditch9211
@jadehipditch9211 Жыл бұрын
haha yes this made me laugh😆
@yewosan
@yewosan Жыл бұрын
i think its hilarious that jack is literally the sunshine but only wants to suffer its like yall completely changed your personality for your book tastes lmao
@jack_edwards
@jack_edwards Жыл бұрын
we'd love to hear your ranking too! here's the list: - friends to lovers - fake dating - chosen one - forced proximity - enemies to lovers - villain's perspective - the main character dies at the end - they don't end up together - forbidden love - grumpy vs sunshine - love triangle - found family
@kingwilliamlobo
@kingwilliamlobo Жыл бұрын
Found Family (Jack go read Six of Crows rn 😭) Enemies to lovers, specifically academic rivals to lovers Villain's perspective Chosen One Forbidden Love The main character dies at the end Fake dating Grumpy vs sunshine love triangle Friends to lovers They don't end up together Force proximity
@khalilahd.
@khalilahd. Жыл бұрын
I just know enemies to lovers is in my top two lol
@creativethingsbyavani
@creativethingsbyavani Жыл бұрын
There should be a book, where strangers start fake dating, for mutual reasons, but don’t end up as romantic partners but besties
@mikhael8151
@mikhael8151 Жыл бұрын
best to worst - found family - grumpy vs sunshine - fake dating - forced proximity - enemies to lovers - friends to lovers - chosen one - the main character dies at the end - villain's perspective - love triangle - they don't end up together - forbidden love
@idontknow_whattowritesooo130
@idontknow_whattowritesooo130 Жыл бұрын
nooooo you’ve ruined my second chance at youtube fame 😭😭
@mary-kate1724
@mary-kate1724 Жыл бұрын
I think the ranking makes sense in regard of different genres. In fantasybooks Cari's favorite tropes are really nice to read and in contemporary fiction I think Jack's favorite tropes fit really well and give the books real depth.
@a1exneedsahamdleplease
@a1exneedsahamdleplease 10 ай бұрын
True, it’d be really fun to see them do a collab where they read each other’s favorite books and then talk about them
@theskydeity
@theskydeity Жыл бұрын
Cari judging Jack for his choices is my new favourite thing 😄
@thaleiagreek3566
@thaleiagreek3566 Жыл бұрын
I would like to take the time to compliment Jack on the editing! :) The graph between them really helped to illustrate what was being said and made it easier to follow along and keep up. Very well done and also kinda satisfying to watch it get filled in? :D
@WanderingManon
@WanderingManon Жыл бұрын
Jack: "I want the book to rip my heart out of my chest, throw it on the floor, stamp on it, pick it back up as confetti and throw it in my face." *Every therapist taking notes like ✍👁👄👁*
@tiararoxeanne1318
@tiararoxeanne1318 Жыл бұрын
Jack is a masochist😂
@averyfindsen3948
@averyfindsen3948 Жыл бұрын
1. Enemies to lovers (the TENSION) 2. Friends to lovers (the fear, the hope, the way they already know each other so intimately) 3. Chosen one (Percy Jackson made this feel so exciting, especially when it's done with nuance so you can see the downsides of it. Love an anti-hero flair) 4. Found family (the dream) 5. Villain's perspective (Gone Girl had me gasping, Carry On had my jaw dropped) 6. Fake dating (so fun because they have to handle all these situations) 7. Grumpy and sunshine (the comedic POTENTIAL) 8. Forced proximity (only one bed is SO GOOD. I didn't care for it in The Love Hypothesis, but it was amazing in Gentleman's Guide to Vice and Virtue, so you have to do it well. To me, it is the height of yearning and tension if done well) 9. They don't end up together (hurts me. If done well, it can be a nuanced and heartbreakingly realistic look on love and the many reasons it may not work out. If done badly, it cheapens the rest of the story, and the story itself can be boring if you see the ending coming) 10. Love triangle (I tend to like one love interest more than the other, and would appreciate the other character's airtime just going to the one I like) 11. Forbidden love (I don't know, just not that interesting to me. Maybe if it's well-written) 12. Main character dies at the end (Divergent, I'm looking at you. 0 foreshadowing, makes 0 sense for the story? Listen, if it makes sense for the story, then it's fine. Another thing, though--it drives me crazy when a character is prophesied to die, and we all know they HAVE to die at the end, and then they're brought back to life. Even if it hurts, let it hurt!!! Don't cheapen the ending!)
