Rare Hybrid Snapping Turtle Planted Paludarium (Only 50 in the World)

In this week's video, we add a one-of-kind hybrid snapping turtle to the animal room! This is not something I intended for at all, but the opportunity presented itself and I took it.
Last month we toured the Moorecroft Conservation Foundation ( • Finally Getting Turtle... ) and saw a tone of incredible turtles. While there, I talked about how I would be getting some of the turtles we saw. I'm still doing that, but something else happened.
As Charley showed up around, we saw a group of snapping turtles. These weren't your ordinary snappers, though. He explained that they were Common Snapper and Alligator Snapper Hybrids, which came from the late Fred Grunwald. It wasn't thought that they could interbreed, but one day, Fred's turtles did exactly that. Apparently there's likely less than 50 in the entire world!
I didn't intent on getting one of these turtles, but Charley said that they needed homes. I know that I'm in a unique position where I can provide for this animal into adulthood, so I decided to take the opportunity. In this video, I show you how I designed a grow-out paludarium for it. Enjoy and let me know what you think in the comments!
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00:00 Turtle Unboxing
00:25 My New Turtle
00:55 Only 50 in the World?
02:08 Deciding on an Tank
02:29 Enclosure Modifications
02:54 DIY Reptile Screens
03:27 Substrate Selection
04:30 Hardscaping the Setup
05:22 Selecting the Plants
06:57 Plant Preparation
07:24 Adding the Plants
08:25 Filtration
09:10 Adding the Water
09:26 Finished Design
10:29 Turtle Explores Paludarium
11:07 Final Thoughts
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[@SerpaDesign]

I'm so excited about this! I didn't anticipate getting a snapper ever again, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity. This is a true legacy animal that's extremely rare. It's only a baby now, but it will most likely get around the size of a common snapping turtle. That said, no one knows for sure how big they can grow, so only time will tell. Let me know what you think about it and what would you name it? Does Cookie sound good to you or not? Enjoy the video and sorry for the late upload. 💚

[@jorgemeza6148]

I love your videos so much I want to get a lizard or a frog but my parents said no but I will keep trying

[@true3211]

how about crackle? because of snap and crackle candy bars.

[@Mccormick2023]

Cookie is a good name

[@Drakijy]

Cookie is a fitting name, however, since yours is a snapping turtle you could name her after a type of cookie and call her Ginger. Short for Ginger Snaps. Just wanted to put that out there.

[@gc6888]

Your creativity is off the charts

[@LilyAsali]

Tanner, I know most folks have already praised both the turtle and the setup - but I want to compliment the video itself. You do a great job of including visuals, like pouring the substrate out of your hands while discussing them. These moments only pass for a few seconds, but they enrich the video in subtle ways. I know all of those shots take time/thought/effort. Great job, keep up the awesome work.

[@beverlyjensen443]

Funny, I'm not a videgrapher but I thought exactly the same thing!

[@emeraldeyez2282]

Couldn't agree more!

[@oscarma15]

You don't necessarily notice these subtle shots, but they definitely add to the immersion

[@Jartopia]

The fact you own an animal when there is less than 50 of them in existence is so cool!

[@Jartopia]

I actually wonder if they'll be infertile or not.

[@-ari-arts-4300]

@@Jartopia hybrids usually aren’t. Like how ligers and mules aren’t fertile at all. Would be cool tho

[@dominoot2652]

a collab between you two would be really cool!

[@FreedomAnderson]

@@-ari-arts-4300 - Ligers have been proven to be fertile on occasion. There are even second generation offspring known as “Liligers”.

[@paulann5257]

It's not though.

[@KkCreatures]

Congrats on the new snapper!! She couldn’t have been given a better home. Your setups are works of art, but they are also incredible homes for your pets! Great video as always!!

[@tagdayley]

like literally COULDNT HAVE BEEN GIVEN A BETTER HOME

[@AirWarrior97395]

Yooo its kk creatures

[@vanacupanther]

Could have been in the wild

[@AirWarrior97395]

@@vanacupanther it can't be in the wild. Especially how it's a hybrid. Think about it how wolf's survive perfectly out in the woods but dogs probably wouldn't

[@jacksonwilliams5399]

I greatly admire the effort you put into a home that’s supposed to be temporary, you go above and beyond with every animal you keep and it inspires me in many of my reptile/ amphibian keeping endeavors.

