Ranking the Galactic Powers of Stargate | Hyperpowers, Great Powers, Regional Powers & Minor Powers

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@TemplinInstitute
@TemplinInstitute 2 жыл бұрын
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@aaroncutting
@aaroncutting 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys send one of your researchers to the alternate world of Falling Skies? I'd be curious to see your take on it.
@pronumeral1446
@pronumeral1446 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the Aschen and Tokra were both absent from your rankings. Good video otherwise.
@jamesgaddis6189
@jamesgaddis6189 2 жыл бұрын
The Wraith are either a Superpower or still a Hyperpower. Labeling them a Great Power is premature. The Genii are still weak in comparison and the SGC left the Pegasus galaxy. There are no true rivals to the Wraith. However, the status quo will continue. But the SGC should always remember, "Wraith are never-ending". They know about Earth and are unlikely to give up. Todd (the Wraith) knows this, as does the SGC.
@myrddinemrys1332
@myrddinemrys1332 2 жыл бұрын
Asurans. Not Asurians.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 жыл бұрын
There's another factor with the Goa'uld not considered in the video unfortunately; most of the Goa'uld technology was basically stolen from the Ancients. Meaning most Goa'uld didn't even know how it worked entirely and could not improve upon it, just replicate it. It really explains why they were so stagnant and adds another big reason why they have virtually no industrial worlds beyond even technology suppression.
@iancalandro8180
@iancalandro8180 2 жыл бұрын
The Free Jaffa Nation in 1997 was just Teal'c. so clearly an undisputed hyper power.
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@AkalaTanara
@AkalaTanara 2 жыл бұрын
@@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter -raises eyebrow-
@RockyX456
@RockyX456 2 жыл бұрын
Teal'c AND Master Bratac. It was Bratac who fostered the hostile Goauld sentiments in him to begin with during his years of training after all.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockyX456 There were other disillusioned Jaffa like Garek though they did not openly rebel against their Goa'uld masters until after Teal'c and SG1 had weakened the Goa'uld.
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockyX456 *speaks softly with great reverence and a slightly bowed head* Indeed. . .
@vaniellys
@vaniellys 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'm gonna agree, but I'm just happy to see people make Stargate content.
@anarchosnowflakist786
@anarchosnowflakist786 2 жыл бұрын
this makes me want to watch it again !
@Zeknif1
@Zeknif1 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@Dark__Thoughts
@Dark__Thoughts 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. My opinion is simply that I miss Stargate. SGU obviously wasn't great but I think there was and still is a lot of potential left. The wraiths were also kind of a slow burn but the ori era was pretty awesome again.
@dadalablade
@dadalablade 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i want to watch it again too
@Lomhow
@Lomhow 2 жыл бұрын
Totally true, I'm just glad people remember it existed
@greganator111
@greganator111 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved how Amanda Tapping reacted to Richard Dean Anderson horrible muzzle safety in the "This is a weapon of war" speech.
@Spartan1312
@Spartan1312 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah given the right conditions he could have beaten Alec Baldwin to the shot.
@greganator111
@greganator111 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spartan1312 At least Unlike Baldwin, RDA has proper trigger discipline.
@Spartan1312
@Spartan1312 2 жыл бұрын
@@greganator111 Yeah and the production was not retarded and did not have live ammo on set.
@GRODON7
@GRODON7 2 жыл бұрын
I showed that video to so many people it's so funny
@lucascoval828
@lucascoval828 2 жыл бұрын
@@greganator111 "ALEC, NOOOOO!!!!!"
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 2 жыл бұрын
Those Goolds are a pain in the neck. I don’t know how the Jaffa could stomach them for so long.
@revan0890
@revan0890 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Also Goa'uld
@TemplinInstitute
@TemplinInstitute 2 жыл бұрын
*pain in the stomach
@NimbleBard48
@NimbleBard48 2 жыл бұрын
nooice!
@herdsire90210
@herdsire90210 2 жыл бұрын
Goo's a hyperpower 👀
@roundbrick4890
@roundbrick4890 2 жыл бұрын
The Goo-Allds
@Zoten001
@Zoten001 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that when Earth sticks it's nose out into the galaxy, we just destabilize and wreak havoc on the powers that be.
@hulmhochberg8129
@hulmhochberg8129 2 жыл бұрын
Ofc humans are space orcs.
@stephenkenney8290
@stephenkenney8290 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, SGC operations for many years could be summed up with two words. LEROY JENKINS!!!
@zobblewobble1770
@zobblewobble1770 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we were basically the Sea people in a Galactic version of the Bronze Age Collapse (for non-history-nerds, Bronze Age collapse was a 50 year period starting in 1200bc where several great civilizations were destroyed, Egypt and Greece had a dark age, and mysterious nomads known as the Sea people wrecked everyone)
@pseudonym9599
@pseudonym9599 2 жыл бұрын
Humans are space orcs.
@cheeseninja1115
@cheeseninja1115 2 жыл бұрын
@@zobblewobble1770 that's probably the best way to describe the events of SG. Also love the fact that WE are the Sea People this time
@michaellewis1545
@michaellewis1545 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few show were Earth beating the advance empire actually makes sense.
@allengilbert7463
@allengilbert7463 2 жыл бұрын
The show put in the work, showing the characters experimenting with the new technology and incorporating it.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
Except it doesn't. Sadly authors dropped the ball heavily by just deleting all other galactic powers and gifting all the tech in one stroke. Universe was trying to be BSG 2.0, but main series was denied becoming new Deep Space 9/Babylon 5 with diplomatic focus. Asurans and hybrids should have been stuck in Cold War over Pegasus, while both fighting Wraiths. Meanwhile Goa'uld should have still stayed a threat in Milky Way, just with a set borders so conflict between Earth/Asgard and System Lord's would have gone through the Free Jaffa Nation and Lucien Alliance(should I remind you that Goa'uld were infiltrating SGC and Earth whenever they wanted with no problem?).
@Saiyan0X
@Saiyan0X 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArklyte It makes sense, specially with the Goa'uld, since their whole structure was easy to be destroyed, since they are not unified and were at war with each other, and specially with the Replicators focusing on them, as the mayor power in the Milky Way. They began infiltrating Earth because they realized they couldn't beat them head on, which forced them to use methods they are not used to. Asurans would have been more trouble, but they decided to remain in one planet, and you know what happen in the end. The Wraith kind of have the same troubles like the Goa'uld in that they are not unified, but battling each other. Makes sense "smaller" powers like Earth took advantage of it and remained low, gaining new tech, and now that they hit the motherload with Asgard Tech, they become the top dog. Also, their R&D departments were VERY effective. They were not X-Com levels of research, but to be able to build a functioning spaceship using some alien tech (Prometeus) and then be able to reproduce Asgard-level tech after getting their technology in just a few years is quite impressive.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saiyan0X 1)just like authors you have no idea what feudal, caste and slave societies are and how they work. No matter how many Goa'uld leaders you'd kill, there will ALWAYS be someone right beneath them to take their place. Yes, their territories would splinter, but the Goa'uld in general would not lose territory. They're still controlling the galaxy at large. Jaffa aren't slaves, they're servants and sometimes slave owners. Jaffa and humans aren't on the same level in power hierarchy of Goa'uld and high position ones like Tealc were even higher then some Goa'uld. Have people forgotten existence of expendable Goa'uld assassins? Closer comparisons for Jaffa would be samurai and janissary classes(the latter ones ironically started as slave soldiers before rapidly turning balance of power on its head). You must also realize that damage done to Goa'uld colonies by Replicators translates directly to human and jaffa population and even basic biomes of Milky Way. Remember all those full of life and Canada looking worlds SG-1 visited, that were painfully slow terraformed by seeder ships like Destiny? They're all gone, devoid of life or completely devoured for raw resources by Replicators. Countless trillions dead... IF the show had remembered about that. It didn't. Nobody talks about aftermath of Replicator invasion. Goa'uld were infiltrating the show at any point they wanted. Snatch captain of Prometheus on Atlantis mission? Okay. And Lucien Alliance continued to do so after that. Meaning that Earth is simply incapable of defending itself from infiltration. 2)yes, show authors had written themselves into the corner and made Asurans the same as Replicators. I guess Wraith and Asgard are the same as they're both biological. So they killed them off just like all other inconvenient plot points. Show constantly did it. And then constantly returned killed off factions when authors needed them to resolve something once again. Asgard came back in Atlantis under other name, Lucien Alliance is just Goa'uld stand in because authors realized that they lack a season villain. 3)X-301 was impressive, Daedalus was impressive, Prometheus was impressive(though questionable in design as a ship). Getting Asgard tech for free WASN'T. It was undeserved. Haha, now you have most advanced tech ever. Without SG programm even becoming known to populace. Woohoo \/(-_-)\/
@Thuazabi
@Thuazabi 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArklyte cry harder. Every fictional universe makes use of contrivances, and your beloved DS9 and BSG we're full of just as many eye rolling examples.
