Ranking the Top 30 Small Forwards in the NBA

[@iMixMaSteR1]

The opening remark about leaving off Tatum makes no sense because just like Kawhi he's a SF playing the Power Forward position. A better list would have been ranking Forwards, Guards, and Centers since so many players swap positions.

[@cheap272]

He played pf last year write an essay about it

[@bennettslavin3975]

Kawhi will play the three next year because PG is gone, the Celtics roster hasn’t changed so it will still be brown at the three and Tatum at 4, he’s just going off most likely for next year.

[@ryany6776]

This is projected based on the next season my guy, and Kawhi will play SF next season

[@Joseph_D-r6l]

@@ryany6776so then why did he rank OG and Bridges

[@connorgarrison6275]

Yeah he just did it based off what position they play. I feel like there's only 4 positions: guard, wing, forward, big

[@style.exe.]

LOVE that you mentioned franz got better last season, everyone is stuck on the 3pt% dipping but hes improved in every other aspect of his game, granted i hope his 3pt goes back up next season (it wasnt too good in the olympics iirc also) if his 3pt% goes back up along with his bigger frame, i think he can def average 23-24 which would go a long way with his rly good defense

[@ramzeezthamightygod]

I guess this is obvious but I feel like his progression/efficiency, or lack of it, will be such a huge swing factor between the magic either snatching a high seed from one of the bonafide contenders, or just being like last years Houston rockets but the east version. Paolo could definitely be a lot more efficient… but with his usage and Orlando’s relentless defense I’m not as worried about his role. Plus his trajectory has been pretty consistent and I’m very confident he’ll take another jump

[@Bolt_btw]

middleton 16th is so disrespectful... yall on see

[@littletasty24]

while 16 is definitely a little low, hes been struggling a lot with health and he isnt getting any younger. also with dame and giannis trying to run a more pick and roll centered offense hes going to lose a lot of touches and become more of a floor spacer

[@Bolt_btw]

@littletasty24 yeah I think that's fair but especially after the playoffs this year idk how some of the names that were above him were above him

[@bkelly625]

JDub is better than Mikal and OG but it’s ok ik u are a Knicks fan Last 48 game regular season (of 71 he played)- JDub- 31mpg…. 20.1ppg 4reb 4.9ast 1.2stl .8blk 1.7TO 55.8/45.5/77.9 👀 splits and +301 Last 48- Mikal- 35.4mpg… 18.7ppg 4reb 3.6ast 1.1stl .3blk 1.8TO 42.1/37.7/79.3 splits and -144 No player in NBA history has averaged 20ppg+ 55%+ from FG and 45%+ from 3 for a full season JDub did it for 2/3rds of his 2nd season for the 1 seed. OG averaged like 14 and 2 last season he’s good but too high

[@Chance_2018]

OG is an all nba defender

[@franklingroup5460]

Nah

[@bkelly625]

@@Chance_2018 I’m not denying that but so is Alex Caruso ik OG is better but still… A player averaging 20 and 5 on historic efficiency for 2/3rds of the season for a 57 win team is more valuable than OG

[@lucasio8793]

ESPN ahh stat💀if you have to use this convoluted metric to prove your point then maybe your not right

[@Nova088]

“ last 48” lol ok

[@wisconsinsportfan]

Khris middleton at 16 is wild. Bro was the bucks best player in the playoffs last year

[@spidamitchell8311]

He’s top 10

[@Shortballa11]

And they were out in the first round

[@Julian-xb7mj]

@@Shortballa11yeah cuz of injures

[@Shortballa11]

He was completely healthy in OKC when he was top 3 in mvp and still got outted first round

[@hyabberhane]

@@Shortballa11Huh

[@InkIsPink]

cam whitmore seems a little high lol, i’d arguably have amen over him on this list but overall solid, deni’s also so underrated so W addition

[@Zay2wavy64]

Amen should most definitely have made this list

[@NarcGasol]

brandon ingram that low is criminal lol

[@grapeape1965]

LMAO yeah right, hes too high if anything. Ingram is shit and he sure af isnt better than anyone ahead of him. Hes a loser

[@lenzoltan]

Not better than Demar, Wagner

[@ayJusto2]

@@lenzoltanbetter than og and bridges, you can argue wagner too

[@kingmnl1474]

@@ayJusto2 Facts!

