RANKING EVERY OSU! TABLET

In today's video I'm ranking every osu! tablet, for the most part, to conclude my thoughts on the tablets once and for all..
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Coffee gaming

[@Dammy_yt]

all the mouse players: this means nothing, but i'll watch anyway

[@Ben-wr8ii]

As a mouse player I approve

[@eggbrgr]

( ꈍᴗꈍ)

[@Reggat]

i managed to get 6.2* 6min jump map to B xd That's my 2nd 6* map

[@peretrex4881]

Mouse player approves

[@starcubey]

Wacom CTE-450: Allow me to introduce myself.

[@kiowo9006]

Imagine using a tablet - The mouse players

[@halob11]

Yes I was just about to comment imagine using a tablet

[@multyrain]

touchscreen players

[@itsrezzy4263]

Mouse only player gang

[@alvitodev]

touchpad only player gang

[@SHRIIMPSUCKS]

shoe only player gang

[@nat3619]

Just bought my 472 yesterday based off of you, hope i enjoy it!

[@TheProDdigy]

You def will, I upgraded from a G640 and it's night and day. Thanks, KoiFishu!

[@duccline]

@@TheProDdigy imagine upgrading from the 420

[@nlgamer779gaming2]

I actually ordered the 472 yesterday and got it today, (me with 0 experience with tablets) within the first hour i was hitting better jumps, but still need to get used to it alot

[@nikacadoallahcado6135]

@@duccline I upgraded from the 420 to a 472 lmao

[@duccline]

@@nikacadoallahcado6135 i so wish i could do that

[@absurdpotato4004]

The H420 is amazing. You can use it as a mouse pad

[@kanecitizen]

but it's absurdly tiny though so a mediocre one at that

[@Riyoe]

quality comment

[@TheIneedneam2_]

I'm in his walls he's gonna have to get top play with h420

[@r43t67gewbyt5ewabt]

I use H420 and I never felt any problems so

[@kanari-]

​​@@kanecitizenno problem for a SEA gamer

[@RandmAnimal]

funny to see that my tablet has it’s own tier

[@-Foxune]

goose!

[@SHRIIMPSUCKS]

@@-Foxune goose

[@-Foxune]

@@SHRIIMPSUCKS shrimp

[@lennardhaack]

same dude XD

[@onezeee]

same. honestly i dont totally get all the hate for the h420. yeah its bad but im using the wireless p80 replacement pen and its gonestly pretty decent. i mean ofc dont buy one theres better optiond for the same price, but if you have one laying around(like me) it can still work pretty ok

[@Rezeee]

Don't you hate it when you make a tablet for people to draw on their computer digitally, But instead it gets known as a tablet for a Circle clicking game that is full of Anime and Japanese music and Weebs.

[@SHRIIMPSUCKS]

it all went left what drawing are they doing? drawing a smiley face before the song starts?

[@davidxyoung]

ive been trying to find a comment like this, it truly does make me a little pissed, especially when they call it an “osu tablet”

[@Votaru]

Hey at least when it get known from osu they got more sales kek

[@davidxyoung]

@@Votaru when it comes to wacom, they dont need more sales, they are a big company thats made too many sales to count, i highly doubt they need sales from idiot kids playing a circle game

[@mti4601]

is this sarcasm? cuz this feels too personal lol

[@weedchannel6117]

CTL-480: Who are you ? CTL-480 Limited 30th Anniversary Model Ichitaro: I'm you but red

[@conejorejo8498]

FGSky: allow me to introduce myself

[@talentlesscommenter1329]

Pillow is the only good playstyle

[@durphin]

Bought my first tablet, started playing with it thought it was alright. Turns out my tablet is H420.

[@BootjeBodhi]

Lmaoo same, wanna test a good one now tbh

[@commitx1744]

That was my first tablet I just use a gaoman s620 now

[@whxii]

nice patchouli

[@airingtonjesse6691]

i used the h420 for 2 years with a hawku drivers didn't think it was bad but it finally died so gotta get another tablet XD

[@mkrmaa472]

@@airingtonjesse6691 same, i think i will buy another tablet

[@shiruox_]

As someone who plays with a CTL-490, it's true that if you hover you'll have like 30 tons of hardware smoothing, but it's not as awful if you drag and lift it a little bit, it's actually quite usable

[@legend131000]

I own a 460,471,472 and a 490. I can tell you that even dragging on the 490 feels feels insanely bad compared to the other three. (I'm a drag player.)

