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Rappler Talk with Boy Abunda and Xiao Chua: Is history like tsismis?

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More videos on Rappler: www.rappler.co... In this Rappler Talk, celebrity talk show host Boy Abunda and historian and professor Xiao Chua sit down to discuss how tsismis or gossip intersects with history and why people think they can be one and the same. They also tackle how we should see and understand history as Filipinos.
As a treat to viewers, the two personalities also engage in a fun rundown - a la fast talk - of historical events and the gossip or fact that surround these. www.rappler.co... Follow Rappler for the latest news in the Philippines and around the world.
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@JMKayneonJMTV
@JMKayneonJMTV 2 жыл бұрын
First Rappler show that deserves to become a series... with Tito Boy who is very objective, same way with Prof Xiao.
@bimbam9603
@bimbam9603 2 жыл бұрын
Just subscribe to tito bhoy's channel, Yung way of questioning ni bagito ay very manipulative sakin at may gustong puntahan, masosoplak ka talaga pag matalino kausap mo kasi gets nya ang hawi mo.
@jasperjornales2458
@jasperjornales2458 2 жыл бұрын
Therefore history is never tsimis... but sometimes a tsismis could become historical once it can be verified by facts and evidences.
@motivationaltv7071
@motivationaltv7071 2 жыл бұрын
Binawasan mo namn. Wag bawasan ng " like". Kasi tsimis na pag may bawas.
@praisesandquotations
@praisesandquotations 2 жыл бұрын
So when verified by facts and evidences becomes a history. Therefore its tsismis first before it became history.
@antonino2993
@antonino2993 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda is a Certified Chismosa by day and a Marcos Apologist by night!
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more.
@fernandocruz4877
@fernandocruz4877 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnapacible6352 please elaborate
@bhavanijaydove8361
@bhavanijaydove8361 2 жыл бұрын
True that. And Rappler could have used another certified chismoso with integrity.
@Rj-yp4ux
@Rj-yp4ux 2 жыл бұрын
@@bhavanijaydove8361 maybe that’s the reason why they chose tito boy.
@christine6074
@christine6074 2 жыл бұрын
@@bhavanijaydove8361 so dahil hindi umaayon sayo ang opinion nya wala na syang integrity?. uneducated ka naman. Mag aral ka naman wag puro rappler
@puccismile
@puccismile 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an amazing discussion. I feel impassioned listening and want more. I honor both of the guests and proud of them as Filipinos. It would be nice to have a regular show with both of them - academics and application and do this listnthat Tito Boy has. Lets talk about our history for love of country objectively. So that the young people get a clearer picture of who we really are. Please!
@japroncualno8815
@japroncualno8815 2 жыл бұрын
I must say these two has brilliant and beautiful mind. Rappler reporter and staff kudos to your team in guesting them. Your viewers learned a lot po. Salamat🙏🙌🙏
@sisaako3993
@sisaako3993 2 жыл бұрын
Maraming PERA Pambili si BBM, hindi lang emotion, ignorance or disinformation!!
@marckuppr
@marckuppr 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of tito boy. Napaka unbiased, totoong tao. Galing. 🇵🇭
@Drepipz
@Drepipz 2 жыл бұрын
Isa lang masasabi ko I’m not invalidating lahat ng nagawang mali ni FEM. pero napaka injustice naman for FEM na sasabihing wla siyang nagawang maganda sa ating bansa
@don_2755
@don_2755 2 жыл бұрын
1st term marami talaga nung 2nd term at nung martial law era dun na nagloko
@daisysee2935
@daisysee2935 2 жыл бұрын
@@don_2755 That's it... timeline is the answer.
@arinix3618
@arinix3618 2 жыл бұрын
He was punished due to the wrong things he did, not because of injustice. History helps us understand what we must avoid to repeat from past's mistake. I don't believe the "nagawang maganda,"whatever it is, was not included in the history. All projects signed by FEM will always be there. The nation's debt during his term went to his projects and his pocket at the same time. Nutribun and Australian aid which was supposed to be completely free was used by LGUs to be people's income from making roads or other works. People just doesn't want to accept they were victims of corruption and they do not know how to change that. After all, after FEM, people still voted Cory, Erap and FPJ for president although having no background or knowledge about politics. Even senatorial elections, people think popularity and color matters.
@don_2755
@don_2755 2 жыл бұрын
@@arinix3618 legit
@mandeelyn6895
@mandeelyn6895 2 жыл бұрын
pupusta ako dito meron nanamang mag tatake out of context and nit picking, hindi mo maiintindihan yung point of view nila if pipiliin mo lang yung gusto mo pakinggan i just hope the viewers take this as a whole
@ccyesornocc7989
@ccyesornocc7989 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot control how other people think and talk coz of a lot of factors. If one is educated MOST LIKELY ( see, I didn't type ALL) the person will listen to both sides but bear in mind other people have other viewpoints, too, albeit educated or not. Before I thought, communication is the very important key to understand each person but I realized every time, it is one's ability to listen that makes a difference. One can communicate he/she all he/she wants but if the other person won't listen to you, then every word has no meaning. 😉
@NiX_aKi
@NiX_aKi 2 жыл бұрын
Ang sarap kausap si Tito Boy. Full of wisdom and humor. Ginaganahan lahat.
