Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

[@markdonnelly1913]

It is very sad when my old laptop takes longer to open GIMP than a $15 SBC. It really shows how far these little champions have come

[@ThylineTheGay]

i dare you to get one and use it as your main pc

[@Sk-hp8im]

@@ThylineTheGay "Can you survive using a 15$ SBC for a whole week?" Sounds like a youtube idea.

[@ristekostadinov2820]

@@ThylineTheGay i wonder if 6-7years old 32bit ubuntu will work smoothly lol

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

@@ristekostadinov2820 Considering this is a 64-bit SoC, I doubt it. Otherwise, yes, a lightweight Linux distro will probably work well.

[@mjdxp5688]

@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart I bet you could get alright at best performance on AntiX, as long as you don't do much on it.

[@jm036]

So it's basically a Pi 3 A in Zero form factor. Really nice upgrade still.

[@fatherelijahcal9620]

And a lower price.

[@BastetFurry]

Hmm, i wonder if the PiStorm Amiga Accelerator will work with this. Turbo Amiga just got its price cut in half. 😁

[@johndripper]

yaay

[@ATechGuy-mp6hn]

Underclocked cpu and only 512mb of ram

[@trilight3597]

And I recently bought two 3A+ models...rip lol

[@idowebwork]

So much more power in a tiny board. Love it. Definitely can see a few projects the new Pi 2W can be used in here.

[@MM0XET]

What’s all this, midweek EC. Another good one Chris

[@ExplainingComputers]

Back to normal on Sunday!

[@BradClarke]

You know something big is happening when you check your phone in the morning midweek and see videos from EC, Jeff Geerling, ETAPRIME, and RaspberryPi!

[@RyanStone143]

@@BradClarke Very true, my notifications were lit up!

[@BilisNegra]

Guess this launch was too much breaking news to fit into the regular schedule.

[@ExplainingComputers]

@@BilisNegra Correct!

[@StayHungry41]

What a little powerhouse! For $15 USD that's an absolutely insane value. Great demonstration as usual Chris, anytime I get a notification for an EC video I know I'm going to be in for a treat!

[@cezarribeiro311]

Ohhh mann, so true!!

[@sikkepossu]

And now six months later the price is almost 100$. That's also insane.

[@Tuskengod]

*scalper42069420 has entered the chat*

[@dreammfyre]

Wow, a lot more computing power for the same price? Is this real life? That feels like an eternity ago on the PC market. Remember when GPUs used to be like this back in the day? You basically got last gens top card performance on the current low cost cards. Now, 150€ gets you roughly the same performance as 3-4 years ago. It’s a travesty and it’s holding back the whole market right now.

[@SuperDavidEF]

A Raspberry Pi 3 is more powerful than the Lenovo laptop my Manager bought for my area just last year when our old HP laptop quit on us due to hdd failure.

[@draco5991rep]

Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landside, No escape from reality Open your eyes, Look up to the skies and see, I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy, Because I'm easy come, easy go, Little high, little low, Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to Me, to me (Bohemian Raspberry - Queen)

[@TheUtuber999]

It's Moore's Law.

[@Cons-Cat]

@@TheUtuber999 Was gonna say the same thing. Although there are hardware features like Turing ray tracing / queries to consider. I also think OP is severely exaggerating, at least as far as scientific / machine learning GPU performance goes.

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

Not that much of a travesty, it can be a good thing. If computing power advances faster, then your gear becomes obsolete faster. A big reason why a 10 year old PC is still viable is because spec bumps have gotten smaller over the years. That's good for the environment and your wallet. Old PCs can still be used.

[@zetaconvex1987]

Pretty sweet, actually. For when Pi 4 is overkill, and you want a Pi 3 in a small form factor at half the price. I imagine that this will be quite popular.

[@wimwiddershins]

Great news, Ive been waiting for a processor upgrade in the Zero form factor. RP3 level was more than expected, well done Pi foundation!

[@cezarribeiro311]

Well done indeed!!

[@-someone-.]

