Ranking the Studio Albums: Frost* (w/Steven Reid)

[@deanleslie3269]

I always look forward to podcasts with Steven Reid for his intelligent and interesting comments and my God,looove the Scottish accent,totally beautiful. Hey,Pete,you ain't too shabby either. Love the B.O.C. t-shirt. I'll check this band out.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks Dean. It's a pleasure to a part of the channel!

[@lahloonatic]

Love the long kvetch before anything about the music itself is discussed. I agree with Pete on the impracticality of box sets and as a dinosaur myself, I heartily approve.

[@sspbrazil]

I stopped buying physical media years ago and I’m 54. I moved so many times over the years that it was liberating getting rid of most of it, I’m happy with streaming.

[@stevewhiteside4525]

I loved that bit too, I'm also a dinosaur and won't bore you with all my many gripes about CD housing, I'll just mention the opposite to what Steven said - when the central gripping wheel is so tight you feel you're going to snap the CD in half trying to get it out. Oh, and when you get a small box set where the box is just slightly too big to fit on a CD shelf.

[@careytamburrino746]

Nice I have another new to me band to check out! Thanks guys great show!

[@jimmycampbell78]

I always enjoy the banter and music chat between Pete and Steven Reid.

[@drewrose374]

I never heard of FROST and I would love that box set!!! I will definitely check them out! Love the episodes with Steven “To Be Fair” Reid! Always informative and entertaining

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Haha! To be fair I try to be fair a fair proportion of the time. Which is fair enough!

[@normanjudd8716]

I have no idea how a record company decides who to push and who not to push. Frost is the best band that I've found in 5-10 years!

[@docdeens4030]

I wasn't aware of this band until recently...you guys managed to get me even more interested. Great stuff so far. Can't wait to hear more!

[@johnmichaelwilliams6694]

What a treat - two videos with Steven Reid tonight. Stayed up late to watch them both last night rather than save them for Sunday morning viewing. Steven and Pete are another pair with great chemistry in discussing music. Enjoyed the discussion here prior to the album ratings. That is what makes SoT so great to watch. You feel like you're sitting down with these two. So now time to go listen to some Frost* music. Thanks, Steven and Pete, for this fun discussion and bringing more new music to my attention.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks John, It makes it even more fun putting these together when you find out people are enjoying the shows.

[@terrymtbnurse4760]

I accidently found Frost* Day and Age on vinyl at my local record shop and remembered you guy's talking about Frost* on one of your episodes. Bought it and now I'm a fan. I've never heard anything else from these guys; boy is it going to be fun discovering their catalogue. Love the channel.

[@davidclark2208]

Great show and great interest to hear from you both again.I an not listed to any of their music but I will check out your top 2

[@stephennorris2524]

Anything that has John Mitchell involved sounds good to me, I haven't got round to this group but have heard all the Lonely Robot albums which I enjoy. A band on his White Star records, Kepler Ten are well worth checking out especially the new album. Another prog band that doesn't get mentioned much which I can recommend is Lifesigns 3 albums to date, very good stuff.

[@diannecarpenter7718]

Thank you guys for ranking your studio albums of Frost. I enjoyed listening to your picks. I’m not familiar with the band Frost. I’ ll check them out. 🎤🎸🎵🎹🥁

[@richardwoodhouse8404]

LOVE YOU GUYS DOING THESE SHOWS, ONE OF MY FAVOURITE BANDS IS ANATHEMA, WOULD LOVE A RANKINGS ON THEM, KEEP UP THE GREAT SHOWS.

[@jason-budney7624]

Another great show, always love to hear Steven and Pete talk music. I think a monthly "listening room / music talk" show would be perfect! I just played Middletown a couple of days ago, which I've enjoyed since Steven mentioned it on the Prog Primer show. I sold most of my CDs and all Vinyl a while ago. I get wanting physical media. I still pick up box sets, deluxe editions, and such that have stuff I can't get on Spotify.

[@JohnnyRecently]

Animated Show! Loved it!

