@@snuffly_legend0513 if UI and UE count then so does kaioken
@snuffly_legend05138 ай бұрын
@@hallo23779 not really
@NightSideProductionsYTCC6 ай бұрын
Kaioken isnt exclusive to saiyans. King/North Kai came up with the technique himself, and only Goku (iffy on Chi-Chi) knew the technique to its fullest. Its a manual boost, and is not by Super Saiyan terms, a "transformation". Its a self-sustained multiplier. That's why you have x2, x3, x4, x10, x20, etc. All it does is boost the user's speed and strength for as long as their stamina allows it to. Kaioken in the Saiyan & Frieza Saga, Super Kaioken in the Otherworld Tournament, SSB Kaioken...they're all boosters on-top of the form the person is already using.
@hallo237796 ай бұрын
@@NightSideProductionsYTCC UE and UI are also not saiyan only transformations if they count so does kaioken
@AsherB105 ай бұрын
Never letting bro cook again with super Saiyan god being 1 💀
@WhateverYouWantToDraw4 ай бұрын
It wasn't the best but it isn't bad
@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung3 ай бұрын
I'd call it super saiyan red, but even then Super Saiyan 4 beat it to that punch too.
@Jacktheripper13292Ай бұрын
Imagine they make a new one called super saiyan purple.strongwr than ssg,ssb,ssr,ss1,ss2,ss3,ss4,ue,ui,tui and mui combined
@MrBamBloxyАй бұрын
Just respect his opinion it's not that hard bru
@shinoasmelodyАй бұрын
get a job
@willamdafoe93008 ай бұрын
Its not nostalgia for ssj1 to be the best that long ass fight with Freiza that build up to the spirit bomb them thinking they defeated Frieza then the horror in their reactions to him not being dead and him killing Krillin to Gokus rage, its peak.
@Gozieaaa4 күн бұрын
@@willamdafoe9300 same can be said for super Saiyan god, finding out the next power is literally called super Saiyan GOD, like it's literally a god power, the red look of the form and the transformation, the aura, the fact that Goku was so powerful that no one could even sense his energy (later found out that god ki just can't be sensed by mortals, cool i guess) was all too awesome, not to mention the experience in itself of trying to find the movie and everyone talking about Goku getting a new form also made its revelation that much more iconic for this guy, and let's be real the animation was beautiful
@TamsCake8 ай бұрын
I love how SSJ4 isn't just the direct boost from SSJ3 like how SSJ3 is the next level to SSJ2 and that to SSJ. To me SSJ3 is the penultimate SSJ form a typical saiyan can achieve, not including that weird thing Black did in Heroes. SSJ4 is a different branch entirely despite its name, its similar to Broly's Ikari form. Its the most saiyan ish type transformation and its design is cool. I also love how it expends less energy than SSJ3 does but is more powerful, showing Ki usage and Saiyan forms aren't just black and white.
@joshuadesousa66688 ай бұрын
Agreed I love that it is called Super Saiyan 4 because that’s the only words to describe it. It take’s everything that made the Saiyans powerful both the great ape form and the super Saiyan and brings it all together
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
@@joshuadesousa6668 red fur????????? Makes no sense could’ve at least been gold it looks like a emo ferret
@truzzprod.81918 ай бұрын
@@JasWinnin-gi2jb Now hair color needs a reason all of a sudden lmao
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
@@truzzprod.8191 difference between hair and fur stop trying to be smart
@TamsCake7 ай бұрын
@@JasWinnin-gi2jb ah yes cause the gold makes all the difference
@its_hokori8 ай бұрын
SSJ2 is my fav, so intense, and in a way, it's kind of like ssj1 just mastered to an extreme level. I love that all the fights in ssj2 in dbz had a level of intensity that just hit, and the aesthetics behind the characters all just look better than ssj1 imo
@SSJ2_Identity8 ай бұрын
SSJ2 is that iconic transforming look. The best in anime history, the best in general that everyone copied but still can't do it like Dragon Ball.
@robtheservantof6257Ай бұрын
Same bro. I love Ssj2🔥🔥
@Funnygoten12 күн бұрын
@@robtheservantof6257 I like ssg and ssj2
@ThaReck368 ай бұрын
Super saiyan God above 1,2 and 4 is ludicrous
@editFiction8 ай бұрын
so for me it's the same level but the ssjgod has nothing to envy with its shapes it's style changes from the classic shapes with a finer, calmer goku with an aura of fire fuchia hair. at the level of lore se goku it is the divine state of goku and the return of dragon ball Z the form has an incredible development with yamoshi the dragon ball the story of the saiyan and all that with a ritual. the ssj4 is definitely better objectively. but the ssj3 and ssj2 are just superior forms to the ssj agree the moments with his forms were incredible magic with incredible tension. but the ssjgod has one of the best fights in BOG it opens the way to new forms this form is just incredible
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
ssj4 is so fan fic emo ferret transformation
@thelettucebarrel77848 ай бұрын
4 is kinda goofy and narratively it’s pretty doodoo.
