Rapid reaction to Patriots hiring Alex Van Pelt as their new offensive coordinator | Patriots Talk

[@dfk4500]

Just give the man a chance!!! WOW

[@aboveSubparBallAnalysis]

Mac is good stily

[@davidbordeaux1575]

What Van pulled off with the Browns was freaking awesome. 4 QBs/OL and they still make the playoffs!!! Dude coached some of the top QBs over the last 10 years, freaking dope hire!

[@carlg5860]

He didn't call the plays in Cleveland and then was fired .

[@AC-py9dk]

That was the defense unfortunately

[@davidbordeaux1575]

@@AC-py9dk you stop it right now sir.

[@AC-py9dk]

@@davidbordeaux1575 No, I don't think I will

[@davidbordeaux1575]

@@AC-py9dk 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJatkHlroaegqZYsi=2amHziNhFtPiyGeS

[@petermarshall6577]

Solid hire, not flashy but very solid.

[@Dawhitex]

I wouldnt say he isnt flashy. Was part of a shanahan style scheme and Mike McCarthy he can pull his knowledge from multiple sources and experiences. Always good. Hes an established Coordinator and will most likely not search a HC job. For me he is the best possible pick up we could make espacilly because of his experience with coachings QB's

[@petermarshall6577]

@@Dawhitex So now how will the draft go with his wealth of experience...QB-WR-OT-???

[@stickman1742]

Well he did come cheap so there's that.

[@obarbeito]

This is a great hire. Love it.

[@SD-zx1uh]

Best Patriots coverage!

[@marclefebvre7071]

Hope Van Pelt takes a serious look at Mac & Zappe and the rest of the offense. If we have a QB who can play, hopefully we get Harrison Jr in the draft.

[@shonwest1539]

Mac is going to be a free agent, and Zappe is trash. We need to get rid of both of them and start over enough of the old

[@jayy88]

Hope he told them he wouldn’t take the job if Mac is the QB.

[@shonwest1539]

@@jayy88 he won't be. The Patriots already said there not giving him anything past the rookie contract which means he'll be a free agent

[@Jakery1057]

No reason to throw a rookie QB right into the fire. Brady, Rodgers, Love and Mahomes all sat for their first season plus some. Draft a QB, let him sit behind say Brissette who's familiar with Van Pelt's system for a season or so. They'll need time to gather talent around him. Your not "wasting" a season. The rookie can sit, observe and learn.

[@EricNeilson_]

Just play Zappe.

[@thatDUDEfromMAINE]

​@@EricNeilson_terrible idea

[@thepeopleschampion92]

100% agree . Draft Williams , Maye, or Daniels . Let Brissett be the Bridge and let’s ride

[@oldmanmob4659]

​@@EricNeilson_ so you want a top 3 pick in next year draft?

[@S27-y8e]

The best player at the position should play. That simple. If your good enough your experienced enough. We need to get back to winning football games and making the playoffs

[@flyingelvis8850]

Patriots also need a new O-line Coach!

[@ironPatriots48]

True.. The official new england patriots website says they are "Highly " looking to hire Seahawks/rams coach Andy Dickerson.

[@tjk9263]

Its a shame about Adrian Klemm. I thought he was going to fix our oline cause at University of Oregon, they have the top 5 best olines in the country every season when Klemm was there.

[@flyingelvis8850]

The Patriots NEED A NEW WR COACH! Troy Brown needs to go!

[@jday9529]

Yea he needs to go...our wr core been bad since brady last year with the patriots

[@thatDUDEfromMAINE]

I'm no sure it's Troy's short comings OR bill surrounding him with lackluster talent and letting our best WR go to vegas for the same deal that we signed juju to. you can't polish a turd

[@brandonknight6575]

Troy brown was a great WR and patriot..I'm not sure it's Troy's fault, he's had no damn talent to coach and then bb let's go jacoby Myers.

[@papifuego5273]

Boston media just hates everyone im learning. Great hire for a young team. Hes solid and has experience. Something this coaching staff desperately needs now.

[@thatDUDEfromMAINE]

yeah Boston sports media can never be pleased, always think they have all the answers and honestly just need to stfu.

[@mikeloomis5435]

I was getting nervous the Pats were going to hire everyone from within. This hire encourages me. I wonder what Van Pelt thinks of Fields?

[@ironPatriots48]

I don't understand what the browns expected from signing watson to all this money, after not playing for 2 years of no football, to come in and be this dynamic QB. Certainly wasn't pelt's fault.

[@edgardorivera8857]

Right? He got all the other QBs to play relatively well, including an old Joe Flacco who was sitting on his couch most of the season. Maybe Watson is the problem 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@martinalbert29]

I would take Maye or Daniels and also trade up for a receiver or Tackle in the late 1st round, then draft either receiver or tackle on the top of the 2nd round. Let’s build a good nucleus this year, then even if does not go welll we have a nucleus to add good draft picks to next year. This includes re signing Onwenyu and Henry.