Your channel and 3 others all uploaded this at literally the same time🤣 great time to watch in Australia ! Just before dinner! I bet there’s a whole series coming on this new Pi🙏

[@edwin3928ohd]

We always talk about how much power we have in our smartphones these days compared to even what took people to the moon. But for the price, this is truly astonishing computing power when looked at in a historical perspective.

[@janklas7079]

To get the computing power of the average mobile phone in 1970, one would have needed multiple buildings and then still wouldn't get there.

[@edwin3928ohd]

@@contradictorycrow4327 wut

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

@@edwin3928ohd computers that ran bit and byte operations were the size of refrigerators . super computers were a mega byte of processing power. they used tape storage like a massive vcr

[@folksurvival]

No people have been to the moon though, that's science fiction fantasy.

[@dancooper6002]

Its not as impressive as we like to think. Those old computers were strictly business, and run by highly educated, dedicated men who extracted every last ounce of useful processing from them. They didn't waste resources on video etc. that modern devices do. Modern devices are vastly more powerful, but vastly more wasteful of that power, so they don't end up running as fast in relative terms as many comparisons like to portray. Worse, most of them are used for social media rather than any meaningfully productive purpose.

[@PenryMMJ]

Always great to see a new model from Raspberry Pi. Due to their low prices though, I now have more SBCs than any reasonable person could ever need.......and I've just ordered one

[@angkhoavo8004]

Finally, a newer generation after so many years! But I just got the 8gb Pi 4 already, maybe I'll get it in the future.

[@singletona082]

The way I see it, different use cases. How's the pi4 treating you?

[@stephenlee5929]

Hi, Just wondering how its power consumption compares with the old Pi zero w. Nice board, great video.

[@SuperDavidEF]

Go to the Jeff Geerling channel. He also does a review of this new Pi, and does compare the power usage.

[@markwarburton8563]

The new RPi Zero W2 is 64-bit, unlike its predecessor. I hope you will be comparing the 32-bit O/S versus the 64-bit O/S as well in your future tests.

[@alexisrivera200xable]

This is pretty great. Looking forward to trying this one out for projects. Thanks for the video!

[@wasitacatisaw83]

Woo, bonus Thursday video! And to top it off, an SBC video. Thanks Chris!

[@basildza]

Would be nice to see a comparison between a zero 2 Vs a 3 A+. Cause the zero 2 is at half the price (and size) and so should be the natural choice for plenty of projects that currently use the 3A+. I just purchased the 3A+ for a robot cause the Zero W wasn't fast enough for what I was doing. Really wish I had waited a few more days.

[@andrasbiro6604]

I almost bought a pi zero yesterday... I ordered my pi zero 2 today

[@tonyhawk123]

I second that request. It should be a little slower, but by how much…

[@gefriernudel3004]

i agree. It seems to me the Zero 2 stole the place of the 3a+.

[@Rody_le_Cid]

I was thinking the same.. it seems like the new Zero 2 will kind of compete with the pi3s but much cheaper, lower power and smaller form factor.

[@PatrickConstant]

I just compare sysbench on PI 3 A+ and PI400/PI4. The command "sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=5000 --num-threads=4 run" was executed in 14.770 sec on PI 3 A+ but 7.24 on PI400.

[@basman9362]

I'd love to see a variant with 1GB of RAM and USB Type-C ports for data and power. Data can still be transferred with USB 2, but you would only need one cable type at home.

[@SergiuszRoszczyk]

That would be cool (especially RAM), but on the other hand this one is a drop in replacement. Changing any port would render most accessories and projects obsolete.

[@SergiuszRoszczyk]

@@contradictorycrow4327 I'm not an advocate for Pi Foundation I actually don't care about USB-C. This is so broken standard that in a solution, where you need more power than uC but a power budget and price must be kept down I don't have any problem with it. I power my Pi Zeros through gpio in such cases. If they will create new small form factor or Pi Zero replacement I'd be complaining about lack of micro hdmi or normal hdmi, USB-C with 3.0 and 1 GB of RAM. And maybe 5 GHz networking. But it will not be 15 USD then...

[@maxxdahl6062]

Those upgrades would defeat the purpose of it being $15 though, but I would love to see it too.

[@mawamatakama5150]

Thank you so much Mr Barnatt, I have been waiting for this for years.

