Raspberry Pi 4 8GB & USB Boot

[@PrajjalakChattopadhyay]

I'm a Physics masters (MSc) student from India, and since I don't have a laptop, I'm using the RPi4 4GB model. It just works fine for my tasks - programming in Fortran90, C, python, plotting in gnuplot, doing complicated calculations in GNU octave (CLI) etc. It's a cheap but beautiful thing for students.

[@AtlantaTerry]

If you look into the history of the Raspberry Pi, you will come to understand that it was designed for students to do exactly what you are doing with it.

[@FuzzyElf]

Hurrah!

[@defencebangladesh4068]

Perfect fit

[@41708]

You are the perfect case that demonstrates the utility of this SBC. We are trying to promote it's use on arabic speaking communities, to take people away from dependance on android phones to something more powerful and educational. Here is an (imperfect)attempt to do that; kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaPChpqKgNClptk We all do our best my friend, the world needs us. Thanks to Chris we are all here discussing these "insects"

[@markharrisllb]

I hope 2020/21 didn’t have too negative impact on your studies.

[@tonysanderson7741]

I really like how Intuitive and thorough this guy is, he really acticulates very well

[@eeyoreofborg]

This guy is the Bob Ross of tech. Happy little processes.

[@RoborobsComputers]

That's funny cause it is so true.

[@MGSncB]

The mic needs to be adjusted a bit, though. A bit too sharp. "32" sounds like "sir-ty two"

[@omnivorace]

Raspberry PI is my musical server, connected on a DAC, and I use Audacious to manage the library (on a 7" screen). Once again, like my interest for Linux, I discovered all this by EC. Thanks a lot Christopher ! :)

[@ExplainingComputers]

Sounds like a great setup!

[@SixOThree]

I use my Pi4 as a kitchen computer with an old 4:3 19" LCD. I use it for recipes and for watching youtube videos while I'm working in the kitchen. I have a Pi3 as a CUPS and pihole server.

[@Cneqq]

damn that actually sounds like a good idea lol

[@tortysoft]

I've stuck an old iPad on the kitchen wall ( very old iPad ).

[@michealdumasii5432]

How does it connects to a monitor etc., through USB/HDMI male/female connectors?

[@davidanalyst671]

Did they actually fix the card reader boot issues? Like my comment on this vid, I spent literally 24 hours of troubleshooting to get Raspbian on pi3, and the only thing that worked was an ancient card purchased 15 years ago for my camera, with like 3 gb storage.

[@tedoyle61]

I've always used my pi(s) for small services like dhcp, etc. I think the continual progress is great. I may grab one of the 8 gb models and setup a workstation around and see how it goes. But the video you created is a wonderful video. Thanks so much!

[@ezContents]

A big advancement with the booting from SSD. No more worries with the swap partition and writing log files on the SD card.

[@KaelumYodi]

An SSD and an SD card use the exact same technology. Both have the exact same write limits. So don’t go celebrating that you can write to a specific location more times, as you can’t. The only difference is that with an SD card the OS needs to manage write failures, whereas the SSD does it internally. FYI, I will not respond to anyone commenting about things that I have not discussed. I will only respond to what I have said above

[@BilisNegra]

@@KaelumYodi I think I will keep to myself what I think about those first two sentences because, well, would not exactly be kind words. My god...

[@kataseiko]

My big question now is: Will that firmware update also roll out for Pi3 devices or will it be the big improvement that will make us upgrade to Pi4?

[@yumri4]

@@KaelumYodi A good SD card yes while most SSDs use good NAND Flash while you ca nstill buy a cheap SD card with bad NAND Flash on it. Most people do not want a bad hard drive but most people don't know much about SD cards.

[@seshpenguin]

@@KaelumYodi Your right, an SSD contains a controller that's able to do things like wear-leveling and caching, but its also worth noting that most SSD contain higher quality NAND flash chips that are rated for much higher write cycles than an SD card (which is really meant for sequential writes a handful of times, like in a camera).

[@CenturionKZ]

The man is XIX century English nobleman and futuristic/progressive nerd at the same time.

[@chborger185]

or MCM -ESDproof take a 65,6168FEET gpio HONEYwell MICROswitch runs's 24/7 more over YEARS congratulation Thx oe5RDS 77.5Khz 107.3Mhz HtopJOB's

[@lungaro]

Where do I begin? The RPI helps me love and learn linux. I use my RPI4 (4GB) as a NAS (Samba), Webserver (Apache) with Owncloud, VPN Router (OpenVPN), currently testing Wireguard as a personal VPN. It has become the heart of my network. Well done to the Raspberry Pi Foundation. I had a BBC Micro growing up, and the new bookshelf app reminds me of the computer books my father used to buy in the 80's.

[@andynl6443]

Nice! With clustering 8GB versions you can try doing the same and more in home made datacentre using Ansible, Kubernetes and Docker containers, and monitoring via Prometheus and Grafana.

[@autohmae]

@@andynl6443 a 64-bit arm version of Gitlab exists it seems... having a 3 node cluster wouldn't be a bad idea having all the data distributed properly so that the loss of one means everything keeps working

[@W1ldTangent]

If my Pi server goes down, half my network stops working... so I got a new 8GB to join the 4GB and have doubled up all the most important network services containers and VMs haha

[@W1ldTangent]

@@autohmae Gitea works on ARM64 as well :)

[@soulest2081]

I would recommend looking at SoftEther VPN as well.