@goodgirl9484
@goodgirl9484 2 жыл бұрын
Sana po may segment tayo na tulad nito na pwede mapanood sa fb, tiktok, at syempre dito YT para ma access ng mga filipino. Mas maganda rin meron din sa mga big stations like GMA, TV5 at abscbn
@bhavanijaydove8361
@bhavanijaydove8361 2 жыл бұрын
Oo nga eh, para naman madaming ma engage lalo na mga bata. Ako, tanders nako.. Wala ng mawawala sakin. Pero, mga bata, madami pang mawawala sa kanila
@maryjanemontemayor
@maryjanemontemayor 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Sir Chua for very clear explanation po, looking forward for more lessons about history. Thank you very much Rappler. God Bless po.🙏🇭🇰
@leomeiales4067
@leomeiales4067 2 жыл бұрын
If listening to the teaching of Chua's Marcos history, well, not accurate.
@gamerchannel8078
@gamerchannel8078 2 жыл бұрын
@@leomeiales4067 pero historian siya mas may alam siya kesa sayo o sakin diba?
@leomeiales4067
@leomeiales4067 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamerchannel8078 Sa history nalang ng mga Marcos ay wala na siya. Sa akin pa kaya o sa 31 m umaprub sa kasaysayan ng mga Marcos. Historian din po ako ng aking mga anak at mga apo.
@kingsatria6483
@kingsatria6483 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamerchannel8078 chua. chinese ang historian ng pilipinas?
@gamerchannel8078
@gamerchannel8078 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingsatria6483 chua is his surname but I am sure mas may alam siya sa history ng Pilipinas kesa sayo kasi ang pagiging historian ay inaaral yan at need mo ng napakatinding critical thinking jan
@erlindabaybayan2069
@erlindabaybayan2069 2 жыл бұрын
boy abunda very likeable individual.I HOPE HE CAN CONTINUE .HE IS THE BEST5 OF WHAT HE DOES. NO BIASES.
@joycelozada2625
@joycelozada2625 2 жыл бұрын
Such a big revelation for me about Boy Abunda,, someone I USED to respect and admire before bec of intellectual and informative discourses. Now I know whose side he is in this political discourses, and the fight between good and evil. Kudos to the Historian and the Rappler, They're the real substance of this talk. show.
@isabellapineda139
@isabellapineda139 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. He has his own ulterior motive in doing this interview in my opinion …
@CsRed-zu1ms
@CsRed-zu1ms 2 жыл бұрын
So true. M
@ceciliaescueta7746
@ceciliaescueta7746 2 жыл бұрын
True
@christianlobaton5844
@christianlobaton5844 2 жыл бұрын
di lang umayon sa gusto nyu yung mga sinasabi nya eh...mga ipokrito..
@isamarievaller8979
@isamarievaller8979 2 жыл бұрын
Parang mga takot kalkalin uli ang history eh, dapat kung alam mo ginawa mong tama ang history kahit saan ka itapon matapang ka dahil me bitbit ka na proof ng katotohanan, magandang debate to pag nag kataon malalaman talaga ang katotohanan!! Cant wait!!😅🍻
@macbelmonte
@macbelmonte 2 жыл бұрын
Engaging! Definitely good collaborations between the King of Talk and Mr. Chua. Rappler really gave a good balance with the show. Interesting and nicely done.
@hiidenwarrior2698
@hiidenwarrior2698 2 жыл бұрын
Balan! Hahaha! Funded by CIA balan!
@zipperman9923
@zipperman9923 2 жыл бұрын
This very conversation is exactly where the problem lies, notice Chismis abunda speaks more than Historian Chua should. #irony
@janinemateo4020
@janinemateo4020 2 жыл бұрын
Di nanaman kase pasok sa narratives nyo e. Iyak
@orniejoaquin8276
@orniejoaquin8276 2 жыл бұрын
Tito Boy has always been objective in his judgments. I couldn't agree more with his statement that we have to listen to both sides of the story.
@zrnz8879
@zrnz8879 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what I did, before the election, I research both sides myself and I found out there is something wrong and right between 2 SIDES. Tito Boy was Indeed right.
@seanandreitabay6084
@seanandreitabay6084 2 жыл бұрын
He was very objective in different issue kase almost lahat ng bagay na yon is controversial and naipapakalat ng mali kaya he was very objective para malaman natin kung ano ang tama at mali in that certain issue
@SimpleIvy1982
@SimpleIvy1982 2 жыл бұрын
I love this discussion in Rappler channel about “Is History like a Chismis” very interesting and very informative make us smart in a ways of many ideas what this topic look like. Thank you Rappler with your extraordinary guest in our country Professor Xiao Chua and Tito Boy Abunda. 💗🙏🏻
@erlindayocampo1577
@erlindayocampo1577 2 жыл бұрын
You tube
@gabbiwrongmother
@gabbiwrongmother 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this discussion. Comprehensive and interesting.
