Ranking Micro 9mm Pistols (revisited)

[@spnfirearms]

Watch the p365 vs hellcat 500 rounds each in one video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZWzZomqh7tre7csi=f5Mvx8KhpQPk8JCJ

[@chrisp1601]

Lots of underrated pistols from lesser known makers. People don’t even try these and they get no love. Thanks for bringing them up!!!

[@spnfirearms]

Exactly! Lots of great options out there!! Thanks for watching and respect

[@chrisp1601]

@@spnfirearms thank you brother! Keep it up!

[@MrTRS4444]

Dude you have been killing it! Your channel is a sleeper channel wish more people would tune into your vids buts that’s probably YT. I’ve enjoyed all of your content and think your doing an amazing job for the 2A community! keep it up man! I’ll always be a supporter of yours!! Hope your channel keeps growing! I share all of your vids! Well done brother!

[@spnfirearms]

I appreciate that greatly man, lots more to come. Thank you and and respect

[@cohoonatube]

@@spnfirearms Could not have said it better (though 6 months later!). Great job, glad I found your channel. Sub'd and forwarded to several fellow 2A aficionados :D.

[@maxmccain8950]

I’ve always considered the “compact” firearms as full size duty guns. Several of the deputies I used to work with carried the G23 as a duty gun. My body style allowed me to carry the G22 off duty also.The “sub-compact” has always seemed more of a compact to me. There was always a G27 under my vest. Now retired, there’s always a G23 inside my waistband. Great video as usual sir.

[@alejandrodominguez1838]

Very useful video to watch if anyone is having trouble choosing a good solid CCW

[@spnfirearms]

Yes, that is why I do it! Respect and thanks for watching

[@snakeplissken44]

I love that SPN's thing is small carry guns. I wish I had a thing, I'm already into so many different platforms all different sizes and calibers.

[@CReydaboss]

You're one of the only guys i see on KZbin that uses a Hellcat as an EDC and has his things to say about it. I think SA is a solid company with quality products. I switch between a Hellcat and MC9 for my EDC.

[@spnfirearms]

It’s because my hellcats never let me down. I ran one through the whole pandemic, steel ammo, reloads, crappy ammo and not a single problem ever. Respect and thanks for watching

[@AK-nj7wj]

Recently got the hell cat pro to replace my sig365 and the hellcat definitely fits better in my hand. It was the hellcat vs for the 365x for me but I just honestly wanted something different from sig. I don't have any regrets so far!​@@spnfirearms

[@j.t.553]

Wow you're the exact person I would like to talk to I had recently but had to sell unfortunately a hellcat OSP hex wasp apparently it's discontinued now. I'm looking for another pistol at the moment and the MC9 is the exact pistol that has my attention I just heard there's a lot of issues with it going into battery have you had any issues personally?

[@CReydaboss]

@@j.t.553 I did have a return to battery issue. I also had an issue where certain ammo was getting hung up on the feed ramp after racking the slide. I sent it back to Canik and now it's flawless. Canik has pretty good customer service too.

[@thebeast9606]

If the gun has a barrel length of 3.4 or less, I'd say it's a micro 9; 3.5-3.9 would be a sub-compact. Everyone has their own opinion and idea, just carry what works best for you.

[@keithgraham9547]

You're not even close to right. My P229 with a 3.9" barrel is hardly a subcompact. A 357 Magnum snubbie is not a micro. Try again, focusing on overall size. Almost all autoloaders will have at least a 3.1" barrel or longer, except for a hideout gun.

[@exquizit_d]

You would consider an m&p m2.0 with a 4 inch barrel a micro? Edit: never mind. My blind eyes thought the period was a comma.

[@thebeast9606]

@keithgraham9547 I didn't know you were the resident expert on all things guns. Send me the link to your channel so we can all be enlightened.

