Plss consider this video and my thoughts within the confines of the structure I presented. I know I majorly simplified things to make it easier to follow (i.e. giving one point to each category when in real life things are much more complex). Also as I mention multiple times, all these industries can be great depending on what you look for and you can create a great career for you. So take everything with a grain of salt! 🧑🏫Wharton & Wall Street Prep PE Certificate Program🧑🏫 ► Use code RARELIQUID for up to $500 OFF - secure.enroll.wharton.wallstreetprep.com/referral/fkx0rrss/s2yqD1GUkwps4u5h ► Download LBO Model - secure.enroll.wharton.wallstreetprep.com/referral/DSczdzDz/s2yqD1GUkwps4u5h 🚀FREE Career Resources🚀 ► My AI Newsletter - rarecandyai.com/ ► Download Financial Models - rareliquidcareers.com/models ► Join the rareliquid Discord Community - discord.gg/AHnxBUGTwt
@mickietam2 ай бұрын
the link to the LBO model doesn't seem to be working...cld u plz check? Thanks Ben!
@harryp111332 ай бұрын
As a controller/finance manager, I think you’re underselling FP&A. Working as a CFO is arguably the endgame of FP&A, and I would argue ranks S-tier in prestige, compensation AND work-life balance.
@swagmassa67022 ай бұрын
I would say he ranked FP&A as C because you can do FP&A at every company even if it's not in the finance industry
@Kyle-mb4dg2 ай бұрын
Im in FP&A. Great work life balance. Lots of exposure, especially working at a smaller company. Can easily be at 100-150k comp and not hate your job/life.
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
i mean once ur at the very very top in any industry it’s very lucrative and have great prestige and work life balance. MDs at banks, partners at funds, etc all equivalent pretty much equivalent to CFO
@Alexrogue2 ай бұрын
braindead job
@wallstreetzoomer2 ай бұрын
@@swagmassa6702 I mean when we rank any corporate finance/strategy/development jobs we’re pretty much talking about f500, just like when we rank ib we are not talking about a boutique.
@lucaspatterson2 ай бұрын
Honestly the comp section should be broken down $/hour worked. Would shape up much differently.
@rareliquidАй бұрын
agree with u on this maybe ill do a follow up one with a more complex analysis!
@keithkan122 ай бұрын
Please don't base your career on these rankings. It's very biased. Some people in FP&A get paid even more than most people in hedge funds. You need to calculate the risk-adjusted salary over the entire career.
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
yes obviously can’t choose a career based on one video and i say many times in this video that there’s much more to each job than these rankings and that u can have a great career in any of these industries. i would say tho the avg comp in hedge funds is way more than at fp&a for the person who is the same age. risk adjusted salary good point tho cuz u can get fired at hedge fund much more easily (also something i mention in video tho)
@peterhaberlehner67492 ай бұрын
Who’s getting paid 500k at 28 yo in fp&a? Come on.. I get your point and it’s fair but let’s not exaggerate that bad. Unless you are looking at very small shops, HF SM and MM will pay you 2x what you earn in IB/PE because it’s precisely the golden exit ticket to both of those
@moomie16342 ай бұрын
Hello, VC/startup person here. On the comp figures for VC, it depends a LOT firm to firm, and the biggest thing is that you get a ton of carry, and a lot of smaller firms have 2 tier'd systems that allow you to get to partner level really quick. VC people stay in it for the long haul, as it's an industry where carry is probably the biggest variable. Plus, the people at the top make WAY more in VC than in HF or PE, as their fund returns are super strong, and you basically just need to make 1 good bet to make a career.
@oneandonlyflow2 ай бұрын
Huhh?? Not everyone gets a ton of carry you usually need to be a GP. Also, top people at PE and HF make a ton too.
@moomie16342 ай бұрын
@@oneandonlyflow small amounts of carry in a fund that makes a good bet do really well. Big vc firms like sequoia already pay big bases, so it's more like the difference between a MM fund or a SM fund. More people and money means higher base, lower carry and vice versa
@Django1921 күн бұрын
I knew a few folks who put their hours in IB/PE in their twenties and then went into FP&A when they started a family and wanted to settle down a little (taking a very comfy six figure role with better hours and forgoing the lucrative bonuses they would have received otherwise). You never hear about someone going the reverse route (starting in FP&A).