[@MrGoated12372]

Sorry I’m taking the finals MVP over the guy who hasn’t played a full playoff series in three years

[@DonyeWhite]

😂😂😂 Kawhi still better

[@swagmaster4599]

You can have him boss man

[@MrGoated12372]

@@DonyeWhite In what possible way is he better?

[@Hhhhhsgaga]

@@DonyeWhitehasn’t done ish in LA

[@matthewmckenzie8921]

I really wanna see kawhi have a healthy year, I genuinely think hes one of those players that can solo lead a team to a deep playoff run, especially with Harden as a number 2. Healthy kawhi is still top 7 IMO

[@drift6785]

Beal should be the sg and Booker after his amazing Olympic run of being able to do everything. Book should be the new starting SF

[@i_fuze_hostages6]

I see the vision here although I wish Chris Paul or tyus was in PHX

[@TheWembyA]

Keldon not being top 30 is the 2nd bc craziest thing ive seen today

[@YourSunshine-k9z]

whats the first?

[@TheWembyA]

@@YourSunshine-k9z my massive penis

[@terronfrancis8127]

Keldon is a bad defender on a 20 win team, he’s not super efficient or a good playmaker either.. And Barnes might start over him next year

[@grapeape1965]

KMAO yeah fuckin right. He is trash and the spurs haven't been able to even give him away as the salary in trades much less him be worth any positive value haha. Top 30 SF my ass, delusional spurs fan like always

[@Dizcreti]

@@terronfrancis8127yeah some people think these lists are about raw talent instead of right now skill and how valuable their skills are.

[@gnm4]

This is super good list man. More or less where I see these guys' performance when healthy

[@jalynjones9136]

It’s not a good list stop lying to him

[@guibblegabble1280]

Bro out here praying for love on his little "list". So pathetic

[@cadrollhunting3564]

Struggling to se a point in a SF list where half of the players are clearly PF or SG.

[@clickbait3753]

these lists will get harder to define every year lol, nba is getting more and more positionless

[@cadrollhunting3564]

@@clickbait3753 agreed, that is why we should stop doing 5 lists and reduce to 3, forwards, guards and bigs.

[@cambamer123]

So Tatum is a SF playing PF but Kawhi isn’t, Mikal is gonna be the starting SG but just throw him in anyway, JDub played the entire season as the PF but now’s he’s a SF and apparently this list is a projection of what next year will be but you have guys who are the 3rd and 4th options on their team in the top 10, MPJ has shown he literally can’t do anything except shoot and rebound but u have guys who are younger, have more potential and do way more below him, zero regression from Demar or Jimmy but lots from Middleton (even though he’s the better shooter and the last time he played he looked outstanding), the rankings suck and the Knicks biased is glaring… overall I’d say it’s a pretty good list.

[@spidamitchell8311]

Kawhi is a Sf

[@mydogisacutie]

Dillon brooks that low is insane!

[@BudShin]

He’s top 10

[@spidamitchell8311]

He’s also a Sg pretty sure

[@Chickenpesto2468]

When I saw Grayson Allen and esmoth over him I was like what

[@-elixx-3819]

i feel like sharpe and avdija should both move up 2 spots… mathurin and jamie jaquez are not better than them

[@toostee8993]

Knicks fans try not to overrate all of their players challenge

[@_Itsuki1]

Cringe

[@SiccazHD]

The jump from OG to jimmy butler is huge. OG is maybe 84 ovr, while jimmy is 90+ Great vid

[@user-wu8sj3ee3d]

…insert name…that low is insane

[@youravgjoe42]

I agree with many of your evaluations of these players’ respective strengths, but thought that several of the players were not really small forwards. For example, doesn’t Jimmy Butler play most of his minutes at SG? There were plenty of dudes here that I think of as SGs or PFs.

[@perqtxlk5392]

Bro mentioned Josh green before Derrick jones jr 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@RobertJandrue]

Literally 0 reason to care bro 😭 mid off

[@perqtxlk5392]

@@RobertJandrue literally 0 reason to even comment under my comment

[@cesar_malca1224]

@@RobertJandrueyou don’t appreciate bball

[@lilkjsauce6505]

OG bout 10-15 spots too high fam

[@stephenchua1790]

Love the Trey Murphy pick. I also believe BI gets moved before the deadline and opens the door for TMIII to crack the top 10. Overall don’t think you get enough credit for creating a great list on such a subjective topic. Nicely done and couldn’t agree more with many of these.