[@Grace-er9ep]

This is such an important point. Tanner truly goes above and beyond the basic standard of care and I hope one day the way he cares for his animals and his appreciation for their environments becomes the new standard for care amongst private but especially public keepers

[@theironemald8779]

Honestly. I admire him so much and wish to be like him as a man and as an animal keeper

[@princeapoopoo5787]

The fact that he goes above and beyond for animals like snails and isopods is pretty neat too. Every animal, both big and small get cosy homes!

[@LKonstantina915]

true but he can also repurpose it for when the turtle grows

[@cristiaolson7327]

What a beautiful setup for an adorable baby turtle to grow out in. Little Cookie is going to be a big turtle soon enough, so enjoy these precious months when she's tiny! Also, keep it Cookie. Your wife has named it wisely. When it's a 90lb monster turtle, the name will be awesomely unexpected.

[@breannamarshall191]

Agreed. Cookie is such a cute name for this turtle, especially as she grows! Definitely keep it

[@jiliciar.1423]

AGREED!

[@LincolnTank-StillOnTheSprue]

Your attention to all the details both aesthetically and in terms of husbandry does you huge credit. We can all see how much love you have for the animals you keep

[@TerryMcGearyScotland]

You are a mine of information on every aspect. It's great to listen to you and watch your projects. Had a turtle once upon a time. Have a super Sunday. :-) Regards from sunny Scotland.

[@FishyTomato-]

when he said he missed his snapping turtle while holding that alligator/common snapper mix I knew he would get one again

[@SerpaDesign]

That was before I even knew I'd get one too. We talked about it after the fact.

[@FishyTomato-]

@@SerpaDesign how hard are they to take care of... I saw a common snapping turtle in a pond close to my house a few days ago and have been thinking about getting my own.

[@THandP_org]

@@SerpaDesign it was meant to be. Would love to see a collab between you and Cory, Tanner. Maybe a build for his gorgeous turtle? Both of you are very complimentary, as your dedication to putting the needs of the animals first comes through in every comment and every video. I guess his biggest regret for AquaShella FL was not being able to hang out with you. Will you be at AquaShella TX? I think your wife got the name right. If I were going to change it, I would change it to Fred's Cookie, Cookie for short. You have done an amazing job, hope you give yourself time to enjoy.

[@tracybowling1156]

I could watch her explore for hours. If you have a chance can you put more video of her maybe on the 2nd ch? If not, that's ok too. She already looks like she loves it in her newest home!!

[@felixmakesart]

I second this!

[@cronanevermore2033]

Thirded!

[@ld_raine4247]

Makes me miss my snapper. She was upgraded to a 2-acre pond at my dad's house, but it's several hours away so I rarely see her. What are your plans when this little one gets 20lbs+?

[@litasf7713]

hopefully he builds a another natural pond in his backyard for it. would be cool

[@endfm]

I'd say he's going to eat it

[@hoperules8874]

@@litasf7713 😍

[@hoperules8874]

I've seen them bigger!!! There was one crossing the road before a flood across from my favorite fishing spot and it was easily the same size as the car's tire in height!

[@DraconisMarchVII]

"Yo what's going on, everyone! LD_Raine 424 here with another bioactive build. Today, we're upgrading my snapper to a 2-acre pond!"

[@steviet6878]

It's so awesome to see Freds legacy living on through so many different animal keepers here on KZbin. An amazing setup for such an amazing creature!

[@TythosEternal]

It's funny how the "temporary" home scape ends up being one of the most tasteful and unique tank builds. This really is one of my favorites, and the fact that you have a snapper again really warms my heart.

[@Martinbrody22]

Truly amazing for you to get one of Fred’s little miracle turtles. No one more deserving of such an honor!!

[@wilmawyatt2263]

I adore the look of the foliage above the water line. It looks absolutely amazing. Your attention to detail and adamant insistence on making decisions based around the needs and safety of your animals is a tremendous relief and a credit to your integrity as an animal keeper.

[@wheelchair_charlie]

Absolutely gorgeous build! One of my top three favorite setups you're done and the fact that its for such an amazing long living animal as a snapping turtle makes it all the more special. Looking forward to watching the turtle grow! 🐢

[@CricketsMa]

I am so tickled for you, Tanner! You’ve created a beautiful home for her, and I’m confident she will have the best life, ever, with you! Looking forward to updates.