@ARQYN
@ARQYN 2 жыл бұрын
Stargate was such a major part of my childhood, loved all the world building and lore aspects. It's so awesome seeing being kept alive by fans to this day!
@raideurng2508
@raideurng2508 2 жыл бұрын
The implication that our nonstop shitshow of warfare on Earth is actually very rare and puts us in a somewhat unusual position was always an interesting take.
@ausaskar
@ausaskar 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, there's been a few episodes with worlds with rival nation states like Earth. Like the uhh... "bad people" in the Fuhrerbunker and those people in a three way Cold War and the other world having a historical conflict as to whether the Star Gate actually existed or was just a myth.
@Jesus_Offical
@Jesus_Offical 2 жыл бұрын
@@ausaskar man the bad pepole in the "fuhrerbunker" one i found so upsetting If SG1 had showed just a little patience they coud have had their cake and eat it two
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jesus_Offical They willingly gave up the technology they got for free essentially. Wasnt even the only time it happened, just one of the most egregious. Technology is technology, I always disliked how picky they were, and it was still rewarded in the end. Sure, its a moral story in the end, but we ALL know the US military (or any other earthern state) wouldnt bat an eye acquiring technology from space genociders.
@chrisbuckley7345
@chrisbuckley7345 2 жыл бұрын
In the context of the known galaxy of SG-1, it makes sense. The worlds where the Goa'uld had control weren't allowed to engage in ongoing warfare. Hard on the slave count, and teaches bad habits. And since they seeded the known human worlds and killed off most other minor powers, that pretty much leaves the other 1st-gen powers. The Asgard are so monolithic that even a "minor" criminal like Loki is a big deal, and the others are either pacifists-in-hiding or extinct.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Жыл бұрын
@@Jesus_Offical operation paperclip two, airforce boogaloo
@ryandowsing5838
@ryandowsing5838 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Tok'ra should have been included, especially over the Jaffa Nation or Lucian Alliance in 1997. However understand why they were probably left out. Other than that really enjoyed seeing Stargate content!
@alexanderrahl7034
@alexanderrahl7034 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, I'm only like, 8 or 9 seasons deep into SG1. But so far it looks like the Tok'ra are pretty much out of the race. It's never definitively stated how many or how big they are, just that they are small and covert. But the previous seasons have shown Anubis, Ba'al, and Osiris stomp the hell out of them something fierce, to the point where I genuinely thought they had pretty broken, but they kept coming up in the show. The Free Jaffa too seemed down and out, but Teal'c managed to keep recruiting them seemingly as fast as they died. Which felt a bit ex machina to me.
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 2 жыл бұрын
The Tok'Ra have no way of reproducing since they don't have queens so they're probably going to go extinct in a few hundred years. Unless they figure out a way to clone their original queen or get a non-evil queen from the Goa'uld's original homeworld.
@JonathanLundkvist
@JonathanLundkvist 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderrahl7034 I would say the Tokra and Free Jaffa prob merged at some point.
@alexanderrahl7034
@alexanderrahl7034 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanLundkvist I know they tried to work together. But sometime around season 6 or 7 they broke their alliance with the tau'ri and split off because neither of them could stand working with the other
@Predator42ID
@Predator42ID 2 жыл бұрын
In Continuum the Tokra are shown to have finally settled down in their own world with their own city. However, as the death of Selmec shows, the Tokra at this rate will be extinct in a few years to decades leaving only the human hosts to carry on their name.
@uss_04
@uss_04 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the arc of SG-1 and Atlantis. All the progress the Tau’ri made felt earned over time
@Jesus_Offical
@Jesus_Offical 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahs
@occultatumquaestio5226
@occultatumquaestio5226 2 жыл бұрын
For the most part I *indeed* would agree with most of the positions with 2 notable exceptions. 1.) In SG Atlantis, this is that one surviving faction of rogue Asgard who I'd consider to be a small power. 2.) There's still the question of post-Ori Human civs & whether or not they're unified (thus hyper) or divided (various levels) in their galaxy. This has been a delightful addition to the "Ranking Galactic Powers" series. I look forward to the next one.
@dominic.h.3363
@dominic.h.3363 2 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt that the Ori even allowed the use of the stargates, let alone have any DHD if they can just dial using their staff. I think it's safe to say that they left a bunch of planetary societies with no way of contact between them, therefore they are not on this scale. As for the Vanir as the rogue Asgard were called, however unscrupulous they are, they are completely disinterested in any dealings but their own, so regardless of their technological capabilities, they are not a power, because they have absolutely no intention to project it on any scale.
@dominic.h.3363
@dominic.h.3363 2 жыл бұрын
@@leodouskyron5671 In the entirety of season 9 and 10 I've never seen any off-worlder on any of the Ori planets who weren't soldiers or priors themselves. You dismiss how useful it is to keep communities isolated to keep any deviance from the preferred way of life to a smaller group. Once you turn travel into a galactic free-for-all, there is no way you can enforce order, and reacting to an undesirable occurrence after the fact with free travel leaves no way of knowing whether it has already spread to different places or not. For total ideological control, which the Ori were kinda big on, preventing Stargate travel is a very reasonable thing to do.
@occultatumquaestio5226
@occultatumquaestio5226 2 жыл бұрын
​@@dominic.h.3363 ; I would point out that they would still have their FTL capable spaceships and knowledge how to use them. Even after _Ark of Truth._ So whether or not they have a Stargate network is not really relevant. And the Ori themselves are no longer around to prevent anything. Hence why any analysis of a Post-SG1 galaxy is speculative and hence my query on it. As for the Vanir, no intention of power projection is not the same as no ability. And regardless they still are projecting power over the entire star system they control. Which was more than what the SGC was capable of in 1997 and likely comparable to any potential Goa'uld remnants. So yeah, as I said, they are a small power.
@dominic.h.3363
@dominic.h.3363 2 жыл бұрын
@@occultatumquaestio5226 No and no. The Ori ships were flown via mind control. Without being in possession of their now former powers as Priors, these people have absolutely no way of using that technology. If you don't see the level of restriction the Ori put on their technology and call it speculative, you haven't watched the show carefully enough.
@nobleman9393
@nobleman9393 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominic.h.3363 I don't remember the Priors losing their powers.
@kpadalldotablet1009
@kpadalldotablet1009 2 жыл бұрын
I just wish they had had another season of Atlantis. Man, what a great series.
@cavveman
@cavveman 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree here. The last episode felt so rushed. That could have benefited from being 2 episodes or more to be fair. Also, I miss Destiny, by the time it got shut down it really started to become really good.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
There was a 6th season planned, I recall even episodes were planned out for the most part. There are also a bunch of books closing down Pegasus story, so it did end, and I would think thats canon. Agreed on SGU. It had potential, and it was getting good.