[@keithgraham9547]

@@thebeast9606 You certainly proved you aren't an expert. A cursory glance at a few pistols would have told you that making your hard class distinctions by barrel length would categorize a huge number of fairly bulky handguns as "micros." Many people think lots of the firearms the manufacturers classify as "compact" only meet the term because they are slightly smaller than the "full size" counterpart. Is a Glock 19 really compact? Barrels on many bulky revolvers are shorter than even a micro 9. No one thinks they are "micro revolvers." So instead of looking at facts, you just want to smart mouth me. What's the saying? Facts don't care about your feelings.

[@10oner]

3.4 is perfectly average. Thats honestly more than adequate size.

[@DeusRegum]

I've owned hellcat/pro, Shield Plus, Glock 43/x/48, and now P365X/XMacro. I find myself not carrying them as much as I prefer to carry my HK VP9SK. I feel cross platform performance is important (VP9SK to VP9, G26 to G19/17). With Micro, you go from one type of gun to another which is different. My draw to first shot is more accurate and faster with my VP9SK than my micro 9's. There's a place for micro 9's but I think if you are willing to carry just a tiny bit more and be more effective, I'd do that.

[@keithgraham9547]

A couple years ago I evaluated my choices in light of all the riots and mass shooters, etc. I sold a 1.5" barrel 22lr and 380 I used for summer carry. I already carried a Glock 30SF in sweatshirt weather. I upgraded to a Glock 33 and a SIG P229, both in 357 SIG. Personally, I think 9mm sucks. Ask yourself, if I HAVE to make a 40-50 yard shot against a perp in body armor and/or with a rifle, am I confident of engaging that perp with a micro 9? If you are, great. If you aren't, I agree with you about up sizing.

[@allbee83]

Nice video with the best here IMO. Some of these not true micro which you said (?). And some equipped with things that turn them into not true micro. Orig. Sig p365 best to me in this category anyway. You seem like a Glock lover (among many others). Made an excuse for 43x not maybe being a true micro 9 but feeling better in hands. And putting in a realm of it's own (lol to me). Sig, then Hellcat, then Smith or FN to me. Glock in discussion but at lower end of all top ten lists personally.

[@keylargojoe62]

Your channel rocks dude keep up the good work!!

[@spnfirearms]

Thanks man, I really appreciate that man. Respect

[@AHustle29]

Smith & Wesson CSX one of my favorite firearms I own. Ergos are on point and surprisingly not too snappy for a gun that small. Also love that it is a fully metal 1911 style hammer fire pistol. Don’t let the internet scare you away from this pretty cool piece folks!

[@spnfirearms]

I agree! Every time I have posted about this video, it’s been a positive review. I love it. Respect

[@Gl0ckb1te]

I cant stand that it isnt getting more love, id like to see a performance center version of it with a rail and optics, and 3.7inch or so barrel. I would buy both versions.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@Gl0ckb1tethat would be cool, I’d like to see them try to improve that trigger to get it where people don’t think it does what they say, and make it a 2.0 with those updates. I love the look of it personally.

[@10oner]

U guys are goody af. Ur whole life is social media

[@virenpatel9973]

I have a reflex as my edc. Range safety officer suggested I try rent it as I have a memeber ship and holy crap the csx is surprisingly good. I also tried all the other big brand names tried here and disliked them all compared to my reflex but that csx was something crazy. So small yet so accurate and ergonomic.

[@deucedeuce1572]

You have an R7 Mako? I thought you did for some reason, but didn't see it here. Not sure if they're good or not, because so few people have them... but they look like great guns and I really like that they have their own unique design. I'm sure they're not the first firearm to ever function with a rotating breech like that, but it's definitely different than any other guns I ever see people carrying these days... and I can't recall any that are very similar. I think the 5.7 and the Deserve Eagle have a slightly similar design, but I think they're more like an AR than the Mako though.

[@kendric98]

Hard to rate that pile. They are all so good for diferent reasons.