@nightowl53328 ай бұрын
@@thelettucebarrel7784 as if SSG is any better mate. Thats just a slimer Goku with a mere power boost which was thrown away immediatelly in the anime.
@thelettucebarrel77848 ай бұрын
@@nightowl5332 SSG is infinitely better than 4. Design is subjective, you either like it or you don’t, but narratively? It’s far superior, has actual build up, connections to the lore, is actually explained, and makes sense. Not to mention it’s symbolic of Goku’s relationships and the power he gets from everyone.
@TamsCake8 ай бұрын
Beast Gohan is such a disappointment to me because besides the initial hype behind Gohan getting a new transformation, it fell short. Beast Gohan had such a poor introduction for what its supposed to mean for him. I really would have liked for his trigger to be more than just Piccolo getting beat up bad yet again, its nostalgia baiting, but not even the good kind. It could have been Piccolo proper being on the verge of death or Goten, Trunks, Krillin and the others getting really hurt too. And perhaps Gohan could have had a deep retrospective over his losses, his embarrassing performance against Frieza when he tried to invade earth showing that he can't be a reliable protector of earth, how someone always had to jump in to save him, how his friends being beaten up now parallels how he failed to protect them in the past... and what Android 16 told him before he died. Emotionally berate himself enough until he finally gets the memo that people have been trying to beat into him his entire life then boom! Beast Gohan. But instead, he just went Super Saiyan but again
@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv8 ай бұрын
Gohan already had an introspective moment in DBS prior after the RoF arc ended and started training again with him and when Piccolo helped him regain his Ultimate form during the T.O.P. Recruiting mini arc, in the DBS anime. To do so again would be redundant.
@TamsCake8 ай бұрын
@@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv Getting angry after his friends get beat up and raging out is also redundant, but he did it anyway. Its not a bad thing for someone to learn the same lesson more than once, cause you might not TRULY get it the first time and having the same thing happen over and over to Gohan should only deepen that memo
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
Toriyama wrote all of dbs superhero sthu
@treehugger36157 ай бұрын
Yeah it was really lame imo. Just more pandering to fans. So now Gohan is the "angry" character again huh? A full 180 from his character type as Mystic.
@aaroncrawford35562 ай бұрын
Hope they make ssj4 canon in super and better written…
@imcgonigle2006Күн бұрын
Beast being down at 15 is CRAZY
@tommy24hunnid8 ай бұрын
Idk man, to me SSJG looks so cheap, didn’t last long in the series and the introduction was so bland imho
@Tubamaster22920108 ай бұрын
💯
@Speedinnit7 ай бұрын
exactly it just seems useless like washed
@ajphelps167 ай бұрын
Cook
@peekafch4 ай бұрын
Worst of all it became irrelevant after battle of the gods.
@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung3 ай бұрын
@@peekafch Not completely, they do state in the ToP arc that it uses less power than blue, which we see with them switching between the two to conserve energy. Though it didn't make much sense if you ask me, like if you want to use less energy, just... use less energy? Surely swapping forms only used more right?
@darkside78028 ай бұрын
DBS power ups make absolutely zero sense.
@legitation14428 ай бұрын
Exceptions for DBS Manga version
@Doge1o18 ай бұрын
@@legitation1442beast is in manga
@zillasaiyan1m2748 ай бұрын
Saiyans can transform, when they do their power is multiplied, their transformation change their hair, how does that make zero sense?
@FantomPhoenix8 ай бұрын
@@zillasaiyan1m274 Beast had some issues as did Orange Piccolo, Orange more for the fact that Shenron shouldn't have nearly enough power to give Piccolo such a boost imo. Beast just kinda, came out of nowhere, what even *is* it? It kind of falls into the Ssj rage category of "weird hybrid form that's never explained." Ssj God is great tbh, albeit I don't agree with the power scaling of the form and forms beyond it, but that's another matter. The concept of Ssj blue kinda makes sense if you see Ssj god as a new base form. Super Saiyan made sense, Toriyama even wrote out exactly how it functions, so it's a lot more then the very simplified version you gave.
@zillasaiyan1m2748 ай бұрын
@@FantomPhoenix good points
@Joh-o1r3 ай бұрын
..I’m sorry but… you’re not allowed to to cook since you put SSG INTO number 1 AND NOT SUPER SAIYAN!? Bro burnt the kitchen
@lx-touchigaming3597Ай бұрын
Bro never heard of opinions
@robtheservantof6257Ай бұрын
@@lx-touchigaming3597😂😂😭
@Gozieaaa5 күн бұрын
"OMG my glorious most iconic most memorable nostalgic super Saiyan 1 form which I watched on cable TV the day it was aired isn't automatically on number 1 even though the only reason I like it is nostalgia and build up and it's not like he has his own memories to base these off of? UNACCEPTABLE! IF YOU DON'T SUCK SSJ1'S PP THEN YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!"
@monkey-f7e4 күн бұрын
opinion??? ever heard of that??