@Khronogi
@Khronogi 2 жыл бұрын
All of them should have kept going. I even liked the 9th and 10th seasons of sg1. Sure it felt like a spinoff or sequel, but it was still fun.
@enderkool
@enderkool 2 жыл бұрын
yeah stargate really went to an abrupt end. in 2008 ppl were expecting plenty of SG1 movies, 6th season of atlantis, and a new show. by 2010 the SG1 movies were scrapped, atlantis didn’t get a 6th season OR movie, and SGU was cancelled.
@chrisk3127
@chrisk3127 2 жыл бұрын
if only MGM didn't go bankrupt
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
Stargate Galactic Powers love to go for a walk. A very enthusiastic walk.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
And SGC loves to take them for a walk and shoot them in a dark alley.
@yonirais4699
@yonirais4699 2 жыл бұрын
Stargate is one of my all time favorite franchises I feel like it is not appreciated enough in our time I would love to see you make more content about it I would especially enjoy a video dedicated to the goauld and their empire
@Stukov961
@Stukov961 2 жыл бұрын
Got some symbols wrong here. For the Asurans you're using the Tau'ri symbol, I.E. the symbol for Earth (which would probably have been better to use for earth since SGC remains a US thing throughout, falling under Homeworld Command following other nations being let in on the secret) For the Free Jaffa Nation you're using Apophis' symbol. It may be the forehead brand both Teal'c and Bra'tac bear, but it's still a Goa'uld symbol. And for the Lucian alliance you're using Montu's symbol, a minor Goa'uld serving Ba'al. It's the forehead brand on Gerak, the Free Jaffa leader that got turned by the Ori.
@chrisbuckley7345
@chrisbuckley7345 2 жыл бұрын
Do any of those orgs have a known symbology? If not, the creator came up with something more-or-less reasonable for each.
@Stukov961
@Stukov961 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbuckley7345 Lucian Alliance has a flag. The other two have no known symbols. My suggestion would be to use Montu's symbol for Free Jaffa, as the only time we see the symbol in the show it's on the forehead of a Free Jaffa leader. For the Asurans, I'd probably just use a letter of the Lantean writing as seen for example on the steps in the Atlantis gate room.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just say my favorite thing about Stargate is how it developed the balls to completely upset the status quo? For the first few seasons it felt like they were going to keep hammering the reset button and repeating "Humanity isn't ready!" to make sure they kept things sticking to the premise. But then the show went for it and humanity ends up running literal fleets of warships. My only disappointment is they never actually revealed to humanity what was going on; I think by the end of the series, they really should have.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
There was a movie planned (amongst like 3 others) where they would finally reveal things, and that'd have been basically the end of SG1. SGU would have likely included any new status quo, if it kept going. I agree, a shame people never found out. Although by 2010, most notable powers on Earth knew about it. Id imagine any government people who would sooner or later go civilian, coupled with all the 'conspiracy theorists' of that Earth, even notable ones like the billionare guy who Sam dealt with, would sooner or later leak enough critical info for the governments to have to step up and tell the truth.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
agreed. I can only imagine the impact it would have. I envisioned something like humanity starting to expand a lot more. The stargate on earth being only used as a logistical gate linking to other earth controlled worlds with the goal of always pushing as much resources/people through back and forth, like at an important train terminal (and I'd even use train like vehicles to do so). The first worlds (ie the ones Earth would directly link up with) would be mostly logistical hubs that then would spread the resources/people to/from/between colonies (transit ports essentially) and SGC would also be moved offworld. Hell, I can't understand SGC wasn't moved offworld already. Afterall any potential breach would then be limited to another planet and people with hostile intentions wouldn't easily found out Earth gate adress. Even early diplomatic meetings should never take place on earth. Ofcourse it limits potential storylines, but the intrusions and dangerous tech going haywire was already done enough anyway.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
@@MDP1702 Fair point on off-world bases. In later seasons, they did take some dangerous stuff to those first, though. Like Replicarter or the Ori bugs.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grivehn Yeah, it just wasn't taken far enough. These bases usually were pretty limited.
@AlBoulley
@AlBoulley 8 ай бұрын
The Fifth Race - IMHO a top 5 episode!!
@italianspaghett4359
@italianspaghett4359 2 жыл бұрын
I love the "we have some... shuttles" clip so much
@avsbes98
@avsbes98 2 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see a few more factions, such as the Tokra, Tolan, Aschen, Replicators, etc. I also really love this type of videos and would like to see more of them, especially for some of the Universes i care about, such as Babylon 5, Battletech and Mass Effect (all of those should obviously also use the same format as this video, ranking the powers at different points in time).
@pepps779
@pepps779 2 жыл бұрын
Bit surprised the Tok'ra, Aschen, and Replicators did not make the list, when the Asurans, Genii, and Lucian Alliance were included.
@dominic.h.3363
@dominic.h.3363 2 жыл бұрын
@@pepps779 Replicators were wiped out. Also they are technological vermin, a force of nature, locusts, not a power. Aschen still can't dial the gate beyond their local group and are in a heap of trouble depending on where they dialed the black hole from. Tok'ra have absolutely no identity that ever went beyond "we hate the Goa'uld", so they have absolutely no plan whatsoever what to do with themselves on a galactic scale with them gone. They all are symbionts descended from a single now dead queen, so they are just as much a dying species as the Asgard, because the rest of the Goa'uld are still homicidal maniacs. They literally made this a point, the fact that they can't replenish their ranks, in an episode. They were all missing from this list for very good reasons.
@spencersmith5949
@spencersmith5949 2 жыл бұрын
Weren't the Tolan the ones with the ion cannons that got destroyed by the Goa'uld?
@pepps779
@pepps779 2 жыл бұрын
@@spencersmith5949 Yep
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon 2 жыл бұрын
Weren’t the Replicators also fully destroyed by 2010? (Unless you mean including them in 1997.)
@westrim
@westrim 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely feel like this could have been a multipart video. There's at least a dozen strong contenders (that aren't just one-planet hermits like the guys we got naquadah reactors from) not included, like the Hebridians. Dividing it into a 1997 video and 2010 video, each with another few civilizations, seems warranted.
@robkemp598
@robkemp598 2 жыл бұрын
The Hebridians could easily have overtaken the Tau'ri and free jaffa. Sure their technology isn't Asgard level but they are stated to have other colonys outside of their homeworld. They could have used the stargate addresses earth gave them to set up mines, new colonys, orbital shipyards etc and outshined everyone without the gou'ald around. But hey Stargate exists to make the US air force look good not make sense 🤣🤣🤣
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Asurans were an interesting race. They were basically like the Replicators from the Milky Way only they took on human forms, with each body having their own personality, motivations and values like a fully fledged human being. And unlike the SG1 Replicators, they also used human technology, which in their case was the advanced technology of their creators, the Ancients. I really wish the show hadn't killed them off so quickly and almost effortlessly as they made for some very interesting antagonists. Also I feel bad for them because not all of them were murderous machines but sentient individuals who were fighting a war for their side (a war that the Atlantis Expedition forced upon them when they were just living in peace). I feel like the heroes of the show committed genocide when they wiped them all out.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
I'll upvote even if I find you assessment of Asurans wildly inaccurate. They're nothing like Replicators. Just as being biological doesn't make Wraith and Asgard the same either. Asurans are society of synths, whose culture and tech is that of Ancients. They're basically Ancients uploaded into nanomachine bodies(and robbed of psionics). Meanwhile Replicators is a devouring swarm of assimilators, Von Neumann machine gone wrong. Idk if you're familiar with Stellaris, but they're de facto two different outcomes of opening L-cluster. Gatebuilders vs Grey Tempest.
@GoranXII
@GoranXII 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArklyte The Asurans _are_ humanoid replicators, but that's as far as the similarity goes.