[@ExplainingComputers]

As have we all! :)

[@Uniblab8]

Always nice to have a bonus video mid-week.

[@ShakilShahadat]

Curious to see, 1. Single thread performance 2. Overclocking performance 3. Thermal performance.

[@kr15uk]

Yeah, should have done sysbench with one core to see core by core comparison

[@chriswebber5254]

In the sysbench results “Total time taken by event execution” Zero:87.4, Zero2:64.8. Approximately 23 seconds difference.

[@mhcox55]

Thanks for asking my questions. An interesting application would be running Home Assistant on the Pi Zero W vs. 2 W. Maybe a good next EC video on the 2 W?

[@johnbee1574]

I thought I was at work on a Sunday but it’s an extra video. This pi is just what I’m looking for :)

[@macromage]

Oooooh new Chris content, todays been a great day

[@jakraziel]

I'm glad the Pi foundation are willing to send you this.

[@sonic2000gr]

The difference in boot time is impressive. Though it won't make much of a difference for me. I am using a zero 1W coupled with a USB FM transmitter to relay radio Caroline to my FM radios around the house. Using command line VLC (cvlc) and no GUI on the PI. I will still consider getting the new zero for some cool projects.

[@djazz0]

What USB FM transmitter do you use? I have used Adafruit’s breakout FM transmitter but it’s not the easiest to use and connect

[@yash1152]

8:23 yeah

[@era7928]

@@yash1152 it will kind of running 24x7. With the usb fm transmitter, the power usage will not hit over 3 watt at my best guess.

[@chlorobyte_projects]

I don't think the RAM will be such an issue for use cases where you'd want such a low power SBC. Since you aren't likely to run desktop applications and any high end workflows on it (for that, get the 4B instead, it has up to 8GB RAM), it'll be mostly fine for tasks such as a file server, retro emulation (up to N64) or just media playback. Being the brains of a robot isn't exactly RAM intensive, either.

[@gefriernudel3004]

i bet many will use it for OctoPrint

[@francocavecchia8246]

N64 is definitely out of the equation, not even the RPI4 B can handle the emulator smoothly enough (save for a few titles).

[@martinkuhk]

Agree. I’ve been using Pi zero W for VPN and SSH tunnelling and the Pi zero uses no more than 100 mb of ram.

[@gefriernudel3004]

@@francocavecchia8246 and there are people believing Pi4 could run Gamecube lol

[@francocavecchia8246]

@@gefriernudel3004 well, cant blame people trying to be optimistic on emulation progress over the last few years. But sometimes a reality check is an absolute must before letting expectations kill a brand new product whose main purpose isnt DIY arcade machines.

[@heyarno]

I tested video encoding(dvd to h264) in handbrake on the zero W and zero 2 W. The new zero is at least 30 times faster. So the micro architecture improvements are rather substantial. Kdenlive suffers from the small ram, so I didn't test that much.

[@cezarribeiro311]

DAmn, 30 TIMES FASTER - well, that's what's called an improvement!

[@ylanstockholm]

Cheers for yet another informative video! Speaking of Pi Zero projects. I would love for you to take a look att headless installation and setup. I don't think I'm the only one who never wants to run a GUI or connect a screen to my Raspberry Pi. Which distro is best if you don't need or want a GUI. Humbly, Ylan

[@loughkb]

I bet the guys that like to build tiny emulation boxes, like in a gameboy form factor, will love these. Hand held 'gameboy' that plays Amiga, C64, and Atari ST games among others? Sure. Nifty!

[@maxxdahl6062]

That's exactly what I do but not in a gameboy form factor. Just a really tiny box for my tv so that the entire unit takes up very little shelf space.

[@lexluthermiester]

An ExplainingComputers video on a Thursday? What a surprise but what madness is this? Great video as usual though!

[@ExplainingComputers]

It is madness indeed! :) I've been bewildered by it all day.

[@lexluthermiester]

@@ExplainingComputers Honestly, I saw it show up in my subscriptions feed and had to stop and check the calendar. It was a funny moment!

[@Ollital]

In the times before the internet. A boy would have been walking in the streets shouting "Explaining Computers - Special Edition - Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W announced!"