[@drcesmartins]

Chris your unboxing while you are describing your feelings about it make your videos the best ones! Furthermore the technical explanation, indeed. Keep rocking!

[@taidee]

Great to see you featured on a magazine Prof, let the world know more about your massive amount of work, not just in academia 🤟🏾🙏🏾

[@termile510]

This guy never ages... wish I knew the secret

[@AndrewJackson2000]

The secret ingredient is -Umpa Lumpa -Slurm juice... Produced by Willy Wonka from Futurama time.

[@6581punk]

He's a master with 3D graphics, you think that's a real person talking? :)

[@garrockwaters304]

He's a ROBOT!!!

[@USMCasper]

He created the deepfake software. This isn't really him. Just a simulation.

[@supahfly_uk]

The secret is SBC's

[@MikeCatrone]

The increased memory would be great for virtual devices and app development on the go. A tiny little programmer device is what I would like to build

[@AndyPayne42]

I can use it for my camera application because I store video in memory to scan for motion changes and then decide to dump to disk github.com/physiii/open-automation/tree/dev

[@augurseer]

Chris. I loved the 2012 PI side by side. Omg you brought me back. I met Eben Upton at a conference in Toronto in 2012 before the launch and he made me fall in love with this project. I have owned every PI. Sold a few to pay for upgrades :). So much happy memories.

[@ExplainingComputers]

It has been quite a journey . . . and it is not over yet!

[@MrJozza65]

Whilst the 8GB is an improvement to the Pi, I think that the OS and firmware updates are more exciting. Being able to boot from and use an SSD as the main drive is a major improvement to the Pi; it will open up a whole lot of new opportunities to use it as a more fully featured computer, and the option to run a 64 bit OS may come in handy for programs which make use of that. I would still like to see improved graphics drivers though, as I understand it the on board graphics are still being throttled by the lack of driver support for more GFX intensive programs.

[@ExplainingComputers]

We are in agreement I think! :)

[@yxcvbnmmnbvcxy544]

With all of the improvements in the os my pi 2b can now play video on VLC media player, browsing is ok and KZbin also works if you're patient enough to load the site and go to full screen. When the pi 2 came out video playback were still frames with choppy audio and 100% CPU.

[@autohmae]

@@ExplainingComputers I don't fully understand the excitement, you could always just boot from a SD-card (/boot) and use USB-device as root. Thus not even touching the SD-card anymore only reading it at book and no reading/writing during normal operations. Is it just that people don't know how, or to much work ?

[@ExplainingComputers]

@@autohmae It is neither "don't know how" or "too much work". The Pi before could not boot from USB, as you make clear. It now can, and that opens up many possibilities. Hybrid boot setups are hardly ideal or common.

[@W1ldTangent]

@@ExplainingComputers I don't see the big deal with hybrid setup being "bad" at all? It literally is only active for a few seconds at the very start of the boot process and then doesn't get touched again until next boot or a bootloader update. I've been running my Pi4s with Ubuntu like this since the 4GB came out with no issues I didn't cause myself by trying to mess with that setup.

[@techman2471]

I will replace my RaspPi 3B with the RaspPi 4 4GB for now. I would love to build a NUC-like portable minicomputer for testing and recording data at work.

[@adammoores8190]

That bookshelf is something else, really.. really good stuff hahahah "and an interview .. with mee!" love it m8, keep up the good work

[@tubegor]

I have Raspberry Pi 4 8GB since July 2019, so I bought 2 pieces with 4GB back then :) But seriously, SD out SSD on it, this is new era for RPI. We have waited long enough for this.

[@sethrd999]

An interesting observation is everyone is welcoming this boot over USB when eMMC boots just as fast without taking up a USB port, and yet oh but no wifi ( with other boards ) and I have to use a dongle O_o sorry there is alot of irony here with bias i think.

[@billrichard9730]

Hopefully it will be an expansion that fits under the board. I have seen a few others which put it outside the board or require a fancy rig to tuck under

[@tubegor]

@@sethrd999 Thanks for your information about wifi, I would never notice that because my RPI is in a solid aluminum housing and so RPI and I always have the same temperature 36.6 ° C (both of us at full load). Unfortunately, when it comes to SD cards, they don't live that long (they are not made for permanent access). For loss of a USB3 port I bought a USB3 (4X) hub with switches. I see no ironic bias here but an objective criticism and it is always welcome.

[@williamrutter3619]

@@sethrd999 emmc is handy storage, but not as fast a SSD on a usb.

[@tubegor]

@@williamrutter3619 That's right hdparm test shows: sudo hdparm -t / dev / sda1 shows 320.31 MB / sec for SSD sudo hdparm -t / dev / mmcblk0 shows only 70 MB / sec for SD card 320MB and 70MB is a difference, SSD is 4.6 times faster

[@BeOurBee]

1) I have a 4GB model on the way to use as a media server, my first foray into NAS hardware or software, and my first time converting all my disc-based media to files. I also ordered one of those alumin(i)um heatsink cases after watching your passive cooling video, to avoid throttling and pretty up the board a bit. I hope to have it attached via Ethernet to a WiFi extender in another part of my home with a 5GHz backhaul to the mane router. I have as couple of Pi 3 (not-plus) boards to use for playback on dumb TVs, so I'm going to try some Kodi-oriented images on those. Another first time project! 2) I have a slightly different version of that model B, with a black audio jack and D14 populated on the board (bottom side). It's sitting in a dusty old Lego case I built shortly after buying it, right after release. One thing I liked is that the board's dimensions were extremely Lego-friendly and it fits snugly into a space of 11 by 7 Lego studs (with allowances for the ports). Sadly, not the case for the newer versions of the Pi! I was just wondering the other day if it was worth using versus a Pi Zero W for a networked music player build. The extra RAM and faster CPU are probably worth it, along with integrated WiFi. 3) How are you liking the new Chapter feature for KZbin videos?