[@gwts1171]

I don't know this band. I was thinking of the drummer for Satyricon/1349/Gorgoroth. I like watching the ranking videos of bands I don't know. I can just enjoy the banter and not have to think about my own ranking. Plus - new music for me! Thanks Pete & Steven!! Edit: Guess you better just send that box set to me, Pete. :)

[@yurivogensen5438]

Great show guys. I've only listened to milliontown and day and age. Love them both. Have to check the other 2 out.

[@Orange_Affinity]

That Frost* box set is a format called an Artbook or sometimes an Earbook. I have a few and I love them for how beautiful they are, but they do take up more space. Like Pete, I collect cds and not vinyl. But like Steven, I am a sucker for something limited and lavish.

[@lordprefab5534]

Nathan King is Mark King's brother, and does videos for Andertons

[@lonegroover]

Yep and he's in Level 42! As a guitar player.

[@tmc1054]

Just discovered Frost, and I'm very grateful. Outstanding discography.

[@andrewhamer2512]

The Rockfield Files is actually a great way for someone to br introduced to the band. The version of Milliontown on there is actually my favourite one.

[@JesterJ49]

Love Steven's passion and deep knowledge for/of the subject matter. Already checking out Frost*'s discography.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks Jeff!

[@sspbrazil]

I really like this band, good to see this ranking episode. The new album is fantastic.

[@ayeatropoulos1]

That new album is Incredible!!!

[@wolf1977]

Re: vinyl records, I'm with Pete. I got rid of all my vinyl records about 3 years ago (sold them), I had maybe 1,200 or so. Also I'm not one of those who thinks that the warm sound of vinyl trumps the clean sound (and portability) of cd & mp3. So that was a no-brainer for me, even though I absolutely loved reading & looking at the actual vinyl record covers. Some were true works of art. What was more difficult was getting away from cd & into mp3. I initially thought that I would never do this but honestly I don't think I've played a physical cd in at least 2 years. I still have about 1,000 cd's but they're all packed away in a closet. I initially ripped those cd's to mp3 by going through each one & selecting the songs I like - this was very painful & labor intensive but now I'm glad I did this. Going forward I buy new music online in mp3 format (usually at 320kbps) which to me sounds very good, even when played back on my main sound system (nothing state-of-the-art but it is 7.1 surround) & especially in the car where I do much of my listening. What that really did is to expand my library tremendously, I couldn't possible have ever afforded to buy the amount of music I now own (about 56,000 songs & counting - some rough math assuming that I like maybe 3/4 songs per album that's about 14,000-19,000 albums' worth of music & well over $100k total investment). I set up a personal PLEX music server that distributes the music throughout the house & into the car. Best thing I ever did!

[@lazarossamaras4427]

Well 13 winters has a great e. p. with new songs. I've got their 4 cds separately because I use them like Pete said. The Milliontown new release has no liner notes. The box is great for a newcomer. Now ranking: Day and age Milliontown Falling satellites Experiments in mass appeal From a fellow dinosaur.

[@thomaswery3087]

I have several of the big box sets including SW and Porcupine tree.I use book shelves for mine works great

[@fernandomartincom]

Andrew Edwards is such an amazing musician 💪🏼😃🥁🎶 His drumming on Milliontown is very tasteful. Also, his deep understanding of prog and fusion history is evident in his KZbin channel videos 💯👏🏼

[@tonypeake467]

Love Andy's fusion YT vids

[@arnaudb.7669]

@@tonypeake467 I also love his channel!

[@richardmoseley2915]

I read somewhere that the drums on Milliontown were actually programmed by Jem

[@weemoose6942]

There's also the 17 or 18 minute long madness that is The Dividing Line, which is on disk8 of the box set and was also released with The Philadelphia Experiment.

[@keithshapland903]

The guitar solo on 'Closer to the sun' from falling Satellites by Joe Satriani is a killer..incredible structure and dynamics..