[@petarmar1163]

bruce brown off the list is crazy work

[@matthewweih7890]

OG that high is wild

[@sama2086]

No it really isn't it

[@terronfrancis8127]

It’s not but I laughed at 20 point scorer

[@johnbacarella3783]

@matthewweih7890 lockdown defender. Shoots 40% from 3. Rather that than 25 points and no defense

[@matthewweih7890]

@@johnbacarella3783 herb jones is a better defender and has the same 3 pt %

[@jw6472]

@@matthewweih7890 no way you j said that

[@1800LUNATIC]

I don’t have a problem with your ranking of OG, but JDub already clears him offensively. I’m a raps fan and I’ve watched OG for years and he can’t create his own shot, and he can’t dribble. He turns the ball over on like 15% of his drives which is absurdly high, and while he can create some space from the midrange, he has trouble knocking it down off the dribble. I love og but his offence isn’t going to improve at this point.

[@iSEEBLACKnSILVER]

Y’all gotta stop with this Kawhi Leonard shit man frfr yea he’s still in the league true but the dude can’t fuckin stay in the court to prove why he’s that guy let alone #1 no I just can’t give that to him no more brah honestly it’s not fair to guys who are playing everyday including playoffs he shouldn’t be #1 at all bro frfr

[@bunterrrr]

og over jdub is crazy. og is 27 I can almost guarantee he's hit his ceiling and he's super injury prone. at the very least jdub is gonna play 10-15 more games than him every season with way better shot creation and playmaking

[@yukon_jak]

I commented that it was RIDICULOUS that you left Kelly Oubre off of the shooting guard rankings and guys kept saying that you considered him a small forward (even though 90% of his time was at the 2). Apparently you don’t think he’s a top 60 wing at all?? Don’t quit your day job. 😂

[@SoloPHL]

Aaron at 27 blows my mind

[@notihatebruhboi4111]

How is Keldon Johnson not on this list? He had more points per game more rebounds per game more assists and better efficiency than most people before Khris Middleton

[@kevindurant1589]

Scottie Barnes?

[@jaspd17]

I would hope he’s in the PF video but knowing Matt hates Scottie for no reason he will probably get left off the list 😭

[@spidamitchell8311]

He’s so overrated but top15-20 Could push top 10 forward this season

[@jakegoldberg6700]

By the end of the season I anticipate Deni being at least top 15

[@One2ManyCards]

SROS looks like a guy that would work for J.P. Morgan

[@huntsimpsports]

Beal and Grayson Allen at SF?? both SG but I can see Allen at SF but not Beal hes the definition of a SG

[@zanderzerwas7724]

love the jaden mcdaniels recognition

[@sidneypratt9017]

P-brick over jimmy buckets is crazy. If you swap their careers George isn’t taking the heat anywhere and the clippers probably make the finals. If your life was on the line for a mf to win a 7 game serious you aren’t picking pg over Jimmy stop lying to yourself. Good vids always but horrible take.

[@KyleWillam]

RJ BARRET NOT BEING ON THIS LIST IS CRIMNAL

[@rattyfamb]

on sg list

[@Sros1]

SG

[@kevindurant1589]

​@Sros1 then where is Scottie Barnes

[@KyleWillam]

@@Sros1starting line for the raptors gonna be quickly, gradey, barret, Barnes, and Jakob. I don’t see anyone other then barret or Scottie playing the SF position and either way they would both make this list if they played the SF position.

[@franklingroup5460]

What are canadian

[@xzvnz]

LOVE the cam whitmore praise

[@iSEEBLACKnSILVER]

Man Grayson Allen is a beast and a true 3&D wing in the nba ik my bulls don’t like him but fuck allat I love him frfr

[@stanleycheung8830]

mikal and og that high is sickening

[@Bones912]

Not really who u taking over them

[@sarsfien8625]

Knicks fan what do you expect

[@BenBlank-b5d]

As a Mavs fan I can say we miss green and djj

[@jalynjones9136]

Dude a demar hater he really would’ve rather said all negative things about his game but then his hate for him would be evident and blatant lol

[@joshuaperry2426]

Og being top 5 is absurd

[@cadenlapierre1829]

mikal and ogover jdub is crazy and gg jackson might need to be in the top 30

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

Dude is a homer

[@naaballtalk]

So if you put Beal in the SF based on team lineup, why not have Bridges in the SG ranking? He’ll be the starting 2 on the Knicks. Brunson Bridges Anunoby Randle Robinson

[@ethanedwards7557]

Kawhi number one in 2024 is beyond absurd.