@edzel6843
@edzel6843 2 жыл бұрын
Napakagandang segment nito. Sana ituloy tuloy ng rappler. napka simple, nag kkwentuhan sa canteen hahahah
@MP-pi3mj
@MP-pi3mj 2 жыл бұрын
These are the people who should be listened to. Apart from having a name, they have credibility.
@VictorArcoChannel
@VictorArcoChannel 2 жыл бұрын
This is an educational and smooth conversations... God bless Philippines and all the academic people especially the historians!
@hongonzalesable
@hongonzalesable 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda you’re the best to expound Tsismis & History 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@aldouscaneta
@aldouscaneta 2 жыл бұрын
"The majority is always wrong: the minority is rarely right". - Henrik Ibsen
@belletrocio2260
@belletrocio2260 2 жыл бұрын
Kelangan tlaga siguro irevisit yung history natin. Kasi parang partly tama si Ella. Shoutout kay ella she has become instrumental to a very important discussion.
@zrnz8879
@zrnz8879 2 жыл бұрын
True, I myself , before the election. I did not focus myself sa one side lang, but nag reresearch ako both sides. Pinagtitimbang ang both sides
@lol-uj4ni
@lol-uj4ni 2 жыл бұрын
Agree!!!
@bellabaluyot5590
@bellabaluyot5590 2 жыл бұрын
Historians and tsismosas are just the same they are good story tellers it's up for them of how they interpret and research on the topic
@mamachervlogs3030
@mamachervlogs3030 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@winstonrodriguez7019
@winstonrodriguez7019 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda, mahirap pagkatiwalaan kapag history ang pinag-usapan dahil sa buong buhay nya tsismis ang pinagkakaabalahan niya.
@rosemiles3747
@rosemiles3747 2 жыл бұрын
agree..i use to like boy abunda but not anymore,there were part na biased siya cuz he is a manager of toni g. and mariel which happen to be the wife of robin..chismis is chismis and history is a history bcuz there's evidence or proof for the fact.
@kwentongcar-car6535
@kwentongcar-car6535 2 жыл бұрын
You have a point there. So maybe we should not rely in trust and discover the truth by trying to be more open minded.
@camoumilecamoflage8875
@camoumilecamoflage8875 Жыл бұрын
I love this discussion. It was more than an hour long but I felt engaged the whole time. Both sides were well argued but at the same time, there was no hostility or rudeness. Both speakers are knowledgeable and facilitator did not interrupt unnecessarily or show any obvious sides.
@spreadlovelove4636
@spreadlovelove4636 2 жыл бұрын
I really admired Tito Boy Abunda,Balanse sya at very professional s lahat ng kanyang ini interview plus he has Respect s mga taong iniinterview nia....💕
@iamkhai7111
@iamkhai7111 2 жыл бұрын
Ganito ang mga worth watching na interview.
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
Worth listening was only mr xiao
@fernandocruz4877
@fernandocruz4877 2 жыл бұрын
No, i think boy abunda has a sense thou xian chua acknowledged the historical distortion🤣✌
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandocruz4877 yes in a sense but i did not agree his final statement
@mindydipaolo6633
@mindydipaolo6633 2 жыл бұрын
This Rappler Talk is very interesting especially with two of my favorite personalities as guests. These two are both astute and very knowledgeable of history . It's indeed very interesting to hear the truth or half truth or tsismis from two very fair interviewees. I hope I get to listen and watch more vlogs like this.
@shunraico1037
@shunraico1037 2 жыл бұрын
the caption is interesting even though we know that RAPPLER is the least trusted media its a fact
@arinix3618
@arinix3618 2 жыл бұрын
@@shunraico1037 least trusted but still credible.
@williamguray1786
@williamguray1786 2 жыл бұрын
Boy is not a historian, but a gossip expert.
@jasvex
@jasvex 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly why he was there. He gives the perspective of tsismis and its possible relation to history. Even the historian agrees with some of Boy's point.
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasvex but he should have not said “ tsismis is part of history.”
@vhingotzkie1
@vhingotzkie1 Жыл бұрын
Saket?😂😂😂
@dakilangduca
@dakilangduca 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Rappler and the rest of the kakampinks will absorb what Boy Abunda have said - that we should widen our perspective and make the ML narrative more comprehensive instead of just looking at the one angle we were born to believe. Boy Abunda slayed the discussion. I wonder if how Pia or Rambo would handle this interview - baka nastroke. Charengg
@09293843236
@09293843236 2 жыл бұрын
True hahaha. Yan ang hindi biased sinasabi nya kung ano ang dapat baguhin sa kanilang sistema. Masyado silang naging arrogant kaya ayun talo manok nila hehehe. Anyways bala kau jan mga kakampwet mag dalamhati hanggang gusto nyo bwahahaha babush
@zenaidavillanueva8878
@zenaidavillanueva8878 2 жыл бұрын
ANG GANDA NAEEDUCATE TYO BOTH PARTIES THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WALA NMAN TYONG PINAAAWAYAN!TOPICS OR ISSUES THAT WE CAN LEARN AND BE CORRECTED AT SA ULI...PILIPINO TYONG LAHAT,TUNAY NA TUNAY!