@sirbrochill77572 ай бұрын
the greatest talent is literally realizing that these jobs exist and getting an internship. Nobody i know has heard of any of these jobs
@wallstreetzoomer2 ай бұрын
Especially knowing it during high school and freshman year.
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
one reason why i wanted to make this video!
@ApfelNicknack2 ай бұрын
Very difficult to rank jobs purely based on such broad roles. Sales & Trading can be a D tier job but if you look at some specific desks it can be S tier, especially since you get guys with PhDs in maths or physics from top schools there who can easily outearn MDs in the IBD.
@davidc44082 ай бұрын
Do not need PhD, can just have a Masters in financial mathematics from a top 30 global university
@eddy9492Ай бұрын
Valid. Exactly what I was thinking.
@jbtryz638002 ай бұрын
At most BB investment banks, global markets (S&T) has a much bigger share of revenue compared to fees earned from IB -the wild bond trading days of the 80s may be over, but it’s definitely still a very relevant piece of the ecosystem.
@jackreacher45472 ай бұрын
This is an informative video as a non-finance person. Prestige is an interesting metric though. It kind of falls off if you're not in finance and really have no insight into the roles. Also, there's youtubers that make more money than people in finance and have no corporate prestige lol.
@jackreacher45472 ай бұрын
@user-bq8ei4cb5w Ironically, the Wharton grad that makes these videos decided to choose KZbin over a pure finance career. lol. Also, you don't/shouldn't care about other peoples opinions about what you do.
@wallstreetzoomerАй бұрын
Prestige is how much other firm will value your role, not how much your beer buddies respect you. In PE you can literally join any of the lower tier jobs but it’s impossible to get anywhere in your career once you’re a salesman in pwm
@jackreacher4547Ай бұрын
@@wallstreetzoomer I think you're missing my point. I'm saying prestige of finance falls off outside of finance. Of course it can matter in the finance industry when it comes to getting a job.
@wallstreetzoomerАй бұрын
@@jackreacher4547 oh I agree with you there. There is also an industry prestige tier with engineering at the top (many finance firms love engineering grads) and social studies at the bottom.
@carterfinance2376Ай бұрын
Fantastic video!!
@uzigoat69342 ай бұрын
Great video! I work in investor relations at a NY Alts firm, so I can add some color given as you mentioned there isn’t much info out there. All in comp for someone 2-3 years out is closer to $150-250 depending on the size of the fund. Hours are more like 50-70 depending on how many funds your firm raises a year. Prestige depends, you’ll definitely never be at the level of someone in a buy side role, but other than that, your viewed as pretty prestigious (although as someone with a few years in the industry I can tell you that prestige is kind of dumb to care about, worry about how many hours you have to work and how much your getting paid for it). Hope this adds some color
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
great additional info and i do think IR is super overlooked / underrated as i mention multiple times in the vid!
@unitedslaysfv2166Ай бұрын
Loved to see your take on these fields, but you forgot to add in quant finance !
@davidbrowne5938Ай бұрын
Feel like I just caught a stray working in PWM lol
@Doug-rv3nrКүн бұрын
Having a multi-dimensional approach to these rankings in OP. Really solid. It would have been interesting to also list the title of the position in the salary section though. Really solid! Sub earned! BTW, I am making the move from Google to MBA in hopes of making it into VC -> HF
@deviss7114Ай бұрын
I feel like you should’ve also included quants in the ranking too
@mbnesbitt2 ай бұрын
The right choice of an investment has always been a big problem for me I know picking a wrong investment will leave a big scar in the future.
@hamzahamza-bz3rf2 ай бұрын
It’s really heartbreaking to see how inflation and recession impact low-income families. The cost of living keeps rising, and many struggle just to meet basic needs, let alone save or invest. It’s a reminder of the importance of finding ways to create financial opportunities. You've helped me a lot sir Brian! Imagine i invested $50,000 and received $190,500 after 14 days
@faysdt4142 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Profits are possible, especially now, but complex transactions should be handled by experienced market professionals.
@vanillatgif2 ай бұрын
Some persons think inves'tin is all about buying stocks; I think going into the stock market without a good experience is a big risk, that's why I'm lucky to have seen someone like mr Brian C Nelson.