[@steven3379]

Nah... Just lump all the Glocks, then the Springfield', then the S&W, then everything else. These ARE NOT in ranking order! 😂

[@RicardoCray]

@@steven3379they’re actually all good

[@714SNF]

Nice collection! I just picked up a Shield Plus and waiting for the ODG G26 to get in-stock.

[@spnfirearms]

Very nice choices! Respect!

[@Markshoots]

Your content is awesome. Keep doing what you do.

[@spnfirearms]

I appreciate that greatly man, it keeps me driven. Respect and thanks for watching

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

I think if the Stoeger gets more aftermarket support it will shoot toward the top from almost review I’ve ever seen on it.

[@Iceberg82]

💯

[@dasshape00]

I love how the p365s r transformers with the X and xl

[@lukecurran5960]

Wondering where you'd put the HK CC9 now!

[@nazgulnarsil1336]

Which is the easiest to mag dump under stress? I feel like this is one of if not the primary thing carry pistols should be ranked on and no one talks about it.

[@melisnmatt35]

Check out the PSA MICRO DAGGER

[@R.A.111]

I love to pocket carry so the one I normally carry is my Ruger LCP Max, and sometimes sometimes I carry Shield plus , but when I go back to my Taurus gx4 it feels so good in the hands especially with a pinky extension. Thank you for your content.

[@Gl0ckb1te]

Shield plus or gx4, which one is best?

[@bnolsen]

Carried a shield for several years and gx4 for 2. I think the shield is a slightly better pistol but my shield both the rear sights and the roll pin rust on me. The gx4 finish does get beat up but zero rust anywhere, my first rust free carry piece (that includes hk usp, Glock).

[@R.A.111]

@@Gl0ckb1teI love them both ,but for me ,I can shoot the Shield better its like shooting a bigger gun, the GX4 i can shoot well but it's snappier, but I love pocket carrying it.

[@R.A.111]

@@The_Watchful_Eyes i have been thinking of getting that one as well since I keep hearing good things about. The one I use for my Max is the DeSantis.

[@BigGoat313]

Can you do a video with the Hellcat pro slide on the OG Hellcat frame and see how it shoots

[@swspeaks49]

Good review. Like you said, each gun is different and each gun owner has their own preference as to what they like or don’t I’ve shot a number of the guns you showed in the video and I might place one or another over or under what you did, but it’s just my opinion. Keep up the good work.

[@samde]

I loved the feel of the CSX, how it carried, the felt recoil, but I ended up selling it because I could not shoot it well. With my 43x I can get A zone at 15 yards all day but with the CSX, I could not.. skill issue really. I put about 400 rounds through the CSX and never got comfortable shooting it and decided to just keep carrying the 43x.

[@VentureNW]

The main issue, with Stoeger right now, is they come with 1 magazine and due to this... they are sold out all over the place

[@PeteJab]

Man, I thought I was crazy when I was shooting low and left with my FN Reflex and you exposing that other people were having the same issue only confirms it.

[@jonathanmenendez3515]

Out lf curiosity how many pistols do you own? It has to be at least close to 50 or so.

[@abelguzman8254]

Is the Glock 26 still your favorite handgun?

[@hollow6178]

It’s funny with the reflex it’s like the factory sights are off but when you put a red dot the low left iron sight problem disappears

[@DarthRex4]

do a review on a shadow systems cr920p it would be interesting to see where it lands on the list when you try it

[@D-A-1776]

Glad I'm not the only person who loves the micro 9s

[@benjaminsperos742]

could you review the p15 from keltec? you have great videos keep up the good work

[@spnfirearms]

I’ll add it to the list! And thank you, I appreciate comments like that. Only working on getting better, lots more to come. Respect

[@realwelder3529]

I have the Hellcat Pro and it's the tits! Very accurate, easy to field strip, and the sights are excellent.

[@kenjihiten4865]

Great video! I had always just thought micro 9s where all just slimmer guns lol. I love shooting my cr920, its the best gun that i shoot with. To me thats the most comfortable grip. I have two different p365s and when i when to shoot my friend's 43x im more accurate with that then my sigs 😂. Maybe a bit of bias. Keep up the good work.