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks for this. I very much like the chapter feature -- but it gives me something else to do! :)

[@legojenn]

When I returned to Uni in 2014, I bought a mac mini and macbook air to permit me to use proprietary software for the programme. They're still running well and I'm in no hurry to buy a new laptop now that I'm in grad school and less dependent on proprietary tools. I do, however, miss having a Linux desktop. The 8 Gig Pi might help me with my Linux fix and put off a PC purchase a little further into the future. If only Mint would run on the Pi, it would be somewhat nifty. Thank you for the review.

[@BoonieOetGelaen]

The 2GB model will probably be more than you need. I would save some €€€ and nog go for 8GB.

[@h.b.5577]

Why not just install linux on the macbook air or mac mini? If storage is a problem you can simply upgrade the drives or boot from thunderbolt or usb. A pi is a great machine, but if I’ve already have both a usable laptop and desktop I’d just use them instead...

[@dffabryr]

I think the USB boot it is a great step forward and yes ! Raspberry is closer to replace desktop computers, we even consider it while working to move 300 people using desktop computers from the office to their homes. Once again congratulations for your excellent videos Chris. Kind regards from Chile!

[@shamrock1961]

EXCELLENT VIDEO CHRIS as always!!! I learn more from you in less than 20 min. time than from anyone else. PLEASE keep up the great work. You really help us aged over 60 crowd make good sense out these new technologies. As a Linux user for more than 10 years I find products like the Pi as a liberating opportunity to down size for so many daily tasks. Thanks again!

[@TheSpicerider125]

You wrote the latest OS for PI 4. Well done my friend, You're the Big Boss. Your videos are amazing. Thanks a lot.

[@laineg.4468]

New OS is great!

[@earlsciambrajr.841]

That's because Christopher Barnett is the still very alive Steve Jobs/John Lennon.

[@dwarf365]

5 days late, however you can go to the beta eeprom folder click on tools and open folder in terminal. that way you don't have to type in the full path. This has been the only method I was able to successfully get working. I can ALWAYS count on Prof. Chris! Thank you SO much for all that you do!

[@MartinBgelund]

I recently bought the Pi4 8Gb along with the Argon One aluminium cooling case, previously tested here on this channel. I've set it up with Raspberry Pi OS 32-bit and will use it as my Linux system, which I access using VNC Viewer from Windows 10. Until now I've had a Linux/Windows dual boot setup. But this way I can have both systems entirely separate. I'm looking forward to the USB boot coming out of beta, so that I can skip the SD card. Thanks Chris, for this great video. And you really have earned to be directly featured in an operating system :-)

[@RoboNuggie]

That was great.... thank you, and the news that they have a Beta of this new firmware, brilliant news indeed. Well, Christopher - I must say that your place in the Raspberry Pi hall of fame is well deserved! Your contribution will be accessible to thousands of pupils across the world if they ever need help with their Pi :-)

[@ctbinary42]

That is a nifty little board! It's given me a few ideas now that it can boot from a USB drive. Thanks as always, Chris

[@totophi]

InscrutableOwl : May I ask what sort of ideas? 😎

[@PeterScargill]

Just bear in mind that a USB stick is neither faster nor more reliable than an SD. A decent USB3 SSD drive on the other hand, should be.

[@siku5it]

I keep finding your videos to be the some of the most useful for the average guys like me. (I'm a Systems Engineer in Canada BTW). - I have successfully used two of your videos to setup the RPI4 8GB with the beta firmware (took some risk there but it worked) and to set it up like a NAS. - So far so good! - Keep up with the good work professor!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Great to hear my Pi videos have been helpful. :)

[@GlowingCrystalGirl]

10:16 smile more Chris, we all love you

[@ExplainingComputers]

:)

[@MrBratkenSolov]

in that face i see an ultimate urge to talk to you again

[@josephturner1119]

Chris, This video was exactly what I was looking for. I was researching other SBC's because I wanted to run on an NVME or SSD. After watching, I decided to take a chance and install the 2020-06-15 EPROM, and it worked! This was a game-changer because I am converting and consolidating a few of my older Pi's to run off of a Docker server I have set up on my 4b. Currently, I have independent pi's running Pihole and Octoprint. Now, I'll be migrating those to my 4b Docker server.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Great to hear! :)

[@DaveGagliardi]

Chris, I understand that this can also boot from ethernet? Can you do a video on that also please?

