A Look at Some Strange Dice - Part 2

Part 1 - • A Look at Some Strange...
A look at 3,4,13,15,16,22,24,48,120 sided dice (and Fudge dice)
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[@RMS_Gigantic]

My d120 actually arrived just today! When you look at the mathematics that went into distributing the numbers, it's a rather impressive feat of a die.

[@TheFilipFonky]

What games even use a d120?

[@ihateeverythingparodyplus5024]

Believe it or not there's also a d-400. It's basically a golf ball.

[@alfredsartwell5659]

@@ihateeverythingparodyplus5024 where would you find the d400? Is there a link showing it?

[@IONATVS]

yes, though like the d100 and the odd-numbered dice shown, the d400 is not a "true" die (ie a uniform polyhedron, which means all sides are congruent and meet at vertices with only one type of angle around them), as the d48, d60, and d120 are the largest of that kind which physically work in 3D space, with the d48 exhausting the entirety of the cubic symmetry group the d6 and d8 are part of and the d120 exhausting the symmetry group the d4, d12, and d20 are part of. You can make a fair die with any number of sides either by rotational symmetry like the d10, d3, and d50 he showed or by an analytical method (take a sphere, place flat circular faces on it and then run a ton of simulations to adjust the positions until it is as close to fair as you can get, then sometimes they adjust further to make it look like a polyhedron like most the lower-number odd dice), but a d120 is the largest die that looks and acts like the traditional platonic solids.

[@IONATVS]

@@citrusbutter7718 it’s definitely harder to read with that many sides, and takes longer to settle because of how round it is, but like with most other uniform polyhedral dice (the d4 being the main exception), on a d120 every face has an other face parallel to it on the opposite side, and thus should always have exactly one side facing up & flat when it stops on a flat surface, and that side is marked with the number you rolled. Similar for “golf ball” dice with an even number of divots it can stop on, 1 divot will be flatter than the others and it has the number in it.

[@adonisparts1343]

A coin flip is technically a 2 sided dice roll

[@JetFuelSE]

No it's a 3 sided dice (just heavily weighed towards two of the options)

[@KurtyHorty]

Yeah its a 3 sided dice because of the edge

[@Pajanimations]

but it more than that because of the ridges

[@JetFuelSE]

@@Pajanimations Not all coins have ridges.

[@KurtyHorty]

You can try to balance a coin on the edge.

[@coldhotpocket8226]

The D120 reminds me of the infinity-die from Gravity Falls.

[@night.2257]

Me too lol

[@rubyrhino1130]

gravity falls is cringe

[@MegaEricPham]

What I love about the original D4 is that I *actually* use them as cattletrops.

[@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven]

I like how the D13 have it so the 7 side can never be a outcome. ( truly making it a "unlucky dice") And would be great for rolling random curses or afflictions.

[@menghao737]

No, you misunderstood, I rewatched it to make sure,, it can't land on the opposite of seven because the seven is on a point. You can land a seven, because it's opposite side is flat, and because it can never land seven down they left that spot blank, but you can definitely land a seven for your outcome.

[@thatonelordnerd9693]

13:36 The periodic table of the dice!

[@Chris_winthers]

As a d&d player, this is the best video i have ever seen

[@knate44]

As an avid Fudge/Fate player, you generally roll 4 fudge dice per roll, and then add, or subtract the dice face from normal. sometimes I like to get spicy in D&D and let the fudge dice decide if I am going to give the players and easier or harder random encounter, either by CR, or randomly determining if a few of the enemies will flee, or if reinforcements arrive, and if so how many.

[@joshuadixon4090]

I made D3's one day after eating overcooked rice, each side is an oval shape with pointed ends and bent in to meet the points. I just kinda squished some clay between my fingers until it looked good and smoothed it over

[@sagesarrazine6270]

What a bold open

[@brentpollock7638]

Yes, the d20+ can look similar, so I tried to colour-code them.

[@loganfrandrup6590]

You actually can use the + and - dice (Fudge Dice) in the Fate Game sytem. I remeber those quite fondly actually.

[@Barleh]

that truncated d4 is genius

[@viktor4840]

7:54 One can argue that only platonic dice are true dice, so even d10 is discarded.

[@swampwiz]

"Fair dice" are convex isohedra. An isohedron is a polyheron in which each face can be placed on a plane and the collectively, the other faces will occupy the same places in space relative to that plane; this property is face-transitiveness.

[@dididiihas]

Yup, those other unfair dice were polyhedra, being close three dimensional shapes where every side is a polygon, but the polygons were not congruent, making them not isohedral. Another mistake that some people make is that only the platonic solids are fair dice, which Is not true, the faces don't need to be regular, and there can be a different amount of faces that meet at a vertex. For example, a triangular bipyramid with congruent faces is a fair d6, even though three faces meet at the apexes, but 4 faces meet at the vertices at the shared base of the pyramids.

[@didu173]

The binding of isaac lore

[@zredwarrior2299]

When trying to find a max roll on a die like that d48, it's always exactly opposite of the 1. If not, the die is made improperly.