[@gimmedimmy6533]

My partner and I have been watching your videos for a while and really appreciate how polished and beautifully presented they are. You're such a kind and earnest man too. Thank you for all the inspiration!

[@ingeniouspixie]

Such a gorgeously simple set up!! This gave me confidence I could do a riparium if I do get the frogs I want. Thank you!! I also am setting up a vivarium for a new crestie I am getting next weekend, using your background and scaping methods. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and vision!

[@OwlOfNivica]

One of my favorite builds so far. Love the beautiful green surface colors and textures juxtaposed with the simple and easy to see submerged areas. The contrast is amazing and gives a great view of the turtle. Quality work as always Tanner

[@Paul-li9hq]

Amazing plant choices and setup above the waterline. Totally inspiring! Has made me want to recreate something like it myself. Absolutely fantastic!

[@hjorhrafn]

I love snapping turtles, and I can't wait to see how she grows. This is a really pretty tank, especially considering how simple (by your build standards) it is.

[@geekyzebra91]

I just spend the last few weeks making my chameleon cage as natural as possible all because of you an the inspiration you have given me to make my reptiles life as great as possible

[@skeleton_wa_migraine1736]

Tanner, What a great set up! Very appealing to the eye and your videography of the turtle exploring her habitat is just awesome! Thank you for sharing your animal room with the world!

[@caughtafaygo]

Charlies facility is absolutely amazing as well! just meeting him is incredible in itself. awesome job on the build!

[@charlie_moorcroft]

Thank you 😊

[@charlie_moorcroft]

Come visit if you’re ever in south Florida

[@KodiakDunne]

this setup looks really cool one of my favorite recent ones you've done makes me wanna get a new tank for my red eared slider

[@liambrannelly45]

Every tank you build is like a work of art in itself! It always turns out SO beautiful, with a lot attention to detail. The turtle in this video is a magnificent creature, I couldn't get over how beautiful the shell-design on her back was!!! Thank you for giving her a new home.

[@snuugumz]

Thank you, Tanner, not only for creating a paradise for a creature that may or may not have survived without the assist from a caring human such as yourself, but for making the tank into a spectacular living work of art. You give this old gal hope for younger generations to come. Peace!

[@effy_kujo]

She's so cute 😍 and going to be massive if I'm recalling her parents correctly. How about Freddie in memoriam of the great, late Fred? He seemed like such an awesome dude and definitely earned his legendary status 🖤🐊🐢🦎🐍🖤

[@authorfabu]

My favorite suggestion. Consider Frederica because she’s a girl. If you ever do tours, I would love to meet her and Sampson. Or think about doing live feeds to watch the animals enjoying their fabulous homes. I’d play it all day, so calming.

[@caughtafaygo]

man having a Fred hybrid is priceless!! thats amazing! awesome stuff and thanks for the content

[@heartlandreptiles]

It’s so awesome that you have one of Fred’s animals! It’s great to see you setting her up so well! I’m sure Fred is smiling from above seeing what you’re doing for her!

[@viniceiacarter461]

Her setup looks awesome! And she’s so cute. Glad she had safe journey and she definitely has landed in great hands!

[@jereksliwinski2789]

Absolutely amazing Tanner! Fred’s Cookie is a very lucky turtle to have you as her keeper 👍

[@estherk2343]

Cookie is an adorable name! Her shell is just so gorgeous, and I love how the plants look. I would love to have a tank like this to look at, hopefully someday!

[@justinwilson2595]

Growing and grieving is part of life when we are the care givers and family. To what most people just call pets. You have an honest soul and I love your videos.

[@xfatalxflawx]

Turtles make the absolute worst pets for the vast majority of people due to how much space they require and most people's lack of desire to clean after them. That said, they're incredibly rewarding. I live with a common snapper in the animal room and love having him around. Excellent build, as always.

[@davethefishdudesteinbock5518]

The habitat looks Great! Fred would be happy knowing one of his babies is well taken care of

[@charlie_moorcroft]

Absolutely ❤️

[@talonekenstam7774]

You should try adding fairy moss to some of your aquatic setups as a floating plant. I think it could provide some additional texture variety, and is really efficient at removing waste from the water. Plus who doesn't want to make the water surface mossy (I mean it's technically a fern, but it still looks like moss)

[@MyloDika]

i had no idea what that was so i looked it up and it is absolutely stunning, thank you for sharing!