@kaotic3008 ай бұрын
the gold of the original supersaiyan is just so iconic supersaiyan 4 is peak design and is what a saiyan should look like supersaiyan blue is just regular supersaiyan using god ki and getting a recolor ultra instinct and the gohan forms aren't technically saiyan transformations
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
"supersaiyan 4 is peak design and is what a saiyan should look like" saying this it while it makes them look like emo ferrets it doesn't look like a monkey at all don't put a form that is not canon into other ones and also what does the red stand for huh red fur makes no sence it would be gold there's alot of problems with the design
@Gunther694205 ай бұрын
@@JasWinnin-gi2jb You should wash your ryes
@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung3 ай бұрын
@@JasWinnin-gi2jb thefactyoudon'tknowhowtopunctuateyoursentencestellsmeyou'renotworthhumouring. Also *since And finally, you were preaching super saiyan god above (the RED one) and are slating super saiyan 4 with "what does the red stand for". Calling you a clown would be an insult to the circus.
@JasWinnin-gi2jb3 ай бұрын
@@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung i used translate ssg the red is for fire saiyan god
@bachnguyen1135Ай бұрын
@@JasWinnin-gi2jbbetter than ssjg
@TamerChris8 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man, I like forms which are hyped, and with that, my top 3 are SSJ, SSJ2 and Ultra Instinct Sign.
@richborn67008 ай бұрын
Facts he a Kai kid not a Toonami OG
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
its hjis list sthu if you don't like it don't comment@@richborn6700
@yixyuxtuxuyc81978 ай бұрын
@@richborn6700Kai >>>
@ZenoEditz.Ай бұрын
Based 🗣️🔥
@RolandDS8 ай бұрын
i respect your opinion but SSJG is overrated. I'd put it at number 5 respectfully.
@robertlafrance99748 ай бұрын
Imo ssg is goated but I respect your opinion Ssb is good but overrated
@GroillaMan8 ай бұрын
@@robertlafrance9974ssb is not overated is just alright but it’s very over hated
@robertlafrance99748 ай бұрын
@@GroillaMan yeah i do agree it’s aight i even like it but overall it’s overrated a little bit
@ziadbakry94038 ай бұрын
@@robertlafrance9974its the literal opposite of overrated. Its over hated.
@robertlafrance99748 ай бұрын
@@ziadbakry9403 oh yeah my bad
@richborn67008 ай бұрын
The biggest issue with the debut of UI is that its literally shot for shot Goku turning SSJ on Namek. Every great moment in Super is just a nostalgic callback to Z or OG Ball
@john-olivierlukama15488 ай бұрын
How exactly
@kaienglish2718 ай бұрын
Huh ? If anything it’s the complete opposite. The manga literally shows the difference between them so what’s the same ?
@keembo84138 ай бұрын
10:06 This video caught me by SUURRRRPPRIIIIIIAAAAASSE
@MasterChef19578 ай бұрын
Bro ngl that ssj take caught me off guard too
@patogmo22018 ай бұрын
I've only watched you for only a bit and you're already one of my fav db youtubers
@SulL1018 ай бұрын
The entire video I think your takes were so valid, I really enjoyed your reasoning and thought it was pretty accurate for the most part. I don’t agree with number one and two, but I completely understand your reasoning. Ssg represents a new era of dragon ball, and was incredibly well written. For me personally I just disagree though. Great tierlist
@bigmon57578 ай бұрын
Boutta say something controversial but ssjb is my second favorite transformation
@Shabahproductions4 ай бұрын
I had to subscribe. U brought me back to my childhood
@RockyRZАй бұрын
SS Blue Evolution above the OG SS Blue is unforgivable.
@AnAverageGamer5Ай бұрын
I think its valid because of how both of them was introduced.
@SaimerenАй бұрын
SSJ4 is number 1 for me. I love the great ape form too. I love the more primal forms over the glowy haired ones. Out of the glowy haired ones, I really like the Legendary Super Saiyan form. Broly is a beast, and he's a very primal character, and his Super Saiyan form is very primal and aggressive, and I think it's really cool. (But Orange Piccolo beats them all. ;))
@goodie2shoes8747 ай бұрын
True UI deserves more love. Narratively it fits Goku perfectly. It shows that mastered UI can be taken even further. Not through increases in strength and speed or by copying someone else’s technique, but by utilizing and adapting it in a way that’s tailored to a Goku and Goku alone. Makes me excited to see where toyotaro takes Super after the latest chapter.
@shinoasmelodyАй бұрын
rage at 12, over rose, blue, blue evolution, true UI, is diabolical when all of your talking points for blue and rose are significantly magnified for rage
@HotStormProductions8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your video and look forward to seeing more!
@baby_clix12318 күн бұрын
Go to hell
@christophersmith210Ай бұрын
SSJ 4 is the coolest looking form and its so unique. I remember one year when i was in elementary school my mother bought my first ever DragonBall Action figure SSJ 4 Goku, i had no idea what SSJ was or DragonBall Z something made me love it
@LologoPologo8 ай бұрын
It's actually a bit refreshing to see someone not choose Saiyan 1 as the best. I agree with the comments of Saiyan 1 being #1, but in the end of the day its your opinion.