@ronalynpiano2705
@ronalynpiano2705 2 жыл бұрын
Apologist should do the same then.
@dakilangduca
@dakilangduca 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronalynpiano2705 LOL. U just missed the whole point of conversation then.
@ronalynpiano2705
@ronalynpiano2705 2 жыл бұрын
@@dakilangduca namiss mo rin. Lol
@emirosedotimas3849
@emirosedotimas3849 2 жыл бұрын
That's right Tito Boy,more than 30years na walang nangyari sa Pilipinas kya my doubt sa isipan ng karamihan kung bkit noong panahon ng pamumuno niPFEM ay maganda ang buhay sagana sa pgkain napakaraming nagawang project pero noong panahon ni Cory bumagsak ang ekonomia walng magagandang project na nagawa shortage sa pagkain at kung anu ano pa! Kya ms magandang bumalik sa mga Marcos nlng
@ccarillo8757
@ccarillo8757 2 жыл бұрын
In 20 years ba namang umupo si FEM in power pag wala pa cyang nagawa ewan ko nalang. 20years vs 6 years sa mga sumunod na presidente. C'mon simple logic para magkumparahan ng mga ginawa. Bagsak ang ekonomiya natin as per record dahil sa laki ng foreign debts natin noon because of the graft and corruption cases of the Marcoses according to news and it is documented kaya nga may mga kaso sila hanggang ngaun dinidinig pa di ba? So I think kahit sing talino pa ni Rizal ang iluklok mo as President, aba e milagro kung mapaunlad nya kaagad ang Pilipinas! Kung may sumunod na presidente after Marcos na napaunlad kaagad ang Pilipinas then maybe isang cyang God! So don't ever compare what Marcos did when he was the president vs the other presidents after him. Konting common sense naman please.
@juneryanruedas3047
@juneryanruedas3047 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Professor Chua!
@allanlais7983
@allanlais7983 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Indeed, this is a very meaningful conversation! Sana ay mas marami pang ganitong pag-uusap sa pagitan ng mga katulad nating Pilipino/Pilipina. Maraming salamat Rappler, Professor Xiao at Sir Boy sa isang maliwanag at makabuluhang talakayan tungkol sa napapanahong mga isyu. Mabuhay po kayo! Ang pagpapala ng Katotohanan ang nawa'y manahan sa bawat isa sa atin.
@jasperjornales2458
@jasperjornales2458 2 жыл бұрын
History is always a fact / evidence-based science while tsismis/gossip is not fact/evidence-based, but once there are evidences that will support the story, then it is no longer a gossip... it is now part of the history.
@michaelraro6378
@michaelraro6378 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree - May history na pinalobong katotohanan gaya ng interview ni Maria Ressa na siabi niyang 11M daw ang nawalan ng trabaho nang ipinasara ang ABSCBN.
@DaveDrawsAnime
@DaveDrawsAnime 2 жыл бұрын
If the facts are biased, then history based on those facts becomes biased.
@edwinpamanian21
@edwinpamanian21 2 жыл бұрын
Hindi naman history yun. Interview naman yun. Sarili nyang kwento yon. Magkaiba ang interview sa history. Hay naku may masabi lang.
@charilynasis9911
@charilynasis9911 2 жыл бұрын
But not all history is a complete narrative, lalo na kung one side lang ang pinagkuhanan mo ng data. Parang sa investigation lng yan hindi lang kuwento ng biktima ang pakikinggan mo, pakikinggan mo din istorya ng kriminal then tiyaka ka magsasaliksik ng mga ebidensiya at mga saksi kung meron man.
@michaelraro6378
@michaelraro6378 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwinpamanian21 'The past' is completed and can never be changed, but 'history' is the ongoing discussion of trying to explain the past and is open to change and revision. 'History' relies upon what we know about 'the past', and this is dependent on the evidence available.
@micah9139
@micah9139 2 жыл бұрын
If it's tsismis, it's not history as history is based on facts of actual events. Tsismis of actual events is just that - tsismis or speculations, may be true or completely made-up so it's unreliable information
@pilipinay3512
@pilipinay3512 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just either history or tsismis
@christine6074
@christine6074 2 жыл бұрын
This is just an opinion
@loretagarduque2561
@loretagarduque2561 2 жыл бұрын
👁👁🧐
@melbertroluna2178
@melbertroluna2178 2 жыл бұрын
Maboboo mo Ang history sa pakikipagtaimisan sa source mo..nga history
@alexprussia6086
@alexprussia6086 2 жыл бұрын
So ayun na nga, ika nga ni Dan Brown “a widespread acceptance of an idea is not proof of its validity” dapat di lang si marites paniwalaan, mag fact check ka. Love this discussions, sana may tuloy2x tung mga ganito.