[@shiruox_]

@@legend131000 that's subjective I guess(? Also, I wasn't talking about the dragging experience, since I've got no other tablets to compare to, I was talking about how the hardware smoothing wasn't as bad as Koi made it look like, cuz the way he talked about it made it seem like Tap+X was impossible but, at least in my experience it isn't

[@mmpannukakkua]

But with the wacom software u can change the settings with how close the pen needs to be for input

[@thomasdawe1837]

I quit playing for a while and sold my veteran 480, when I came back only 490s were for sale, I went from 300pp scores to 100. Probably some of that is due to getting older but now I play with a 4100 and whilst I'm not getting much better, I'm not getting worse.

[@xchiefdeltax228]

What about BTMC’s tablet? comes with a baguette pen.

[@CharlesHydronium]

he was tapping with the baguette, not aiming with it

[@nacoose1157]

@@CharlesHydronium r/woooosh

[@turtlelord1238]

@@nacoose1157 I'm pretty sure tat wasn't woosh momento

[@yay8623]

@@nacoose1157 this is not a woosh and not a subreddit either

[@OrcaPlushie]

@@CharlesHydronium it’s almost like he was making a joke or something

[@ryanpanzarino7335]

i cant believe ive been using an f tier tablet this entire time who wouldve thought

[@mokow2991]

Rip

[@shark20069]

My tablet got it own tier :'(

[@SHRIIMPSUCKS]

lmao im using a c tier tablet

[@vaeger2947]

Yea my s56k has dead spaces after a year or two of use

[@clarity4912]

my tablet isn’t even on the board

[@Yokkayy]

I feel very, very validated watching this. I'm moving into mid 5*s with my 420. It's served me well until this point but as the jumps get faster and further I'm really starting to notice I spend more time wondering why my aim is so off and going back to 4*s to correct it than spending any amount of time continuing to improve. So many maps in this range I've played with 99%+ and 1 miss, or 2 misses and I just don't feel like I was off. I'm not a perfect player but I really am considering upgrading from the 420 after watching this and I don't feel like I'm lacking skill as much as I did before.

[@Walter_]

Hey i had sort of the same experience but instead with the 30€ wacom pen tablet. It basically could not register the speed of movements that start at around 5.5 star. In my case i quit the game since i didn't really like the game enough.

[@ADD3m4n]

video idea: "Playing legendary osu tracks with the tablet from that year"

[@trueyeskada8085]

as someone who was just looking for a tablet, this is extremely helpful

[@krbraveofficial]

honestly I just went for the gaomon s620 it's pretty cheap, pretty good, don't know about hardware smoothing but it works with open tablet driver plus it is widely used already personally I think the gaomon s620 is a good beginner tablet you can always upgrade to a more expensive tablet but it is the best cheap tablet I know and basically as good as the classic wacom a lot of people use

[@MissingMeep]

Yeah I use the S620, as it was cheap, and it worked overall. I didn't even bother with the hawku driver as the basic one worked great for me

[@krbraveofficial]

@@MissingMeep basic works ok, hawku can work with a lot of trouble but not recommended , open tablet driver works natively (I believe) with the s620 and it's great I am using that driver and it defiantly is better than the standard drivers and less hassle to set up then hawku

[@MissingMeep]

@@krbraveofficial oh that could be nice. I was putting out that it works great even without intensive setup for a 3rd party driver

[@St4rStormy]

@@krbraveofficial I'm thinking about buying the s620 rn, after 7 months do you recommend it?