[@Qihte]

do you mean azolla? Im a bit confused

[@talonekenstam7774]

@@Qihte yeah, fairy moss is just the name they sell it by in my area, so it's what I'm accustomed to.

[@mmerriman4995]

Thanks so much! I am drawn to aqua scaping and my daughter to keeping unusual water animals. Thanks for being yet another place we connect!

[@Chompchompyerded]

"Just" a snapping turtle? It's a life. Thank you for caring for it, and giving it a great home!

[@JandSonsexoticadvantures]

Fred is a legend. I was really wanting one of those hybrids when they were for sale but lost my chance. Glad to see one of them went to someone like you!

[@monkey3059]

If you want a cheaper one order from snakes and sunset Florida they sell hybrid alligator Snappers there. The title is bullshit there are probably more than a million of these things running wild

[@monkey3059]

It's like $30 to $35 max for a baby hybrid btw and I believe the pedigree is between a Florida Common and a regular spiney alligator snapper so your getting a really really awesome pet that looks much cooler, bigger and cheaper

[@DevinMcSalty]

@@monkey3059 possibly the worst advice I’ve ever heard. It’s like recommending someone to get quality jewelry from the claw machine at an arcade lmaooo

[@inarb]

What an amazing creature. I think you should name it El Snapino but it’s ultimately up to you. Amazing work on the setup, it looks phenomenal.

[@waverindarkness3385]

Love how gently you set her down in there. It shows that you respect her. And I like her name!

[@jaranth]

This is so amazingly balanced -- left to right, top to bottom. Very Yin-Yang... but then the colors! I love it so much!

[@bDwS27]

I saw someone say you should name her Rocky , I love that name ! Shes very stone like

[@housemami66]

Truely love your work, Tanner! An exceptional animal for a special human . As a fierce opponent of any pet industry (due to its abusive nature) it's so reassuring that someone like you, with such a following always puts the animals needs first. Keep spreading the Word!

[@themurrrr]

She’s so adorable and the enclosure looks amazing as always. You really have such a talent for this.

[@morganw.4711]

She’s such a beautiful animal, and I know she will have a long, happy, healthy life with you!

[@al-op7oh]

I was sad to see the big piece of wood leave the tank but this is an awesome build (also Cookie is a great name - the greatest even)

[@craigsmart1986]

If they stayed at this size they'd be the best pet turtle

[@SerpaDesign]

There are plenty that stay smaller than this even, so that's debatable 😉

[@craigsmart1986]

@@SerpaDesign really? I thought all snapping turtles get huge

[@SerpaDesign]

@@craigsmart1986 Oh they do, I misunderstood. I thought you meant it would be perfect because of how small it is now.

[@nattiesgarden]

@@SerpaDesign Craig, the musk turtles are often nicknamed "mini snappers" because they share so many features. I have an adult female loggerhead musk and at 5 inches, she's the best turtle pet I could ever hope for. :-D

[@craigsmart1986]

@@nattiesgarden i like musk's I just think these look slightly cooler

[@owenboyed5201]

i built my first paludarium a few months back because of you and my frogs have never had a better home

[@adc.]

The fact that you care for animals with such a passion is so cool.

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

I think Cookie Cutter is a great name for a snapping turtle.

[@FinnegansFish]

Well done! Maybe someday, I'll have the space to keep an amazing animal like that.

[@princeapoopoo5787]

Cookie is one of the cutest names you could ever give to a snapping turtle. Aww.

[@beatles2001]

Love your new snapper I'm sure you will give it the very best care. Cookie is a great name your wife chose well. Will you be able to breed her if there is a male available seeing as she is an endangered species. Love your channel, thanks for making great content.

[@SerpaDesign]

I don't know if they can breed or if I'd even want to. I'm not crazy about hybrids, but this was a unique situation. Probably best to breed alligator snappers with alligator snappers.

[@StiggyAzalea]

@@SerpaDesign imo if the hybrids can breed and there no health issues, the species deserves to continue as much as anything else. I understand being iffy of them though, humans messing with animals like this is definitely a slippery slope

[@maximusworld5187]

Gorgeous tank, I like the name Shelly for her.