@isabellapineda139
@isabellapineda139 2 жыл бұрын
Why does boy abunda keep on trying to defend ella cruz being only a “kid” and not acknowledging the fact that every public figure should be accountable for his/her actions
@MJZondi
@MJZondi 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda is Marcos supporter.
@ang5279
@ang5279 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, boy abunda is a Marcos supporter
@isabellapineda139
@isabellapineda139 2 жыл бұрын
that’s a shame. I feel sorry for Kris Aquino who considered him as her bestfriend for too many years only for him to support the family that constantly inflicts pain and suffering upon her and her causes.
@jairehedselvillapando2110
@jairehedselvillapando2110 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda had a point, he’s being objective. And Xiao Chua (if you watch the whole video)na mismo ang may sabi na d nmn masyadong harmful yung sinabi ni Ella Cruz, kung hihimayin mo yung statement niya. Kakampink ako. We were wrong to judge to early
@isabellapineda139
@isabellapineda139 2 жыл бұрын
@@jairehedselvillapando2110 I agree. There is nothing wrong with her statement since history is simply verified chismis. The point though is, is her questionable intention behind releasing this comment since she is to star in a film that is known to promote disinformation and history revisionism. And to counter the backlash with showbiz drama and her being just a “kid” just doesn’t make sense. She’s an adult and should be called out and questioned for her actions and intentions, just like everybody else.
@rudynize4764
@rudynize4764 2 жыл бұрын
We have to understand that tsismis brought life in the study of history for example Apolinario Mabini being accused with syphilis that made paralyzed. Andres Bonifacio being known for his knowledge in several languages like French and Spanish etc and in reality carrying a revolver most of the time unlike being projected in our history textbooks who uses bolo. Cory Aquino as a Dictator when she called for a Revolutionary Government for a year when we already had an existing Congress, Supreme Court and LGUs. However she decided to cancel them and appointed officials while preparing for changing the Constitution.
@amyfajardo4685
@amyfajardo4685 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda is very intelligent, well-read on both past and current events, and very interesting.
@isabellapineda139
@isabellapineda139 2 жыл бұрын
well, he tries to be 😂
@jairehedselvillapando2110
@jairehedselvillapando2110 2 жыл бұрын
@@isabellapineda139 Kakampink ako pero look at you, you act like a bbm troll now
@margeorgeous
@margeorgeous 2 жыл бұрын
You all did a wonderful job here!
@reydelacruz8082
@reydelacruz8082 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda is more credible than the historian! I salute you Mr. Abunda!!!
@lol-uj4ni
@lol-uj4ni 2 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@micheledwardmaravilla591
@micheledwardmaravilla591 17 күн бұрын
Credible Tito Boy! Matalinong tao at disente yan
@yoshikopastor5449
@yoshikopastor5449 2 жыл бұрын
History is never like chismiss. History is based on facts. Kaya nga nsging kasaysayan.Chimiss is like making stories .
@alainalittle9965
@alainalittle9965 2 жыл бұрын
Boy... thank you. As John Green said: we study history to understand our past and make decisions for our future because WE all make history. The real question that should have been asked is: has our history been tsismis? Ang gusto ko Kay kuya boy ay ang kanyang objectivity. Despite na kaibigan Niya si Kris he managed to conduct a decent interview to all of the candidates especially Marcos. Si Boy Abunda ay may malawak na pagunawa sa problema ng ating paglahad ng history. Ayoko Kay professor Ciao kasi may pagka elitista Kung makaasta. Maraming nanahimik na mananakiksik tungkol sa world war 2 na hindi pinaboran ng mga preliminary universities natin dahil macocontest ang pride ng mga tenured historians natin. Isang example na diyan ang pagsaliksik ng Isang babaeng researcher sa mga totoong prayoridad ng USA sa paglupig ng pagsakop ng mga hapon sa Pinas. Palpak ang misyon ng America dahil unang una 2 ang war fronts ng USA noon. Priority nila ang Europe. Pangalawa ay pinadala si McArthur na Isang general na promote dahil sa family connections lang. itinago at nagsinungaling ang mga Amerikano sa firepower na kaya nilang iabot sa atin. Si McArthur underestimate Niya mga hapon, sinalaula ang 10 taong paghahanda laban sa hapon at nung andiyan na mga hapon... anak ng tokwa tumakbo sa Australia, iniwan ang buong fleet at ang kanyang second in command ang sumama sa ating mga kawal sa death March... 😢 Hindi ito sinaad sa ating mga textbooks. May rebulto pa si MacArthur Jan sa Koregidor. So Tama yung bata. Yung tsismis na hero si MacArthur... Naging history.
@juneryanruedas3047
@juneryanruedas3047 2 жыл бұрын
Ilaban Ang kasaysayan Professor Chua!