@AeneasGemini
@AeneasGemini 2 жыл бұрын
Is it still genocide when it's unavoidably us or them? The problem with the Asurans was that individuality was technologically supressed when it went against the will of the collective. The only Asurans who didn't pose a threat to humanity were the ones with Elizabeth that wanted to ascend, and even they had to hide their wishes. I don't know whether you'd call it genocide or not, but there's no arguing the fact that peaceful resolution was absolutely impossible. If it was evil then it was a necessary evil
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
@@AeneasGemini ah yes, necessary evil. The lie upon which all authoritarian regimes rest:D
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
@@AeneasGemini Genocide is defined as the deliberate annihilation of a targeted race of people. Now the Asurans weren't technically people as they were advanced AI, but they were sentient nevertheless and had thoughts, feelings, dreams and desires just like us. Also like us they had their own culture and sense of community and felt protective to their own people. Sure I suppose the fact that they were massacring the human population in the Pegasus Galaxy did force the Atlantis team's hand. That being said back on Earth they were developing a weapon in Area 51 that could wipe out all Replicators on the planet. Which means they were planning to wipe them all out even before Mackay flipped the kill switch on them.
@dominic.h.3363
@dominic.h.3363 2 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the few ranking videos, probably less than three, out of all the ones I ever watched, with which I fully agree on every single account. And the way you presented 2010 leaves some interesting things to consider. Like, can you really talk about a power vacuum when there is nobody left capable to fill it? The whole dynamics changed completely, not just the relative rankings.
@evilemuempire9550
@evilemuempire9550 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you pretty much just have earth, the free Jaffa, probably some minor system lords, and the cartels left, none of which really seem capable or willing to exert much force around the galaxy
@johnvak01
@johnvak01 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Love Stargate content.
@AviatorFox
@AviatorFox 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should have included the Milky Way / non-Asuran replicators, as they directly affected the fall of the Asgard, as well as the Goa'uld indirectly. Otherwise, I found your analysis to be impressive and highly accurate! I do think calling the Goa'uld in 1997 a hyperpower might be a bit generous, but definitely within the realm of possibility. I can't help but thinking that their control of the galaxy was nearly a joke compared to that of the Wraith and the assumed control the Ori had over their respective galaxies though.
@GoranXII
@GoranXII 2 жыл бұрын
The Milky Way Replicators barely exist in either time. the Ida Galaxy Replicators OTOH...
@jackmorris7755
@jackmorris7755 2 жыл бұрын
In 1997, it was a stretch. In 1994, with Ra being Supreme System Lord, it wasn't. Ra kept cohesion through superior strength and the combined fear of the minor lords. With his death above Abydos, the Go'a'uld System Lords became far more fractured, and political infighting with occasional skirmishes between some few system lords became full blown conflicts.
@PathsUnwritten
@PathsUnwritten 2 жыл бұрын
Appease the Wraith with Daniel Jackson, an inexhaustible food source.
@briankuczynski6884
@briankuczynski6884 2 жыл бұрын
Set up qn Omelas situation with the Wraith, some convicts, and a sarcophagus.
@hubertino855
@hubertino855 2 жыл бұрын
Stargate... that's a franchise that needs more attention!!!!
@Heisen2420
@Heisen2420 2 жыл бұрын
Personal Suggestions for Future Ranking Videos. 1) Battletech 2) KaiserReich 3) Fallout 4) A Song of Ice & Fire 5) Mass Effect 6) Vampire: The Masquerade 7) Babylon 5 8) Dragon Age 9) League of Legends 10) Elder Scrolls
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 2 жыл бұрын
Which Inner Sphere house is the best and why it's House Steiner
@nekostyan1975
@nekostyan1975 2 жыл бұрын
6) TNO: Last days of europe
@RabbitShirak
@RabbitShirak 2 жыл бұрын
Farscape. That is all
@sgtboom7
@sgtboom7 2 жыл бұрын
Would certainly like to see a Mass Effect one and a KaiserReich version of this.
@0011peace
@0011peace 2 жыл бұрын
B5 has been done already its on you tube
@Starsaber222
@Starsaber222 2 жыл бұрын
The Tok'ra on the Milky Way side and the Travellers on the Pegasus side are the only powers I'd consider significant oversights (unless you wanted to break down the Goa'uld further to account for their own internal divisions. There's also the relatively new alliance of worlds in the Pegasus galaxy that was forming in Season 5, though they would probably fall under the Atlantis Expedition or Genii sphere of influence depending on whether Atlantis returned after the cliffhanger we got left on.
@the11382
@the11382 2 жыл бұрын
Tok'Ra were a great power that declined to middle or small status. Travelers are a middle power at best, they lack the resources and have become scavengers.
@Starsaber222
@Starsaber222 2 жыл бұрын
@@the11382 Agreed on the Tok'ra. Travellers do have a higher technology level than most of the native factions in Pegasus (Ronan's gun was their technology for example), so that could count for something.
@the11382
@the11382 2 жыл бұрын
@@Starsaber222 They don't have the manufacturing capabilities.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't really consider the Tok'ra, they are too small. They essentially are just a small group of infiltrators that have a different opposed ideology to the goa'uld. Even at the height of their power they are living in hiding and likely only number a few thousand from what I remember.
@paulbeaney4901
@paulbeaney4901 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the genii or however you spell it lol. They were one of the few enemies that were smart, could innovate and actually felt dangerous.
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 2 жыл бұрын
They were easily the least evil of the bad guys fought by the SGC.
@paulbeaney4901
@paulbeaney4901 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quincy_Morris no i don't mean as in evil, i mean in competence. They new what they were doing, they were more professional.
@dominic.h.3363
@dominic.h.3363 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulbeaney4901 Oh they were evil alright, they were just relatively harmless. Now imagine if they would be capable of speedrunning technological advancement like humans did (calling them by their Goa'uld name feels weird so no Tau'ri from me). That would be an interesting conflict to see.
@waynejuckts3008
@waynejuckts3008 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominic.h.3363Goal'ud is even wi h those snakes removed, a common language on countless World in the milky way, but as the Genii are from. Pegasus, where they never had goal'ud influence.... Our own Name for us, humans like introduced by us is the right one to go..... In this context.
@waynejuckts3008
@waynejuckts3008 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting picks for the rwces Symbols. If I remember right, as where was a triade at the question, who owns right to the body, Skaara the host, or klorell or how ever the snake dpells its Name...... The SG Team got some quarters on that Planet and a flag symbolize their factions, while that goal'ud got another and the Nox teptesentative also gots a flag behind him. On the ta'uri flag Was the origin point Symbol of their gate Adress the one you gave the adurans here. Well you gave us the sgc Symbol, a correct choice but oder that Symbol you gave away to the asurance, I ever understood Ta'uri as its meaning.
@JoeIPA
@JoeIPA 2 жыл бұрын
I would love if you added any of the following. The Tok’ra, Anubis, Aschen, Tollan, Nox, Hebridian, and Milky Way replicators.
@GoranXII
@GoranXII 2 жыл бұрын
Minor Power/Minor Power, Minor Power/dead, Moderate Power/unknown (possibly dead), Moderate Power/dead, unknown/unknown, Moderate Power/Moderate Power, Minor Power/dead. Honestly, the number of knlwn powers that had any sort of organisation in both years is pretty low, Earth, the Genii, the Wraith, the Tok'ra, and the Hebridians.
@septagram9491
@septagram9491 2 жыл бұрын
Not much information on them, but the Furlings and the aliens in SGU could also be added.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
@@septagram9491 Nothing on furlings either. They could have brought them back in a big way in a new show if they wanted to, though. We dont know much of the blue aliens either of SGU. They seem to be space nomads (like Travelers), somewhat akin to Asgards who just follow Destiny with a fleet. A technocracy, it seemed like. But we just never found out if they have a home planet anywhere. The SGU drones were a big threat though, they seemed like a hyperpower of their respective galaxy, with capabilities to follow Destiny, too.