@ukeleleguitar2087
@ukeleleguitar2087 Жыл бұрын
I loved carry on so much!
@k11rqq
@k11rqq 9 ай бұрын
@@ukeleleguitar2087Carry On is super underrated
@Sama-yd4cl
@Sama-yd4cl Жыл бұрын
Definitely agree more with Cari’s ranking 😂 Jack’s scares me
@CynicalDuchess
@CynicalDuchess Жыл бұрын
watching cari judge you for 25 minutes was hilarious LOL
@bhavikajain6731
@bhavikajain6731 Жыл бұрын
I agree almost a lot with cari's list, while ripping my hair out even though I knew Jack's top trope would include character dying or people not ending up together
@creativivi8
@creativivi8 Жыл бұрын
the way Cari just wants everyone in the books to live happily ever after and Jack is like no, give me all the tears and heart-wrench 😂 i ADORE both of you, thanks for this awesome collab :) ❤
@cosmic.elixir
@cosmic.elixir Жыл бұрын
Two of my favourite comfort people doing a collab is definitely something i wanted AND needed This is a treat. Thank you very much
@Jenny-rn3ic
@Jenny-rn3ic Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, most enemies to lovers are just hater's to lovers. I consider Enemies as two people who would want to physically hurt each other. Not just hate them because they said something stupid years ago. I really love seeing them actually want to hurt each other to later on hurt the world, because their lover got hurt.
@bookoffholicbookwart5945
@bookoffholicbookwart5945 Жыл бұрын
Been a fan of cari for the past 3&1/2 years, and Jack's about 3 years. This video is a gem
@itskatie7114
@itskatie7114 Жыл бұрын
cari: have you read a fake dating book before? jack: no five mins later cari: have you read the love hypothesis jack: yes make it make sense
@vennpenn
@vennpenn Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too but considering it’s one of his least favorite it just probably doesn’t come to mind unless mentioned
@bookoffholicbookwart5945
@bookoffholicbookwart5945 Жыл бұрын
The energy this video has is radiating across continents.
@luiiiandmovieee
@luiiiandmovieee Жыл бұрын
A really good enemies to lovers book is six of crows (Nina & Matthias). They have a reason to be enemies and they take time to understand each other's point of view. Also a great example for grumpy sunshine couple. And this whole book is a great example for found family.
@Clara-yd5qo
@Clara-yd5qo 8 ай бұрын
Bro literally my favorite fantasy books evrr
@Chopz_Art
@Chopz_Art Жыл бұрын
I knew Jack would choose "the main character dies at the end" and "villain's perspective" as his favorite tropes! those are my favs too... that's why I always buy books that Jack recommends. 🧡🧡🧡
@anika1200
@anika1200 Жыл бұрын
heyyy do u know in which vids he recommended those books ?? I love those tropes too and it's so hard since "the mc dies at the end" is literally a spoiler in itself 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Chopz_Art
@Chopz_Art Жыл бұрын
@@anika1200 hey, I think in "10 sad books that made me sob" video he recommends bunch of books that mc die at the end. and there are several videos that he recommends the books that belongs to those tropes, but I don't exactly remember what those vids are.. ☺
@jeeranko3359
@jeeranko3359 Жыл бұрын
This is hilarious! Jack is a cinnamon roll who wants to pose as a tough villain, and Cari is just too sweet and wishes everyone happiness❤
@Hippolyta.
@Hippolyta. Жыл бұрын
This was such a good idea since Cari and Jack have such different reading tastes
@rjapeth1022
@rjapeth1022 Жыл бұрын
What I've learned from this video 1) Jack doesn't like to be happy 2) Me and Cari's rankings are practically the same (except switch forbidden love and found family) :)
@pradnya-uj4iq
@pradnya-uj4iq Жыл бұрын
One of the best collab Jack has ever done!