@andystonenlovewithyou4750
@andystonenlovewithyou4750 2 жыл бұрын
Salute Mr Boy Abunda for an intelligently fair discussion. Mr Xiao Chua I suggest some of your sources should be verified due to credibility reasons for you not to be fact checked by critical netizens.
@ERamos-lm3uq
@ERamos-lm3uq 2 жыл бұрын
Boy is apologist.
@christine6074
@christine6074 2 жыл бұрын
Wala kang pinag aralan
@churchilltrumata7708
@churchilltrumata7708 2 жыл бұрын
Apologist agad pag di fit sa gusto mong narrative.
@noelynlimosinero9886
@noelynlimosinero9886 2 жыл бұрын
Si Sir Boy po is Marcos Loyalist po.
@fernandocruz4877
@fernandocruz4877 2 жыл бұрын
Kc nabuhay c boy nung pnahon ni marcos. Living witness sya s panahon n un. C xiao uhugin p yn nung pnahon ni marcos. C boy rational yn kc nbuhay sya sa pareho pnahon ni marcos at aquino. Kung ngawa lng mgnda aquino at umunlad ang bayan, bk skli p kso ndi lalo lumala at nsalaula bayan. brain washer mga dilawan!
@christine6074
@christine6074 2 жыл бұрын
Di naman porket loyalit makitid na utak. May tama naman kasi sya
@ramonpabillon895
@ramonpabillon895 2 жыл бұрын
I only can tell my story during the Marcos era. If some experienced hell during that time, that's their story. We need to tell both sides, the good and bad. It;s a ying & yang.
@isamarievaller8979
@isamarievaller8979 2 жыл бұрын
Tama po kayo jan..😃
@baconbriefs
@baconbriefs 2 жыл бұрын
Question is...what were you doing then? Have you experienced repression when you took action/redress against it? If you did and never gone to jail, then you were the lucky ones. 😌
@baconbriefs
@baconbriefs 2 жыл бұрын
Question is...what were you doing then? Have you experienced repression when you took action/redress against it? If you did and never gone to jail, then you were the lucky ones. 😌
@Zzzz-sh8wf
@Zzzz-sh8wf 2 жыл бұрын
Love it nung may shade si prof. Chua nung tinuro niya si boy at sarili niya then "chismis at history ba ito" HAHAHAHA
@noypijr.1028
@noypijr.1028 2 жыл бұрын
Simula palang natatawa nako sa magandang usapan at paglilinaw ng dalawang salita...
@karenquismundo-fuhrmann7805
@karenquismundo-fuhrmann7805 2 жыл бұрын
At last Rappler is able to produce an open round table discussion one can listen to...
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
I salute you mr xiao. I am disappointed eith what boy said in his final statement that tsismis is part of hidtory.
@fernandocruz4877
@fernandocruz4877 2 жыл бұрын
Tanong mo ke Lourde, tsimis nun history ngayun😂🤣
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandocruz4877 sino c lourde,
@fernandocruz4877
@fernandocruz4877 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnapacible6352 c lourd de vera. My tv series sa tv5, un ang title.
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandocruz4877 no need, d nmn sya historian, troll un
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
Further if tsismis is part of history then it is very unfsir to all historians who are presenting us with facts. Pinghirapan nila yun. If there is some addtl info later on to revise it then it is fine but we never say that is tsismis.
@awesomegamer2435
@awesomegamer2435 2 жыл бұрын
Buti nman na educate mo ang nagtatanong and watching as well. Very well explained. Hindi nka arangkada ang nagtatanong.
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
Pngbigyn lng c boy mgtanong for courtesy sake in fairness to the host. Boy should have not done that. It was not his shoe
@fernandocruz4877
@fernandocruz4877 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnapacible6352 naisahan cla ni boy pra ndi nila mamanipulate ang tanong to bring us to being brainwash again. Kung ndi tnanong ni boy un ttanungin ng host un. Novato ung host!😆😅😂😍
@ShirleyAPadua
@ShirleyAPadua 2 жыл бұрын
History should be analyzed. History should be discussed through evidences. Kudos to Prof. Xiao. History should be discussed the way Prof Xiao does.
@rommelfrias7857
@rommelfrias7857 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained about TSISMIS tito Boy..
@yumideb
@yumideb 2 жыл бұрын
Nice discussion from two learned guests. Kudos to the host for handling it well.
@JulesGuiang
@JulesGuiang 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@gladysnavarro881
@gladysnavarro881 2 жыл бұрын
Resource person si Boy. His not the host. But he is dirrcting the discusion
@marvelstark3797
@marvelstark3797 2 жыл бұрын
boy abunda as always is playing it safe for his career. takot ma bash at atakehin ng mga trolls. 😂😂 his last statement is a complete non sense to the last question if history is chismis. kaya nga chismis noon kasaysayan ngayon kasi proven na for several years with facts. siya na mismo ang nagsabi. 😂😂😂 of course xiao is correct that history is completely not a chismis
@MJZondi
@MJZondi 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda is Marcos supporter.