@JoeIPA
@JoeIPA 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoranXII Anubis is not dead. Just locked in an eternal battle with a fellow ascended being. My theory was that Anubis was trying to gather as many worshipers as possible. As proven by the Ori worship increases your power as an ascended being. If Anubis ever gets worshipers again then Anubis could break free. I would argue Anubis was not a minor power. Super Soldiers, Shields and weapons capable of destroying an Asgard ship, almost took over the System Lords and his super weapon on his mother ship. I fully admit I’m an Anubis Simp hahaha.
@GoranXII
@GoranXII 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeIPA Okay, not _dead_ dead, but never coming back. Also, we don't know the state of Anubis in 1997, but considering he's not mentioned for several seasons, it's a fair bet to assume he's just a minor power, handily contained by the System Lords.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Жыл бұрын
„7:45 technologically stagnant“ where are they getting that from ? The Asgard were actively innovating to fight the replicators and even in the show we see them doing massive leaps in technology. We also know they are actively extracting ancient knowledge from the repository
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic isn't it? The Goa'ulds most glaring weakness arose because they feared another uprising like on Earth, just for them to find their demise by the hand of the Tauri themselves. Also I'm surprised you didn't include more minor powers like the Tollans or the Aschens.
@hulmhochberg8129
@hulmhochberg8129 2 жыл бұрын
Aschen were super scary, bro. Maybe the most underrated villains of stargate
@Nr15121
@Nr15121 2 жыл бұрын
@@hulmhochberg8129 an enemy with endless patience is the most lethal of all
@nuclearsimian3281
@nuclearsimian3281 2 жыл бұрын
The Tollan were completely annihilated by a single Goa'uld. They would only have qualified as a minor power. Likewise, the Aschen would have only qualified as a regional power, and a very weak one at that since they had never figured out the intricacies of the Stargate network and their advancement seemed rather stagnant.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
Hence why Ra banned reading and writing. He didn't want his Tau'ri to advance in any capacity so they would be kept stagnant and complacent.
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 2 жыл бұрын
@@nuclearsimian3281 The Tolan were annihilated by a combination of their arrogance and a kinda-sorta ascended Goa'uld. Not that I disagree with your ranking of them; you can't be a power if you don't project it, and the Tolan were so traumatized by that one time they gave cave men nukes they weren't willing to project any of their power.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting missing power that was featured so briefly that I cannot even recall their name: The massive galaxy spanning corporate superpower. The one that hosted the interstellar race between dozens of species. They seemed like they might be the single most functional faction in the galaxy, and sadly, we never really heard more about them once the Ori showed up.
@Dr_Mafia
@Dr_Mafia 2 жыл бұрын
Marking this so whoever responds will let me know as well
@Big_Red1
@Big_Red1 2 жыл бұрын
Serrakins? I think that was the species.
@the11382
@the11382 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they were destroyed by the Ori.
@fagonfly
@fagonfly 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just started rewatching SG1. The timing of this vid is perfect.
@Jawmax
@Jawmax 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Furlings. The faction that never showed up.
@allseeinghamster6001
@allseeinghamster6001 2 жыл бұрын
Well if you don't count the clip show episode....
@Jawmax
@Jawmax 2 жыл бұрын
@@allseeinghamster6001 Those Ewok ripoffs? Never!
@JC19171
@JC19171 8 ай бұрын
Do you remember that ship that disabled the prometheus in a nebula and Sam had to get the ship working again by herself? There's been hints apparently that that alien ship was the furlings
@jjkrayenhagen
@jjkrayenhagen 2 жыл бұрын
Just for some added flavor I would like to have seen these minor factions as well: Aschen, Tok'ra, Vanir, and the Tollans. Now let's do this for Babylon 5 Please.
@bobbun9630
@bobbun9630 2 жыл бұрын
The Hebridans would be good to add to that list, seeing as they actually have an interplanetary society with more advanced technology than Earth at the time the cultures met. They're an interesting contrast to the Aschen in a way... The scope of their "empires" seem comparable, but the Hebridans obviously have interstellar ships while the Aschen are dependent on the gate network, despite the Aschen appearing to be more technologically advanced over all. Of course, the true masters of the universe are the Untouched, regardless of what the Tollan think of them.
@Vilfy
@Vilfy 2 жыл бұрын
Please remind me, who were the Vanir?
@chrisk3127
@chrisk3127 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vilfy the rouge Asgard from Pegasus
@0011peace
@0011peace 2 жыл бұрын
That has already been done and is on you tube
@singletona082
@singletona082 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in agreement with your post 2010 rankings except I'd list SGC as a Great Power rather than a Superpower. Our potential to expand is there to leapfrog in a comparitive eyeblink to hyperpower status, but between a disunified throneworld and colonial projection being fairly limited alongside a small current force? SGC only has limited capability to project themselves amongst the other noteables. Still. toppling outright two antagonist powers, with the third major power bequeathing SGC as their inheritor given SGC's basically nonexistant status as a power a decade prior? That is nothing short of jawdropping. Put into perspective: It'd be like King Kamehameha I's unification of Hawaii lead to a chain of alliances and comparitive small scale actions leading to the collapse of the great interconnected web of Europe and russia, china fragmenting. Africa unifying but also being rife with internal divisions, america evaporating and at best turning isolationist for the next couple centuries, all leaving Hawai'i being ascendant on the world stage as inheretors as they produce state of the art ww1 grade ships and weapons at the close of the 18th century.
@brainblessed5814
@brainblessed5814 2 жыл бұрын
All five of them.
@VTMMan
@VTMMan 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a wild game of Civilisation 5
@quwykxz
@quwykxz 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a Galactic Power Ranking video done on the races of the Mass Effect Milky Way galaxy, including all known Citadel and non-Citadel races (such as the Batarians, Krogan, Geth, and Leviathans), but excluding the Andromeda initiative and the races of that galaxy. Also, it would be appreciated if the rankings of the various races were given as both pre- and post- Reaper invasion standings.
@crimsonsamuraiftw
@crimsonsamuraiftw 2 жыл бұрын
Hyperpower - The Reapers Superpower - Collectors/Protheans - The Citadel Alliance (ME3) Great Power - The Leviathan - The Geth - The Rachni (at their height) - Cerberus - Commander Shepard and Normandy/EDI Regional Power - The Asari (maybe verging on great power) - The Turians - The Systems Alliance - The Krogan - The Quarians Middle Power - The Salarians - The Batarians (before ME3) - The Volus + alliance species - The Hanar + alliance species - Aria + Omega Small/Minor Power - The Vorcha - The Elchor - Blue Suns - Eclipse - The Blood Pack Thats all pre-, as post- you can't really count since its a giant wasteland.
@TheAutobot
@TheAutobot 2 жыл бұрын
Always love seeing SG content! I wonder if the new series that's been rumored will have us going back to Pegasus to get answers on the Wraith and Geni.
@lostShadowLord
@lostShadowLord 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember the novel correctly, The Genii get a drone ship, and start building some of the traveller's ships designs. I believe at one point they have some of the older Tau'ri design. The BC-02 and the not Asgrad upgraded BC-03. Granted the Tau'ri have dozens of ships in Peagus and the Milky-way at this point. The wraith are stuck in a major civil war, and the Human federation is taking back planets. In short the Genii are on the raise and the wraith are killing each other, get curb stomp by the federation, or living under Federation control/allied to the Federation because Tau'ri.
@lostjedi3380
@lostjedi3380 2 жыл бұрын
You know what, I hope Babylon 5 will have a video like this down the line.
@JoeKawano
@JoeKawano 2 жыл бұрын
The technical detail HUD looks so great over SG-1’s chunkier, low detail graphics... it really balances it out!
@DarthKhai1991
@DarthKhai1991 2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy you’ve made a video on this beloved series
@firockfinion3326
@firockfinion3326 2 жыл бұрын
What I'm sitting here thinking is, why weren't the Replicators included? They were beating or at least stalemating the Asgard; they were clearly a powerful force, even if they weren't a 'nation' in the traditional sense.