[@michaelkoyak7002]

You should do a starting 5 ranking video using the average placements of each team's starting 5 in your vids

[@MattyG13]

I don't think people realize hartenstein isn't gonna start

[@i_fuze_hostages6]

I think chet would be a better 4 tbh. Shai ac jw chet hartenstein

[@syn.x22]

OG at 5 💀

[@mikiec125]

Sharpe will probably be a 2 going forward in my eyes. He screams Vince Carter lite potential if he developed a decent shot

[@Srgtheqb4124]

OG scoring 20 ppg lol 🤣

[@easleyreacts5827]

Harrison Barnes will have a breakout year for the Spurs

[@icetreym7911]

Cam Whitmore to break out? maybe, but Amen Thompson imo is the one who's breakin out better, pretty much does it all, potentially 3rd option for Houston if Jalen Green doesnt do anything too crazy, but solid 4th option alongside Jabari Smith Jr.

[@masonpower9544]

I wonder what team he supports😂

[@perqtxlk5392]

Not seeing Derek jones Jr on here makes me think you don't like him or just don't know ball 😅

[@vvvawdad1767]

Dawg you left djj’s hog spotless

[@perqtxlk5392]

@@vvvawdad1767 just like your mom left mines

[@goku1693]

So why are guys like Dort, Sharpe and Mathurin SF’s? All of them make more sense as SG’s. Is it just the way the team’s rosters shake out?

[@ethanedwards7557]

I would definitely take Jalen Williams over either of the Knicks he has ahead of him.

[@Reinmain12]

Ayyy respect for putting Dort at #18. I pray his 3pt% doesn’t dip

[@celticsin4]

I’m sorry but how is JB not at 1. Kawhi hasn’t been healthy in years while JB just won a championship and FMVP.

[@bkelly625]

Starting SF 2024 Rankings- 1. Kawhi Leonard-1a 2. Jaylen Brown-1a 3. Devin Booker-1a 4. Jimmy Butler-1a 5. Lauri Markannen-1b 6. Franz Wagner-1b 7. DeMar DeRozan-1b 8. Brandon Ingram-1b 9. Zach LaVine-1b (?) 10. OG Anunoby-1b 11. Khris Middleton-1c 12. Michael Porter Jr.-1c 13. Jaden McDaniels-1c 14. Alex Caruso-1c 15. RJ Barrett-1d (^?) 16. Aaron Nesmith-1d 17. Marcus Smart-1d 18. Kelly Oubre Jr.-2a 19. Kyle Kuzma-2a 20. Jerami Grant-2a 21. Dillon Brooks-2b 22. Cam Johnson-2b 23. Andrew Wiggins-2b (?) 24. Klay Thompson-2b (bounce back ^?) 25. Tobias Harris-2b 26. DeAndre Hunter-2c 27. Stephon Castle-2c (^?)(start over Sochan?) 28. Max Strus-2c 29. Rui Hachimura-2d 30. Josh Green-2d

[@joshahlstrom2764]

So do you have J Dub as a 2 guard? Technically he’s OKCs starting power forward cuz they do small ball but that’s not his actual position.

[@bkelly625]

@@joshahlstrom2764 I have him as starting PF again but ik he plays multiple positions

[@daveyt9815]

Kawhi isn’t 1a anymore man, his knees are just gonna be worst next year. He’s 1b at best

[@bkelly625]

@@lilmanxan2673 From what I hear Hartenstein will probably come off the bench

[@CTS1stEdition-it3pf]

Where is Brandon Miller

[@nickralston4140]

This was a great list!

[@jaredpadgett9656]

Dort isn’t coming off the bench.

[@omarcalcano9817]

Great video but RJ Barrett is gonna surprise you if you don't even have him as an HM

[@bryanmatthews9591]

If I actually knew how to edit videos, I could actually offer up a real opinion

[@DrizzeI]

Jimmy at 4 is disrespectful

[@thomastizzy1987]

I disagree with Bradley Beal being a SF! That wouldn’t happen. 6”2 6”3 Beal at SF is a joke. They might run a 3 guard rotation at times, but to call him a SF is crazy.