@BigNate822 ай бұрын
Brian demonstrates an excellent understanding of market trends, making well informed decisions that leads to consistent profit
@grizbaseball2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that you just mentioned and recommend Mr Brian Nelson. I met him at a conference in 2018 and we have been working together ever since.
@CashPaper416Ай бұрын
that segue into the first ranking was hilarious
@rareliquidАй бұрын
it was subtle and not many have talked about this in the comments as i thought lolol
@wsnelms2 ай бұрын
Can you prepare a video related to the career opportunities and exit strategies for Quant Traders?
@celestialtimesquid2 ай бұрын
It's unfortunate that the compensation and work-life balance lists are almost mutually exclusive. You almost are required to sacrifice one for the other, and while it's simply a product of how much work you put in, it's depressing.
@yassinazarkan42072 ай бұрын
How is this depressing, you already understand it is a product of how much work you put in?
@Financeforyou1182 ай бұрын
Venture capital remains exception
@pepehimovic31352 ай бұрын
I’m a bit baffled. More work, more earn. Is that not what you want from a society?
@ADAM-hi4uu2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the capitalist world lmao of course it's stupid and counterproductive
@lucaspm982 ай бұрын
If there’s an easier career that pays better, more people go into it and increase the labor supply and drive down salaries.
@davidc44082 ай бұрын
Private wealth management is a bit broad...I worked in real estate commercial fund management and umbrella of division was under PWM
@kiwi96602 ай бұрын
crazy work
@vickyt.8192 ай бұрын
Of course in a way biased, but I find all these factors important, so its a good list!
@Financeforyou1182 ай бұрын
Please include risk management aswell from the next go
@robertgu8551Ай бұрын
bro, you work in IB, you can exit to PE or a HF. Nobody know what it takes to get into VC; bar is infinitely higher. Sequoia guy can easily get a job at KKR growth equity or PE but not vice versa.
@katherinezhang11512 ай бұрын
Thanks super helpful! What do you think of corporate banking?
@tylermerker8447Ай бұрын
have to disagree with the commercial banking ranking. you can do levfin, sponsor finance, ABL, Corp banking, very competitive specialties in commercial banking and on par with IB.
@albama3987Ай бұрын
Hey good sir, thanks for making this video. Curious on the lifestyle of VC firms - do you know how often seniors travel? I would assume pretty often given fundraising, meeting companies, attending conferences. Currently an IB analyst as well with bad motion sickness (lol) so trying to figure out my next steps in terms of maximizing dollar / per hour while not traveling. Leaning towards co-invest or vc but would love to hear your thoughts on both.
@coiu56722 ай бұрын
As a commercial banker, I don't really think 25 year olds are making 70-80k. The issue is your bonus and incentive comp comes in after you're an RM, and that generally happens at 25. ChatGPT definitely has it wrong, lol.
@tylermerker8447Ай бұрын
im a senior credit analyst in commercial / corp banking making 90k with a 15% target bonus. depends what group you’re in.
@eddy9492Ай бұрын
IMO I’d be much more impressed by an exotic derivs trader at a BB than a banker at an EB
@adamstepien511628 күн бұрын
what positions does a corporate finance job fall under with regard to the way you segmented the jobs in these rankings
@swraith92402 ай бұрын
When will you make videos about project ideas for each industry to get into those?
@achmatjappie322516 күн бұрын
What about strategic finance? I would say its interesting and can be different than FP&A.
@ethandavis9612 ай бұрын
My finance profession doesnt even make the list 😂 Shows the level of prestige advisors have lmao
@spideyfanboy2 ай бұрын
Private banking def has higher compensation
@chaiyatatchawaldit60452 ай бұрын
where are the quants hello? citadel undergrad interns at $120 per hour
@celestialtimesquid2 ай бұрын
That's just because citadel is cracked asf lol
@paul_w2 ай бұрын
@@celestialtimesquidAny quant makes good money, that should have been included in the ranking, doesnt make much sense to have “hedge fund” when that encompasses a variety of jobs
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
i’m including them in hedge fund
@jasonj82462 ай бұрын
are these the best jobs in finance ? can you do a video on the best careers in general ? like medical and tech ?