@mitchell3593
@mitchell3593 Жыл бұрын
Because until the sgc did time fuckery and evolved the replicators by several thousand or million years, the replicators weren't sentient in any way.
@shoesncheese
@shoesncheese 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see Stargate content. I would have included Tok'ra, Replicators, and Tollan. I'd also include Jonas Quinn's planet since they introduced the SGC to Naquadria. Man, whatever happened with the Reetou. They really dropped the ball on that one. Oh! The Aschen. What ever happened to them, too? Also, many galactic powers still just called us the Tauri. Seeing humanitiy's slow but steady rise to galactic power is one of the best things about Stargate SG-1.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
The Reetou were absolutely forgotten, I'll give you that. So were the aliens with the shapeshifting devices and fleshy suits. Oh, never mind the 'Fifth member' of SG-1 and his race. I think the series just couldnt really handle races based on inflitration more than a gimmick, especially when SGC were the main infiltrators of the show. The goa'uld spies, Ashrak I think they called, only had a few appaerances, too. Only the Trust was dealt with properly, and honestly not quite sure if they caught them all either. I think the Lucians took over what was left of it after Ba'al, seeing how they were infiltrating Earth and the Destiny in SGU. I think there was an Aschen book where it turns out, they did stop the black hole consuming their world, but they got beaten again. Not sure about its conclusion, whether they survived or not.
@braydenb1581
@braydenb1581 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Stargate. Just imagine how disruptive it will be when everyone learns just how advanced the human race is. But I suppose every war we never imagine what weapons are hidden away til they are brought out for use
@Astraeus..
@Astraeus.. 10 ай бұрын
3:29 - I always loved how O'Neil would just sort of casually agree with whatever was going on at the time just to move things along, rather than bother with trying to explain or break anything down at all just cause he figured either it'd all work out in the end or they'd all be dead, so why worry about it :P
@janbenes3907
@janbenes3907 2 жыл бұрын
I'm telling you, Furlings are still out there somewhere...
@Timjer92
@Timjer92 2 жыл бұрын
One of the (if not the) biggest mysteries and unresolved plot points in all of Stargate...
@scsscs4670
@scsscs4670 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to see some Stargate content. I think I would have had the list mostly the same with a few minor adjustments up or down one slot. Overall very good video
@motherreaper7287
@motherreaper7287 2 жыл бұрын
I was kinda surprised to see a few notable groups left out of this, but I can see why, as they barely if ever stepped onto the galactic stage despite having the capability. The Ashen certainly come to mind. I'm also curious about how the SGU compares to this, they had some interesting (albeit overly derivative) stuff.
@808INFantry11X
@808INFantry11X 2 жыл бұрын
Aschen, traveller's, Hebridan, Langara
@jankostrhun8725
@jankostrhun8725 2 жыл бұрын
We know basically nothing about Aschen. And given their reliance and yet limited understanding of stargate tech, they would be pretty low on the list.
@eXpriest
@eXpriest 2 жыл бұрын
@@jankostrhun8725 That and their homeworld got ate by a blackhole.
@jankostrhun8725
@jankostrhun8725 2 жыл бұрын
@@eXpriest I don't recall that happening.
@eXpriest
@eXpriest 2 жыл бұрын
@@jankostrhun8725 The gate addresses they brought as part of their treaty negotiations, the first one was a black hole, pretty sure it's mentioned in subsequent supplementary material too.
@apostoldimov9856
@apostoldimov9856 2 жыл бұрын
This entry was very intriguing! Thank you Templin Institute for being one of the few creative entities which provide us with such high quality SG content ❣️❣️❣️
@mingchoi8369
@mingchoi8369 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis on the galactic powers of Stargate. Have you considered doing rankings on the Gundam multiverse?
@slayer2450
@slayer2450 10 ай бұрын
Man, I use to love watching Stargate as a kid
@alannatherson7721
@alannatherson7721 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the video when the Templin Institute tries to do this Galactic Powers Ranking series with the Star Wars universe. I hope they just make each era its own video with that verse or else we'll be there for ten hours.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
Just make it Legends-based, please, for god sake. Id be down for that. A few largely stagnant powers, like Chiss Ascendancy, Hutts, or the Republic, but the constantly re-emerging Sith Empires make it intriguing. Post Return of the Jedi its also a pretty massive clusterfudge. So many change in just a few decades, more than in the past 5k combined basically. With the Hapan, Vong, Yevetha, Ssi-ruuvi, Empire of the Hand or Imperial Warlords emerging in a fractured galaxy for brief or longer times. Legacy times might also be neat to close it out.
@americancapitalist9094
@americancapitalist9094 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it can quite bump up the SGC in the ranking… but the fact that we went from a middle power at best to a superpower and defeated super and hyper-powers all the while keeping the entire Stargate program secret is truly impressive.
@a.t.o.mworkshop6409
@a.t.o.mworkshop6409 10 ай бұрын
The thing is that the ranking take into account the "will to dominate" which the humans lack.
@DizDiq
@DizDiq 2 жыл бұрын
Earth/SGC had the best defense of all... Plot Armor.
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 5 ай бұрын
The Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis were absolutely stellar in their depiction of the gradual rise of the Tauri faction. It started as a small infiltration team based on a few smart individuals without energy shields or energy weapons, and ended up as an interstellar superpower with great fleet, numerous allies and rapidly rising technological level able to multitask with crushing the Goauld and Wraith hyperpower empires almost simultaneously in 2 different galaxies.
@Mcpetra197
@Mcpetra197 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Templin Institute was correct for not putting the Furlings on this listing. I believe there are a dead race. It's disappointing not to see the Tok'ra but I understand why with very little information about them.
@tillerzeit
@tillerzeit 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the Goauld a longstanding galactic super/hyper power fell to a fraction of the power of the US military industrial complex. One knew how to subjugate and keep power through fear. The other got really really good at removing threats from the board and adapting rapidly to changing situations
@MrHusker1996
@MrHusker1996 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely should have included some other civilizations like Tok'ra or Tollan and perhaps others, even if they would rank low, they still had an influence in the galaxy. One thing I disagree with thought is that Asgard and Wraith are technologically stagnant. We do see multiple examples of them progressing and coming up with new technology. Asgard for example coming up with new ships like O'neill and Daniel Jackson during the war with the replicators or the beam weapons when fighting the Ori. Sure their civilization was in decline due to their physical defects and constant wars that didnt help their population size, but when it comes to technology they kept advancing. With wraith we see the advancement pretty much just with Todd, but that doesnt mean there are no other similar individuals, its not like on earth everybody is a nuclear engineer and we still don't know much about how their society actually works. We also do see them stealing technology from the Ancients or just adapting on their own such us with the cloning facility during their war with the ancients, they just take their sweet time, since after the ancients were gone, they were unchallanged and were taking the long naps in between times of activity. But they are well aware of their weaknesses such as hyperspeed limitations and lack of energy to power up all their technology, but I can see them not really investing much into creating their own solutions since they had plenty of time and they knew about ZPMs and other ancient technology and were activelly collecting that, simply taking the path of least resistance. Their progress doesnt match that of Earth, but than again Earth has done very little progress on its own, they stole or were given technology from Goa'uld, Tok'ra, Asgard etc, but that still counts as progress, they just simply had more room to progress, while Asgard or Wraith were way ahead of them and meaningful advances weren't just handouts or such break throughs.
@aximili113
@aximili113 2 жыл бұрын
One of the more interesting point for me about thier culture and technology is the comment todd made in one episode when he said everyone who grew thier ships and took care of them made a faction of thier own. As well as the hierarchy whit thier queens and how the queens are essential for drone production they were not willing to risk thier ships and crew.
@p0xus
@p0xus 2 жыл бұрын
How did YT not recommend this video to me until now? A Templin video abotu Stargate? The algorithm should know thats up my alley.