@TomatoSauce20104 ай бұрын
My top 5 are probably 1. Super Saiyan 2. Super Saiyan 4 3. Super Saiyan 2 4. Super Saiyan 3 5. Super Saiyan God 1, is just the thing that started it all..which is why it’s top tier 2, SSJ4 is so unique and cool..and just says “saiyan” to me 3, It truly peaked with teen gohan and the build up of ascending super saiyan 4, it’s just so freaking *raw* 5, it’s a unique form once again and I think it should’ve been the only form super introduced
@wildos29168 ай бұрын
We can't really put ultra instinct on this list because it's not a saiyan transformation if any other character can achieve it. Same for mystic and beast. When I think of a saiyan transformation, I'm thinking of a transformation that is exclusive to the saiyan and the saiyan only.
@Athlete19905 ай бұрын
Bro, idc what generation you’re from. A fan is a fan.
@shahabuddin28028 ай бұрын
1) SSJ1 (By far) . . 2) SSJ4 (Best design, nice concept. Came out of nowhere though) 3) Legendary SSJ (The idea of an abnormal super powerful, out of control SSJ was awesome) 4) SSJ2 5) Ultra Instinct (Cool concept. Had a decent build up) 6) SSJ3 7) SSJ Grades 2&3 (The concept of gaining power at the cost of speed was awesome) 8) SSJ God 9) Ultra Ego (Contrived. Pulled out of ass just to give Vegeta a new form comparable to Goku's UI) 10) Mystic (Contrived, not as much as UE. But achieved nothing. Gohan not needing to transform is a cool concept though) . . 11) SSJ Blue (Dumb concept through and through) 12) Beast (Complete BS. The definition of contrivance. Makes absolutely zero sense)
@gary96896 ай бұрын
I agree except you said UI had a "decent" buildup, which I completely disagree with as it had been foreshadowed since battle of gods and had an amazing introduction. Also I understand blue's ranking, but I disagree that it was a dumb idea. I think that god ki being added to SSJ is a great concept, but was simply introduced WAY too early. Imo, it should have been introduced in a moment such as goku's rage in the black arc, or in another moment later on at least giving ssj god time to breathe. Sorry for yapping lol
@pedrocosta80912 күн бұрын
100% accuracy!
@pikachu3b366m8 ай бұрын
Dude, UI and UE are not saiyan transformations. They're techniques anyone can learn them.
@TamsCake8 ай бұрын
Its a transformation a Saiyan has used and itd be stupid not to include it
@pikachu3b366m8 ай бұрын
@@TamsCakeAll the Angels and Gods of Destruction uses UI. It's NOT a Saiyan exclusive transformation. You don't have to be a Saiyan to learn UI. If all that requires to be a "Saiyan transformation" is to be used by a Saiyan then the video should've included Kaioken as well, since Goku is the only one that has ever used that "transformation".
@TamsCake8 ай бұрын
@@pikachu3b366m I can guarantee this is such a non issue. Everybody who's clicked this video knows they aren't saiyan exclusive transformations, we been knew like 6 years ago. It really doesn't matter, he'd have to change the title to something slightly wordier which isn't great for the algorithm I'm pretty sure
@TamsCake8 ай бұрын
@@pikachu3b366m Also UI at least the way Goku uses it, is a transformation. Kaioken isn't a transformation in the same sense
@infinityslouchy86548 ай бұрын
@@TamsCake Saiyan Transformations aren't transformations a Saiyan has used. It's a form that's only inclusive to Saiyans. So he wouldn't need to change the title to something else and include any types of Ultra Instinct.
@dmetri42058 ай бұрын
Ssj4 is #1 in my book it’s like pinnacle of what saiyan supposed to be tha style tha form tha power it’s basically going bacc to roots of saiyan
@blackmagicwarriordjozrnetr87936 ай бұрын
Every time someone says they grew up watching Dragon Ball I feel old I was 23 in 1999 when I started watching Dragon Ball Z
@TeamHusky8 ай бұрын
Ssg absolutely belongs in #1 spot. My FAVORITE transformation in all of Dragon Ball! W
@Karkotto-19878 ай бұрын
Mine is ssj2 because of the hairstyle
@danielmedjedovic70688 ай бұрын
Mine is ssj4, love it went back to the saiyan roots
@editFiction8 ай бұрын
W
@TeamHusky7 ай бұрын
@@danielmedjedovic7068 Ssj4 is my second favorite
@Gunther694205 ай бұрын
Totally disagree. It was super cheap with pretty much no buildup. It was mentioned and suddenly it was there. Nothing emotional happened or anything. SSJ1 and SSJ2 had great reveals and god was just oh there is another form. It was also immediately thrown away
@mani-ud8cu2 күн бұрын
love the video! can u do a video on the introductions of each form in the anime? like how cool the transformation looked buildup etc.
@ThomasDaSilva-mp8cq8 ай бұрын
Super saiyan god is my favorite as well
@ShadowslickGokublack8 ай бұрын
I love super Saiyan 4 top first
@shadowmaster86848 ай бұрын
I agree with most of your list. Beast gohan is WAY too over hyped. Also side question. Do you plan on reviewing og dragon ball?