[@iflnr978]

i want the same video

[@x91w]

@@iflnr978 www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/net_tutorial.md

[@softstart100]

I purchased the pi4/4 GB to use as a mobile amateur radio interface utilizing the software hampi. Then I found your channel which has me hooked on something I know nothing about ( raspberrypi) so far not coding or trying to be a programmer which I'm not, this has been Interesting and fun. Now to remove the ad card and upgrade to a ssd to boot from and run. Thanks for all your efforts and sharing information to help others (me).

[@duncan94019]

I have several projects I'd like to do. First off I want to use a Pi as a dedicated email device. I have several friends who, like me, are older and not interested in learning the latest ins and outs of a computer. For us, the computer needs to be simple, reliable, and easy to use. So for my first project I want to roll out a simple, easily (perhaps even automatically) updateable machine that just does email and maybe some word processing. For me, that means something that, ideally, can be left on all the time or that powers on and comes up and logs onto email. It also needs to be able to print on a networked printer. I think the new OS and a 4GB Pi 4 is probably right for this job. As noted, I am older, but as an engineer who has made my living working on computers, I want to have my own VPN and NAS. I am not satisfied with the 1080p video, or I would like to use the Pi to repace my google cast system and use a simple interface to select various streaming video sources to my TV. I find my (age) contemporaries have a real problem selecting different HDMI inputs on their TVs. I think Pi can help solve this if they get the video improved.

[@dffabryr]

While reading your post I remembered the mainframe era, those wonderful and rock solid computers such as IBM, Burroughs, Digital, Data General

[@adammoores8190]

I strongly recommend an odroid XU4 with Armbian, I'm able to host an nginx, PHP, elasticsearch, redis and mysql instance, and also run visual studio code AND make live edits using Firefox/Chrome element inspector for a complete webdev solution all under one tin lid and it barely breaks a sweat. I did try the rp4 for the same task but I had issues with CPU throttling that made it unusable though it did have a really.naff power supply which I'm not sure but believe are upgradable on the pi's. Using a powered usb hub did help but opted for the odroid and will probably continue with them for the foreseeable

[@duncan94019]

@@adammoores8190 Thanks a lot!! I will do!

[@duncan94019]

@Jules Moules I too have been playing with these things on the Pi 4. I'm not entirely satisfied with the results, but hopeful they will arrive. I am disappointed there has not been more progress in the last year. That is probably just unreasonable expectations on my part.

[@AnilArya51]

Like Raspberry Pi 1 we will compare Pi 4 with 8 GB RAM to newer versions of Pi ,just imagine that How much RAM do you expect in the future Pi ??

[@NewAgeDIY]

My Pi collection is growing ever 4 months it appears. Finding a suitable projects is a problem. My Pi 4 4GB is a NAS , my new Pi 4 8 GB is operating as my latest daily driver (Desktop) Thanks Chris for your review. PS Your background information in the comment section is greatly appreciate Chris. Will done

[@theJesai]

You use a Raspberry Pi as a daily device!? Wow! How's the performance?

[@NewAgeDIY]

J T /. Thanks for the question. As a long time Maker, I have a number of computers ranging from a Ryzen 7 2700 to 27” iMac i7. I have setup my new Raspberry Pi 4 8GB to be able to run different office programs. Not to get into to much information I use different cloud based storage systems that I save all my files to. When I’m on my Pi I can call up anything I needs from Spreadsheets and word documents that I have saved from different computers including the Pi I also do photo editing using my Pi’s. because I’m working on different projects all the time having a computer that can be setup almost anywhere has it advances. Most people don’t realize that the Pi is just as powerful as any modern day tablet or even any low cost laptop. If you haven’t already picked up one yet you can get Raspberry Pi 4 2GB model and it will run the same as the 4 & 8 GB model. Just remember to get a case with a fan for it at the start.

[@buzzword4388]

I bought the 8gb version because of this channel.. running it overclocked with a big TV, using a PNY 128 GB SSD, latest 32-bit Raspberry PI OS.. it's not dropping frames at 1280x768p, temps are 42-49 degrees C with extended use, using an aluminum case with two GPIO fans from PiShop. With a bit of tweaking here and there, I've now got a very nice desktop PC.. will look to do some programming projects in the near future. I ran the latest Ubuntu too, on the MicroSD... still haven't got it to run via USB/SSD. Thanks for the great videos!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks for watching, and sharing your experience here.

[@World_Theory]

(Fair warning: I don't say much of importance in the following comment.) Once the 64bit OS version comes out of beta, it might ge just what I need. I recently revived my old desktop computer that was sold in 2007 or 08, and it has a bunch of issues with compatibility with modern … everything. It was actually a fairly high end computer when sold at the time, but now it just … a fancy calculator. It's sound card isn't detected at all. There's some issue with the videocard which was actually a newer (relatively) addition, that locks the screen resolution to 640 by 480 and 73fps exactly. The card is an Nvidia GTS 450. And then I have a separate but related issue that none of the available monitors I have can use HDMI as an input. (There's a TV that technically has the ports for it, but something's wrong with the board in the TV, so only the VGA input works. That's actually why I have it, it wouldn't connect with a Roku's output, so it got given to me.) The computer also has just shy of 4GB of RAM. And the upgrade slots for installing new video cards and suchlike are version 2, x16 pins. (Forgot the proper name of the slot. But I could look it up again if needed.) So even with forwards compatibility built in, data transfer speeds will still be limited to the version 2 standard. So… While I have some video, and no sound, and barely adequate RAM, and a very early Intel 4 core processor, it's just a pain to use. Oh! I forgot to mention the mouse! I'm using a ball mouse. Without a scroll wheel. Though it does have a middle mouse button which lets me pan windows by holding down and dragging. I have spent a considerable amount of time changing settings and messing around with different desktop environments, to get a UI with compact enough buttons and text, to use properly with my 640x480 screen resolution. It's appalling how many programs UI aren't built to allow the window to be resized small enough to fit inside a 680x480 area, especially system settings windows. Sorry about the rant. I think I just needed to get that off my chest. But anyway, in summary, even if this Raspberry 4 8GB was by chance less computationally powerful than my ~12 year old computer, it should still be able to manage to give me a screen large enough to see things on, and to bless my ears with beautiful sound, which I have been missing dearly. And to top it off, it might have a chance of having more accessible RAM than my old computer, eventually. I'll still be using LXQT for my desktop environment though. (I've never used Raspbian, but it looked like it might already be using either LXQT or LXDE, judging by the Task Manager's process name.) Thanks for the video!