[@spnfirearms]

Haha fair enough. I need to get a shadow systems soon. Respect and thanks for watching

[@kenjihiten4865]

@@spnfirearms I will say it's probably a bit of a gamble since honest outlaw and Brett from night wood guns had had problems with the cr920.

[@THEREALD4DDYK1NGP1N]

Awesome content as usual SPN! My top 3 micro 9mm that I tend to carry the most would be: 1. Springfield Hellcat Stainless 2. FN 503 3. Kimber Micro 9 KHX Keep up the great work and content! Always look forward to your videos! Great minds think alike! 👊🏻🩸🥇💯🇺🇸

[@johnq.chewning9360]

Have you had a problem with the 13 round mag on the shield plus? Someone else had a problem that when you already have a round in the head it jams the first round in the mag

[@JeremyMcCreary-ib7wo]

Great list, but can't believe the gx4 is so low, I like mine more than all the rest except my 43 x

[@shanetritt3656]

Im so up in the air on which micro 9 to get. I really wanna give that gforce rapture 9 a shot

[@johnjenkins6653]

Great show. Nice collection.

[@spnfirearms]

Thank you man, I appreciate that. Respect!

[@justinsnow3979]

I normally carry the sig p365 with a 12 round mag. If I have to go smaller I go lcp max. If I want bigger I go with my Glock 19. ✌️

[@spnfirearms]

All great choices man! I respect it. Thanks for watching

[@justinsnow3979]

I also bought the canik mete mc9 and put a holosun on it. Haven’t shot it enough to carry it yet, but wow is it the most accurate pistol I ever ever shot.

[@dextermorgan7764]

You don’t consider the g26/27 a micro compact?

[@Gl0ckb1te]

Sub compact. It is too wide

[@Gl0ckb1te]

S&w needs a CSX performance center, with a rail, optics, and longer barrel. Either 3.7 or 4 inches ported. It would be perfect

[@needlamp2147]

It's perfect the way it is

[@Gl0ckb1te]

@@needlamp2147 i actually agree, its just that i like to have a bug and, a larger tricked out one. So i would buymore than one, im doing just that with the p365 but want a hammer fire 1911 esque style.

[@D-A-1776]

Hellcat and shield plus are my top 2 packet carry backup carry guns

[@hybridmultimedia6436]

Bro, Great fuking Job I subbed. Im a new shooter and you are super helpful with all the kool guy show off shit other channels seem to waist time on. Dooe thank you.

[@TheOutside84]

Hey Spn. How frequently do you clean your firing pin area? I run a shield plus, I field strip and clean every use. I'm 2000 rounds in and haven't cleaned my firing pin other than sticking a q tip or smaller brush in as far as it goes with out actually removing it.

[@spnfirearms]

I clean it maybe every couple hundred rounds. It generally stays pretty clean but if it’s your main carry keeping it clean is your best bet!

[@jl3449]

I went from the Ruger EC9S to LCP2 to GX4 and now settled on the 43x and Max 9. Home defense will still be the reliable Glock 23.

[@Gl0ckb1te]

Hows the gx4 measure up against the max9?

[@jl3449]

@@Gl0ckb1te I like the Max9 more because I can shoot more accurately with it and also can pop in the 12 round mag. GX4 had the drop safe recall that I sent in and got back. Not sure if I trust it for EDC anymore.

[@davidsida3546]

What do you think about a 30 super carry?

[@spnfirearms]

I shot a rental shield plus and I loved it. Similar fireball as .357 sig. I would like to buy one I’m the future. Great capacity and great ballistics

[@jumpingtarzan3207]

Serious question. How do you afford all of these guns? That's the life right there keep at it man. 🙏🏼👍🏼

[@nickypeeps93]

The 43/43x and the shield 1.0/2.0 are the most proven micros out there. That little Walther is good too.