@wolfgang7709
@wolfgang7709 Жыл бұрын
When talking about love triangles, I think the term Cari might have been thinking of is "love corner". One character backed into a corner and has to "choose" who to be with.
@Yenris
@Yenris Жыл бұрын
Ladies and Gentlemen, the collab we have all been waiting for😭 my two favorite book tubers in one video I’m so happy right now
@ChloeS_dawnsbroken
@ChloeS_dawnsbroken Жыл бұрын
Cari's reaction to Jack when he enthusiastically pulls out "they don't end up together" 😭😭😭😭 Jack: riiighttt?? Cari: .. Jack: no? Cari: NO.
@Dat1person_
@Dat1person_ Жыл бұрын
i deff have more similar taste in books as cari but i would absolutely LOVE a friend like jack to discuss these things with bc it would be so much more interesting to learn about with a different pov!! also jacks list still made a lot of sense to me so in general i think he’d be like one of the best people to get them if i wanted different tropes to read🫶🏼🫶🏼
@readorperetz
@readorperetz Жыл бұрын
if anyone is curious here is the combined ranking between jack and cari's placings from this video (the numbers in the parathesis are for the spots added up so top spot is #1 and bottom spot is #12, and 1 + 12 added up would be 13 etc.): 1. enemies to lovers (7) 2. found family (10) 3. friends to lovers (10) 4. villains perspective (10) 5. grumpy sunshine (11) 6. forbidden love (12) 7. character dies at the end (12) 8. they don't end up together (12) 9. fake dating (15) 10. chosen one (18) 11. love triangle (18) 12. forced proximity (19)
@hannahhurd1592
@hannahhurd1592 Жыл бұрын
"When I do want something to make me happy- which is rare" too good
@mariri-510
@mariri-510 Жыл бұрын
MY TWO FAVE BOOKTUBERS IN A COLLAB I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF...
@thaleiagreek3566
@thaleiagreek3566 Жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree with Jacks list. Characters dying at the end is a sure fire way to get me to rate a book higher. A book made me sob and cry? That's 5 stars, baby!
@meatybro9
@meatybro9 Жыл бұрын
Cari is sunshine and Jack's mignight rain.
@selena311lol
@selena311lol Жыл бұрын
This is literally my two types of book tastes collaborating together 😂 love this so much. I’ve gotten recs from both channels frequently.
@sksn8200
@sksn8200 Жыл бұрын
"a love angle" lmao that's true actually, i love that
@groofay
@groofay Жыл бұрын
This is a collab I never thought would happen, but I love it. I get both sides of the "don't end up together" argument, just because His Dark Materials absolutely wrecked me in high school.
@terejovemiro
@terejovemiro Жыл бұрын
The video might be grumpy and sunshine trope as she loves sunshine books and jack just wants pain. So fun to watch!
@gisel9473
@gisel9473 Жыл бұрын
Cari’s face during your “don’t end up together” explanation is priceless! I’ll definitely be watching your videos and following!
@yacoutg3304
@yacoutg3304 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree, somehow BAWLING your eyes out when reading a book is just sooo satisfying hahahaha. My favorite trope is also when a character dies at the end, or at least when the characters suffer misfortunes. That just hurts me so much it's enjoyable. I guess katharsis is real lol
@anansya
@anansya Жыл бұрын
my two favourite booktubers omg
@elviratraore962
@elviratraore962 Жыл бұрын
Jack and Cari doing a collaboration was not on my 2023 bingo, but I could not be happier
@sarahmccoy8339
@sarahmccoy8339 Жыл бұрын
I loved ranking along with you guys. Here's my list. 1. chosen one 2. villains perspective 3. Forbidden love 4. friends to lovers 5. love triangle 6. found family 7. enemies to lovers 8. forced proximity 9. character dies at the end 10. don't end up together 11. grumpy sunshine 12. fake dating
@stuckonthepuzzle
@stuckonthepuzzle Жыл бұрын
Yours is the best!