[@DixeyDo]

I upgraded from Veikk S640 to CTL 472 3 weeks ago and the difference is huge, I'm improving faster than ever

[@abrarlabibrayan6780]

What is the exact name of the CTL 472

[@DixeyDo]

@@abrarlabibrayan6780 Wacom One CTL 472

[@DixeyDo]

It's been around 2 years since I wrote my comment, I was rank 300k back then I think, now 58k, still using this tablet and it's still great

[@abrarlabibrayan6780]

@@DixeyDo is it the small one because my country has only the small one available

[@DixeyDo]

@@abrarlabibrayan6780 yeah most players use the small one including me

[@eribetra]

KoiFishu: RANKING EVERY OSU! TABLET Mouse players: lmao imagine using a tablet

[@ThierryBasseto]

touch players: lol imagine using mouse

[@lilycutie727]

Windows players:lmao imagine playing on Mac using wine and default drivers

[@Mistful]

Non osu players: lmao imagine clicking circles

[@lilycutie727]

Elite beat agents players:lmao imagine playing a ripoff of elite beat agents

[@betaii5569]

eye tracker players: lol imagine using your hands

[@Baylow]

as an xp-pen g640s user i am a bit depressed to hear it has hardware smoothing. on the other hand, this is super useful information for when i get an upgrade

[@sbsbz5509]

apparently in its software you can edit something it makd a change

[@leagued3832]

If you like the tablet. You can order from XP's website. You get to select whether you want the Rev-A or Rev-B.

[@loughs6789]

i’m new but i remember being like “oh wait tablets are good? i have a tablet i could use it” and now i know that my cth-480 that i’ve had since 2013 or so is kinda cool edit: it was u that helped me find out that the 480 is the one that all the top players have and that it’s rare so tysm

[@fortnitegamer-ph5jg]

I got a CTL-472 last year, it's okay... but I'd love a cth-480 like very much, since the 472 is soo used now, it was before I could keep my stuff and not break everything..

[@versi.a]

its not rare lmao

[@Glaucusz]

@@versi.a Can you help me find people selling it? I cant find it anymore.

[@corruptcentral7992]

Coke it is, hence the increasing price, it was like 70-80 2 years ago, now u can’t find it under 120+...

[@fezzes428]

ExCord the 480 is hard to find and expensive because its THE osu tablet. just look for the bamboo (or the ctl-471 depending on where you live, its the same thing) got mine for $40 on fb marketplace

[@MagusApex]

What a helpful video on getting a new tablet for my digi-art, plus you get to watch a guy clicking circles

[@watermelon_0182]

Unironic 420 user: "So that's why I've been struggling"

[@lennardhaack]

FR hahahaha

[@flopsik]

I use one, and I'm pretty good with it

[@Yammak3]

The first and only tablet I've ever bought is the G640S, I never realized how big the tablet is along with the pen, I never noticed the chalkboard because I hover so wow, it's proven to be really good if you get used to it, although I might have to buy a new one because I keep slipping with the size and weight of the pen, thanks Koi :)

[@Beariiee]

Koi: Basically roasting the Wacom 490 about pressing and hover Me, Who has like 4 and a half years playing with that tablet with hover: *Chuckles* i'm in danger

[@biggestdawg800]

mfw i dont notice the smoothing anyway because I use high sens

[@imiyve]

yeah i didnt notice anything tbh maybe bc i just dont know since ive only had the 490 for 10 years

[@jznh7718]

When they say the H420 is bad but you have the normal 420, yessir

[@mfy0108]

Thanks to this video, now I consider a possibility of purchasing wacom cte 450. It looks so clean, I'm also a lover of a bit thicker pens, definitely not recent wacom's ones. But 4100 is also good, I love the grip on a pen.

[@TwillerdogInc]

Just realized I've been using a 490 while hovering. That's not good.

[@mourningstaaaar]

Yeah I used a 490 for the longest and then bought me a 472. It’s great!!