@ethanthao283118 күн бұрын
W for having ssjg number 1. No one understands what it's like to a kid that grows up with dbz and wait a few years for db to come back and giving us ssgj.
@CristianDavid-d4q8 ай бұрын
Ss4 is the best form,
@sakhesengwayo3 ай бұрын
Goku Transformations Supersayn Supersayn 2 Supersayn 3 Supersayn God Ultra Instinct Vegita Transformations Supersayn Supersayn 2 Supersayn 4 Ultra Ego I feel thats how it should have played out.
@lucidmind96768 ай бұрын
I think with the ToP, UI Omen should’ve been the most Goku could achieve at that time and that Perfected/Mastered UI should’ve been introduced in the Moro arc but him not being able to fully utilize it like in the ToP and then the Granolah arc should’ve been him finally figuring out how to properly wield UI rather than introducing True UI which is literally just UI Omen but takes away the concept and essence of UI
@Rizzman65522 күн бұрын
I feel that Gohan's form should be called "Beast mode" instead of "Gohan Beast"
@BHayes-cp3wm8 ай бұрын
Everybody knows Super Saiyan 4 the GOAT
@gotanjuu57917 ай бұрын
Here's my reason why I'd personally put Ultra Instinct sign in top 5. It was sprinkled throughout the entire series, good examples would be Goku in the 23rd world martial arts tournament, Goku vs Nappa, Goku vs Recoome, Jeice and Burter, and even foreshadowed in SSJ3 Goku vs Beerus. All of Goku's teachers have either indirectly or directly taught him the path of Ultra Instinct.
@sempai40568 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't like Ultra Instinct. The aestetic is meh and correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the concept of UI was supposed to be Super Sayian Blue? Also isn't it suppose to be a technique and not a transformaiton (similar to Kaioken)?
@omereltayeb7711Ай бұрын
Ultra instinct was never supposed to be super sayain blue they are completely different things tho you are right that ultra instinct is a technique not a transformation the only one you can argue is a tranformation is tui sense goku uses it as a tranformation and it makes sense if you look at goku's character development in the granolah arc
@I_Seraphim_IАй бұрын
5:15 I think it’s a partial ssigssj from fighting and training with people with god ki, like a false super saiyan god
@dtay89138 ай бұрын
I know your opinions on ssj4 so we'll see how you place it. Personally, it's 1 or 2 for me.
@revya42943 ай бұрын
Tbf, Ssj4 was also about Goku's love for his family so for me it's number 2 behind Ssj1
@davidasilvaoliveira77818 ай бұрын
Just so you know vegeta used his blue evolution form against Moro
@mikeburnette21907 ай бұрын
For me SSj1 and SSj2 are the most iconic transformations, because they were done right. Being in those do or die situations probably will be the way most anime that work around that sort of theme is used, because its going to work. Its kind of like booking for wrestling, because your building up to the right moment, before the transformation/power-up is unlocked. The Rose form...that could be Goku's next form from Blue...possibly if he were to master the Kaioken...according to a friend of mine.
@luigimario23488 ай бұрын
10:40 relateable I never watched and understood db until my early teens
@greenruges69468 ай бұрын
A completely agree SSJG is on top, it’s got literal hacks and a tangible multiplier
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
healing factor too
@phistoltv51968 ай бұрын
It also has a whole unique fighting style too. Man I hate how they wasted that form
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
@@phistoltv5196 goku uses it more in the manga but for the most part he only uses it to heal
@rashadameen19238 ай бұрын
SSJ4 SSJ3 SSJ UI - Sign Wrathful
@robtheservantof6257Ай бұрын
I still remember that Sunday afternoon when Goku went Ultra Instinct for the first Time 😂🔥🔥
@jayjr65328 ай бұрын
My ranking 1: Super Saiyan God 2: Super Saiyan Rose 3: Super Saiyan 2 4: Legendary Super Saiyan ( Broly ) 5: Super Saiyan 4 6: Super Saiyan 1 ( Base ssj) 7: Super Saiyan 3 or Super Saiyan Blue 8 : Super Saiyan Blue Evoloved Honorable Mention Trunks: Super Saiyan 2 Rage
@jacksonstefaniak96848 ай бұрын
This is way closer to my list his sadly wasn't that good
@HonoredEditor8 ай бұрын
My top 5 ranking 1. Super Saiyan 2. Ui-Sign 3. Super Saiyan 2 4. Super Saiyan 4 5. Super Saiyan God Super saiyan God is a good transformation but just no And the worst transformation is ss rage just cuz it made no sense to have that form
@jacksonstefaniak96848 ай бұрын
@@HonoredEditor Yup couldn't agree more with you if you wanted to revamp trunks just go back to the present timeline and give him Super Saiyan God or something
@liamroma36778 ай бұрын
@@HonoredEditorI think him having that form made as much sense as beast. Him being a half human and all. I like it more than beast because trunks actually was put through the ringer and it wasn't a deus machina type of form. He still got his ass beat.