@charlie6673
@charlie6673 Жыл бұрын
This would be my list. Even though Jack and Cari were talking about books, I'm also thinking of other media like series, movies, etc. Admittedly, almost any trope I like can be found in Avatar: The Last Airbender. 1. Found Family I really agree with what Jack was saying. This trope will never get old for me, I love reading it always. 2. Grumpy vs Sunshine Even though I do agree that this can make characters somewhat one dimensional, I think that that mostly applies when the author sets out to write this trope. I like this trope when it comes naturally to the characters. I feel like there is just something so moving and beautiful about two characters coming together who are so different but come together and balance each other out. An example of this, though not romantic but platonic, would be Mai and Ty Lee from atla for me. Also, Nico di Angelo and Will Solace!! 3. Friends to lovers This trope has a reputation of being boring, but I really disagree. I think love is built on friendship, and the relationships that start out with being friends are the strongest. Plus, this trope gives you so much angst and comfort. 4. Enemies/ rivals to lovers For me, there are multiple facets to this. Firstly, I almost want to change this trope to "enemies to friends (maybe to lovers)." I think enemies to lovers can be amazing, but only if executed very carefully and written very well. Often, there are power dynamics at play that, for me at least, can make this uncomfortable to read fairly easily. This is why I'm saying that it would be better to first progress to friends, then maybe to lovers (this is also why imo friends to lovers is superior). I am, of course, thinking of Zuko and his progression to being friends with the gaang. Something that is very uncomfortable to me is the "who did this to you" trope (but I know lots of people like this, sorry) 5. Villain's perspective I don't think I've read enough books with this trope to judge this incredibly well, but I agree with Jack that it is super interesting to get insight into a mind so different from your own. I do think that this is very difficult to write properly though, since (imo) you have to find a balance between making the character somewhat understandable (if not relatable) but maintaining the character as villain. Furthermore, Zuko and Azula. 6. Forbidden Love Ngl, I love this trope. It's fun to read. However, I feel like it's a bit overdone and can easily venture into overdramatic. I also sometimes feel like straight people just make up scenarios so they can feel what it would be like to be oppressed in this regard, and that bothers me. 7. Forced proximity The "there's only one bed trope" is definitely overdone, but I still think it's fun (at least in fanfiction; if I bought a whole book and there was this trope I might not like it as much). But I think when you think further than that, this trope can be amazing. It can force two people from different walks of life or with opposing philosophies together and make them confront their differences and find common ground. I do feel like it can be difficult to find a set up for this that doesn't in itself feel forced. 8. Character death I don't like this trope when it is just used to upset the reader. But when it makes sense with the story and conveys a deeper message (even when the deeper message is that there is no deeper message, like with Fred in Harry Potter (fuck JKR)), then it hurts like a bitch, but it really makes you think about life and death in an interesting way. 9. Fake dating I think this one's fun. Again, for me this is more of a fanfiction-type trope and less of a -I'm-going-out-and-buying-a-book trope. Even though it's true that you pretty much know the ending from the start, I don't think that's a problem at all. For me, this trope is the definition of "it's about the journey, not the destination." I love reading about the character's inner journey. Coming to the realization that they like this other person, having to navigate conflicting feelings, battling inner demons. Plus, so much yearning, like Cari said! 10. They don't end up together Ultimately, I like reading happy endings 95% of the time. It makes me happy and relieves stress. But sometimes those books or shows that just make you reflect on life and the different paths that people take, it can be really good. Especially since I love reading about the inner journeys of people (CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT) and this can be a signifier that they choose their own happiness over what would be easiest or please the other person. Imo one of the best examples of this are Alexis and Ted from Schitt's Creek. 11. Chosen one Overdone, unrealistic, but can be good. In avatar, I like that being the "chosen one" contrasts with what Aang wants, which makes this a huge conflict in the series. So even though I do dislike this trope most of the time, when done right, it can result in some of the best pieces of fiction I have ever consumed. 12. Love angle Yes, I am specifying love angle, because for me, a love triangle would be much more interesting. I don't have much to say to this - I think it's overdone, boring, and playing on dynamics between men and women that I'm just not a fan of at all. I would be curious to know if anyone agrees with my list!
@brittainxgoffy7989
@brittainxgoffy7989 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE it when the mc dies. When they know they're going to die, or at least be in danger of it, they always say and do things they never would've under normal circumstances. It can show their devotion to what they love, or explore their perspective of death, etc.
