ranking maknaes from survival show groups in different categories (dozens?..)

[@columbinarina]

how would the ranking be based of the video : vocal: 1. boeun +5 2. seowon +4 3. yeseo +3 4. saebi +2 5. iroha +1 rap: 1. iroha +5 2. boeun +4 3. seowon +3 4. yeseo +2 5. saebi +1 dance: 1. iroha +5 2. yeseo +4 3. boeun +3 4. saebi +2 5. seowon +1 visuals: 1. saebi +5 2. seowon +4 3. yeseo +3 4. boeun +2 5. iroha +1 sp is objectively not objective so won’t really count it, not trying to offend anyone!! overall: boeun +14 iroha +12 seowon +12 yeseo +12 saebi +10 (boeun is not the maknae tho but she’s about the same age as the rest so not a big deal ig hhahah)

[@fufufufufu.fufufufufu]

Thxx I was looking for smth like this 💞

[@meyssasandide9206]

I feel offended seeing Saebi last in sp

[@loucardon8527]

if you take sp into account, the scores are super close, they balance each other out quite well seowon +16 saebi +15 boeun +15 yeseo +15 iroha + 14

[@HamzaKhan-s4y2o]

But you forgot Stage prescence

[@kdramaloveridz]

Seowon is super underrated, especially for her age, as you said. I really love her vocals and can pull some amazing high notes. We haven't seen her rap much as vocals are her strong tier but I would love to see that, im sure she would sound amazing if she practiced. Her dancing isn't perfect but she really keeps improving. That's what I love about seowon and you should really check her out!!!

[@kellylee5003]

I feel like ILLIT has so much potential but it’s completely wasted (their concept just does not fit them). I feel like they would fit a more strong LSF-ish concept or maybe an elegant concept like Twice Feel Special

[@abbieie287]

yes all of them do so much better in other concepts except wonhee

[@TheREALJUSTPRETTYALT]

@@abbieie287 You're acting like Wonhee CAN;T do other concepts

[@beinji4885]

@@abbieie287 Of course she fit way better a cute concept but I think she have potential for a more badass concept

[@stanillit]

illit shines in magnetic bcs they're so versatile and anyways their next comeback looks like it's gonna be darker almost a horror concept basing off recent photoshoots so we'll see all 5 members continue to thrive in their next comeback as well

[@WJHallyuLover8365]

Wonhee is my most favorite member, of course I want her to, apart from the debut concept, try out more concepts. Her cuteness might find a way to blend itself with the darkness

[@malphasgaming5791]

Seowon has lots of potential since she's way younger and already accumulated experience in performing in such a young age. What she needs now is polishing and finding her own style. That kid will be a monster in vocals in the future.

[@Sunnydoll414]

Just a kind piece of information for you boeun is not the maknae of CLASS:y it’s seonyou

[@retrohao]

@@Sunnydoll414 WHATTT OMH IM SO EMBARRASED

[@Sunnydoll414]

@@retrohao it’s alright it’s a common mistake I thought boeun was the maknae at first too

[@aixa_maxwen]

​@retrohao so seowon is FIRST

[@Leila_isthebest]

@@aixa_maxweni doubt it because seonyou had really good powerful vocals

[@AG-go3if]

​@@aixa_maxwen not really, seonyu is at the same vocal level than her and is way better at rap and dance so

[@Fanboy_37qt]

As for seowon i think you should watch her performance in other variety show where she dance a lot of popular songs, she's actually a strong maknae but can't say that she's the Strongest at all maknae

[@jasnoorkhabra]

IZNA has a lot of amazing people in skills, they have amazing singers like junguen, Jiyoon, and rappers, koko, sarang, and dance like Saebi, Jeemin, and Mai’s amazing visuals. Hopefully they aren’t wasted like illit was in there debut

[@soyeonsoulmate]

And they also fit eech other's vibe, which is very important in a group

[@jasnoorkhabra]

@@soyeonsoulmate yeah

[@서연-o9z]

You need to watch boeun"s other fancam (like the most view one) plss she is amazing at the stage 😢😢 i hope class:y could comeback in this year...