[@spnfirearms]

These are stack and half micro 9’s only

[@justinsnow3979]

I’d say the p365 is also pretty proven at this point.

[@lousquitieri4234]

Enjoying the comparison!

[@spnfirearms]

Thanks for watching man! Respect as always

[@lousquitieri7098]

@@spnfirearms yeh man

[@williammorrill8268]

Have you looked at the P10M?

[@TheOutside84]

Popping it out and a quick wipe?

[@oleboy7615]

Easy: M&P9 Shield Plus, Glock 43X. That’s it!

[@34dawgsgo]

No doubt I think differently now after you had issues with the 365. It all comes down to personal preference and what you like. End of story.

[@spnfirearms]

Well said man, respect and thanks for watching

[@badideaman]

Wheen I leave the house, my Smith & Wesson CSX goes with my. More than 1,000 rounds over the 18 months I've had the gun and not one failure.

[@dasshape00]

Anyone were do you all buy parts? I need a barrel for my mossburg Maverick shotty. Can't find it in stock anywhere. Been looking for a year

[@grominwithrob1339]

I would like to see the Stoeger in stainless!👍👍🙏🙏

[@CanikPlease]

Sucks so bad u got a lemon mc9. I got 1400 though mine and its been perfect. Such an awesome gun. Especially with my taylor freelance backstrap in it. I shoot it so dam consistent now. My p365 is for sale now lol.

[@rjcavazos89]

I came just to hear "it is what it is". I am not disappointed.

[@danielledimichele333]

I came for "on point!" 😅

[@stepheno.2730]

No p10m?

[@propblast82nd]

Are all Hellcat Pro models compensated ?

[@spnfirearms]

No sir! None of them. The rdp version is the original! Respect

[@propblast82nd]

@@spnfirearms Thanks 👍

[@brianferguson7483]

i live in MS and it gets hot asf here so what would you recommend for a good summer carry? something light, can fit in a gym shorts pockets of needed, etc

[@BulletBoat]

None of those, except the lcp max are gonna feel comfy in gym shorts.

[@brianferguson7483]

@BulletBoat cool cool. do u have one personally? also do u have any other options?

[@MattJones-gb9jt]

For my pocket carry I’ve found j-frame revolvers fit the bill well. They’re naturally curvy so there isn’t many snag points especially if you get one without the hammer spur. The cylinder also provides slight standoff so you can really get a good grip. I carry everything from a .22lr, .22wmr and .38. For .38’s I’d recommend wadcutter or semi wadcutters traveling anywhere from 650-750 fps. The recoil is much more tame with those loads. For the ..22’s just go with regular fun to ensure adequate penetration. Hope this helps.

[@brianferguson7483]

@MattJones-gb9jt that did more than help. I usually carry my p365xl. since it's been winter I've had no problem wearing jeans but this southern heat don't play. preciate it

[@romans6two338]

Ruger LCP is super lite, but after 7 years I switched to SW 642 and never looked back it's great.

[@JoshuaLischerelli]

Just because this is how I am too me the sig p365 is one if not the best micro 9m pistol you would be mistaken to say you don’t trust the sig only because you don’t have a lot of experience you need to get the experience because honestly no gun shoots as good as the sig p365 does. But to each their own

[@spnfirearms]

I have 4 p365’s and 2 of them had serious malfunctions and had to go back to sig. I have over 30 glocks, never had to send a single pistol back. That’s experience, When you have malfunctions that would have costed me my life. I’ll never carry a p365. So many firearms shoot better.. the shield plus, Glock 26, Stoeger MC, canik mc9 etc.

[@JoshuaLischerelli]

@@spnfirearms well I do have experience wether you think I have it or not and what about the 2 other ones you have have you ever had issues with those, and what if a Glock failed would you carry that after sending it to get it fixed?