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
it's his list stsu@@jacksonstefaniak9684
@phamhuuphuoc2754 ай бұрын
Super Saiyan Blue and Ultra Instinct being put below Gohan Beast is kinda harsh to be fair
@kokkonutt8 ай бұрын
I respect your opinion on SSJG, but personally.. it's my favorite, especially blue
@SaimerenАй бұрын
I like the idea of different forms offering different advantages. Like Ultra Instinct being "the fast" form, or you could have a super durable, immovable form, or a super hard hitting form or a really efficient KI blasting form ect.. And I think it would be cool if each character had their own where they can specialize in their respective fighting techniques.
Am I the only one who thinks ssj4 doesn't look that good and loves the way Blue looks.
@Mobthe2nd26 күн бұрын
Yeah bro just you
@SilverbackJellybottom8 күн бұрын
I like the way both look
@garynalley42778 күн бұрын
It just looks stupid.
@garynalley42778 күн бұрын
@@Mobthe2nd you have goku with shit brown pants, goofy red fur and eye liner. Same with vegeta but with ugly woman's jeans instead.
@Mobthe2nd8 күн бұрын
@@garynalley4277 better than recolor of Super Sayian 1
@titaniumbread7 ай бұрын
….am I the only person on the face of the Earth that likes SSJB 💀💀💀
@TheGrimReaper194 ай бұрын
Nope. I stan SSB bro. We gotta fight the haters
@titaniumbread4 ай бұрын
@@TheGrimReaper19 ayyyyy 🤝
@TheGrimReaper194 ай бұрын
@@titaniumbread 🤝 indeed brother, blue and rosè don’t deserve the hate man
@armaniobi41734 ай бұрын
@@TheGrimReaper19 frl
@dortequalmann98564 ай бұрын
Good from ypee
@kevinrichardi10052 ай бұрын
i really like your videos!
@JakeRider-wc6ke8 ай бұрын
My ranking. 1 Super Saiyan Blue 2 Super Saiyan 4 3 Super Saiyan 4 Super Saiyan God 5 Super Saiyan 3 6 Legendary Super Saiyan 7 Full Power Super Saiyan 8 Super Saiyan Rose 9 Super Saiyan Rose 10 Super Saiyan Blue Control 11 Super Saiyan Blue Evolution. Now I'm not adding Beast, Ultra instinct, Ultra Ego, Master Ultra Instinct or Great Ape because they are NOT Super Saiyan Forms they more so a Primal to Unnatural Power Ups for them that almost anything can Use or Transform into, But the Super Saiyan forms can only be attain by Saiyan's and Nothing Else. Tell were y'all rank my Personal Ranking and I'm Ranking more so base of Logic and overall just better Form via Power or Abilities etc.
@Normalname-gu8jo8 ай бұрын
I think great ape should be there because it is only attainable by saiyans and is the default transformation
@dkgaming24238 ай бұрын
Super saiyan blue over OG super saiyan and ssj4 your definitely a new “fan” you’re opinion shouldn’t matter
@larana28 ай бұрын
Super Saiyan Blue at the top is actually unhinged
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman8 ай бұрын
@@larana2facts his opinion be trash
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman8 ай бұрын
This list is trash and Oozaru is a transformation you don't know what your talking about
@MH-vl5sn6 ай бұрын
SSJ 4 is officially canon since january 2024. Also Akira Toriyama always stated that GT was canon, even tho he himself was not part of it's creation. Dragonball Z was never supposed to have a Sequel but GT had the ending that Toriyama loved. I know lots of people do not like it but GT is canon, it plays after Super and this means Supersayan 4 is the strongest transformation. A long debate finally found it's closure.
@christophersmith210Ай бұрын
I personally love GT and to me it makes sense that GT would come after Super
@aliammar239029 күн бұрын
I think something so big happened and led to dragon ball gt story
@TzaNash4 ай бұрын
never rank again dude
@henryumunnakwe47793 ай бұрын
So he can’t have an opinion?
@Polanball87602 ай бұрын
Bet bros some fake fan who only watches the fights and is crying over ssj not being in #1
@NORTHSIDESLIM2062 ай бұрын
You make a tier list
@magictruth9Ай бұрын
Excelent video bro … optimize key words took a while to find exactly what I wanted to watch
@Sarge3278 ай бұрын
No hard feelings but I think this list sucks on *almost* every front. Also you were just plain wrong about Blue Evolved being an arc-specific form, he’s used it in 4 now if you count the manga and the only reason he didn’t use it in the Broly movie is because Toriyama didn’t know about the form since he didn’t make it.
@AshleyHernandez-g3c8 ай бұрын
Fr is ass
@JasWinnin-gi2jb8 ай бұрын
don't comment if you have a problem
@Sarge3278 ай бұрын
@@JasWinnin-gi2jb I don’t have a problem, I just disagree with it on nearly every placement. Also wanted to clear the SSBE thing up.