[@rickh3714]

@@StiggyAzalea It sounds like this was an inadvertent breeding by Fred rather than 'messing' per se with the genetics. However intergrades of other herps occur in the wild more often than some think. To some extent this is about the purism of scientists and the mania for classification. Further and further subdivisions of morphology and minor genetic changes emphasised, rather than the understanding that biology is dynamic. One mountain range or mudbank will erode and another water source will combine with another and ' sub' species will integrate again or closely related species may meet for the first time etc. These divisions may be hundreds, thousands or millions of years old. Substantial morphological changes in fish have occured since building of dams has isolated gene pools etc. These changes in shape and morphology have occurred within decades. I think newly separated lizards ( a gecko from memory) in artificial flooding scenarios have also been documented, with notable size changes from previously contiguous populations, this having occurred within decades. The change here occurring due to selection advantages/disadvantages of inherited traits within the existing gene pool. However with genuinely rare species, like for example the giant Leachianus gecko of the multiple Island nation of New Caledonia, breeders have long been aware of the need to maintain pure lines of Island specified subspecies & to be very aware of when hybrids blur the line. Chahoua geckos have also hybridized with ( I think) crested geckos in captivity. Why labeling and stock control & ensuring subsequent purchasers are aware of any - what I personally would regard as mostly undesirable blurring - (beyond the scientific understanding that there is now proof the species CAN combine).

[@CrystalHempstock]

Beautiful. Stunning. Got emotional at the end. She will be happy in her new home with you.

[@dawnwokson8202]

When a new housing development was built in my friend's town and a lot of snapping turtle eggs were exposed and another friend who is into snakes and different reptiles saved the eggs and I was given a chance to foster some of the babies,they were reds and yellows,just gorgeous. So we raised them up until they were too big for bird food then we released them into the wild . I had a nice creek and my one friend lives on the Mississippi. We still have a nice big female that visits to lay her eggs. Your setup is gorgeous as always

[@liamlimes8292]

I could watch an hour video of the turtle exploring the tank. With the amazing music you chose, it felt like I was on an otherworldly adventure.

[@silviavoss6411]

Wow that snapping turtle just moved into paradise with you, I'm so happy for you and the turtle and Fred is amazing so you getting a baby is amazing!

[@judithjeffers7666]

WOW!!! I love all of your tanks. About 25 years ago. My son and Ex found a baby snapping turtle. We lived in Maryland at the time. It was the end of November. They bought a 10 gallon tank because he was the size of a quarter. We kept it through the winter and released him mid spring. They took him back to the place they found him.

[@HundWasser]

Really looking forward to seeing updates and watching her grow.

[@RailCityFishes]

I am very impressed with the setup and attention to detail. Thanks for sharing.

[@DanTheTurtleMan_]

Absolutely incredible. I'm really happy these beauties are ending up in good hands like yours! Also I love Charlie 💚🐢

[@bobbiec2829]

She's beautiful and what an amazing home you're giving her. Congrats!

[@rkoff5744]

The tank looks really good. It could stand on its own as art. I don't know much about tanks, new to the channel but it looks like it's a lot of room to roam and hide. I bet Cookie is thrilled to have this as her home. Going now to watch the updated animal room. 🐢

[@cosmicplanter]

awesome video, glad you have a chance to try again with her. the tank is gorgeous!

[@CecilJChen]

A great new home for a growing turtle. Since I started watching your videos, I had hoped you would one day feature a turtle set-up. Yay. I'm curious to see how the spider plant does as well. I've had similarly planted spider plants in my aquariums and turtle tanks in the past and while they grew phenomenally at first, over time, the roots would start to rot, especially the tubers. I'd be interested to see how the spider plants in this enclosure fare. Looking forward to seeing some folllow-up videos about the turtle and the set-up. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@joeackermann7685]

you have like the most perfect voice to narrate videos :D amazing little creature you got there :) fred s animals have found perfect new homes. big up from luxembourg, keep up the good work :)

[@missewe]

That set up turned out fantastic! She's unique- you're lucky to have her! She's super lucky to have you too ! ❤️

[@3Y3ECE]

Super excellent setup, and I give you accolades for taking on such a notoriously destructive, and potentially violent species. As you and I know, the animal is a reflection of it's environment, and your environments are a grade above the rest. This animal will thrive under you care, and I'd wager even bond with you before a decade rolls by. I wish you all the best in your endeavors, and am eager to watch the lil' chomper grow up!! Thanks for the amazing content!! Truly a quality channel!