[@BSPVMD]

Great video. Love the banter, love the box set format "rant"! I'm not familiar with this band at all, but my interest is piqued, so I'm definitely planning to check them out. From the discussion, I'm wondering if Frost* has some similarities to a band I've just discovered a few months ago but who have absolutely rocketed to near the top of the list of my favorites ... Gazpacho. Like I've heard Pete say several times, I just had to go out and buy the whole discography straight out! I'm wondering if either Pete or Steven are familiar with them, and if not, they're highly recommended.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

To me Frost* are more technical and less atmosphere based than Gazpacho. Similar but really quite different. And yes, Gazpacho are excellent!

[@captainbeyond7469]

Hey Pete and Steven I’m a proud dinosaur also, I take my cd’s to the car every day for listening driving back and forth from work. Long live physical media.👍

[@TranquilityFireReid]

I completely agree Captain!

[@captainbeyond7469]

@@TranquilityFireReid Listening to the Sensational AlexHarvey Band today in the car. Cheers my friend!!

[@docdeens4030]

Id like to...got my new Toyota and was pissed to discover they don't put CD players in them anymore

[@TranquilityFireReid]

@@captainbeyond7469 Good choice!

[@DrawAndErase]

Bit of a late response but I love Frost* one of my top 3 bands. I would put 1. Falling Satellites, 2. Day and Age, 3. Milliontown and 4 Mass Appeal. I love how powerful Falling Satellites is, I love the vibe on every song, its super consistent, it's got slightly heavier moments and the concept is so strong, the callbacks throughout the songs are beautiful and it really just puts me in a great introspective mood. I also love how modern it sounds, it's super current and while they're known to have that heavy processed style and almost 80s sound, Falling Satellites keeps things focused on the now. The rest of the albums are just so good, Day and Age is also a really strong concept album. I think I miss some of the epic John Mitchell solo working on it, but I love it. Milliontown is just solid prog, it's always a record I recommend to people and the vocals and soloing is next level. It's fun and quirky and overall just fun. Experiments in Mass Appeal, I've tried to get into it recently as I thought I haven't given it much of a chance since it was always in last position for me, I never reach for it. I would like to say after giving it a few more spins it's still in last place, I'm not sure what it is but something just feels off about the record and I can't place my finger on it. Maybe because it's so brash, but I never want to reach for it.

[@JoeHiYo]

I think I agree with your rankings exactly. Jem wanted to do something very specific with EIMA, he writes a little bit about this in the 13 Winters box I think. He succeeded in what he wanted to do, but it's a bit divisive because he wanted a sound that was radically different from Milliontown. I think it's pretty harsh at points (brash, as you said), but the songs are on point as always. One thing I'd change about EIMA is less of the very quiet to very loud transitions, along with the overall mixing/compression issues. In some ways the remix sounds better (bass is audible!) but in others it sounds worse. I dream about what Steven Wilson could do with the stems.

[@chiragchittar4179]

Glad you guys did the ranking of two very different but modern progressive rock bands. I think frost* are a decent band and definitely very creative and trying to offer something different with each album. However, my main issue with the band is the mixing. On many occasions the intricate nature of the songs which involve a lot of keyboard textures sound messy cause of the way they are mixed where the sounds are in conflict with each other. I am also not the biggest fan of the vocals they are generic and don't do much to the music at hand. The great thing though is that they provide something different everytime and are very open to change (not just stuck with emulating the prog of the 70s. Pete is right they largely sound nothing like the 70s bands) and I highly respect that. In addition Godfrey is a fantastic keyboard player but he also knows how to play for the song. Some of his solos are extremely tasty. My picks (ranking exact same as Steven's! Wow) 1. Day and age 2. Milliontown 3. Falling satellites 4. Experiments in mass appeal

[@sdrandazzo]

Looking forward to your favorite FROST* albums. Really like the latest Day and Age album and the Milliontown album. My favorite song from them is The Boy Who Stood Still.

[@muldoon67]

Progosaurus. Never heard of them before, but I'm loving these albums. I thought they were going to be some Swedish Thrash/Death band.