@marvelstark3797
@marvelstark3797 2 жыл бұрын
@M.J. Zondi well that explains. even he was trying to distort the reality in the name of stupidity. still he was afraid from the bashing.
@ghiberti
@ghiberti 2 жыл бұрын
I love the spirited discussion. Bright are Prof. Xiao and Tito Boy. Walang nagmura. Walang nagbastusan. Masayang talakayan lang.
@philmaharlikajr.8862
@philmaharlikajr.8862 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the guests…I can see they tried their best to be clear with their stand on this particular issue…and their willingness to bring the discouse to a higher level…times are changing…sana we can have a better understanding and a more objective assessments in the events in our history basta magkaroon ng open mind and lahat…
@eraserattsokfev
@eraserattsokfev 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda is auditioning for a post in this administration. He clearly is a Marcos apologist.
@josesantos-qo9vf
@josesantos-qo9vf 2 жыл бұрын
sana me tv program na tulad nito. solid informative.
@corazonuy4391
@corazonuy4391 2 жыл бұрын
Fyi Mr. Boy abunda talk more sense & well explained. 👍👍👍
@laurencedelacruz9575
@laurencedelacruz9575 2 жыл бұрын
Best content of the year! Ang dami ko natutunan galing sa reliable sources. Matalino at tapat ang talakayan pati yun iba't ibang klase ng Chismis nalaman natin. Thank you Rappler for this video. More content like this please.
@jazzyp5377
@jazzyp5377 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda cannot hide his being a Marcos loyalist
@churchilltrumata7708
@churchilltrumata7708 2 жыл бұрын
Totoo naman din ang sinasabi nya lmao
@kaizokuibench7355
@kaizokuibench7355 2 жыл бұрын
Xiao cannot hide his being a Anti marcos. patas lng..
@ang5279
@ang5279 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he is a Marcos supporter but totoo sinasabi niya
@grandfunk1629
@grandfunk1629 Жыл бұрын
Yess! Emotional vote - no need for rhyme nor reason. This is what will give our country glory.
@kwentongcar-car6535
@kwentongcar-car6535 2 жыл бұрын
So excited when I saw Prof Xiao so I immediately watch this vid. But hearing the thoughts of Sir Boy is kind of refreshing. I don't know why there are other people discrediting him. He may be associated to chismis pero kung iisipin, he has been a very good example of a data gatherer (in research) kung isinulat niya ang mga interview nya it would have been a qualitative research. Maybe instead of denying it, we should take a closer look at it. Study it and be as objective as possible. Maybe a part of an undisclosed history will be revealed (just my opinion). I also like the professionalism of the moderator. There should be more vids like this❤️
@jocelyndomke8566
@jocelyndomke8566 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting ..Nawa’y magkaron Pa ng mga ganitong pag uusap lalo na sa histories 🥹😇😊
@luzmindafabay2565
@luzmindafabay2565 2 жыл бұрын
This was so good
@ElizabethAguilar-ye2wo
@ElizabethAguilar-ye2wo 2 жыл бұрын
I was present in Edsa first day palang coz I have a friend who was member of RAM and the real reason was nit to overthrow Marcos but to protect the RAM members from being bomb and never realized that Marcos would be overthrown because of that. The culprit is Cardinal Sin who was behind Cory but Edsa was a disappointment because Edsa resulted to an unstable republic.
@AmadoMagbanuaIV
@AmadoMagbanuaIV Жыл бұрын
For an hour-long of discussion, I thoroughly understand the importance of credibility when gathering sources. It is also encouraged us as a nation, to work together to reveal what is the truth behind events and always consider scrutinizing the sources before claiming that it happens.
@jennyrose225
@jennyrose225 2 жыл бұрын
ang galing ni boy abunda, mas humanga ako sa kanya kaysa kay Xiao, ang galing magpaliwanag 😄 fan na ako, i love boy abunda
@marielmelquiades7827
@marielmelquiades7827 2 жыл бұрын
Boy abunda is tagged as king of talk. Malamang magaling sya magsalita. Pero no wag mo syang ikumpara kay prof xiao na inaral ang kasaysayan.
@jennyrose225
@jennyrose225 2 жыл бұрын
@@marielmelquiades7827 mas magaling si Boy Abunda. Period. Sa kanya ako naliwanagan. Kung Prof ko siya sa college, malamang fav. teacher ko siya at malaki grades ko ❤️
@jinkyamor2930
@jinkyamor2930 2 жыл бұрын
What measure can one say, that the Historians really writes the facts? I believe whoever writes history cannot absolutely know all side of the story, especially if he does not consult one particular character in the story.
@adlrvet5313
@adlrvet5313 2 жыл бұрын
Will this be a regular thing it’s nice to listen to
@petercabrales9064
@petercabrales9064 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe in tsismis, and try not to participate in it. I go for history as long as there is source cited, and there is corroboration with other historians who present primary sources. I use reference of sources for me to validate any historical claim. If you have no references, the narratives become doubted or politically and religiously motivated. History is the narration of truth which when sought independently will lead to Unity and Peace.