[@seeking70]

Time will tell. Hopefully, Mac and Zappe didn’t buy homes in Massachusetts.

[@short_kingzz]

🤣🤣

[@LimaJayaSRC]

Improvement fo' sure ❤

[@Drew-f4m]

I like it with a good o-line and maybe make a splash in free agent spending bring in Barkley at rb with Stevenson

[@johnmitchell4769]

Probably the best they could get. Think about it, what would be the draw to bring a top OC candidate to NE? Brand new HC with no track record, you're following in the shadows of a 20 year dynasty so fan expectations are high, and you have minimal talent on offense. No real starting QB, a very poor offensive line and virtually no talent at WR. Not a real attractive situation for an OC. Hopefully him being an outsider will bring new energy and ideas to the organization. No way to go but up .

[@stickman1742]

Kraft going cheap on coaching staff? What a huge surprise!

[@mehtacotute]

This has me thinking Pats are drafting a QB like Maye. But ahead of that - this puts a trade for Fields or the 1.01 into play.

[@Mooseman327]

No, not Fields.

[@JModernise]

I think it's a solid hire we just gotta cross our fingers and hope we get the QB right.

[@dwayneroberts6616]

This all points to them trying to save Mac Jones. Their not drafting a QB their taking MHJ if they don't trade back. They may grab one in the second round but this is Kraft wanting to make the QB he drafted work. It was the Krafts that wanted MJ not BB. This is going to be a disaster.

[@Ishootback239]

Disaster? Thank God you’re not in charge of anything in the organization. Have you seen any of the statistics these last few seasons in New England? Did you not see how close a lot of those games were for the patriots even being one of the worst offense in the league? You obviously haven’t watched much of any of the Patriot games 😂😂😂

[@617Sage]

@@Ishootback239please tell this casual 9 very close losses mac never had help no true weapons and no protection i wonder how he will do with help and building the roster up

[@jayy88]

@@Ishootback23980% of ALL nfl games are within one score. I’m sure the panthers had a lot of close games to

[@Taadow81]

I’m hoping he brings Stump Mitchell to the patriots with him.

[@LsElite4210]

Too many ppl forget we went 4-13 seen a bunch of ppl complaining he didnt coach a top 10 offense witch ok but we were a bottom 5 I’ll take middle of the pack and ina playoff game rather than bottom 5 in almost every category

[@edgardorivera8857]

I think his offense was top 10 this year- despite starting 5 different QBs and losing Nick Chubb to injury

[@LsElite4210]

@@edgardorivera8857 na I feel the same way but if you do look at the numbers they were pretty middle of the pack in just bout every offensive stat except points scored were I think they were #10 but either way that’s pretty impressive with the squad he had

[@oldandangry44]

I thought Ra,Ra, didn’t work in the pro’s? We got all Ra Ra coaches!

[@jamesdemaio265]

I want to see them get Jayden Daniel's. If not then Drake May.

[@sunnypatel3711]

If it's Daniels especially, get Brisset and let the rookie work his way into starting job sometime during the season.

[@johnboivt]

Why does everyone think Mac is unfixable? Draft a QB, maybe. WR and OL more important

[@matthewvigil4405]

I like Mac bill messed him up

[@RonBeaulieu]

I never liked Mac even when he was in college. Was surrounded with tons of talent. He also has a terrible attitude

[@koruakillsityes3002]

Hey Van Pelt....next stop at the Golden Corral....try the salad bar.

[@Itz_Crawfish]

Im still trying go figure out why the browns fired this guy....I seriously wanna know what happened

[@kevint3676]

I heard a lot of people guessing that it had something to do with Deshawn Watson

[@petermarshall6577]

Scape goated.

[@DV-id6di]

He wanted to call plays. Stefanski called the plays. Opportunity for Van Pelt to leave

[@Itz_Crawfish]

@@DV-id6di oh okay thanks bro

[@harryfuller3881]

@@DV-id6di I have not read that, but makes sense. No growth in CLE for him.

[@toddtownsend1079]

We're like, the new expansion team, it's exciting and Mr. Kraft will get us there again I'm sure. Maybe this is the year I takes that trip around the world with no money. I gets back in 25 or 26 and the Patriots are back in the Playoffs. We gotta let the past go now. GO PATRIOTS!!!.

[@dakibmw]

If Bears decide to keep Fields and go for MHJ, what would be the "price" to go from 3rd to 1st and take Caleb? Next years 1st, that I figured on my own, but what else?

[@jonjonEnt1]

Hello Cleveland browns fan here yes it was hire up but breer isn’t really reliable of a source but The reason why higher-ups let go of Alex was because we needed to change our offense to fit deshaun also it was too predictable at times their can be very creative in the offense but it always sputtered down the line

[@middapoo8961]

I bet phil loves when Tom cuts him off mid sentence

[@gosiahodge3462]

Mayo at least did something Bill couldnt do...something for the offense.