[@lucymolockian1849]

Totally different band then I thought you were gonna talk about. I'll check em out.

[@arnaudb.7669]

Milliontown is AWESOME.

[@rikgay857]

Superb as always..10/10👍👍

[@erikmaronde2244]

Frost* are absolutely amazing! I like all their albums and which is my favorite varies with time. Jem Godfrey is a super-selling pop music and movie/TV composer and producer and started Frost* as a "fun project" with John Mitchell and Nathan King, Mark King's (Level42) brother. They are special and I like all their stuff🤘🖖

[@ayeatropoulos1]

Steven is my favorite of the guests!!!

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks Tony. It's so much fun being on the show!

[@ayeatropoulos1]

@@TranquilityFireReid Your ability to impart your passion and heart towards Riverside and their albums really comes through so well that I instantly decided that I needed to expand my Riverside catalog.. You seem to be very emotionally connected with the bands that you love the most that it really comes through.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

@@ayeatropoulos1 Thanks again. It means a lot to know that how I feel about the music comes across. And knowing that a few people have delved back into the Riverside catalogue - or taken a first dip - is very rewarding.

[@ThrashYaGutsOut]

I'm old school too fella's I still use CDs in the car my mate's take the piss out of me all the time cause I got Bluetooth in the car and I don't use it for music haha

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Love it Mick!

[@TractorCountdown]

You have to send Steve the box set, Pete. Great show as always, chaps. Now you've told us where they got the name FROST* it all makes sense - also the * is used to represent snow. I wonder if Jem Godfrey was a fan of A Touch of Frost with David Jason.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

The send Steven the box set campaign starts here! lol!!

[@TractorCountdown]

@@TranquilityFireReid We need a vote - Pete likes that sort of thing :)

[@TranquilityFireReid]

@@TractorCountdown Hahahaha!!!

[@patrickcrowther9195]

I am eagerly awaitIng the day Andrew Ridgeley reveals himself to be a virtuoso fusion guitarist and Bananarama's four string wizard releases 'Maestro - A Bass Symphony' (a tribute to Stanley Clarke).

[@richardchild6093]

I stumbled upon Frost* about a month ago and have been relishing everything I am hearing....I ordered Day and Age on vinyl before I had even finished listening to the whole thing on Spotify.

[@OsoGrimbeorn]

Strats at 10:12

[@stevefletcher6163]

Sound like yet another band for me to try, because I to lean more towards latter period Spock’s Beard . In the car probably as I’m a streamer in the car or out walking. In fact I stream or play vinyl at home too, and mainly buy just vinyl again as I’m currently without any cd player anywhere.

[@michaelsneade31]

You can't compare these guys to any other band. Very original.

[@rochound47]

Hang it on the wall Pete. It's great artwork

[@prognation7413]

Experiments in mass appeal that was my favorite album I absolutely looove that album 0 bad songs!

[@ericwalker6068]

1.) Milliontown 2.) Day & Age 3.) Falling Satellites 4.) Experiments In Mass Appeal

[@chrisdeprest130]

you have to check out Fist Hot Spikes and they had a follow up album Fleet Street .

[@1977tme]

4. Experiments in Mass Appeal 3. Day and Age 2. Milliontown 1. Falling Satellites

[@747jono]

Pete and Stephen I am also proud to be a dinosaur lol.

[@stewartmack4821]

Steven Wilson solo ranking next please

[@purpletemple1]

Maybe the * on the name is to dissociate them from "The Frost" , band from the 60's featuring Dick Wagner (Alice Cooper,...), (known as Frost on their 70's album). Great show!

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

Yes, could be-didn't think of that! Wagner's Frost was quite good!

[@F.O.H.]