[@pocarski]

This only makes sense if you don't know the max roll and also don't want to count the sides, otherwise you're gonna spend just as much time trying to find the 1

[@arikwolf3777]

@@pocarski Except the 1 is one of the 9 single digits which stands out from the two digits numbers.

[@momothemagecat]

4:40 "Let's see if we can find the 48" Uhhhhh, it's right there

[@ShadowWolfTJC]

I see you got yourself a long die for your d3 needs. Those seem uniquely useful for when you need some small-numbered odd-sided dice, such as a d3, d5, d7, d9, d11, or d13, for your tabletop gaming needs. I also see that you got yourself a d120, which answered an old question that I had in an earlier video. I've yet to see any barrel dice, which I'd imagine would've been useful alternatives towards using trapezohedron-shaped dice for when you'd need, say, a d10, d14, d16, or d18.

[@ThePowerchimp]

Dude - great expose on dice, but please find the manual focus on your camera!

[@DragonCompany1]

The camera used here has none, unfortunately.

[@mraxolotl2713]

i thought it would be impossible to have odd number dice

[@maryann9403]

Idk why but i find dice relaxing

[@DD-rv2qe]

A hendecagonal bipyramid is a perfect 22 sided dice

[@judimcrae1099]

the 707 upside down looked like it said "LOL".

[@hulick6910]

Spindown dice, a variation of d20 used in D&D

[@awaytoanywhere699]

you can make a model of the Solar System using dice only. size accurate... (almost) 😀

[@knowone3031]

Lol o gsus..

[@sholland42]

Where was this when I was playing DND back in the 80s?

[@IKostman]

Why couldn’t you do the D1??? |:(

[@spliffi869]

cool ty for showing them off. very helpful

[@ildar.ishalin.chelovek]

Big dices have to be rolled in a bowl probably 😂

[@tramngoc7536]

I have a fudge dice at home

[@LegitMan335]

3 sided dice ?

[@socktheakbashdogauttpathdt3906]

How can i buy it?

[@Moralatheist101]

Why?

[@KristofferEk]

the "fudge" dice basically adds or detrackts one skill modifier which works when using a system like Fatecore or you have a spell or something that requiers a specific skill number for you to ad but it's random. basically it's the only set of dice if you use six that you can roll a natural negative six with or a nat 0.

[@0303wong]

this needs a part 3

[@mderooij7851]

Do You Have A D100* Dice? *A 100 Sided Dice

[@boyahg1305]

lol I have two sets of dice, the one that came with the dnd 5e strter kit, and a set my mom bought me for my birthday

[@GordieGii]

The triangles are all the same shape and size, although half are the mirror image of the other half. But if it's a true die then numbers opposite each other should add up to 121.

[@13thBear]

What's the point of these goofy sided dice and what games require goofy sided dice? Well, besides some degree of goofy novelty for goofy people?

[@s.korgaard]

Are those acrylics?

[@lg_unofficial]

My dice d3-d100 just arrive on june.So i shop on june

[@permeus2nd]

I am the only person I have ever heard of that owns a 100 sided dice so this is interesting.

[@cjwolf5901]

A 100 sided die is pretty usefull. I use them too for some selfmade P&P's.

[@ChuckleNuts5155]

The d24 looks exactly like a garnet crystal

[@KoreyThatcher]

What do you mean by "true dice"?

[@380illion-peron]

I know this is 1 year old, but it means it's a solid shape made of little edges.

[@Paul118GF]

Turn off the damn autofocus

[@pythonnukappa8559]

Why 2 black and one blue and one ivory

[@DragonCompany1]

Those were the only colors of the dice available to me at the time, I try to be consistent, but it's not always possible.

[@pranavdonepudi2297]

Nobody: Guy who is studying probability chapter

[@bergedorf6]

Nice dice

[@Frutilla1292]

Bro the d1 and d2

[@jimmyk4091]

you need a d2/3/4 multi-dice ;-)

[@cmyk8964]

I believe that’s called a D12.

[@NamTheDawg203]

nice!

[@TheMasterChief777777]

the d120 is not a true dice, not every vertex touches the same number of sides Edit: It's not "all symmetrical"

[@zeek6728]

I have a d24 ,d30, and d60

[@beneyal9264]

why 13, 15 and 22 sided are not true dice?

[@DragonCompany1]

Theoretically, a "true" die is one that has identical faces with no gaps in between them (the d120 being the largest possible configuration). So any die where the faces aren't the same, or where they've been cut from a sphere don't qualify, so every odd sided die is technically not a "true die" (as are a few other configurations). Of course, it is still possible for them to have the function of dice, landing on a given number with equal probability if thrown randomly.