[@Lara_nosoyyyy]

I think Class:y maknae is Seonyou not Boeun becoz she sayd she was the oldest from 1st grade and Seonyou was from 1st grade too (both are 08z)💓

[@retrohao]

yess she is I’m so sorry i got it wrong 😭

[@camforevss]

HOLA LARAA JAKJAAJ

[@Lara_nosoyyyy]

@@camforevss CAMIII HELLOU

[@camforevss]

@@Lara_nosoyyyy 💓💓

[@vanLovely]

Go Yeseo!! Can't wait to see what new she's gonna bring in her new group

[@rajori111]

the thing about iroha is that she has this mihee(my teenage girl)/chanmina (japanese soloist) aura. if i were to debut her i would wait a great 5-6 years and debut her as an unnie of a group same but different thing with boeun kinda. i would wait 2-4 years and debut her as a maknae. she would give that swan (purplekiss)/ rinji (pixy) realness. both powerful maknaes with a deeper tone

[@JuliaAndrews-ic5zx]

saebi and iroha are my favorites

[@abbieie287]

the whole izna has so much potential they have really strong rappers dancers and singers

[@sam_u_amu]

If I'd guess, I'd say Yeseo would be the second main dancer in MADEIN along with Gaeun, and she'd probably be a lead vocalist too. Though, basing off of their official profiles and pictures, it seems like Yeseo is also the Center

[@imbored2200]

I don't really think Yeseo would be a lead vocalist she's not that strong vocally like she's not bad 5 are better then her in MADEIN

[@rebeccataylor1930]

Thank you for adding saebi you really nailed her ranking as well as the others i really enjoyed the video 😊

[@retrohao]

Thank you for watching and suggesting :))

[@rebeccataylor1930]

@@retrohao np :))

[@JillianCalape]

​@@retrohaogyuri is the youngest in iland 2 right?

[@guinnmyahslaysstaymad]

@@JillianCalapethe youngest was jiwon

[@Enhypenerz]

I think out of who debuted

[@X.Enhypen.X]

REAL overall of the video: 1. Seowon +16 2. (Saebi, Yeseo, Boeun) +15 3. Iroha +14

[@justforfun-sm4hk]

Im mostly amazed to Seowon, so young yet so talented, what more when she grow up, right?

[@retrohao]

REALL!!

[@ainaralopezcascales1243]

i think the problem of illit is their concept

[@elfy2006]

yes it's def a big part of the problem

[@iOo0zZz]

Theres a HUGE difference between concept and vocal ranges. Learn what it is cause you look hella dumb.

[@jasnoorkhabra]

Okay, but they r rating this off there r u next stage

[@Quantum-Quills]

@@iOo0zZzI think this comment is more referring to stage presence? Comparing magnetic iroha to shut down iroha, for example, shows that she’s clearly stronger at one concept and therefore her stage presence is a lot stronger.

[@user-ug5fk4lk7h]

i completely agree with everything in the video, love the analysis! the only thing is, in my opinion, it seems almost a bit disrespectful to these idols to rank them in terms of kbs. i get it’s a popular thing that stans do to analyze idols beauty, but these girls are mostly all minors and are new to the industry. while i understand analyzing their many talents, ranking children’s appearance based on percentages of non-official, toxic beauty standards doesn’t really sit right with me. while visuals can be important to a member’s/group’s popularity, ranking these girls and pitting them against each other based on how they look is just a little sad. no matter how strong/talented these girls can be, they are still young and don’t deserve a numerical rating for their beauty, no matter their age. i know if i were an young idol, i would feel upset and insecure knowing that my fans rank me based on visuals and see that as a quality that’s just as important as skill/talent, especially considering how much pressure idols are already under to look, act, and perform their best. i truly don’t think the kbs ranking adds any relevant commentary as most idols are already considered above average in terms of attractiveness, and these rankings don’t necessarily help encourage/uplift these girls. in my opinion, the obsession with equating a number to one’s beauty based on some “official” standards just pushes fans to be more critical over an idol’s appearance, as all they expect is complete perfection from their idols (which is why female idols are getting plastic surgery younger than ever before and are criticized anytime they look less pretty than usual or than their members i.e the concept of a “visual hole”). this isn’t meant to come off as hate, as i truly admire the work you put into your videos and your accurate analyses. i also understand ranking idols based on kbs is almost normalized and that the industry will always value visuals, but the ranking just feels a bit superficial and unnecessary compared to the other sections of the video. this is just my opinion, so feel free to disagree! just a recommendation for your future content. i’ll still be tuning in to your next upload and wish you all the best. :)

[@fufufufufu.fufufufufu]

How long did this take to write... Edit: also I forgot to write I agree!! We shouldn't rank people, especially minors this way and I'm glad the creator realized this :)

[@retrohao]

nono thank you for this - it was really eye opening, in the future i will no longer include visuals :) thank you for the nice messages !!