[@NuradinAlas]

KD should be number 1

[@vinnypeng6106]

bro's a PF my guy

[@YoungIllyMusic1]

Brandon going for 20 pts per game next year

[@farmandfields2023]

Give it two years, Brandon Miller will be an all star

[@Verdaddd]

Um, so we skipping bron tatum and kd because they are listed at pf even though everyone knows them as a sf? “Oh yeah, you heard of that great pf player from the celtics a few years back?” “Oh who, Garnett?” “NOOO, TATUM OBVIOUSLY.” 😂

[@i_fuze_hostages6]

Tatum has been our 4 for a while now

[@Verdaddd]

@@i_fuze_hostages6 hes not a traditional 4

[@i_fuze_hostages6]

@@Verdaddd he's not but he's been ours for a long time now so he's a pf

[@Verdaddd]

@@i_fuze_hostages6 lmao

[@perqtxlk5392]

Just remake the list and add DJJ on the list I don't care what number but respect him he was just in the finals while guarding the oppositions best player.

[@stretchpunchbeef8982]

So? He's off the bench lol

[@perqtxlk5392]

@@stretchpunchbeef8982 no he didn't come off the bench goofy wtf are you talking about 🤡

[@brianqi2751]

Crazy that you put a man who very likely would voluntarily miss however long or short period of time as he pleases and who ironically enough the last time when he was fully healthy in the playoffs, he put up 10 or was it 14 points in the game 7, honoring Kobe with PG combining for 24 together. This man is a total disgrace of pro basketball. A good player when he plays maybe, but a total disgraceful person in general

[@mrrandywatson658]

Brandon Miller will make top 5

[@vasniivy]

i think og and pg sre a little high, i think beal’s a little low but overall a really solid ranking

[@eltoro_ttv]

How Lebron isn’t the #1 small forward is preposterous to me

[@samuelsmith25]

It's because he has played more at PF (player percentage) than at SF.

[@perqtxlk5392]

Bro does not know ball at all it's crazy no Derrick jones jr when he was just in the finals and had the best 3 pt percentage of his career 🤡 don't make a list again 😂 primary defender on Paul George btw in the mavs vs clippers series he was boxing Paul George

[@ValkcyYT]

Hold up OG is better than Ingram MPJ j dub ETC Ik your a knick fan but Matt be true bro

[@BrianCabbage]

Every single honorable mention was better then wiggins

[@YoungIllyMusic1]

Mathurin more of a shooting guard than small forward

[@ChuggaSIX]

Allen is not a defensive liability?

[@thomasmontgomery805]

As a raptors fan if OG was that good we would have kept him lol your tripping

[@wyattedwards5493]

Name where you would have Austin Reeves ranked!

[@jeremygamerli5862]

Power forward next

[@starkller919]

Beal is a 2, Booker is considerably larger than him lol

[@eliasgeigle9495]

Great list

[@Instantur]

Jaylen will probably move up to 1 this season

[@israteeg752]

No way Bradley Beal is 15. He should be down or out.

[@Asura13362]

Brandon miller over jaden mcdaniels and herb jones is crazy, hes barely better than kris middleton

[@navisawesome03]

I'm taking JDub and Franz over Bridges and OG.

[@robboss1330]

Bro where sochan at since this season he gonna play sf

[@Sros1]

PF

[@Crizzzy12]

Lostnunbound type vid

[@franklingroup5460]

Nah

[@ghost2811-q7x]

Brad Beal is a SG I thought

[@SDesWriter]

I can’t stop laughing that you put Lou Dort at number 20 when he’s been shooting guard and is now going to be a bench playing small forward. He’s never been particularly impressive and was a role player for team Canada, and now is going to get 15 to 20 minutes a game but he’s the 20th best small forward in the NBA. 😂 Meanwhile, Klay Thompson doesn’t even make the list after scoring 19 ppg on 39% from 3 in a down year. I mean, did you even write this down or was this just off the top of your head?

[@bryanmatthews9591]

Dude when you started with Wiggins at #30, I think you lost everybody

[@St3.]

Josh Hart PF at 6'1

[@Chickenpesto2468]

OG and Mikal are so high

[@thih_turtl3955]

are you counting kuminga as a PF?

[@brunito747]

Bro, does OG sponsors this video?

[@DaRealDealMannie]

Mikal better then OG that was wild OG too high JDub should be at 5