[@TheAmazingShadow]

i didn't know it was bad till this video

[@cokeinjector7811]

Wondered where he’d place mine, turns out it’s literally the first one. I have no excuses

[@fortnitegamer-ph5jg]

same, but instead of cth-480 to ctl-472 I'd love the opposite, because my tablet feels a bit used now and I can not destroy everything now

[@dracok.9436]

Bruh i bought my 472 like last week and i'm so in love with it lol, it's crazy how big the improvement was, like, i've never even touched a tablet and i improved soo much, now i know why most people use tablet and why the 472 is so recommended and you like it so much

[@Tr-zd7tm]

i got a 4100 and i never knew how the feel of it held up to other tablets because it’s really rare to find on youtube but this makes me happy is definitely recommend it, it works with all drivers i’ve found and has a really good refresh rate and is super responsive

[@MiorineOsu]

It is very hard to discern how good your tablet is when having nothing else to compare to, but the CTL-4100 is actually one of the lowest in terms of refresh rate (rps), and has abhorrently bad and inconsistent hardware smoothing whenever the tablet thinks you are hovering. I used a CTL-4100 for a while, and the improvement was huge when switching to a CTH-470. The 4100 is better than an H420 and such, but it really isn't something you want to be using if your main goal is osu.

[@Tr-zd7tm]

@@MiorineOsu it’s refresh rate is the same as the CTH480 (130)

[@MiorineOsu]

​@@Tr-zd7tm Both are 133rps, which is pretty much the lowest you can get on a tablet, except for the older Wacoms that had 100rps. Pro-model Wacoms have 200rps with no smoothing, and a lot of other brands have even higher advertised rps (usually around 266rps), although every single one of those non-Wacom tablets has hardware smoothing of some kind, and there is evidence to support that the rps is interpolated anyways, so they are terrible options for osu. Tablet rps is pretty much irrelevant anyways since they use absolute positioning and your cursor will always be exactly where you are aiming on each report cycle, but I'd certainly not call Wacom's standard 133rps "good." It is adequate, and it doesn't really matter for actual usage, but it is about as slow as you can get on a tablet.

[@codylove1331]

I'm a new osu! player and I bought the 472 as my first tablet because of your videos and I absolutely love it!!

[@natehartman5643]

ranking every osu mouse when

[@krakenskull262]

I just bought a 472 and I hadn’t seen any reviews on it (other than Amazon) and I am glad to know I bought a good tablet! Very good review.

[@lotus619]

Capital O I the title? YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NOW BUDDY.

[@pjm-zu7jw]

* stronk pepe punch *

[@zeldaxrd3039]

When you watch the video after already ordering a G430 S….Yeah I maybe should’ve looked at this first.

[@Nepty]

i’ve been using the 480 for years since i also use it for art... i was so shocked to find it at F since i never saw any issues with it and i hover with it 24/7

[@jonathand3842]

You mean 490 right

[@Nepty]

@@jonathand3842 yes i meant that lol

[@iatepoop6121]

got myself a gaomon s620 and im just a beginner and i’ve been doing so good with it, no problems with it at all except the buttons but im happy with it!

[@ThatLadAndre]

you know, i used to use the Huion 420 for the memes, but at this point i'm willing to get better at the game just to spite everyone.

[@SHRIIMPSUCKS]

lmao that was my reason to get a 420 but never did and got a 430 instead but I do plan on buying a 420 at some point

[@fuyunu]

A note about the CTL-4100 that I didn't hear Koi mention and may be useful - the hover distance is much lower than that of the 480 or the 472 (it's like 7mm iirc) so, if you consider the 4100, keep that in mind. edit - I guess I never noticed the actual hover distance on my tablet :P

[@MiorineOsu]

The CTL-4100 has a max hover distance of about 16mm which is exactly on par with the 480. The 472 actually has a lower max hover distance at around 14.5mm, but such a difference barely matters. If you’re getting the 7mm from the listed specs Wacom gives, that is never accurate in real-world use. But regardless, I’d still not buy a 4100 because of the hardware smoothing, especially if you intend to hover.

[@bahaaabouezzeddine3038]

what about the hardware smoothing? is it bad?

[@-ruubi-7270]

thank you for this tier list! im happy to see my gaomon s620 up there, I bought it when you originally reviewed it ^ ^

[@dungmobi80]

how is it? do you like it?

[@-ruubi-7270]

@@dungmobi80 yep! I think it's the best tablet for osu in its price range

[@dungmobi80]

@@-ruubi-7270 yo thanks bro

[@kyoreos4790]

This just adds more fuel to my dream that I commented on, "The ULTIMATE osu! tablet comparison" video.