[@GiulianoMazzina]

I just bought one finally because of the 64bit os being available now. I have an old unused SSD ready for booting to and ya, time to start tinkering. Maybe I'll try a USB gigabit ethernet port and see if it can run Pfsense.

[@garrypkeogh]

So today, June 18th I updated and upgraded as you suggested and there is a new version of bootloader listed in the "Stable" folder on my Raspberry Pi. This not only installs OK but has the USB boot included in what is now a stable release, hopefully for ever more! Things move fast it seems in content production. Thanks for the help Chris!

[@ExplainingComputers]

This is great to know -- things keep moving fast indeed! :)

[@oscarl-b8870]

Good to see the pi continuing to evolve! I’m still using a 2B, running ADS-B flight tracking ✈️

[@sethrd999]

Hope your using a decent collinear antenna for best results ;).

[@W1ldTangent]

My OG 256MB Model B is still running a stratum-1 NTP server that I am mad enough to put in the public pool...

[@andrewg1969]

can i just say a big thank you for several reasons , 1 i have been putting off getting a 4 because of the heating issues and i was reassured by one of your great videos that they had fixed that 2 this video showing me how to boot from a usb which eliminates the sd card problems

[@AdamReakesHerdMentality]

So, I've already done it... now I need to see if I Chris did it better. (He probably does, and with a video to cover it off.)

[@ExplainingComputers]

See my comment in the video description . . . :)

[@JeanBrito666]

Im using the beta version since May and is working very well. USB Boot is a must to Raspberries.

[@jonmahashintina]

looks like a saucy interview full of gossip and bombshells.

[@kirknelson156]

been running my pi 4 as a NAS using open media vault and 2 usb 3 drives, and very happy with its performance

[@JimHendrickson]

USB boot is certainly an exciting development, though I'll probably wait for the non-beta release. It would be interesting to see a performance comparison on boot times over the SSD vs the micro SD.

[@jerryd8022]

Thank you for this. I would've given up and not even thought about testing a thumb drive to confirm USB boot worked at all. It did. I just bought a different cable brand and now have HassOS installed and running beautifully on the new 8GB! Much appreciated dude!!!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Great to hear!

[@StefanRachev]

So i have this project in mind about a box for dry-aging and cureing some meat delicateses... I will need a refrigerator, or a some other coolng solution(I really like those with a window on the door), a fan to put inside, a hunidifier and a dehumidifier. Then there goes the RaspberryPi, with 8 channel relay and DHT22 sensor.... The idea is, to keep the temperature and humidity within some parameters, and the fan to help circulating the air... And in some point to start an apache server with a simple php script, to be able to control it from a distance... Further away in the future of havingall that done, i will add a 7" touch, some led lights, and a camera to create timelapses of the whole cureing process. All that being said, i need to do the math, if th GPIO will be enough to control all of that. (And to finish the total renovation of my apartment)

[@k.b.tidwell]

Finally! Chris has illuminated that feeling that working with certain older technology gives me...it's "reassuring". I'll add "relaxing" and "blissful" at times.

[@ExplainingComputers]

:)

[@Ubaldo..]

Raspberry Pi is changing the world . I don't talk or inform myself anymore about windows. I find Linux funnier

[@hasansalim1868]

Happy to buy this model. Didn't know it can boot from a USB till I watched this video. Thanks Chris for your efforts.

[@stevenlischer]

All of this is neat, but I've never seen the Pi as a desktop replacement and I'm a little worried the Pi Foundation is pushing too hard in that direction. I love the Pi because its a great integrated computer for robotics and controls hobbyists and I hope they don't forget that. Would love to see things like integrated ADCs, realtime clocks, CANbus/ISObus, or an FPGA onboard.

[@markconger8049]

With the Pi 4 8GB (aka Pi 4.8) I’ve been having some fun with a ramdisk (disk drive in memory) doing various networking tests. It saves wear and tear on the SD media. Also, I just finished installing Ubuntu 20.04 LTS 64-bit and then installed MATE desktop on it. The 8 gigs of memory brings new opportunities into this little board. I’ve opted (for now) to sit out the USB boot while it’s in early beta.

[@heinrichkeyser4217]

I totally agree, the fact that we can boot from usb is way more exciting than the 8GB RAM.