[@billthebutcher5549]

keep that same energy when the pats dont sniff the playoffs for a long time

[@seevang8479]

We have 13 pick this draft and next draft together 7 this year 6 next year

[@coachhiggs]

Phil Perry drinking an Old Milwaukee

[@GoHerd2001]

This is starting to feel a lot like '97-'99 when everyone was tired of the authoritarian approach of the Parcells regime and we hired a bunch of guys that just wanted people to feel good about themselves - led by Pete Carroll - who was fun to be around but dreadfully disorganized and undisciplined. 3 years of spiraling later and we brought back another authoritarian (Belichick).

[@christopherwaits7852]

Elliot Wolf left the Browns before AVP was hired

[@owensnyder1292]

I hope the Pats draft a QB and then build the OL, WR and TE groups over the next 2 drafts and free agency periods. They can sit the rookie QB to learn and develop for a year. No sense throwing a rookie QB out there with no OL. If they draft MHJ they have no QB, OL or TEs. To draft a QB in 2025 would delay the whole process until maybe 2026-27 season. By then MHJ will be close to hitting free agency. I doubt any good QBs will choose the Pats in free agency and its not often good QBs are traded. I dont want to see a bunch of QBs who didnt work out with their first or 2nd team and the Pats hope can turn it around. We need young talent and to actually hit on drafting WRs ,OL, TEs. A franchise caliber QB is hard to get and the Pats shouldnt count on getting a top pick after next season.

[@littlenugs9942]

Just a thought... If you don't fix the O-line first - don't you think what happened recently to Mac Jones will happen to the next young QB. How many sacks did Mac/Zappe take this past season. How about knock downs, rushed passes? I say trade back to pick 6-10 please. Grab a OT and pick up another 2nd round pick. There's a beast in waiting who won't be there in round 2. I forgot his name but he's there lol

[@jayy88]

Burrow went to the superbowl while leading the entire league in sacks.

[@littlenugs9942]

@@jayy88 who was his surrounding cast... But you are right

[@jayy88]

@@littlenugs9942 I agree he had good WRs, my only point is it’s hard to have both and with Mac everything needs to be perfect

[@littlenugs9942]

@@jayy88 trust I'm not thinking of running Mac out there. I'm thinking go get a Kirk Cousins for 2 yrs. And draft a QB to learn just not with the top pick. If we trade down we get more to choose from. We need as much talent as possible come training camp. If history of the draft has shown us anything the top ranked players don't always pop in the NFL.

[@jayy88]

@@littlenugs9942 true but most good QBs are drafted in the 1st round. 7 of the final 8 QBs this year were 1st round picks.

[@chrism9165]

Experience doing what? Just because you have done something forever doesn’t make you good at it.

[@sethhussey5804]

Who were they getting that's better? Love it, makes sense across the board

[@courtneyharris50]

Damn Phil sit still lol

[@billthebutcher5549]

He was so great they fired him

[@NorEEzta]

This guy or a tight ends coach? Tough call. /s

[@bigjakepatriotstalk3389]

The only thing the Patriots need is new reporters

[@davidholt2335]

solid hire

[@GregMatses]

Van Pelt will have Zappe zipping it by September

[@DV-id6di]

Leave that alone 😂 Zappe is shit ❤

[@Mitch-x6m]

No

[@ericthornberg]

Better chance of seeing the return of the Mac

[@thatDUDEfromMAINE]

why do people actually think zappe is a decent starter!?

[@oldmanmob4659]

Zappe 😂😂😂 so you want a top 3 pick in next year draft

[@markmccreadie6212]

Well he never called the plays, the head coach did. So he doesn't have experience

[@rbdvs67]

Van Pelt should be someone who has the network to build a solid coaching staff for this desperate offense. I think this is an exciting rebuild, something we have not experienced around here for a couple of decades. If they hit on some free agents and draft picks, this could be a quick return to playoff contention because their defense already keeps them in games. Should be fun!

[@gosiahodge3462]

Now lets replace some of the dead weight Bill coaches...get some new blood at position coaches.

[@bigjakepatriotstalk3389]

I just think it's impossible to please any these patriots reporters they are all negative, never happy about anything that going on its really hard being a pats fan n the off season because these guys would have you thinking the team has no hope smfh

[@yohanonshine4664]

Cheapest Joe Schmoe

[@moheganson]

Arch Manning 2026 🙏

[@jasongaboriau8964]

Belichick, MacDanials and Vrabal to the Jets. We want coaches who know how to win not know how to rub the players tender feelings.

[@digitaltwizzlers8065]

Phil Perry looks like he's trying to hide a coke addiction. Get some sleep, boss.

[@werocktheplanet]

He's gonna be awful. Was NOT good at Cleveland.