@mitsos6536 ай бұрын
@JasWinnin-gi2jb bro the comments are exactly for that. To everyone to say their opinions so stfu
@JasWinnin-gi2jb6 ай бұрын
@@mitsos653 you look dumb you obviously don 't know what a opinion is
@memby93x5 ай бұрын
Interesting perspectives. I'm a 33yo American, so I watched Z on Toonami during the first broadcast, and enjoyed that sweet spot in the early-mid 2000s. My favorite by far is the original Super Saiyan, not even close.
@alexassis78765 ай бұрын
Heavily disagree
@ChipDouglas-no5zz4 ай бұрын
Huh uh uh
@RastaFudge7 ай бұрын
Are we gonna ignore how damn realistic ssjgs aura is?
@blues45092 ай бұрын
Super Saiyan 3 is my favorite form. I don't care how much the internet hates it, it's goated lol
@OnlyDarien6 ай бұрын
I think with SSJ4 it should be a Broly only form if they ever make it canon. The entire concept of SSJ4 was controlling the great ape form. Broly wrath form is the same idea. So maybe they can make an arc where Broly learns to control his mindless anger (like they showed him kinda doing in DB superhero) then turning into SSJ4. They don’t even have to call it Super Saiyan 4, i just want the design again. This would also go with the idea of everyone getting their own form. Goku UI, Vegeta UE, Gohan Beast, Broly SSJ4 etc etc
@5omed0by8 ай бұрын
Great video bro, but you forgot to rank Trap Goku.
@AndrewMayfield-i7x3 ай бұрын
Ssj2 iz the best hands down gohan kicking cells butt live on tv back in like 2000 99ish was the best childhood tv series experience ever
@explosivegames50448 ай бұрын
I love to see someone respect the great ape transformation as much as I do i love the great ape something about seeing someone turn into a giant ape is cool and golden great ape is cool to I wish we could eventually get more great ape in the story of dragonball
@2ndGear7 ай бұрын
While I don’t agree with the whole list I have to say, FINALLY someone who understands Super Sayian Red/God I’m not the only one who loves that form. I wish Akira named the RED form Sayian God, and then the BLUE form could’ve been called Super Sayian God.
@AGZhark6 ай бұрын
Not sure if anyone is aware, but Super Saiyan Rose is supposed to be Super Saiyan Blue. And Beast Gohan IS supposed to be one of the MANY references in that movie to the Cell Saga.
@demonstraxlepro3 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of ssjg it looks more like if goku hasn't eaten for months, it's not because his thiner but because of the way goku was drawn in this transformation plus the eyes look bad in the movie, for ssj blue I just hate it it's like ssj3 but with a bad design and as you said the new transformations.came too fast with no introduction exept for ssjg. Ssj4 would have been my top 1 if it wasn't for how iconic ssj1 is... Man I miss dragon ball gt and ssj4 especially gogeta ssj4 you could somehow feel how strong he is in the show with the fact that the fusion don't last long.
@thirdworldrenegade4 ай бұрын
Ultra Instinct most definitely isn't a transformation, it's a state of being. Goku just so happens to be a Saiyan that taps into Ultra Instinct. Not to mention, it isn't exclusive to Saiyans. Angels are associated with Ultra Instinct above all else. That's their natural state. Hell, Roshi used some variation of it in the manga during the Tournament of Power.
@joshuaperry2426Ай бұрын
Ssj god at 1st has to be some sort of crime, it’s most certainly not over ssj1 or ssj4
@To-To6 ай бұрын
Having SSB Evolution and Rage above SS3 is goofy. Obviously it's your list, but if we're talking purely about narrative reasoning, any Super transformation barring UI and MAYBE Ego is at the bottom. Rage and SSB Evo specifically were the anime writers writing themselves into a corner and needing to give a character a power-up + wanting to sell toys, the entire reason why Blue is so bleh to begin with. I agree with Perfected Blue's placement tho.
@Innovator737Ай бұрын
SSJ2 is my personal favorite, but SSJ1 is quite possibly the most iconic transformation in anime history, there's nothing that will ever top it, ppl who have never watched DB or even anime in their lives know who Goku is, and that he is a SSJ
@unculturedswan12 күн бұрын
You forgot my personal favorites, grade 2 & 3, they are the representation of going about ascending super Saiyan the wrong way and also grade 3 trunks goes hard af
@isaiahcastillo36603 ай бұрын
A 2000 kid commercial run rq was lit and funny as 😂
@QuandaleDingle_697 ай бұрын
Me personally i would have put Ultra Instinct Sign specifically slightly higher for a reason: it's aesthetic. In my opinion it fixes the biggest problem about the newer transformation: it needs a new hair color to look cool, or an overcomplicated design. The design of UI Sign is very simple, it's still Goku with black hair but with it's edges slightly risen up to make it look different enough from his base form, and those silver eyes that are actually more noticeable in Sign than in MUI (since pretty much everything in Goku is silver in MUI). It's introduction actually makes more sense in the manga, but the anime had WAY better climax and anticipation because everyone thought Goku had died for good.