[@MichelMorinMontreal]

Greetings! It must be acknowledged that over the past year, our colleagues at Raspberry have been surprising us with constantly renewed and highly "competitive" components in the SBC field. With the huge community attached to it, it is becoming increasingly difficult to avoid becoming "Raspberry attached"! Thanks - of course - for this brillant presentation.

[@tbernesto0912]

As Always, a Very Professional Work Describing how Technology Interacts. Thank You Chris.. !!!

[@guilhermeserpa690]

Hi, Mr Barnatt. I am new to your channel. By far the best KZbin channel ever made. I have started rebooting my old computers, updating firmwares, things like that. Soooo exciting, to just bring an EeePc back to life! Cheers!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Welcome aboard!

[@Derfikjegdig]

The price difference to jump to the 8GB version seems unreasonable, especially without proper 64-bit support. Makes some of the other SBCs more attractive for applications that needs that much RAM. But thanks again for making these videos showing us what is possible.

[@tzokke]

Are there any good non arm based SBCs with similar price and performance as the 4gb pi 4?

8GB ram cost £30.

[@jsimmonstx]

What other SBC's are available with 8GB of RAM in this price range?

[@autohmae]

the 64-bit is on the way, it's in beta, give it time

[@krzysztofkot8427]

I think the first thing they should make is usb boot 100% sure without "it can damage your board"

[@steveshadowphoto9346]

Chris, I was inspired by your video so I bought myself a Western Digital M.2 120gb and followed along. You'll be happy to know that it worked! Me and my Raspberry PI thank you!

[@ExplainingComputers]

This is great to hear! :)

[@waynenewark5363]

I must admit I like to see boot messages as an indication that something is happening. If the start-up sticks you are soon aware of it. I have installed both Nagios and COPS on a headless Raspberry Pi3.

[@larrywebber2971]

I purchased a 4 GB Pi about a month ago and am very pleased with its capabilities. My uses of this Pi are: for use as a general purpose desktop, software development platform (including LXC/D and Docker containers), and experimenting with different available OSes. So far I've run the stable 32 bit Raspberry PI OS, the 64 bit beta version, and 64 bit Ubuntu core (with the XFCE desktop). Experimenting with different OSes has always interested me on Intel architecture and now I can do this on my Raspberry Pi 4 with its ARM architecture. IMO the Pi 4 provides a lot of capability and versatility for $55.00 US as well as a platform to learn and grow with in whatever direction I want to pursue. I'm on a waiting list for the 8 GB model.

[@ExplainingComputers]

It sounds like you are really embracing he philosphy of Pi -- great for experimenting as you say.

[@Electromakerio]

Eagle-eyed Raspberry Pi fans would have noticed that information on the 8GB version was leaked on compliance leaflet of the Raspberry Pi 4! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZiuZppuoNKNbac

[@ronaldronald8819]

Hi Chris. The RP4 i use for home automation (home assistant). You can imagine how happy i was with the news that the PI4 is now capable of booting from usb.

[@paullandry6573]

Another Sunday another great video. Thank you sir. BTW, whenever I wear my Mister Scissors shirt in public I get asked if I am a barber. LOL.

[@d3vastat0r89]

You always make these tricks so accessible!!! That's the main reason I was really looking forward to this video. I've tried configuring my SSD for USB boot before using all the commands other tutorials recommend but it would not find the SSD for some reason. I was able to boot from USB using an SD card reader though. Now to try this method and report back.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Good luck! It may be that the SSD USB adapter you were using is not compatible with the beta firmware.

[@d3vastat0r89]

@@ExplainingComputers I think you might be right. The SSD ejected itself before it could finish copying. It's an Orico adapter (for those who want to know what to avoid), but I've seen it used successfully in another tutorial. :/ Maybe something's wrong with this one specifically.

[@IrishRasta]

Congratulations on the feature Chris :)

[@Colin_Ames]

Excellent video. I must say, it doesn’t seem like a year since the release of the pi4. How time flies. I don’t have one yet, but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time. Still running a 3b with Retropie at present, plus a version 1 that I used to extract EEPROM data from an original Xbox.

[@cx3268]

My desktop PC is a Win7 machine. Hope to completely replace it.

[@rogerkoh1979]

Indeed booting from USB is great event. Big storage is required as people run more stuff. The long awaited 64bit os. Something to look out for. Another great show.

[@perrymcclusky4695]

What would I like to do with a Pi 4? I'd like to put it (along with an ssd drive) in a standard desktop PC case. Not because it's practical, but just for the novelty of it all. Actually, if one had an old gutted mainframe, that would even be better. "Welcome to my room where I have my Raspberry Pi 4 running." Surreal.

[@JuusoAlasuutari]

Dude. Love the mainframe idea.

[@perrymcclusky4695]

Juuso Alasuutari Thanks. The mainframe has been in the back of my mind since way back when I dug an old IBM PC out of the trash. Actually thought of taking a tall filing cabinet and making it look like a small mainframe. Thanks again for your comment!

[@drmoseley]

I use my RPi4 as a backup for my "big" Windows-10 PC. Also, my original Pi was used to build a Stratux ADS-B receiver, which I now headlessly connect via WiFi to the RPi4. Additionally, it serves as my web server sandbox and learning platform.

[@ahoj113]

Great video as always :). But, couldn’t you boot rpi from usb before? By the way, I looked at the interview ;).