[@paulfoss5385]

A true die must have the property where any set of rigid transformations rotations, translations (up/down, left/right, forward/backward) that moves one face to another must also do the same for every face. And there must be a set of rigid transforms for moving any face to any other face. These are the relevant transformations for dice because they are the only ones that occur when a die is thrown. You can see on the picture at 13:00 images of two d6s and two d12s that are all warped, they are true dice because every face is the same and oriented the same way with respect to each other. They just lack irrelevant symmetries. While you can weight the d13, d15, and d22 to be fair for a particular set of rolling conditions you could never weight them to be fair under all rolling conditions. There are only so many symmetries that can be made to work in three dimensions. Although technically any even number die can be made fair if they are trapezohedrons like the d10, but in practice you just end up with nearly unworkable shapes like the d50. Trapezohedrons are duals to antiprisms so they are basically three dimensional space stealing infinite regularity from two dimensions. The tabletop, itself being two dimensional, becomes angry when struck with these dice and force them to roll longer.

[@Edward-2160-]

No matter how many sides has a dice u unfortunately pick 1

[@switchblade6552]

#d36 gravity falls

[@ieatpaperclipsforbreakfast]

It was a d38

[@onism3053]

Which one is the ball with the beans Send me link to where you got it pls

[@dicehiphop7857]

I found myself in this video :o

[@freemanedwards5663]

Whoa

[@ajarofolives]

We made a new d&d dice game you can play!! Check it out! Show off your dice😜

[@funtimewithabraham5107]

Wow

[@upsoun]

sweet video

[@DragonCompany1]

Thank you!

[@telotawa]

the 13, 15, 22, can't be perfectly fair ever because they're not isohedral couldn't tell on the 16 but it looked like it wasnt what you're trying to say at 8:03 isn't a polyhedron, but an isohedral figure look up isohedral figures on wikipedia for the full list of possible fair dice

[@scaryshit24]

I've seen 6 sided dice with a spherical shape. Maybe you can check that out.

[@DragonCompany1]

I have actually ended up with a few of those in my collection since this video's creation. If I end up doing another one, I'll have to bring them out!

[@hienlethi2774]

D1-D120❤

[@FuelFire]

Anyone here from the game Luck be a Landlord to see if a three-sided die or five-sided die is possible?

[@swampwiz]

The 13, 15 & 22 are not true dice.

[@plbster]

do you have like a giant dice collection?

[@DragonCompany1]

I wouldn't say "giant", but I do have many more dice than any reasonable person would.

[@plbster]

do you know how many or... is there really just that many

[@DragonCompany1]

I haven't kept track of how many exactly, my reckoning would be a couple to three hundred or thereabouts; plus maybe a hundred more if you count the ones that are tied to specific games and thus always in the game boxes.

[@plbster]

wow...

[@bloodfest8510]

Why do people need so many different number dice

[@DragonCompany1]

They don't, but the dice are good fun. Some games require certain types of dice but I've gone far beyond that because I just enjoy it.

[@bloodfest8510]

Huh, your not wrong about dice being fun, but some are just confusing 😂

[@Coca23cola61year]

2021

[@Wilhuf1]

Triple d4s. A d12 with 1-4 appearing 3 times. Generates 1-4. Rolls well. No caltrops. Double d6. A d12 with 1-6 appearing twice. Generates 1-6. Rolls well. No flat-faced rolls. You’re welcome.

[@macneilsketchley3695]

I pity a man who buys fudge

[@Momo-xs8mo]

The dice that you said was a d10 was actually a d8 Just d&d things

[@Coca23cola61year]

biber crazy me me me ….ggg

[@bobbyrosales22]

Fate Dice

[@LordGingerBerry]

Want a d2? Flip a coin.

[@marclytle644]

I hav two D50s got them as a joke. Once I am playing a game and the GM told me to roll a D100, I looked at the die, and said fuck that it looks like a damned golf ball, rolled my percentile dice. There, much easyer to roll and looks better.He agreed. Never saw that stupid D100 again. Took a look at my dice, those actually are D30, not D50s. Now I am sad. I never used them after I bought them s never really thought about it.

[@rifanamithlaj2757]

Hhh

[@BetterBlue]

no need of flat spot. that's a mistake. or being lasy, rushing to market. ye ninnies. Roll the dam things! Or don't you want time-travel for real! No, ye want fantasy. Believing in nothing.

[@mynameluvsdragonscancelled6759]

I’m the 168th person to like

[@lanthren]

I lost interest of the dice shortly after the video started. I can't stop looking at the nails...

[@helloiamenergyman]

I can't unsee It now

[@sergiomdp2002]

A good solution for the "not stop rolling dices" are a good droping box with borders ;)

[@mderooij7851]

I Like The D20 Dice.

[@k.pacificnw02134]

Couldn't watch due to unappealing long fingernails. Especially on a man.

[@saltykrug]

Yeah dude needs to cut those grody $50 cocaine nails.

[@k.pacificnw02134]

@@saltykrug Right? But then again, I personally hate long nails even on women. I'm a chick and I keep mine short. Long nails to me say 'I don't do many physical things.' Strong man hands with short nails are hot af. Okay, I'm typing a bunch of stuff on KZbin comments what have I become.

[@liquidwater1133]

123

[@Air-vp1qt]

Is it possible to buy a 400 sided die or is there a 3d model that can be printed?