@Antares-dw9iv
@Antares-dw9iv 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Asgard are severely underrated. I don't think any of the other races could have sustained an all out war with the replicators for as long as they have. We saw the Asurans completely steamrolling the Wraith the second they started trying and they were no where near as wide spread or dangerous as the version of the replicators the Asgard were facing.
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The Asgard would probably defeat the Goa'Uld pretty easily if they were to succesfully defeat the Replicators. The tactics they used against the replicators were on another level. Like creating a black hole to destroy them, imagine those kinds of tactics against the Goa'Uld. When they did defeat the Replicators they could easily create weapons that could easily destroy even ori ships. But yeah, we can't really put the Asgard as a superpower since they put the weight of protecting galaxies from the replicators on their shoulders and therefore couldn't focus on lesser threats and keeping them under control.
@ThePCguy17
@ThePCguy17 2 жыл бұрын
I do think the Tok'ra merited at least a mention. They may not have seemed to accomplished much, but they were an interplanetary civilization largely responsible for the Goa'uld staying so divided and feudal. Without them fighting their quiet rebellion, it's possible the Goa'uld would have been much, much more of a threat, possibly even getting over their paranoid tendency to fight each other at the slightest provocation and thus becoming something more closely resembling a united society.
@mcintoshpc
@mcintoshpc 2 жыл бұрын
4:52 only christopher judge could cause a stinger to transform into an at4 no one else is so powerful
@tilmanschneider7523
@tilmanschneider7523 2 жыл бұрын
I personally agree with most of the rankings on this list and love to see Stargate content. For years I followed this show as a child and later on as an adult. However there are view points I have a complete other opinion on: 1. I'm sure that the Goa'uld in 2010 are not worth mentinoing. Even if there are holdouts and very minor system lords, who survived. Their power would still be insignificant to that, the humans of the Ori galaxy held. I don't think, that they would be able to replicate Ori technology, since their 'gods' kept them at a low stage of development on purpose. But the few ships they still had at the end of the crusade, were more than capable of challenging Earth's fleet at the time. 2. For the reasons mentioned under the first aspect, I believe that the Ori successors deserve a place amongst the regional powers. They are basically uncontested in their galaxy, but would more than likely lack the capabilities and will to project what remains of their former strength. 3. (Yes I'm a big Wraith fan) The Wraith in 2010 are probably something like a superpower (if not a hyperpower). If you take apart the social structures, they are only a little less unified than in 1997. From what I took from SGA it was always about Hiveships and their respective feeding grounds. The only reason, they banded together in the first place, was that Ancients waged war against them/they had to wage it against them in order to survive. The humans of the pegasus Galaxy (including the Genii) can't resist them. The only other power that can is Stargate Command. But...why would they? That may sound weird, but consider this: Politics is about needs and interests. The Wraith NEED to feed on humans (if Doctor Kellers experiments won't go well, but if they do, the Wraith would be ahead of Earth or any other society regarding domestic technology). Stargate Command wants Ancient technology. ...That doesn't collied necessarily. The reason they first went to war with each other is, that the Wraith wound accept them, as a possible rival. But in 2010 things had changed drastically. Why would Stargate Command risk the lifes of it's personal and billions or trillions of Dollars (which would increase risk of exposure to the public) if they could just 'coexist'. The Wraith would have noticed by now, that tha Tau'ri are more advanced than their own race. They can't beat them (unless they repeat the Ancient's misstakes, but they know about those.). And I don't see any government on Earth having an interest in beating the Wraith. They fought, because the Wraith were a threat, but now they aren't. Stargate Command could simply keep one or two BC-304s in Orbit around Atlantis (If they even were to return it to Pegasus, but why would you move a defensive platform like that away from Earth?) and could beat any force the Wraith could muster. The Wraith know that, they aren't dumb. They have beaten the Ancients using cleverness and arrogance. Why wouldn't they band together again? You can operate Hiveships to project power using only a small crew (a dozen people at most) and put the rest back in hibernation. It would make food a plentifully available resource once more. They even have 'trusted' ambassadors like Todd to broker a truce. (You don't get to fight the Wraith and free access to their worlds, they get to eat) Sounds like a good deal to me. I don't have to do anything, I wouldn't have done anyways. And if I get the feeling, that the Wraith are betraying me? Let's go crush them. They have got their bloody nose and since they live forever, they will remember it. And besides that: What could Earth gain from exploring Pegasus? They have plenty of stuff to explore back in the Milkyway. And like 98% of Ancient knowledge safely in Atlantis' database. The other 2% so far have either proven to be irrelevant or outright dangerous and impossible to apply.
@bryanmcclure2220
@bryanmcclure2220 2 жыл бұрын
Wish we knew more of the ori galaxy now.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
The Ark of Truth movie was supposed to be an 11th season where they spend most of the time in their galaxy. I guess thats just a story we never got to see. Kinda doubt they'd have made up any enemies of Ori in their own galaxy (since Ori had the knowledge and capabilities to jihad them), but we'll just never know.
@bryanmcclure2220
@bryanmcclure2220 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grivehn I really like the oir as a faction If they ever do a new series I hope they come back somehow.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmcclure2220 Well, the Ori as a faction were seemingly killed entirely by Merlin's weapon. Adria seemed to be neutralized by Morgan le Fey, too. Nothing is impossible though, especially since we dont really know many rules of how the upper spheres of existence works. Somi Ori could have survived, and just got weakened. Maybe some could 'last minute' switch into a human body, too, to survive. Id think that could be cool. The Ori appaering as actual people with godlike powers, even more powerful than the Priors. Setting out to re-convert their galaxy. Maybe under the guise of a new faith, even.
@bryanmcclure2220
@bryanmcclure2220 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grivehn I always like the idea that some of them managed to diascend at the last minute, Or Maybe some of their followers Could find a way to become ascended themselves as the new Ori.
@mattwho81
@mattwho81 10 ай бұрын
The Gou’ald empire downfall was started with the death of Ra. The Supreme system lord reserved a lot of tech for himself (advanced weapons and hyperdrives). When Ra died all the System lords got their hands on that tech. Their ships which were previously limited to 10x lightspeed could now cross the galaxy in days. Wars between them had always been limited and almost treated as sport. Now they had the ability to range deep into each others territory and attack at will. The System lords were tearing each other apart, with Apophis, Heru’ur and Sokar quickly becoming the three main contenders. The Tau’ri knack off bumping off system lords only spurred the fighting further. By the time the Replicators appeared the Gould Empire was already on its knees.
@Redem10
@Redem10 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a galactic powers and most people on your homeworld don't even know about it.
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon 2 жыл бұрын
“Hey guys, guess what. Aliens exist. Also, we conquered most of them within a single generation.”
@TheIslandDivision
@TheIslandDivision 10 ай бұрын
Google "Solar Warden". One of the more interesting conspiracy theories out there.
@smalltalkwithdan9737
@smalltalkwithdan9737 2 жыл бұрын
stumbling across this is a highlight of my day.
@classreductionist
@classreductionist 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should have included the Nox.
@RabbitShirak
@RabbitShirak 2 жыл бұрын
”the very young do not always do as they are told".
@danielyeshe
@danielyeshe 2 жыл бұрын
The shuttle conversation is just gold!
@carpemkarzi
@carpemkarzi 2 жыл бұрын
Well done and now I have to go watch the hole multiple series again soooo..thank you?
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 2 жыл бұрын
The humans also started off 1997 with the super power of exploding things--and ooga booga caveman solutions Like putting a bunch of metal in front of the gate--but not enough to have the gate be considered "buried"... while the Go'uald had energy shields that did a similar thing... the notion of having a physical metal wall was just alien to them. It was also alien to every other species out there (including the ones that had ways around it). You'd just see various civilisations look at the Iris and be all, "wait... seriously?" If you've ever heard any Tech Support Horror stories... Star Gate Command essentially weaponised that stuff. With so many times, SGC would explain something they did--and every other alien nation would respond in utter horror at what the humans attempted. Like if Jackass did a cross over with Mythbusters
@itsaflyboything
@itsaflyboything 2 жыл бұрын
I think you'd need two or three categories above hyperpower to fit the furlings
@AlbonitumG
@AlbonitumG 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, despite omission of Tok'ra, Aschen, Tollan and other minor/regional powers. Would love to see Mass Effect next.
