Ranking Martial Arts w/ MMA Fighter Jon Fitch | Tier List

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Fightful Overbooked

Fightful Overbooked

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@FightfulOverbooked
@FightfulOverbooked 3 жыл бұрын
Let us know how you rank these martial arts! And don't thumb us down just cause Jon doesn't like your discipline. It only hurts our channel
@OtomoTenzi
@OtomoTenzi 2 жыл бұрын
What is your crass and brutally honest opinion, on the controversial mixture of Muay Thai + Peek-A-Boo + Judo combined? Would such a combination of combat styles be considered LETHAL???
@FreebyrdFayelanx
@FreebyrdFayelanx 3 жыл бұрын
I like how this is still 100x more respectful and mostly open minded than most MA tier lists by low-level/non martial artists and your in the BUSINESS of fighting.
@FightfulOverbooked
@FightfulOverbooked 3 жыл бұрын
That was exactly the idea. There are so many of these tier lists out there, but why not one by an actual high-level MMA fighter?
@DanTheWolfman
@DanTheWolfman 3 жыл бұрын
@@FightfulOverbooked Hey, what about a low level mma fighter?
@lionedheart
@lionedheart 2 жыл бұрын
@@FightfulOverbooked Hapkido, Sanda, Japanese Ju Jitsu, and Jeet Kune Do are missing on the list. Can you make another one including them assuming the fighter is highly proficient in each style, thanks.
@alhfgsp
@alhfgsp 4 ай бұрын
Don't even listen to a word by someone who doesn't train.
@trd8749
@trd8749 3 жыл бұрын
2:38 I put Kick Boxing on that World Champ level. Proceeds to put it on Hall of Fame level....
@FightfulOverbooked
@FightfulOverbooked 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, he did subsequently say it should be at Hall of Fame and explained why
@YungSeti
@YungSeti 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best martial art tier list on KZbin tbh
@ChefChrisASMR
@ChefChrisASMR 10 ай бұрын
There is video of judo beating Muay Thai. And other striking arts
@LoconStratos
@LoconStratos 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a boxer but I’ve been so interested in Judo and feel like it would be a good way for striker who’s discipline doesn’t have that clinch game such as my own and Kickboxing, Savate. So I feel like I really want to practice Traditional Judo cause if I’m not mistaken they actually teach submissions, locks, and such.
@gladiumcaeli
@gladiumcaeli 2 жыл бұрын
Yes in judo you will also learn how to fight on the ground.
@ht8138
@ht8138 2 жыл бұрын
Usually you can find a cheap Judo Club if your in a decently sized City.
@LoconStratos
@LoconStratos 2 жыл бұрын
@@ht8138 lots of Judo Clubs in the closest city to me. I’m moving up there when my lease is up next year. I convinced my fiancé to try because, there’s a lot of great self defense techniques in Judo that would be great for self defense especially for women since it doesn’t exactly require overpowering. Until then I’ll stay fit and work hard on my main skill for now which is boxing.
@lionedheart
@lionedheart 2 жыл бұрын
He did say they learn but they don’t focus on it as much as the throws etc.
@OtomoTenzi
@OtomoTenzi 2 жыл бұрын
What is your crass and brutally honest opinion, on the controversial mixture of Muay Thai + Peek-A-Boo + Judo combined? Would such a combination of combat styles be considered LETHAL???
@ja-son439
@ja-son439 5 ай бұрын
Kung Fu has full contact sparing.....not sure how he does not know this. " I would not put my life on this"....they habe throat grabs, groin kicks, eye pokes...smgdh. Fitch is one of my favorites, but apparently he only thinks in rems of sport
@McLovin-qk3rh
@McLovin-qk3rh 3 жыл бұрын
Him- “If they don’t spar it’s not practical” Max Holloway- “Hold my beer”
@boogeyman1016
@boogeyman1016 3 жыл бұрын
U think holloway's never sparred b4?
@Yasharal110
@Yasharal110 3 жыл бұрын
Max Holloway is an old battle tested Mixed Martial Artists. He does his "hard sparring" in the octagon to extend his fighting career and carry less injuries with him into a bout. Of course amateurs need to spar to know what works and what doesn't.
@McLovin-qk3rh
@McLovin-qk3rh 3 жыл бұрын
@@boogeyman1016 I’m aware he has I was making a joke.