[@danielobrien1137]

I think the Veikk deserves at least a B tier, with the hawku drivers and using the filters, you can make it super playable and the smoothing doesn't exist anymore.

[@Wisoven]

5:47 Longevity-wise, my Huion H950P lasted a year and a half before becoming almost non-functional. Disconnecting every 5 seconds and it wasn't even wireless. It has its pros and cons, but mostly cons. Not the Huion you're talking about though so yeah

[@ironwario9184]

Me realizing that I couldn't get used to tablet because I have a 490:

[@jrixis]

When I saw my tablet (490) was ranked F, I started searching for a 480 and now considering the 472 as it is affordable. This made me found the difference between drag and hovering on the 490 and tried putting tape on the pen nib and it felt really responsive but I usually scroll through maps with my pen so it feels weird. At the end I might as well buy a new tablet. Thanks KoiFishu :)

[@pasi123567]

Get the 472. It is like the 480 but less shaky

[@jrixis]

@@pasi123567 Will do, thanks for letting me know :D

[@ggez4900]

"No hes on the Wacom" very wholesome moment

[@dredgenstorm8941]

love your content, you've got me started on playing osu and im absolutely hooked. keep up the god tier content love you dude.

[@quasihornet3516]

@@yaboku122 furry + op got ratioed

[@yellowberryHN]

I have very little experience in this regard, however, I have personally owned two H420 tablets, and then a G640 Rev-A (from before the different ones exists) and then a G640 Rev-B as my most recent one. Also, I feel like it's worth it to mention, I play hover and use OpenTabletDriver, so YMMV. In my personal experience, I've actually had less problems and a better experience with the Rev-B compared to the Rev-A, as my Rev-A had some serious issues while hovering, even with the stock drivers, where if you pressed any pen button while hovering, it would temporarily displace the cursor. From what I've seen thusfar with my Rev-B, it's still an issue occasionally, but it does appear to be a lot less dramatic. tl;dr: G640 Rev-B is my preference, even though Rev-A might be better on paper.

[@foxxbaker]

Wanting to expand to getting into as many game genres possible, after getting into danganrompa and visual novels, the most recent game remind me of osu, so decided to get into rythem games by starting with Osu! So trying to find people who play it and still active

[@Ghoulaze]

Ok

[@ajs0350]

The fact that ips is never a consideration when people look at tablets boggle my mind. Osu the game where everyone wants the least amount of latency as possible and the most popular tablet is 133ips/hz and something like the s620 is double that and feels much nicer

[@pasi123567]

Hardware smoothing is the most important though, so I would agree with his list. No tablet anyways comes to the hz of a mouse which is a 1000

[@ScooterMan63]

I've been playing Osu for years now... on an H420. Didn't realize it was so bad :(

[@naka6162]

I honestly don't get why people complain about the 490, I actually replaced my bamboo 470 with it and prefer it. Sincerely, a hover player

[@MiorineOsu]

The 490 is objectively the worst Wacom tablet for osu in terms of hardware filtering. It isn't quite as bad as Koi made it out to be in this video, but it is far from ideal. I imagine the reason you may prefer the 490 over the 470 is because some players do prefer a bit of smoothing on their cursor, and you only hover so you never notice the smoothing difference between hovering and dragging on the 490. But even if you prefer smoothing. it is always better to start with a tablet with completely raw input (like the 470) and add smoothing afterwards to your preference so that you can tune it exactly to your needs.

[@apowersak1]

Uh I'm not sure if this has been pointed out but the reason why the CTL-4100 is more expensive is because art wise it has more depth of touch, making it a better value for people who are focusing on art, that's why it's a bit more expensive.

[@peco3474]

What?? I have been using the 490 for so long, am I the weird one??

[@leland5519]

I was excited to see my 4100 place in the S class and then that cutscene hit lolol.

[@fenrisrodriguez7834]

I'm a mouse player, I'll always be a mouse player, still watched this entire video

[@Imaproshaman7]

I have that first tablet and I'm so glad it ended up working so well with osu! but I should probably get the Hawku drivers. Nice video.