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 2 жыл бұрын
I love Stargate. All the series. I'll always re watch them. You gotta do Babylon 5 one day👍
@user-lp3uj3ge2i
@user-lp3uj3ge2i 2 жыл бұрын
Stargate is great, it’s awesome you guys made this.
@VengeanceMkII
@VengeanceMkII 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the SGC began as a pitiful lower power and rose up the ranks. Just like XCOM.
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 2 жыл бұрын
And there've been more than a few cross over fics; sometimes X-COM runs the SGC (which often comes off as "What if we replaced O'Neill with Maybourne?") and sometimes they're two independent secret organizations that discover each other by one stepping on the other's toes. The real trick is fitting the Ethereals into a galaxy full of system lords, Asgard, and everything else the SGC found.
@sharkdentures3247
@sharkdentures3247 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how you spelled out the fact that Earth, as a vast number of different (& often conflicting) nations. . . .normally a HUGE negative compared to a unified World Government, and switched it into a Positive by saying we had an excellent Diplomatic Corp because all those varied nations resulted in EXPERIENCE with different societies & conflict resolution!
@RRW359
@RRW359 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how canon it is but if you count the Genii in the 1997 list then you should also include the Satedans. The post-SGA books mentioned that they rivaled them and were the only Human faction in the galaxy during the current cycle that figured out powered flight.
@gabrielkline2581
@gabrielkline2581 2 жыл бұрын
I love how stargate started as “oh that’s kinda cool it’s like space travel in todays time” to “SPACE LASERS HELL YEAH”
@NimbleBard48
@NimbleBard48 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I remember the middle seasons of SG-1 better than the later or the first ones. I really need to rewatch both StarGate shows sometime in the future (SG-1 and Atlantis). Anyone can tell me if Universe is worth it?
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 2 жыл бұрын
Universe is good, but don't go into it expecting it to be 'Stargate Show 3". It is more about psychology, interpersonal relationships, and "big questions".
@oogaboogabe3464
@oogaboogabe3464 2 жыл бұрын
And SGU has a kind of unsatisfying ending.
@manticore4952
@manticore4952 2 жыл бұрын
Seasons 1-8 are great.
@billcipher4996
@billcipher4996 2 жыл бұрын
literally so happy we get stargate content
@darklordmalthric3633
@darklordmalthric3633 2 жыл бұрын
You should do rankings for starcraft factions
@coolsiteish
@coolsiteish 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect this in my recommended. Quite welcome
@Andypos
@Andypos 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, Stargate is often overlooked, but that doesn't apply to this channel. ☺ As for the topic, I more or less agree with your view, I just think the Wraith didn't go through such a drastic downfall, in my opinion they still retained a lot of power in their galaxy even after all the peripeties like the SGC, the civil war, the Asurans and Michael which harms them even after his death, so I would classify them as a superpower in 2010. And a small note, it would be better to use different markings for some states, for Asurans some letter of the Ancient alphabet, for Asgard the symbol seen in hall of the Great Four Races on Heliopolis in the first season episode "The Torment of Tantalus" and for LA maybe the triangle they have on their uniforms where they have rank markings.
@urself25
@urself25 2 жыл бұрын
More Stargate! More!!! I don't agree with all ranking but I understand your reasoning. Great video!
@randomusernameCallin
@randomusernameCallin 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a look at threats with how dangerous and the type of danger they are.
@bluefury7257
@bluefury7257 2 жыл бұрын
dude you just favorite series was not expecting this
@seannewboy8612
@seannewboy8612 2 жыл бұрын
Amusing that you mentioned the Firlings (sp?), since they were never touched on in any series, other than mentions.
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon 2 жыл бұрын
They “appeared” in “200” ;D
@saberpat7
@saberpat7 2 жыл бұрын
As a "Gatey" since childhood so happy to see this video
@rubaiyat300
@rubaiyat300 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it weird that the War on Terror era US military was basically uplifted to be at minimum intergalactic Great Power in like a decade. Not Earth, not the US in general, but the US military, and possibly just a single branch of it.
@the11382
@the11382 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, the US navy is the 2nd greatest air force on Earth, below the US air force.
@ScienzaMagia
@ScienzaMagia Жыл бұрын
The Star Wars galaxy circa SWTOR would be a really interesting one for this series. You have two primary galactic superpowers (the Republic and the Sith Empire), an outside hyperpower (the Eternal Empire) and a whole mess of still-significant regional, middle, and great powers (the Mandalorians, the Hutt Cartels, the Chiss Ascendancy, etc.)
@heero75
@heero75 2 жыл бұрын
I agree for the most part, however I feel the Tok'ra should have been added to the list.
@morganarutsatz6736
@morganarutsatz6736 2 жыл бұрын
Just as the ranking was 13 years apart. It has now been almost 13 years since. We need a new updated show. Maybe with average earth citizens getting let in on the knowledge and the changes to our own society that this may have caused. Plus, there are more galaxies out there to explore. Loved this Universe and want it back.
@HereticDuo
@HereticDuo 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot the Tok'Ra
@tennozeorymer
@tennozeorymer 2 жыл бұрын
Man, Stargate was so cool. Good video!
@toeray5864
@toeray5864 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video! I would have added the Tok'Ra, Tolan, and Nox in there somewhere. I understand these would be hard to rate since two are secretive as all hell and the third is wiped out by 2010. E: AND THE ASCHEN! CANT FORGET THEM!
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the tollan kinda deserved to be wiped out for being Royal cunts to everyone who could have helped them, and then seeming really surprised when the gou'uld betrayed them, and didn't even have the decency to share their tech before being wiped out.
@charlestownsend9280
@charlestownsend9280 2 жыл бұрын
The race who took over the earth and defeated the gau'old in the alternate future and the replicas would be two other larger powers.
@toeray5864
@toeray5864 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlestownsend9280 Duuuuuude the Aschen? I forgot about those guys! Great bad guys.
@charlestownsend9280
@charlestownsend9280 2 жыл бұрын
@@toeray5864 that's their name, I forgot it, one of my favourite villains though, just by how patient and deceptive they were even though they could probably have just won by force. They had an entire empire without use of the stargate network and were advanced enough to make stars and were able to become the biggest power in the galaxy once they had access to the stargate network.
@PathsUnwritten
@PathsUnwritten 2 жыл бұрын
Tollan were only a single-planet species and extinct by the middle of SG-1. Aschen presumably extinct from dialing a black hole. Nox seemed to be single-planet and Tokra were still around but severely diminished.
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и Жыл бұрын
It took me until 3:05 and a whole another video before that to realize that this is the literal stargate series, like, the one with the cartoons
@hiei82
@hiei82 2 жыл бұрын
Should probably have included the Tollan and Nox as well.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
The Tollan maybe but the Nox I don't know since they were essentially just advanced aliens that lived like forest elves. They weren't really a superpower.
@onlywithbuts1781
@onlywithbuts1781 2 жыл бұрын
I would say Goa'uld would fit more as superpower due to the fact their control highly depends on fear from other civilizations, generally lower tech civs in the series therefore consider them as "Gods" and that their arrogance is also what brings their demise as the era continues once the civs realize it is all just a show of dominance and power creep. Asgard seems like the main candidate for Hyperpower since at many occasions they absolutely own Goa'uld any time they have a chance ( that is until the whole decline of their numbers of course ) but if even one of their ship (Thor's chariot) can wipe them off the Earth in one of the scenes, still so badass to this day. Its fun to theorize tho, i love how little was shown around Asgard, but still enough to leave you thinking. Awesome vid! Love seeing some SG-1
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