[@Iceberg82]

🚨NEED A NEW UPDATE LIST AGAIN 👍🏼🔥

[@dasshape00]

Question for you all Just bought a lcp2 max Ran 50 square nose shitty rounds thur it. But 2 times it didn't go all the way back into battery. I had to push it up. Now I Took it out of box and went to town didn't clean it didn't lube it. And it seemed offal dry. For a new gun. You guns think it need lubed or just broke in? Also this ammo I've had problems with in other guns. That's why I test with it. Now my glovks eat it no problem. 😂 I'm starting to think they gave me a used gun. I've never seen one that was stopped up in oil out of the box. I ran a box of 25 hollow points and it ran them just fine

[@rodroller3328]

It happens. I bought a brand new S&W 22 rifle that I know was brand new (I work for distributor) and broke it down and looked before shooting. I was surprised to find some small particles in the barrel and a long polymer shaving in the receiver bolt path. Ran some cleaner and a wipe thru the barrel and wiped out the receiver and had no more issues.

[@guynall4025]

Awesome video

[@dasshape00]

Was gonna buy the shield plus after the p365 I 1st bought and it's grip is fat. I have a smaller hand and it didn't feel good. But it shot the best of any gun I've ever shot. Now I've only shot like 20 different kinds. I almost bought the Hellcat 2 times. Went with p365 and the p365x and the p365xl😂

[@BamBlamboTv]

Truth the hellcat pro holds 15 rounds in a flush mag.

[@spnfirearms]

The hellcat pro holds 15 with the flush mag..

[@BamBlamboTv]

@@spnfirearms well ill be...

[@dasshape00]

I dont know enough to argue about weapons😂 I depend of videos and comments to learn. Then a buy a gun. Put 200 rds thur it on 1st day. And if I don't like it I'll trade or sell it and move on

[@hawk_eye_view]

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[@banderson5676]

You must hate the P365.

[@draconus787]

So... it a tie?😂

[@lee.isaac.richard]

Cool vid

[@dasshape00]

Arguing good for mass comments which is good for numbers. 😂

[@Flyingtiger1726]

GF9 Rapture 🙂

[@TheOutside84]

#shieldplusgang

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

Good evening SPN I see many folks commenting here about the great job you do. I totally agree. Your channel rocks! Between your family, job and channel, I don’t know how you do it all! That being said, you show that hard work and determination pay off. I’m happy and proud of you brother! Thank you SPN 🫡 💯

[@spnfirearms]

Wow man, this comments means a lot. I just give everything my all. It’s draining, it’s not always easy, I struggle a lot but it’s all worth it in the end. I work hard and love my family and that’s why I do it. The people who watch the channel are just awesome (except for a couple terrible hating comments every now and then) and are a big reason I continue. Respect and thank you so much.

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

@@spnfirearms You got it brother! I like how you showcase your firearms, but I love how you emphasis why you carry. As you already know, it’s because you are your family’s protector. SPN, I really dig that! Take care and I hope y’all have a wonderful evening. 👊🏻💯

[@tootactborii]

You seem like just a 365 hater there’s no way most of those are better it was the #1 selling pistol for a time for a reason

[@spnfirearms]

Grown men not being able to handle someone’s preference or opinion is just crazy…..

[@Horgler]

It was number one because SIG beat everyone else to the punch. Aside from the H11/Hellcat, it took a couple years for the competition to catch up.

[@dasshape00]

Gxr nice

[@djlu3011]

I'll be honest. Smaller guns are good for concealment. But sometimes, I like to feel like a superhero, or a supervillain, and carry a bigger sized gun. Like...I dont feel like a john wick or a spike spiegel, or a john McLane, or the terminator, when I'm carrying my sig p365. How am I supposed to sit in my truck. Smoke a cigar. And feel like a badass with a micro pistol? Naw. Im going to need a big steel frame pistol, you know...maybe my sig p226, and make this shit feel like an 80s movie.

[@3Pillers]

👍

[@dhardy6654]

Idol worship. Always have to go buy more idols.

[@deusvult6632]

No Canik?

[@danielledimichele333]

Mc9

[@Mike-Olds-1]

👍