[@unknown.1666]

16:02 beatmap? edit: it's goreshit - looming shadow of a tree long gone

[@short7066]

I use the Gaomon s620. gotta love it

[@nessitro]

I'd love to watch "Ranking every osu! mice" and see where viper mini is ranked

[@syran3310]

me using an intuos: ah yes, another time where i am irrelevant

[@jakubl471]

I have the H420 and I’ve been using it for like half a year. God I didn’t know what I was getting myself into and I literally can’t afford a new better one, rip me 😭

[@xxgelenxxgames3773]

Do you have any problems using the H420?

[@jakubl471]

@@xxgelenxxgames3773 Well the problem isn’t with the tablet but when I managed to afford a better one it kind of really messed up me switching to my newer tablet. I’ve had it for months now and still just can’t use it well. Other than that the only problem with tablet itself was that the pen is way too thick and it requires batteries

[@xxgelenxxgames3773]

@@jakubl471 But still no performance drops or anything bad right?

[@jakubl471]

@@xxgelenxxgames3773 Not that I know of, never really had any performance problems ever. I’m pretty sure every other tablet that exists is better in every way that this one tho, wouldn’t recommend getting it at all. Better off saving and getting a good one

[@xxgelenxxgames3773]

@@jakubl471 Then the tablet is good once you get used to it with the pen right?

[@-undefined-]

Got to 4 digit with my H420, now I wonder if I should change to a different tablet lmao

[@michikomanguinao874]

is there any problem in H420 ? cuz i want to buy a cheap one, im poor 🤣

[@-undefined-]

@@michikomanguinao874 It's just different and really weird to get used to and try. There's nothing particularly wrong with it, however it'll be pretty hard to move forward in comparison to other tablets. It'll also be pretty hard to switch from a battery pen to a different kind of pen from experience. I got the tablet he said he switched to and am still trying to get used to it. The delay on the tablet is manageable and you can get used to it, but it just means you'll have to play slower maps. That's exactly what I did to reach my rank! osu! is a game you can play in many different ways, just some are more effective and smarter than others. Feel free to buy and work with whatever you want, but I do highly recommend you buy a more expensive one if you can.

[@NozomiClips]

@@-undefined- Did you know that you could have used huion's p80 pen with the h420? It's a battery-less pen that needs to be charged like once every month or so (depending on usage). I switched to it, because the p68 that comes with the tablet was too heavy (and I broke it very early on lol).

[@BookieShmook]

As a H420 user, this is slander. This tablet slaps.

[@nutofwisdom791]

yep

[@iodyzedsphere]

Yea

[@pub5736]

Hey, I'm planning on getting my first osu tablet and stylus and I was just wondering out of all the s tier ones that you mentioned which one do you think is the best. Thanks

[@ultimatestargazer]

ive used the 490 for so long and it feels perfectly fine, i had no idea people hate it so much

[@vitomolk8365]

Bro Same xD

[@deadnewchannelformelycillc7899]

Yo Koi thanks for ranking my one by wacom an S now i know that i can actually improve by using it

[@perryo1063]

I’ve noticed that some people include “E” as a tier on the tier list and it always annoys me so much so THANK YOU KOIFISHU

[@sonofcirce]

i bought the g430s a few days ago and its still arriving so this is gonna be fun, i did see a bunch of good reviews on it though so the quality definitely depends on the user

[@xuhnenfels0935]

so how's it going for you?

[@sonofcirce]

@@xuhnenfels0935 for a low budget tablet, its surprisingly amazing. it took me a while to get used to it but only cuz ive never used a tablet, but ive improved a lot since switching from a mouse

[@devicraft3230]

I remember having the H420 as my first osu tablet… Good times

[@R4NBOOKA]

Kinda necroposting, but i've reached 9k pp with huion420 Still using it xd

[@iDorito]

i just reached 8kpp with my H420, so don't feel bad if you have one, you can get better regardless of what tablet you use.

[@1sheep23]

The pen is definitely too fat (for me atleast)

[@jackwright7014]

I used the 480 and currently use the 4100, I found the 480 to have a higher hover distance for the pen and I found it to be better. Not by much though 😂

[@asie]

do you still like your 4100?