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
sure can do that
@davidtodorovic1422 ай бұрын
Quant analyst are the best jobs..both combining tech and finance at the same time
@MJL1611212 күн бұрын
Wouldn't Corp dev more of an A tier? VC as S tier?
@sirbrochill77572 ай бұрын
@rareliquid would love to hear who introduced you to these jobs. would be an interesting and engaging vid. All other channels are missing this.
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
u just hear about them when u work in the industry
@ravinduakalanka68342 ай бұрын
What kind of first degree has a better demand to get into investment banking,PE,VC,Hedge fund stuff like that
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
business, economics, math, stats, etc but more importantly internships that show you’re interested in the field
@ravinduakalanka68342 ай бұрын
Isn't finance degree?😢
@sagar9060Ай бұрын
Just degree won't help. What you learn outside of your degree that's related to your job helps. Everyone has a degree but aren't fit.
@nje322 ай бұрын
Need a worst jobs in finance ranking
@ErdoneChang2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🎉 Have a question,how about the legal and compliance department?😊
@paul_w2 ай бұрын
These two are very different (and require different backgrounds).
@APTry32 ай бұрын
Where would you rank Family Office investing?
@FernandoAugustoCunhaLeony21 күн бұрын
Where would Private Banking fit?
@psalmlo122 ай бұрын
what did you study during undergraduate?
@karimbeydoun30522 ай бұрын
insurance jobs don’t count? AIG and similar companies pay well.
@paul_w2 ай бұрын
That ranking is very biased (and your explanations more detailed) towards the corp side rather than the market side (which is understandable because thats your background) but people should be aware of that.
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
was trying not to be but i guess i cant be 100% unbiased. lmk if i said anything wrong
@DH05182 ай бұрын
As a former banker in Hong Kong, I think it's pretty fair. 😂
@shamarg62 ай бұрын
@@rareliquidI would argue that Fixed Income S&T, Private Banking, and AM at a place like JP Morgan can pay on par or even more than IB
@G449842 ай бұрын
How about Family Office!
@robertgu8551Ай бұрын
if it's your family capital, its SSS tier. You are your own MD lmao or your dad is your MD lmao.
@TylerJacobs32 ай бұрын
where would business valuation fall on this list?
@VisiónFinancierakytАй бұрын
can i get if i dont have a greencard?
@masonliebe10442 ай бұрын
Quant trumps all tho 😎
@ravinduakalanka68342 ай бұрын
Is not a finance degree best for get into field like this?
@adityaprayoga13692 ай бұрын
IB/hedge fund soon to be
@Alex-kk9yn2 ай бұрын
Dude, I like your videos and am watching you since a long time, but this video isnt good at all. You as someone with so many connections and exclusive insights in this amazing industry could have given info on daily tasks, typical cultures and types of people who work there, showing possible challenges & personal growth opportunities for the viewer. Please continue with HQ Content, you're better than that.
@matthewjean-mary2761Ай бұрын
I feel as if he has done a lot of that in other solo videos and interviews with other industry professionals.
@skymaster96652 ай бұрын
where would you place risk management in tis list? Just curious
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
for prestige prob like D tier, comp C/D, work life A/S - roughly speaking
@MegaDictator992 ай бұрын
Where do Capital Markets (DCM/ECM) go?
@cjmor65902 ай бұрын
No consulting?
@yassinazarkan42072 ай бұрын
Not finance
@ecommercewolves56772 ай бұрын
What about corporate banking?
@frank_yang2 ай бұрын
I got an F 💀💀
@morrisyenwiechen2 ай бұрын
What about Real Estate Private Equity
@maxwell77712 ай бұрын
Would say many people leave IB for private credit…
@MikeDitka54232 ай бұрын
Bit disappointed in this vid. Your interviews are great at detailing different careers and I’m a huge fan of them, but tough to be ranking careers and weighing them 33% on “prestige” which ultimately doesn’t matter (work in PE). Not the right message to be delivering but guess views are views and here I am watching this one. Please keep up the interview content tho - those are fantastic
@footballinmyblood90852 ай бұрын
Bro how to get into sales and trading ... pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@HilaryCornell-e8l2 ай бұрын
Kirsten Expressway
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
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@montyjackson99052 ай бұрын
Included 0 corporate finance 😂
@rareliquid2 ай бұрын
lot of these jobs fall under corp fin haha like fpa investor relations tax etc