Pete, so I took your advice. As I have never heard of this band I went and listened to the new album. Then I listened to the first one and then the other two. I really wanted to like this band but sadly I did not. After listening to the whole catalog I can not remember one song. Nothing stood out. I felt it was a bunch of sections pasted together (albeit some great sections I do admit). The musicianship is incredible. The songs have many elements I feel make great music; odd time signatures, tempo changes, good modal and harmony structure, etc... However, I never felt any song started you out on a journey and took you to the end of it. For me, a song has to have direction and motion that build you up and drop you down and build you back up again. And, occasionally a bridge and/or chorus. You would be hard pressed to find either of those with a floodlight and a metal detector. Like I said, I really wanted to like this band but I guess when you get down to it, no matter the bits and bobs you have to have a solid base. I didn't feel any of it did. So I put on Images and Words and the world is whole again....

[@danbretherton]

All of those CDs in your box set are available on Apple Music in lossless CD quality

[@weemoose6942]

1. Day and age 2. Milliontown 3. Falling satellites 4. Experiments in mass appeal Fyi, someone going by the name 'drarok' has collated lots of little snippets that Jem has released over the years. Do a google search for 'frost drarok'.

[@747jono]

Stephen, think I saw them as support to Dream Theater back in the day?

[@TranquilityFireReid]

You might be right Jonathan. I haven't been lucky enough to see Frost* live. I'd love to though.

[@rayfitch3027]

Steve morse rankings?

[@purpletemple1]

...even laptops don't come with a cd player anymore...

[@ahmadbarqawi8031]

I think everyone should check the band Tinyfish, Jem Godfrey's previous and short-lived band, I prefer them over Frost

[@TranquilityFireReid]

That's a seriously good recommendation!

[@ahmadbarqawi8031]

@@TranquilityFireReid thanks Steven, actually I made a mistake, Tinyfish is Simon Godfrey's band, he is Jem Godfrey's brother and he is hilarious... I used to frequent Tinyfish's website forum and get a good laugh out of their blog there, Nine Months on Fire is my favorite Tinyfish track.

[@jwaller132]

Pete: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHmqe3ian6iim7c

[@mainzergirl9610]

For me, Frost goes into the Gentle Giant category: great talent but the music does not move me in the slightest.

[@aidenswords5809]

Who are frost?

[@dissonanttapes]

Milliontown is definitely number one. Everything else is a far cry IMO.

[@PieGuyBill]

Always entertained by your show but Frost is just not for me. I need a melody with my Rock. Prog, Hard Rock, Folk Rock, Sothern Rock. I like them all if they include a melody that I like at least mixed in. I hear the musicianship and love John Mitchell with Arena because Area has great melodies. That's just my preference. "We Like What We Like"

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Absolutely Bill. We can't like everything and neither we should. Thanks for watching!

[@lahloonatic]

Let’s hope the asterisk is not inspired by Kurt Vonnegut.

[@samhouston1979]

reminds me of the late 70s band “ 1994: “ who’s band name officially included a colon

[@chrisdeprest130]

I realize it is not partianing to this segment

[@samhouston1979]

confession: i don’t know how to play a record…i’ve never heard an actual record

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Well, as the dance track said, 'stick the needle on the record'! Simple as that. Connect a record deck to an amp, start it spinning, place the needle on the record and sit back and enjoy the sounds! I'm sure you're not alone in never having heard a record sam.

[@tbls04]

Steven Reid is great, but sometimes I have trouble making out his Scottish accent. lol

[@TranquilityFireReid]

I believe there's a way to use 'close captions' and it gets subtitled? I'm not very tech so maybe my accent will be easier to understand than my attempt at helping?? lol! Thanks for watching!

[@tbls04]

@@TranquilityFireReid I guess I was just exaggerating a little. I always look forward to when you are a guest on SoT.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

@@tbls04 No worries mate, I'm just delighted you are watching the shows. Thanks for the support!

[@FundamentalsUK]

Great and unique band. Occasionally over produced imo but love the dynamics and playing is “off the charts “ !

[@kevindayton9757]

Greg Lake => John Wetton => John Mitchell ... 'nuf said.

[@thomasbeck2934]

IMO Frost* put out the most disappointing sophomore album ever.