[@ExplainingComputers]

You could boot a Pi 3 from USB, but this is the first time a Pi 4 has been USB bootable. :)

[@ahoj113]

ExplainingComputers oh, okay :)

Perfect. Now I don't need an SD card and the 4B boots from a 250gb drive! Excellent!

And now the Pi can't trash my MicroSD cards! That's a huge bonus!

[@JayzBeerz]

Using the Argon M.2 case can you boot from the M.2 SSD? Thank you.

[@c101vp]

I think so, don't have a pi yet so I can't test it.

[@harrytsang1501]

My top spec Pi 1 with 512MB of RAM is still serving its purpose. The tiny power draw is one of the best feature.

[@dr.horror138]

waiting for a new chip, now I’ll buy my first raspberry pi

[@billrichard9730]

Be sure to look at other videos on what to do with it. Lots of versitile things. P,us free online magazines

[@tinkmarshino]

Well I have already done all I ever wanted with a pi.. from adding an ssd hard drive to a model 3b and putting movies on it for the bedroom to using one as a small research computer in my shop.. But now I will have to make some better things with the 4.. after this project I am on it will be next.. (I am remodeling the house) Thanks Chris for keeping us posted on all the coolness out there.. carry on, and take care..

[@dustinsippel1845]

Watching this on a pi4 8GB, overclocked and running ubuntu. Nice...

[@ExplainingComputers]

:)

[@W1ldTangent]

I purchased an 8GB the same day it was released and immediately installed Ubuntu Server on it, it replaced a 4GB that was already running 18.04. Couldn't get 18.04 to boot out of the box, but an 18.04 rootfs with 20.04 bootloader sorta worked, though the mismatched kernel and modules prevented LXC from starting.Trying to boot with the 20.04 bootloader using 18.04 kernel and rootfs didn't work at all. Ended up just installing a clean 20.04, and importing all the containers and VMs from the 4GB server. It now runs most of my critical containers (RADIUS, DNS, Git repo, internal proxy), and a couple VMs providing Samba, NFS, and TFTP shares for a few things here and there at home. I haven't even reached 50% RAM usage yet, it can definitely handle more.

[@and3583]

I'm interested in using Pi4 as a desktop pc, because I like Linux but so far every time I've converted a Windows machine to Linux I've found that after a while I can't upgrade to new versions and ended up with a brick... so the idea of using a Pi4 which is designed to run Raspbian appeals a lot. At present I have a 2gb Pi4 running basic web tasks very well!

[@autohmae]

can't upgrade ? what problems were you having ?

[@iscariotproject]

@@autohmae im guessing he used feodora it breaks aftera few upgrades horrible os for daily machine

[@harrychatwin]

You can just tell that Christopher is a really nice and wholesome person just by the way he commentates his videos. Thank you Christopher for all these awesome videos, I really enjoy watching them and they're my favourite source of updates from all these pieces of hardwares and softwares. Have a nice day!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks for your kind feedback, appreciated. :)

[@harrychatwin]

@@ExplainingComputersNo problem. :)

[@seanpduffyeng]

Hi, new to Pi's, does the Pi run trim on ssd's ? Thinking about options for a project. Cheers

[@ExplainingComputers]

An interesting question that I currently have no answer for . . ..

[@abchk22]

It depends on the SSD (Sata or NVMe) to USB adapter. Some support. Usually its mentioned in the product description.

[@ConfuSomu]

Reading the Raspberry Pi forums, I've found this topic reply addressing the use of TRIM: www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=275187&p=1671542&hilit=ssd+trim#p1671542 Hope that helps someone!

[@autohmae]

@@ConfuSomu why not mount with discard option ?

[@glennedgar5057]

I own an avocado farm in Southern California. I use raspberry pi's to monitor and control the irrigation and other operations. With the 4G and now 8G models, I can use software that normally runs on a cloud in my control system. These systems include Redis, Flask webserver, Private BlockChain Nodes, pandas, and SQL database. Also, software components are written in docker containers The high-end Pi's allow cloud operations to come to the edge. .

[@ExplainingComputers]

What a fantastic Pi application.

[@johnblack6134]

I love avocados. I have just now successfully grown a plant from the pip. It has developed it's first thorn. Now back to copying my sd card to my ssd. After many failed attempts I hope that it boots this time.

[@poppedweasel]

Aaargh, I've got to go out now, until thiis evening. Can't wait!

[@ExplainingComputers]

The video will be waiting for you. :)

[@PWBERRETT]

Hi Chris. I'm just getting into Astrophotography and have recently bought a telescope. I will use the RPI4 with the HQ camera to run Astropi and Stellarium. This will mean I can access the Pi remotely using VNC, point my telescope by controlling it's mount remotely as well as take photos and video remotely. I can then take those pictures and video to stack and process and get pretty pictures of nebulae, galaxies etc.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Sounds very cool. :)

[@SouravTechLabs]

2 GB RAM + 2 GB ZRAM + Archlinux ARM 🔥🔥🔥

[@philipstaite4775]

I have two Pi 4Bs - a 1GB and a 4GB model. I'm using the 4GB as a desktop replacement. Well, for day-to-day routine stuff. I still have a Linux PC with a bigger CPU & memory for some things. The 1GB I use as a portable PC - mostly in our camper along with a USB stick loaded with movies. Both have passive cooling heatsink/cases.