@McLovin-qk3rh
@McLovin-qk3rh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yasharal110 I know Holloway’s routine I was just simply making a joke
@Yasharal110
@Yasharal110 3 жыл бұрын
@@McLovin-qk3rh O okay my bad.
@Aldotronix
@Aldotronix Жыл бұрын
Me watching how he puts judo and tae kwon do in the same tier: 💀💀💀
@zacNZL
@zacNZL 3 ай бұрын
love to go against you mate
@NightShift-ci5vn
@NightShift-ci5vn 2 жыл бұрын
Most fights under represent wrestling I’m glad it got the respect it deserves
@HiredGunz98
@HiredGunz98 2 жыл бұрын
Muay Thai Numba 1
@shurmike
@shurmike Жыл бұрын
did a little kickboxing in the late seventies.. most always good boxers won
@DanTheWolfman
@DanTheWolfman 3 жыл бұрын
SALTY at that little French Kid! I gave you Round 2. You should make a Video with me...DanTheWolfman
@frankiecal3186
@frankiecal3186 Жыл бұрын
Catch wrestling is goat
@terrencetysor9956
@terrencetysor9956 2 жыл бұрын
Learn that every art can be devastating in the correct hands.
@quinlanvos7984
@quinlanvos7984 2 жыл бұрын
why? If an art is devastating in the "incorrect" hands - this tells you that you got a deadly art In the "correct" hands even a spoon can be deadly
@ChriseFTW
@ChriseFTW 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez long intro
@FightfulOverbooked
@FightfulOverbooked 3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha we should have worded that better
@mider9996
@mider9996 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Most Wing Chun schools are eh, you need a good teacher who teaches sparring etc. supposedly there’s guys that can beat grapplers. Capoeira is an Afro Caribbean art hidden in dance. Great video and great advice
@Kano-0492
@Kano-0492 2 жыл бұрын
I did judo, ju jitsu, kickboxing, pancrase and Mma. In that order. Judo is the basic for each kid, just like wrestling. It helped a lot for the mma later on. Its funny that people that only did kickboxing wont last long in practice for Mma. We didnt see them after one lesson. I live in the Netherlands. Were there is almost no Sambo or Wrestling. I think kickboxing is at a high level over here.
@kennylynch9136
@kennylynch9136 Жыл бұрын
no BJJ is top tier GOAT
@EP10051
@EP10051 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know about Sambo being I the hall of fame
@Markpaul9
@Markpaul9 2 жыл бұрын
Is he on drugs?
@James_I_Archer
@James_I_Archer 2 жыл бұрын
Probably weed
@frozeeeq2904
@frozeeeq2904 Жыл бұрын
Yeah or first signs of CTE
@anuvongvatanadilok2333
@anuvongvatanadilok2333 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to train in muay Thai and even got encouragement from my father to do so, but my mom wasn't having any of it (both my parents are Thai lol). Instead they enrolled me in wrestling (Greco Roman / freestyle / folkstyle) and taekwondo. It wasn't until high school until I started going to a boxing gym and that changed my mindset a lot in terms of watching and appreciating combat sports.
@albertoviscencio7425
@albertoviscencio7425 2 жыл бұрын
which one do you think is more fun and efficient in a fight?
@Dude24638
@Dude24638 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, as a kick-boxer I’m going to try out wrestling just wondering what it’s like compared to boxing?
@anuvongvatanadilok2333
@anuvongvatanadilok2333 Жыл бұрын
@@Dude24638 Im not a professional fighter, but if you're talking about a combination of martial arts, wrestling and boxing would be the perfect starting point for anyone getting into MMA. If you can master the fundamentals of hand to hand combat, the sky is the limit. Also to answer the question directly, wrestling is ground/grapple. Boxing is clinch/striking.
@muhammadhadjee5493
@muhammadhadjee5493 2 жыл бұрын
I do bjj and muay thai and it's a deadly combo
@the_pyr0maniac_canne
@the_pyr0maniac_canne Жыл бұрын
imo the best martial art combo
@taiz_1726
@taiz_1726 Жыл бұрын
@@the_pyr0maniac_canneyeah prob but maybe add wrestling to really put it all together
@tathagata_roy
@tathagata_roy Жыл бұрын
@@taiz_1726 judo is also a good option
@suhasmk3521
@suhasmk3521 Жыл бұрын
Add wrestling also
@CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb
@CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb Жыл бұрын
Crazy comb
@sammalik128
@sammalik128 11 ай бұрын
I never took Sambo but can admit that it is Hall of Fame along with Muay Thai and Wrestling. Any list that doesn’t put Sambo in the first tier will lose credibility as most current Dagestani/Russian UFC champs are from Combat Sambo background.