@potassium6810
@potassium6810 2 жыл бұрын
Engkk
@yetztv18
@yetztv18 2 жыл бұрын
pag na chismiss asawa mo na may kabet di ka maniniwala? ok dapat meron kang evidence o diba...
@francesescobin7964
@francesescobin7964 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Tito Boy Abunda. Very smart and intelligent conversation.
@merliemarquez55
@merliemarquez55 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Abunda you are a guest, not a moderator but you talk to much! Give the moderator and the historian writer the equal chance to talk, sorry but I found Boy to be very talkative.
@ecegary
@ecegary 2 жыл бұрын
Finally I can say the most balanced content from Rappler. We can see the contradiction on both ends but delivered in a very intelligent and professional manner. Kung marami pa kayong mga ganito sana, mas exciting. Kudos to Rappler for this one! 👏👏
@rogerfranco1237
@rogerfranco1237 2 жыл бұрын
galing ni boy abunda magpaliwanag. nakakabilib.
@lilasimon1028
@lilasimon1028 17 күн бұрын
sana magkaron ng part 2 ito. this is my 2nd time to watch this.
@acq8097
@acq8097 2 жыл бұрын
On point! Very informative! 👏👏
@ferdiram
@ferdiram 2 жыл бұрын
I love the show - Sir host, review mo itong show na ito, you certainly can propel your IS to the next level.
@JulesGuiang
@JulesGuiang 2 жыл бұрын
Gotcha!
@IronWill91
@IronWill91 2 жыл бұрын
So impressed of tito Boy.... Accepted such humble setting despite his status in life... 👏👏👏
@Johnapacible6352
@Johnapacible6352 2 жыл бұрын
In the first place he should not be guested in this discusdion. He foesnt know what hes tslking.
@donbel1991
@donbel1991 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to open this discussions. Now I know they are trying to use trolls, media influencer and media propagandist to make the history like tsismis lang.
@pinknest2001
@pinknest2001 2 жыл бұрын
i used to like boy abunda but it looked like he was trying too hard -- killed interesting topics that started to encrouch on the marcos image he is clearly trying his best to polish
@samsonescalarga301
@samsonescalarga301 2 жыл бұрын
what brilliant talk..brained and experienced when collided..always clarifies the issues👍👏👏
@viviandiaz5975
@viviandiaz5975 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right sir Abunda
@lol-uj4ni
@lol-uj4ni 2 жыл бұрын
Agree!!!!
@malupetescobar5273
@malupetescobar5273 2 жыл бұрын
Ang kasaysayan talaga ay my saysay. Ganda pakinggan
@joemeverano4028
@joemeverano4028 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this. Ella Cruz has a point. There is some tsismis in our history thanks for enlightening us
@galileogervacio41
@galileogervacio41 2 жыл бұрын
salamat po Prof. Chua, Mabuhay ang mga Historiador
@baconbriefs
@baconbriefs 2 жыл бұрын
...too many Boy in the discussion...he's drowning out the EXPERTS in the room...
@EdogideonDaria
@EdogideonDaria 2 жыл бұрын
Pls have it on podcast
@amaliareyes6782
@amaliareyes6782 2 жыл бұрын
OMG never akong makinig ng discussion, Soo amazing both of you 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 thanks 🙏🏽 ❤️
@yolandakobayashi7038
@yolandakobayashi7038 2 жыл бұрын
Mas credible ang rappler so smart
@nievespena8246
@nievespena8246 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos kay xiao and boy abunda sarap makinig sa mga taong matalino na tulad ninyo
@BlackPanther-jx8vv
@BlackPanther-jx8vv 2 жыл бұрын
A very good conversation. It tickled my brain.
@pinaytravelsinuk5852
@pinaytravelsinuk5852 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Lalo na yung portion na Tito Boy was asking Prof Hsaio on which is tsismis or not. Sana Tito Boy you’ll have a talk show like this!
@redrosa8715
@redrosa8715 2 жыл бұрын
Xiao Chua. Charleston Chua 😊
@pinaytravelsinuk5852
@pinaytravelsinuk5852 2 жыл бұрын
@@redrosa8715 hahaha thanks! I dont know where I got Hsiao hahaha 😂😂😂
@carmennoellao.panlilio3066
@carmennoellao.panlilio3066 2 жыл бұрын
I thinks it's kinda awkward lalo na sa host or facilitator. Boy Abunda keeps on interrupting and almost looks it's his own show. Agree naman na it is very educational ung portion nila na fact or tsismis. Just an opinion.
@emespaulo2906
@emespaulo2906 2 жыл бұрын
@@carmennoellao.panlilio3066 tama po
@mgclef
@mgclef 2 жыл бұрын
@@carmennoellao.panlilio3066 mahilig talaga mag.interrupt yan si Boy.
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