[@truthlesslouw]

Made my first aquarium after about 20years today. Your channel inspired me to get back into the hobby

[@proteanalias]

This is honestly one of my favorite builds you have made.

[@tammyjeffres8155]

I've been researching getting a spotted turtle. Your setup is beautiful and perfect!

[@insekta1701]

Your new turtle girl is beautiful! I’m glad you were able to take her in and give her a new home. I’m sorry about your previous turtle, and I’m glad your heart was able to let you bring this new turtle in need of a great home to your place.

[@ninorivera450]

Nice! What an inspiration this is. I am actually planning creating an environment where you get the beauty of an aquarium as well having living plants growing on top of it 🙂

[@TiffanyCSmith1]

Wow you are super talented. I've lived snappers ever since I reduced one back in the day. They are such loving creatures, she'll be so happy w you.

[@tiffanyfeatherston733]

Beautiful turtle habitate. I am eager to see how she grows and the changes you make to her home. She is fortunate to have you as a care provider.

[@hoosier_turtles_and_tortoises]

So cool! I also got one from our friend and I’ve been trying to decide a better setup. Thanks for the ideas!

[@siasta32]

She is really living the good life. I can't wait to see her progress. I think Cookie is adorable.

[@zisaletter4602]

aw man we had a pet snapping turtle growing up - those suckers are smart, and great climbers! I swear the little guy could tell my family apart from everyone else, 'cause he never bit us once but bit someone watching him while we were on vacation once. They're awesome creatures, love them SO much.

[@matthewweil9949]

You’re extremely talented..They are all pieces of art! Thank you for the awesome content!!

[@viktorclark1674]

I grew up in Florida and my very first pet was a Alligator Snapping Turtle. I love your videos Tanner. Keep up the good work and the amazing content.

[@RoseCityReptilesTX]

Perfect fit in your room, tank and heart. Thanks for another great video.

[@annaholmes6185]

love your comment about grieving your turtle. I completly understood what you meant, sometimes I know it is time for another animal/same species of animal or it is just the right timing. :)

[@davidsowens]

no words...!!! just in awe of your knowledge and creative ability

[@pixelrose8078]

What a little cutie pie ❤ she looks so happy in her new tank

[@Yolazonejevousaime]

Its incredible how Serpa made the water line so naturally and look like an actual river bank, I could see it without the water. That's amazing skills if you ask me

[@Dani-Innit]

I'm always so amazed by your building skills!! Been wanting another turtle and you definitely give me inspiration to dress my empty tank ❤️

[@greenbankreptiles]

Amazing work Tanner. One lucky turtle right there. What a set up and room to call home. Live from North Devon, England

[@DariusAttila]

Super nice looking setup and a very beautiful animal you got there! love your videos, i watch every single one!

[@user-jt8cc9rs4s]

I think Vida would be a beautiful name for her. She's proof that life can thrive and grow in the least expected places since she's such a rare hybrid. Also, she is clearly full of life in every scale and scute. Beautiful tank and turtle! 💚

[@kristenshumate8634]

I LOVE HER!!! You created a beautiful setup for her too. I've always admired these animals from afar and even have one tattooed on my arm. I think Cookie is the perfect name for her, she looks like a little chocolate chip!!

[@sharonkaczorowski8690]

You have a wonderful sense of design and color…it makes these works of art!

[@EkGooze]

You make it look so easy 😭 I struggle with plants in my aquarium over and over. Some of them just don't want to sit tight in their places Respect your art and skill with all my heart~

[@frogpalpeeper4249]

Great video, beautiful and practical build. Gorgeous set up!

[@ybk6858]

Youre tank setup looks incredible.. I wish your turtle the best of luck. Keep it up brother

[@PAFrogBoy]

Production quality of the video is insane. Very polished finished product, both video and tank

[@trak957]

Fabulous set up again tanner, I cant wait till next week ;) keep up the good work

[@mikebell7240]

Your room is just incredible. Wow nice and clean and so well done