[@jackwright517]

​@@asieyep! Still using it! Brilliant tablet!

[@shivok6717]

Planning on switching very soon so this is gonna help me chose

[@ungsuhan]

S: 472 A: 4100, 470, 480, 450, WWW tablet B: G640 (rev a), Gaomon S620 C: Huion 430, G640 (rev b), Veikk S640, G430s, G640s F: 490, Gaomon S56k Biased lmao: H420

[@pokefan05]

And 3 years later this still pretty well holds up

[@Darklovesto]

Only real ones know this is a re upload

[@Chikiikena]

but why

[@MrSaltyy]

Yeah I was wondering where the video went

[@ejhillman9495]

Yh it says it was private have no idea

[@lyrocon5951]

I have the huion H640p and i should buy the ctl 472?

[@aesthet1kal]

me who unironically uses a 420 because broke: 😎👌

[@SKRRRRRRAAAAAA]

i own an xp-pen 640 rev B and a line friends edition and imma be honest, the hardware smoothing difference is noticable but if you're 6 digit like me it won't make you play worse, just takes one or two songs to get used to.

[@cxzay]

Yeah this is my first tablet (rev b) and I can return it if I wanted to but I’m not going to. Since because it’s my first tablet I’m going to wait until I don’t think I can get any better then get a real nice tablet to increase the skill cap:)

[@hydraflood7864]

We all know that the I pad is the best tablet for osu

[@Belovedad]

just broke my ctl-480 pen by sleeping on it. i dont even play osu anymore but i need this video

[@itsLuci2K]

Of course the one I have gets an F ...

[@lapain4]

I have the H420 lol but I initially bought it for art

[@itsLuci2K]

@@lapain4 👀

[@nave1218]

Me: That one guy with Gaomon S620 trynna figure out if I should empty wallet to try and find a resell for CTH480 or CTL472

[@sp-k]

when you use the huion h420: 😪

[@hanekawatsubasa6976]

can u drag with that? my friend has that but we don't know how to use it to drag

[@NozomiClips]

@@hanekawatsubasa6976 Been dragging ever since I started playing. So the answer would be yes, you can drag on the 420/h420 (also I recommend getting the p80 pen instead of the p68 that comes with it, since it's lighter; you just have to charge it every once in a while).

[@hanekawatsubasa6976]

@@NozomiClips Our problem is, its too small and you can't hit circles that are too spaced. Also, it works like hover

[@NozomiClips]

@@hanekawatsubasa6976 I guess that's personal preference. For me full area on the 420 is already pretty big. I'm currently using 80x45 as my area.

[@hanekawatsubasa6976]

@@NozomiClips How can you change the area tho. Also can you switch the tablet from hover to mouse mode? Like when you put the pen in a certain place, it just teleports.

[@ozaninan]

Surprised you didn't mention the inputlag/latency and the pulling rate. Some have considerable lag and some have low pulling rate that would feel sluggish on a 240h display

[@Purity_v]

Hey I’m about to get my first tablet (Wacom 472) I can get it in small and medium size. Does the size matter for osu?

[@ozaninan]

@@Purity_vso 472 vs 672? I would say anything bigger than 20x15cm(8x6 inches) is unnecessary for osu! But if you have an ENORMOUS hand and want to rest it on top of your tablet or if you are interested in creating digital art you might want to go with the bigger one but it doesn't really make a difference when it comes to osu especially when there is a price difference. TL;DR go for the small one, it's area will be more than enough anyway

[@Purity_v]

@@ozaninan thanks for responding, hope it won’t take too long to get used to it

[@MiorineOsu]

Input lag is pretty much entirely based on the tablet driver you are using, unless you mean the delay in inputs caused by hardware smoothing. Polling rate is also pretty much irrelevant for osu since tablets use absolute positioning and the only thing that moves in osu is the cursor. Your cursor will be a bit smoother with a higher rps, but that won't make it any easier or harder to click the circles. Consumer Wacom tablets all poll at 133rps compared to the 200rps of Pro-line Wacoms, but the difference is negligible. Anything else that advertises higher polling rates has hardware smoothing making it a less optimal choice for osu.