@danilpankov8114
@danilpankov8114 2 жыл бұрын
I would swap judo and bjj. Because throw is a very powerful and dangerous weapon. Also judo guys are usually physically stronger.
@OtomoTenzi
@OtomoTenzi 2 жыл бұрын
What is your crass and brutally honest opinion, on the controversial mixture of Muay Thai + Peek-A-Boo + Judo combined? Would such a combination of combat styles be considered LETHAL???
@danilpankov8114
@danilpankov8114 2 жыл бұрын
@@OtomoTenzi, how will you combine Peek-A-Boo and Muay Thai? Stances are very different. If you want to come close with Peek-A-Boo, the best clinch option is body lock. So you better choose Sambo or Greco than Judo.
@gudea5207
@gudea5207 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the level of Judoka. Many Judoka don’t truly learn kuzushi until they are a black belt and would thus not be able to perform any kind of koshi waza in the street without they’re back being taken. So a black belt in either might make your point valid but like a blue belt in bjj to an orange belt judo. I’ll take the bjj blue belt everytime.
@icemitico
@icemitico 9 ай бұрын
Bjj guys would throw themselves with their black in the ground, and get kicked on the nuts. 😂😂
@calvinwallis2634
@calvinwallis2634 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only video on martial arts rating that didn’t slam tae kwon do I’ll definitely subscribe to that 👍🏻
@wendyvic4046
@wendyvic4046 2 жыл бұрын
Right? And I see a trend where people say "Well, TKD is pretty good but they don't use hands...???". I will agree that Olympic style TKD doesn't use hands, it seems, but many TKD schools, especially OLD STYLE (not the Mcdojo ones) do use both hands and feet. After all, TKD means "the way of hands and feet". Have trained in some very good TKD schools, but have seen some that are just "belt factories". You can find schools in any of the arts that are just watered down.
@elpolitemexa2272
@elpolitemexa2272 Жыл бұрын
Machida has a shotokan background, not Kyokushin
@filmfanchan6637
@filmfanchan6637 3 жыл бұрын
Machida does shotokan)
@FightfulOverbooked
@FightfulOverbooked 3 жыл бұрын
He does!
@aizentheg4369
@aizentheg4369 3 жыл бұрын
Sub zero does shotokan too:)
@Joobkl
@Joobkl 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Muay Thai at no.1 I train MT but would out it 2 or 3 coz no ground work or submissions
@FadeStrategy
@FadeStrategy Жыл бұрын
Muay thai should be highest tier together with BJJ & Wrestling, with boxing just a tier below
@redwood1133
@redwood1133 Жыл бұрын
Please dont teach kids to headbutt. Ive damaged my frontal cortex. Broke boards and just random things w my forehead. Stop it please.
@spectre9065
@spectre9065 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows what he's talking about. Taekwondo's "advanced kicks" may be useless, but if a muay thai or kickboxing roundhouse kick is highly effective, than a Taekwondo roundhouse kick to the ribcage is highly effective. Mechanically they are similar, only Muay Thai uses the shin and Taekwondo uses the ball of the foot.
@PaulRamen
@PaulRamen 2 жыл бұрын
I love that GSP is French for him
@lilautistico1635
@lilautistico1635 2 жыл бұрын
Just don’t do Kung fu just do wing chun,jeet kun do,and shalion martial art bc those are the only people that have known to be able to fight like ip man,Bruce Lee,and any shalion fighter there are so many arts of kung fu but they are all pretty much useful except these 3 and when practiced right like adding sparing then I’m pretty sure you know how to fight
@cozmic1082
@cozmic1082 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I do Kung fu and just wanna say we don’t just hit a wooden dummy, we do spar
@Roganrewind23
@Roganrewind23 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanna learn how to fight quit it
@muayboran6111
@muayboran6111 3 жыл бұрын
I like the traditional stuff, I do silat and vovinam when I travel around this region(I’m from Thailand) but sparring may not be enough if you just punch and kick to the body like in silat. I guess vovinam is alright
@the_ninja436
@the_ninja436 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a crazy fact Jon finch knocked my coach’s front teeth out if Jon finch sees this he knows who I’m talking about
@lilautistico1635
@lilautistico1635 2 жыл бұрын
If you practice weng chun right and incorporate sparing it has potential I feel like it should be given a chance
@H14529
@H14529 2 жыл бұрын
Fr. Tony and Anderson have used it and they used it pretty effectively in mma, especially tony against the cage vs Pettis
@mattmagna_
@mattmagna_ Жыл бұрын
Where do you think Pencak Silat would land?