[@bensekh]

This is what I waiting for...

[@ExplainingComputers]

Glad to hear it!

[@sethrd999]

Why?, the extra memory is not a performance booster in the way you think.

[@stevetobias4890]

I want them to include SATA connectivity like the banana pi and orange pi. Then it would be the definite winner of them all, not that it isn't already but why can knockoffs include SATA and the raspberry still hasn't a few releases later

[@williamhorton9763]

🥈

[@stevetobias4890]

@@josephtremblant2173 this is an expansion board, it should be on the mainboard with an option to boot to SATA

[@henntendo]

Was busy today, so I’m just sitting down for my favourite time of the week! A new ExplainingComputers video!

[@ChrisShadowens]

G'morning, Stanley! ☕🙂

[@ExplainingComputers]

He says "hello". He is shy and cannot type here himself.

[@6581punk]

@@ExplainingComputers He'd only damage the keyboard if he did.

[@JROwensPhotos]

What, you think he can't cut it here in comments?

[@Pygar2]

@@JROwensPhotos Pity. He's never dull...!

[@resrussia]

Thanks for a great video on the new 8 GB Raspberry Pi. Your channel is a great place to keep up to date on the developments. I think the Raspberry Pi 4 with 8 GB with 64-bit operating system will be a game changer and bring the Pi more into the mainstream. I thinking about getting one for my dad for simple email and web surfering as the video back looks relatively good and with a SSD (after the firmware is out of beta). As always, keep up the good work!

[@KayvonJavid]

It would be interesting to start building your own laptop, tablet with SBC's albeit a little clunky.

[@lutzfechner3428]

@J Fz Or you go for the Pinebook Pro.

[@PilotAtInception]

There’s also the Pi-Top [1], [3] and Ceed

[@1nONLY_DRock]

This look goods! I was going to buy a Raspberry Pi as a video game system, but now I want to make a cyberdeck and a desktop replacement for writing. I think in a couple generations, as they keep adding functionality options and more software companies see the merit of making software for the Pi, they could have a serious desktop PC that's perfectly usable for basic business and educational purposes, all for under $100 a unit! There'd be resistance because office workers want their Microsoft Office and Quickbooks, but otherwise it would be a gamechanger.

Why do thy use code on the memory chips instead of 2gyg, 4gyg and 8 gyg.

[@atanaskirilov6470]

These time i will post a comment about my future RPi plans, as you encouraged me to do in the end of your great video Sir. Currently I am running a RPi4 with a 4GB of RAM as my main desktop PC, and two RPi model 3s. One of them I am using for a Nextcloud server installed under Raspberry Pi OS on RPi3B+ running directly from an external HDD with 1GB of capacity. The other is running from an SD card, installed with Open Media Vault server, and I have attached an external HDD with a 4TB capacity on it, for a NAS. I am planning to upgrade the RPi4 with an external SSD to boot from, when the official firmware arrive. And I am planning to buy two new RPi4 boards with 2 GB of RAM to replace the current RPi3’s which I am using for servers. And all of this is possible thanks to your great videos Sir. I am following ExplainingComputers with great passion an interest. Thank you for your great videos.

[@ExplainingComputers]

This is all great to hear! :) Thanks for sharing.

[@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346]

Well I Just Bought A New 8gb Pi+ To Use As My New DIY CNC Combo Wood Router + Laser Cut Machines Softwares Computer + Shop's Full Time Server To Network With My BigBoy Master Tower System & Beyond... LOL Thanks

[@ExplainingComputers]

Now this is serious Pi 4 application! Respect.

[@gamefly00730]

I think I may take a plunge into RaspPi this winter. I've dabbled with Linux over the years, but never really had the time, space and PC's to experiment with. THANKs for the Video and also, for everyone's comments. The enthusiasm is infectious.

[@ExplainingComputers]

The Pi is a great Linux learning platform -- and a nice Winter pursuit! :)

[@saturno_tv]

Simply the best stuff of all. Never fails!

[@CreatewithTech]

I'm new to Pi...have two of them now (a 2gig and 4gig). I'm using them with Octoprint to control 2 Ender 3, 3d printers. I love this technology. It's a playground for hacker-minded people like myself. Thanks for another great video. RG

[@stevetobias4890]

When will raspberry pi get around to including SATA headers.

[@josephtremblant2173]

Get a PC

[@richardwernst]

@@josephtremblant2173 Not helpful, if you don't have something nice and/or helpful to say, don't say anything at all.

[@1nONLY_DRock]

Forgive me if I'm a noob, but what about the pins that are already on the Pi4 board? Can they be adapted?

[@kingneutron1]

@@1nONLY_DRock wiki.radxa.com/Dual_Quad_SATA_HAT#:~:text=ROCK%20Pi%20Dual%2FQuad%20SATA,inch%20or%203.5inch%20SSD shop.allnetchina.cn/products/dual-sata-hat-open-frame-for-raspberry-pi-4 LMGTFY " sata hat for pi "

[@cdsmith]

That doesn't give the Pi real SATA ports. It's just another USB3 to SATA adapter.

[@Hombre1968]

I've just found this channel and I think it's excellent - well done and please keep producing such informative videos, it's like being 12 years old with my BBC Model B again!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Welcome aboard!