[@alinsofan501]

seonyu is the makane of classy :) , but doens't matter she is ace and can do everything, so she ranks in first 3 in every category.

[@plintus3413]

All rankings soo good! Can't wait to see your ranking on unnie's!

[@retrohao]

Thank you!!

[@tory-rh6ys]

boeun is really an all rounder/ACE. shes my pride

[@retrohao]

Frfrr

[@fromizzy_]

the maknae is seonyou 😢

[@Garlic_Fries_With_Mayo]

Fr

[@abbieie287]

iroha has so much potential in rap and especially dancing she’s alr at singing as well but illit just doesn’t suit her

[@ryujinlxvz]

THE IROHA SINGING ONE IS SO RIGHT, LIKE HYBE I NEED IROHA DEEP VOICE RIGHT.NOW

[@alexwhite7680]

I actually think that Saebi will be better at dancing when she will grow up She looks like a teenager that is not that comfortable in her body Or maybe she's just too thin and it's hard to put strength and groove into moves (like it is for Wonyoung for ex)

[@EfrenCulala]

Seowon❤

[@mikeshinobi1288]

Seowon has the best vocals among the maknaes. She has a great chest voice and nasal tone. Boeun is only number 2.

[@successfulcookies]

Seowon vocal tier is d- while boeun is d+ and usually vocal rank is based on vocal tier

[@beaaa6076]

i think iroha's stage presence is extremely underrated, imo she has the best in illit

[@user-gh9sv3jt3z]

Moka's stage presence is better, I'd say.

[@mokagyu]

moka has the best sp in illit

[@beaaa6076]

@@mokagyu i love moka and i think her sp is amazing however irohas is better for me

[@geeayebeewhy]

i’d deffo say its moka first (best stage presence in all of 5th gen imo, this is coming from a kiof stan), then iroha in the group

[@rubyjaneluvbot]

illit as a whole has good stage presence and group dynamic + stage presence is subjective. I personally like minju's sp the most

[@AndreaHi-r7f]

Iroha has high quality sp the concept illit has doeent showcase it moka suits the concept based of sp not tone guys

[@TheBlindBandit-e8v]

Iroha is really just put down based on her skills because she’s in ILLIT. Am I like the only one that never sees people talk about her dancing? 😭😭

[@fufufufufu.fufufufufu]

Yesssss so true!! She is so talented and nobody mentions it :( they're just busy being toxic haters!!!

[@retrohao]

RIGHTT she’s so underrated

[@yummies78]

Isn’t it Seonyou ?

[@RoyaleMusical]

they kinda serve but i think with maybe 2-3 more years of training for all of them, they could be perfect

[@Loadingcherries]

I would rather train short, then debut young, then train in my free time cause imagine debuting in 2026💀

[@RoyaleMusical]

@@Loadingcherries and what’s wrong with 2026? is that the apocalypse or something? 💀 girl be serious i could easily say ‘imagine being 13 and debuting in 2024’

[@RomaBoulgh-bl2kh]

Seowon is so talented

[@Enhypenerz]

Boeun is an all rounder for sure ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@itskatarinabluu]

boeun is my girl !!

[@retrohao]

@@itskatarinabluu reallllll

[@chuurioz]

heyyy i love your video!! can you do survival show groups' oldest member in different categories?

[@retrohao]

SUREE

[@bichphuongbui7899]

boeun boeun

[@kiki_davis]

Seowin is 12-13 and sings better than me

[@retrohao]

@@kiki_davis reall

[@Riizeis7burnsm]

Do centers pls.

[@SenalFernando-p7e]

Could you do all the others like rank 2 3 4 5 in survival shows?

[@retrohao]

sure !