@mar0112
@mar0112 Жыл бұрын
THE KING AND QUEEN OF BOOKTUBE UNITED OMG !!
@myweakness1883
@myweakness1883 Жыл бұрын
Carrie's face when Jack explains the plot of books with a villain's perspective 😂 I can't
@me-pe9ug
@me-pe9ug Жыл бұрын
Me, devoting my life to judging books tropes and Jack aiding me in my journey 🛐
@hellazein
@hellazein Жыл бұрын
Two almost opposite lists with two different perspectives 😆 you guys are a work of art
@luhsea
@luhsea Жыл бұрын
Love this collab! My ranking (from fave to least fave): - Enemies to lovers - Villain’s perspective - Forced proximity - Found family - Forbidden love - Grumpy vs sunshine - Fake dating - Friends to lovers - They don’t end up together - Love triangle - The main character dies at the end
@alexandraoliveira1737
@alexandraoliveira1737 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or Jack should read a Cassandra Clare book?
@CherryCheetah
@CherryCheetah Жыл бұрын
When the book ending rips my heart out I hate it, I love it and I hate how much I love it - those are the most memorable. While I usually prefer happy endings, I always admire when the author doesn't hold back and delivers a gut punch at the end of their story.
@kylieboring7059
@kylieboring7059 7 ай бұрын
watching this has made me realize how similar my tastes are to yours! i love the death trope, villain's perspective, when the couple doesn't end up together, etc. i just LOVE unsatisfying pieces of media tbh
@Ryusevi
@Ryusevi Жыл бұрын
I'm more on the "I like to suffer" side of things, I agree with a lot of Jack's preferences and even the reasons.
@ToriSpringStan
@ToriSpringStan Жыл бұрын
CARI AND JACK!!! quite literally a match made in heaven
@dew7946
@dew7946 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD ARE U KIDDING ME LITERALLY TWO OF THE FEW BOOKTUBERS I FOLLOW MAKE A VIDEO TOGETHERRR
@aliasalgado3547
@aliasalgado3547 Жыл бұрын
Cari trying to keep a straight face in the beginning is so funny to me. If I finish a book and I don't feel like an empty shell of a person for the following week, was it even worth reading?
@bellechristina7531
@bellechristina7531 Жыл бұрын
collab of the year omg this was so fun to watch
@lilystoyanova4900
@lilystoyanova4900 Жыл бұрын
coming from a non-romantic: love: 1. found family - my comfort 2. villain's perspective - love reading the thought process of bad people (expept for when it goes into perverted territory), for example Diary of a murderer & in general villian pov chapters in fantasy 3. they don't end up together - I love the 'it was a good meaningful time of my life, thank you, in a way I'll lways love you' vibe, my fave romance k-dramas have that like: 4. the main character dies at the end 5. forbidden love - not my favourite aspect but can make it really fun (daughter of smoke and bone for example) 6. chosen one - don't mind it at all meh: 7. love triangle 8. forced proximity 9. enemies/rivals to lovers - lotor and alura (voltron) made me like it for a day but I've never read/seen anything where they actually end up together, I liked agonizing about whether it's pure gaslighting and it was yay dislike: 10. grumpy vs sunshine - I don't like sunshine characters 11. fake dating - cringy scenes 12. friends to lovers - be romantically interested from the start or stay as a good deep friendship pleeease
@randomninya1616
@randomninya1616 Жыл бұрын
love how u both had almost different picks 😭😭
@KayMarieClair
@KayMarieClair Жыл бұрын
This actually sealed the deal for me that I will be taking my future book recommendations from Jack because we have the exact same likes for tropes. I normally don't like taking into consideration other peoples recommendations but with this tiered list of preferences I know what drives him as a reader and therefore feel safe taking his recommendations literally. I think all booktubers should do this to attract the right audience. Sold! Also loved the respectful discussion between opposing opinions.
@adaflorea96
@adaflorea96 Жыл бұрын
My 2 favorite booktubers meeting and making a video together???? This can't be real 😳😳😍😍😍
@aphrolois
@aphrolois Жыл бұрын
The way I wanted to kiss Jack through my screen when he chose fake dating. I absolutely DESPISE this trope with a burning passion. And this is why his book recommendations never disappoint me.