[@simonrist4222]

I didnt know my tablet was an f tier :( feelsbad

[@RandmAnimal]

f tier? my tablet has it’s own tier

[@mokow2991]

@@RandmAnimal ripp

[@simonrist4222]

@@RandmAnimal 😂😂

[@mehnazsreya]

This video made me so happy as a fellow cte 450 player

[@randomnobody5835]

When your tablet isn't on the list

[@MCExpiditionX]

What tablet?

[@1e1001]

same

[@tenchi2075]

@@MCExpiditionX i’m using HS64

[@dumplingexpert]

@@tenchi2075 same

[@hyfa_]

Hearing koi say "osu gaming" At 2:37 is so satisfying

[@imiyve]

that moment when ive had the 490 all my 10 years of osu

[@NORchaoticturtle]

I use the 490. i guess i havent noticed it cuz it is my first and only tablet. Been servingme well for over 3 years

[@aIaraxla]

by the way xp-pen make their products aimed at digital artists so the buttons are programmable for example you could do ctrl + z ect you get the point

[@sourisgogo]

The important thing to know it that you must use the good drivers. I bought a Wacom intuos S(the one that also exists with Bluetooth version) . And when I try to play with official Wacom drivers, I have a maximum of 30 hz with the cursor and It disgusted me I didn't want to play osu with a 30 fps cursor. I tried dragging the pen and the cursor became 165 hz again (my screen is 165hz) So I used to be dragging but one day I downloaded the github drivers, and then I have never been happier. Way easier to set up and the best quality, even if you hover

[@sourisgogo]

Btw i tried all the options with official drivers and it was still working in 30 fps, github drivers really saved my life

[@awesomeboxlord]

As a person that has used the 490 for 5 years now (hovered for the first and possibly second year and then went to dragging) the hardware smoothing is usable when dragging but i will be picking up a used 460 this week ill see how bad the 490 actually is (assuming i dont get scammed) Edit: I didn't get scammed, the seller was very nice. The one thing i have to comment is the rating for the 490 seems a little unjustified; because comparing dragging on the 490 with the 460, the difference is only noticable when you dont move the pens at all; where on the 460 there is some jittering from the lack of smoothing where on the 490 it doesn't move at all. another thing i will say is the pen on the 490/472 feels really cheap compared to the 460 after trying it; it feels i could shatter the 490/472's pen from my thought alone if you have this tablet, I would say just enjoy the game and upgrading is not necessary (just highly suggested to learn to drag)

[@blakel9233]

"I feel like im holding a carrot" -koi

[@equinox2419]

thats what she said

[@retroharu9999]

I have three CTH480's and one Ichitaro Edition CTH 480 and a Gaomon S620, Im planning on buying a wacom one too

[@everythinghuman6978]

I just started actually getting into osu. I got the 410 because I heard a lot of good things about it for drawing as well as osu. Don't know if that hardware smoothing really affects things a crazy amount, but I find it pretty damn good. My mouse is an FPS mouse, and I can not play osu with it. To jittery and fast for the game. I really need to figure out how to make the most out of the 410 for osu, though. Feel like I would like a smaller tablet area to screen size so I don't have to flick as hard for the increasingly difficult jumps I'm approaching.

[@kad0877]

out of curiosity is there any reason to use the hakku drivers or open gui over the drivers that x tablet company has?

[@tomatyto1274]

I can pretty much say the h420 is the best tablet you can buy if you are not really into this game or you are just a casual gamer. After you start getting into 6-7 stars beatmaps you can tell that something isn´t right, I saw my replays and could tell I was getting my cursor into the circle, but the smoothing is so high that I was tapping before my cursor could even get there. Not to say that the pen is huge and the click on the tablet was broken after 3 weeks of using it. (Sorry for my english)

[@Tsolocup118]

8:50 no way he said "lion edition" and zoomed in on the rabbit

[@Mrki-ql5jj]

I got 472 for christmas and then started playing Osu for the first time. I didnt know it was that good