[@SenalFernando-p7e]

@@retrohao thanks

[@ChynaDoll-v2j]

I love saebi ❤❤❤❤

[@kim_luna4012]

Can you make this Video again? Class;y maknae in seonyou, she is one the best ones, so you should make it again and see the difference 💅🙏🏻

[@Eellmmiiddoo]

How many times the maknaes got 1st Place Boeun-1 Iroha-2 Saebi-2

[@INmendigo]

fact saebi just get 1st places with her visuals

[@strawberry-lm1rz]

@@INmendigo 🤡ofc it's kpop what did you expect if you are mad go watch some western MVs

[@Ambrinjamal]

​​@@strawberry-lm1rz True. Like I'm a hardcore iroha stan but I don't mind whatever rank she gets in visual cuz she is the prettiest for me but I like her more for her dancing and voice....people say they want talented vocalists but then they eat up idols with visuals and compare them with other idols and disrespecting and mocking the idols who aren't extreme pretty. And when another extreme pretty idol get praised and viral for her beauty, they throw the word " only visual " on them. As if they weren't the ones who hate normal looking idols....that too being WAY PRETTIER than the ones hating🙄?🙄?

[@Kep1ian926]

​@@INmendigoSaebi hater?? Im reporting.

[@INmendigo]

@@Kep1ian926 and i lie?

[@INmendigo]

for me saebi isnt 1st in sp, her just bite her lips

[@earthyloves]

Bfr You clearly don't pay that much attention to her than bc she bit her like 2 performances

[@Kep1ian926]

You clearly don't know what u are talking about,so pls don't talk :')

[@INmendigo]

@@Kep1ian926 i watch iland i realy dont like almost all saebi performances, for me the best is fake it but appart of this i dont like, especially lvsg

[@ilya._wei]

THANK YOU THANK YOU

[@retrohao]

NPPP :))

[@saywhatnow24]

Now do the oldest next 🙏

[@qŋŋ-c4e]

Boeun❤

[@princessgamer6903]

Yeah can you rapper version pls🙏

[@choidarks]

Boeun deserves more

[@loxxils]

из какой группы boeun ? what group is Boeun from ?

[@My_Life_Is_Going_Well]

Class:y

[@leeroah]

next: ranking last winner on survival show

[@retrohao]

can i ask what u mean by this, sorry

[@kokofishiw]

@@retrohaoI think it’s like the last person to be announced in the group on survival shows

[@TheYearOfJerome]

winking is not stage presence. one was literally an actress. 😅

[@Kep1ian926]

Is this shade to Saebi...

[@jrcuartz1829]

good day. this might sound as a huge hassle but i hope you redo this and add that clip where seowon shows his hiphop, poppin and lockin dancing skills. i believe she should be 2nd as only Iroha can outdance her in this list. it just happen that UNIS choreography only focus on tight and synchronized moves but not exhilarating ones with big and wide movements, which seowon can actually do pretty well.

[@chiro2748]

diria q falta wonyoung pero ya aparecio en el otro video

[@retrohao]

Yess I didn’t want to add her twice haha

[@Linh_dan0601]

Top 2 plss s

[@claireshi7384]

Ranking with Wonyoung (iz*one), Tzuyu (Twice), Somi (ioi), Yuki (Elzzup), Seonyu (Classy) Vocal: 1. Seowon 2. Seonyu 3. Tzuyu 4. Somi 5. Yuki 6. Wonyoung 7. Yeseo 8. Saebi 9. Iroha Rap: 1. Yuki 2. Seonyu 3. Tzuyu 4. Iroha 5. Somi 6. Seowon 7. Wonyoung 8. Yeseo 9. Saebi Dance: 1. Iroha 2. Seonyu 3. Yeseo 4. Somi 5. Yuki 6. Saebi 7. Tzuyu 8. Wonyoung 9. Seowon Sp: 1. Saebi 2. Seonyu 3. Wonyoung 4. Seowon 5. Yeseo 6. Somi 7. Iroha 8. Yuki 9. Tzuyu

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

Somi is third in vocal, second in rap, and top 2 in sp

[@fufufufufu.fufufufufu]

Iz*one disbanded ages ago wonyoung is in IVE now

[@Kiara13-es6ot]

Seowon is better in dance than Wonyoung

[@Kiara13-es6ot]

And I think that in sp Wonyoung is better than Saebi

[@jangwonyoungistheitgirl]

​@@fufufufufu.fufufufufuwe know.. but still iz*one are still from a survival show.. That's the whole point of the comment

[@Little_0wls]

Hey I just wanna say ty for judging truthfully and not lying bc in every video with rating number ones from survival shows elisa from unos is always there bias and they always do unfairly bc the others are so good and Ik Elisa is good but not as good

[@alexwhite7680]

I actually think that Saebi will be better at dancing when she will grow up She looks like a teenager that is not that comfortable in her body Or maybe she's just too thin and it's hard to put strength and groove into moves (like it is for Wonyoung for ex)