@natalhab
@natalhab Жыл бұрын
When you mentioned a education enemies to lovers, I laughed because I wasn't the most studious so would be very difficult to be my rival/enemy, but them I thought how fun would be to read about two people sabotaging each other so they aren't the worst in class
@gifttohumanity6641
@gifttohumanity6641 10 ай бұрын
Jack‘s order is pretty close to mine, I think that’s why I trust his recommendations so much
@fleurdalizee6
@fleurdalizee6 Жыл бұрын
This is why I always like Cari's recommendations. I want all the positive feels!
@spoorthisudini9173
@spoorthisudini9173 Жыл бұрын
Best book collaboration ever!
@aindrilamallick4217
@aindrilamallick4217 Жыл бұрын
Being a bookworm I really needed this kind of video . I really enjoyed this video . Please make more content like this in future 😃. Thank you for providing this kind of content for the book lovers like us 😄 .
@onewayoranother1D
@onewayoranother1D Жыл бұрын
AHHHHH. THE ABSOLUTE DUO I NEEDED.
@jazzandbooks
@jazzandbooks Жыл бұрын
"When I do want something that's going to make me happy.....which is rare" *I FEEL*
@mintygreen9593
@mintygreen9593 Жыл бұрын
NOT MY TWO FAVE BOOK KZbinRS IN A VIDEO TOGETHER OMGGG
@ninja_boy
@ninja_boy Жыл бұрын
I didn't think I liked "character dies at the end' much until I read "Spring Snow" by Yukio Mishima. Maybe one of the most beautiful endings in any book ever.
@mattmack7102
@mattmack7102 Жыл бұрын
ive read a little bit of Mishima, how would you compare it to his other work?
@ninja_boy
@ninja_boy Жыл бұрын
It might be my personal favorite so far; I think it’s on par with The Temple of the Golden Pavilion and Runaway Horses.
@charkelley
@charkelley Жыл бұрын
cackling at the aggressively respectful disagreement throughout
@carajohnson2346
@carajohnson2346 Жыл бұрын
MY TWO FAVE BOOKTUBERS TOGETHER????
@MiSsJoOnY12
@MiSsJoOnY12 Жыл бұрын
Cari is literally is my book taste in the most precious human ever i trust every book she recommends cause like her i cant read books where the main character dies i can never survive that I need everyone to be happy
@anneliesehope3189
@anneliesehope3189 Жыл бұрын
Not my two favorite KZbinrs in the SAME VIDEO omg... this was fantastic ❤ So, my sister and I have had extensive conversations about tropes in books/movies, and the one conclusion we come to each time is that it ALWAYS depends on how it's done. I also despise tropes that only exist in the very first part of the book and don't hold weight throughout it because that basically makes the trope(s) completely useless in the first place. For example, I love the enemies to lovers/rivals to lovers trope, but if their issues are resolved within the first part of the book then it doesn't really matter that they were enemies/lovers at all. I think that applies to many different tropes, as well. Either way, I love that you can totally tell Cari and Jack's book styles through their rankings lol. As I watch both all the time, I love that their rankings were almost completely expected, which was really cute. And personally, I'm much more on Cari's side with the rankings- and Jack you are sick for ranking the top trope the main character dies at the end 😂💀 Great video! ❤
@elieli2893
@elieli2893 Жыл бұрын
Found family is just genuinely so heartwarming, my favorite!
@Lara_Ameen
@Lara_Ameen Жыл бұрын
I love this collab and ranked tropes. This is so much fun! Enemies to lovers, fake dating, hurt/comfort, and opposites attract are some of my favorite tropes!
@generousss
@generousss Жыл бұрын
how can you guys be so different yet so alike? i'm in love with this duo 😭💓
@avni8277
@avni8277 Жыл бұрын
25 minutes and 3 seconds of Jack rethinking how he should present himself in polite company 😂😂
@shree7340
@shree7340 9 ай бұрын
Wonderful video. I mostly aligned with Jack's choices more.
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