@samnene14 күн бұрын
Nahh top 4 easily 1. SSJ (iconic) 2. SSJ2 (best feeling) 3. SSJ4 (unique design plus way to go into the form) 4. SSG
@conormcgregor60545 ай бұрын
Super Saiyan Rage above Blue is crazy bruh 😭
@SouthernDrinkSlinger5 ай бұрын
Mellavelli is the absolute GoaT when it comes to Saiyan forms. His Absalon series deserves its own show. With that being said, when it comes to dragonball transformations, I wish they took a different approach with them. For example, the whole "lore" on why Goku was so strong was because he injured his brain and took away is "evil rage" making him more gently and docile. He basically lost a part of himself that was integral to saiyans. It makes more sense for him to stray away from "Super Saiyan forms" and lean more towards god ki then angel power like UI. UI in itself is supposed to be only used by angels, so the fact that Goku can wield it just ads to the story. Goku should have went something like SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SS God, SSJ Blue, SSJ Blue Evo, then however many versions of UI he needed to reach the end. Vegeta is a royal bloodline, the Prince of Saiyans. It would make sense that he would be able to reach saiyan forms that other regular saiyans couldnt. Makes a cool story. Let him advance the saiyan transformations: SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, Golden Ape, SSJ4, Perfected SSJ4 (ssj form while in ssj4), SSJ5, Perfected SSJ5, and who knows what other saiyan forms they could come up with. Maybe even use his arc with God/Angels with Goku to take on a SSJ5 destroyer form. Imagine a big bulked up SSJ4 with purple fur and super saiyan blonde hair. I think they nailed the Broly transformations however. Being a Legendary SSJ means you wont see another one like him for about 1000 years. All of his transformations need to be completely unique to him. I would have liked to see the full range of transformations go something like: Controlled Ōzaru, SSJ, Legendary SSJ, Legendary Controlled Ōzaru, SSJ4, and then his final form be perfected SSJ4 with green fur. I also think they missed an opportunity for the half-breed saiyans. You could have introduced different storylines where saiyans fathered children from other races. Then the children get some degree of both parents. For humans they could have played on the adrenaline when stressed. Maybe something like an instant regeneration like Piccolo mixed in with a saiyan, just imagine the zenkai boost from taking lethal blows for all other saiyans, only to regenerate & live through it.
@yvancarbuccia65965 ай бұрын
For me, Gohan’s Super Saiyan 2 is de best transformation in the whole franchise. To me, the introduction was so epic and its power in comparison to others was on a whole other level. But I agree with most of your list tho
@CoffeeSorcerer6920 күн бұрын
Still pissed that we didn't get more Super Sayian God after it was introduced. Instead we got stuck with the Bulma Transformation.
@armin_does_stuf27132 ай бұрын
mui being 9th place is criminal
@rolion44247 ай бұрын
My own ranking: 1. Ssj 2. MUI 3. Ssj 2 (it would be at 2nd spot but I think it's been too much left behind) 4. Ssj 4 5. UI Sign 6. Ssj 2nd grade 7. Ssb (manga) 8. Ssj Rosé 9. Great Ape 10. Ssg 11. Ikari form 12. True UI (I think it's good and it has potential, this one depends on how they keep using it and write it) 13. Ssj 3 14. Ssj 3rd grade 15. Ssb Evolution 16. Beast form 17. Ssj Rage
@tobias83518 ай бұрын
ranking ssj4 high is wild considering goku not only broke the rule that you need to see the moon to transform in ozaru but got ssj4 from hearing pan cry and a picture truly an friendship power moment , it has no development and vegeta needs a machine to use it...
@Lohfilter8 ай бұрын
😐
@Ilikewafflebutter8 ай бұрын
Brain rot comment
@tobias83518 ай бұрын
@@Ilikewafflebuttertruly an 0 argument comment moment.
@ballsitch46088 ай бұрын
true, the form itself is overrated because of the design.
@tobias83518 ай бұрын
oh and don't get me started on gogeta ssj4...
@donellebullock7404Ай бұрын
By the own criteria, SSJ1 SSJ2 AND SSJ4 should be top three. SSJ1: Fit the built up persieved legend (Golden Ozaru was shown as the true according to the records stated in the show at the time). fueled by rage, his firm matched the more sayian roots Goku embraced to beat Freiza. SSJ2: Matched the theme, at the time, of Gohan being better than Goku and Vegeta. It showed why Vegeta respected him and why Goku made his choices. SSJ4: Brought back relevance to the heritage of their race and was a form not fueled by the common emotions now: love. It also perfectly brought out the best in the race by reverting the person back to their peak and constantly growing stronger as the battle went; just like Broly. This showed Broly was unique in him being like this to start, but it was available to all through the true SSJ2 form.
@bjeff2k5 ай бұрын
3:38 missed opportunity here. A lot of new listeners want to hear your opinion on this (including myself) keep that screen time running bro
@TeamEmerald38 ай бұрын
Honestly my top five wpuld be 1- ssj 4 2- ssj 3- ssg 4- ue 5- mui But your list is very good on its own