@carloscenteno6540
@carloscenteno6540 Жыл бұрын
Taekwon-DO ITF they do use their hands, that's the traditional one not the Olympic version.
@SomeOldHeadOnGas
@SomeOldHeadOnGas Жыл бұрын
The Problem is most places teach wtf and people don't get the difference
@philthyphil1410
@philthyphil1410 5 ай бұрын
I did Rhee Taekwondo in Aus. It did hands feet & grappling.
@danielcarrillo9497
@danielcarrillo9497 4 ай бұрын
Depends on the instructor my nephew is a black belt in WTF and his instructor teaches throws, hands, kicking and so forth.
@shurmike
@shurmike Жыл бұрын
so for self defense MT with wrestling?
@jackjax7921
@jackjax7921 2 жыл бұрын
7:41 Is that your comic collection 😂😂😂😂
@Close2silent
@Close2silent Жыл бұрын
Y’all need to be more specific with the context. Is this for self defense or the octagon?
@ryneagheilim9782
@ryneagheilim9782 Жыл бұрын
Fairbairn Sykes? Kudo DaidoJuku? MCMAP? Glima? Sanda? Dambe? Pekiti Tirsia? Savate? Also, should divide between Striking Martial art and Grappling Martial art tier list
@PsychExperience
@PsychExperience 3 жыл бұрын
Wrestling is EXACTLY where it supposed to be. Props 🤝
@MrLennybach
@MrLennybach 3 жыл бұрын
Wing chun
@luisnunez3496
@luisnunez3496 Ай бұрын
So judo people get knock down and bjj guys dont because they know how to stand up fight?
@cole3536
@cole3536 3 жыл бұрын
what about itf taekwondo?
@MrLennybach
@MrLennybach 3 жыл бұрын
WTF & ITF I sparred with both but I had a difficult time with ITF. WTF was a cakewalk
@stealthven2352
@stealthven2352 3 жыл бұрын
great vid :)
@akbarmuhammad6391
@akbarmuhammad6391 3 жыл бұрын
Silat?
@kittyvermeer8333
@kittyvermeer8333 7 ай бұрын
Machida is shotokan karate practitioner
@kira.5607
@kira.5607 Жыл бұрын
JJB & judo & wrestling > muay thai
@imchillin2355
@imchillin2355 Жыл бұрын
I have a question, I want to start practicing a combat sport to be more confident in a confrontation situation and be able to defend myself -So I searched up some gyms and these two are close to my house ,but - One is on it Judo and they make good competitors and other gym is an mma gym with striking lessons, BJJ ,wrestling,Muay Thai -And I want to know if I should go to the Judo gym and master Judo or -Go to the mixed gym so I can also learn some striking that I may need in self defense or fight ??
@tokonoverkin4510
@tokonoverkin4510 Жыл бұрын
You should do some striking for like six months, you will get beaten in the face and won’t fear it, then master judo. I would personally do like that
@suj3919
@suj3919 Жыл бұрын
Thanks WOW THAT'S AWESOME
@JaKommenterar
@JaKommenterar 3 жыл бұрын
JJ here is meant BJJ but not too clear
@coreyhouse2647
@coreyhouse2647 3 жыл бұрын
The smile when he remembers getting bullied by that friend kid
@austinmj64
@austinmj64 2 жыл бұрын
I always feel like if you're going for pure self defense you only need either Boxing/MT or MT/BJJ 3rd would be Kyokushin/Boxing
@Kthomasritchie
@Kthomasritchie 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rank Judo/wrestling/Sambo above BJJ. Throw someone down on the hard concrete and they ain't getting back up. A big advantage is you can remain on your feet rather than go to the ground. That with boxing/MT would be extremely effective.
@kevthegoat8774
@kevthegoat8774 10 ай бұрын
BJJ, Wrestling, Muay Thai, Sambo, Sanda, Judo, Kickboxing, certain styles of Karate and boxing to an extent are all fantastic for the streets.
@oceaneggo
@oceaneggo 3 жыл бұрын
They spar in Kung Fu lol
@migBdk
@migBdk 3 жыл бұрын
Light sparring exercises or actual pressure testing spar?
@oceaneggo
@oceaneggo 3 жыл бұрын
@@migBdk both.
@BJSepuku
@BJSepuku 3 жыл бұрын
@@oceaneggo in some dojos, maybe. In 99% of cases: no. Look up that mediocre, middle aged MMA fighter that fucks up Chinese MA Masters on the regular. His name is Xu
@lanzibangli1259
@lanzibangli1259 3 жыл бұрын
@@BJSepuku xu xiaodong?
@zetta1200
@zetta1200 2 жыл бұрын
that must look funny lol, sparring in that shitty style...
@wonderbread1966
@wonderbread1966 11 ай бұрын
I think the same argument you made for wrestling being goat status you can make for BJJ. If your opponent is within reach you can take them down. From there you can control them and tire them out, tie them up and ground and pound or where BJJ has an advantage is the submission game. Also if a BJJ practitioner gets taken down somehow, they are comfortable working off their backs, unlike wrestlers. I agree with most of the list but i would put BJJ up in goat status with MT and wrestling for the same reasons.
@dreortiz6850
@dreortiz6850 3 жыл бұрын
I’ do wing Chun, literally spar all the time..... what are you talking about
@supermax5000
@supermax5000 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, in kung fu they actually spar. Why did he say in kung fu they don't spar? I bet he has never seen Donnie Yen clapping Mike Tyson's cheeks
@MertLDN
@MertLDN 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a mf movie 🤣
@Мартин654
@Мартин654 3 жыл бұрын
Yep kung fu is dope
@Мартин654
@Мартин654 3 жыл бұрын
@@MertLDN shtf kung fu is dope
@James_I_Archer
@James_I_Archer 2 жыл бұрын
@@Мартин654 yea your right kung fu is for dopes
@TheSandkastenverbot
@TheSandkastenverbot Жыл бұрын
So your point is Kung Fu is legit because of a movie scene?
@EP10051
@EP10051 11 ай бұрын
He’s so funny 😂
@fernxndesofc
@fernxndesofc Жыл бұрын
Ok. You drop the enemy on the flor with wrestling but you dont know how to finish him, then, you lost the fight because BJJ dominate it on the floor. For the BJJ the fight starts on the floor I think it's not one good ranking
@canaldopetot559
@canaldopetot559 2 жыл бұрын
Eu não sei quase nada de artes marciais ou algo do tipo, mas observando algumas lutas, eu acho que Capoeira estaria mais ou menos no World Champion ou Contender
@johnwick9765
@johnwick9765 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a world champ? Ha never heard of him. Also, this guy knows nothing about these martial arts he is ranking. I hope people.dont listen to a guy that gets hit in the head for money. Listen to him, sounds a bit slow
@Masonjeremiah95
@Masonjeremiah95 2 жыл бұрын
Bro u do karate or something why u mad?
@johnwick9765
@johnwick9765 2 жыл бұрын
@@Masonjeremiah95 lol. Not mad. Just find it comical that any bonehead can make videos and post them on line and make themselves sound like an authority on the matter
@Masonjeremiah95
@Masonjeremiah95 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwick9765 he’s a bellator title challenger
@johnwick9765
@johnwick9765 2 жыл бұрын
@@Masonjeremiah95 ok? And?
@Masonjeremiah95
@Masonjeremiah95 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwick9765 his opinion matters more then mine and yours combined
@Urmomma5f4t
@Urmomma5f4t 8 ай бұрын
Judo has better pins than BJJ generally but agree with the rest
@iovelioelio7504
@iovelioelio7504 3 жыл бұрын
I'm single 😥😥😥😥😥
@ncennkinselu6113
@ncennkinselu6113 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Alone 😍😥
@GentlemanQ
@GentlemanQ 5 ай бұрын
Still single? Go get a husband
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