[@spiders-tours]

Already Sunday, that was one hell of weekend! Excellent new Pi, thanks for the review Chris.

[@willi4242]

Thank you for this interesting update - order for a Zero 2 W is out - looking forward to it!

[@willi4242]

BTW I use the zero as a camera-module with motion - there the 4 cores will come in very handy! the old zero was maxed out at CPU 100% very often...

[@matteocassino3172]

And as always: Yet a new very instructive and excellent presented comparison. Thx Chris!

[@Brainstorm4300]

Hi Chris! Great video as usual. I was wondering if you've tested any RISC-V SBC and maybe compared them to ARM SBCs. If not, do you have any planned in the future? Thanks and take care.

[@ExplainingComputers]

I hope to look at (low cost) RISC-V SBCs when they arrive -- I think now first quarter 2022.

[@haziqsembilanlima]

@@ExplainingComputers is there any planned RISC V SBC? all I see are just microcontrollers

[@ExplainingComputers]

@@haziqsembilanlima I am aware of two in the works . . .

[@haziqsembilanlima]

@@ExplainingComputers interesting. I'd like to see if it uses device tree like ARM boards that makes some, if not many things harder

[@brianthorburn4957]

Great to see you during the week 😊

[@knutblaise9437]

So much faster! With the holidays around the corner I was thinking of acquiring a Roku 4K but was hoping there might be an SBC you could recommend which would play videos as well as a Roku 4K using a Linux distro.

[@Martial-Mat]

Your presentation is superb; extremely clear, and the yellow popups really help. Thank you.

[@allenellisdewitt]

Maybe someone's said this, but video idea: Take an old laptop, and replace the insides with a battery & a Pi Zero 2. It'd be a way to keep the screen/keyboard/housing from getting to the landfill for a bit longer. NO idea how hard it'd be to wire all that up, myself.

[@charlese2833]

May be good for running pfsense, or a tiny NAS ? Need 4gb to do a useful laptop.

[@daveb6722]

I have never thought of that, Ime going to drag an laptop out and see if I can put a Pi4 in it. Thanks for the idea.

[@АлексейДмитриев-ш1ф]

The final product will not make any sense. 1. RPis are not very energy efficient as they should be. Basically, any not very old laptop can idle at lower power than RPi4. Don't know about RPiZ2. 2. Really need to have x86 to RPi comparison. I doubt RPiZ2 can beat C2D/C2Q or Atom z8350, no need to say about modern ones. So replacing board with RPi will make the machine slower. 3. It will be hard and expensive to make proper IO connectors placement. 4. Just don't make things go to landfill. Sell or give things that you don't need anymore. There are plenty of people that will be happy to have an old laptop for free. Reuse, not recycle.

[@whothefoxcares]

@@BruceLortzHI Red Shirt Jeff can cut your cables to ANY LENGTH!

[@JonnyInfinite]

A super thin laptop case for the Pi is actually a great idea. Not for the Zero, but the regular one, as swapping out essentially the motherboard (the Pi) every 4 years for a new one will massively reduce ewaste. A generic 1080p screen is good enough for a 13 inch laptop. I reckon they could make it for £60

[@anthonymccarthy4164]

I should be asleep, insomnia, but finding this video makes it worth losing sleep.

[@Easiermarlin33]

Nice review and benchmarks! This is definitely going to replace my zero w retro games emulation station

[@dark_jaws]

I was a little surprised to see a video today by you

[@realdragonrude]

can't wait to see projects like a custom retro handheld come from this board

[@jyvben1520]

see jeff geerling, has made a new retropie handheld based on Zero2

[@nyeti7759]

If the form factor including test pads is the same - and it looks like it is, near as damn it - it'll fit nicely into existing designs. I'm now seriously considering a Zero 2 W as an upgrade for my RasPiBoy.

[@brobone1719]

Chris, the lighting in this video makes you look heavenly, nice video.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Yes, it is a different look! :) I had a green board in a reflective, translucent bag. So not a good subject to hold up infront of a greenscreen, or even a bluescreen. So for once I shot against strongly lit white! Back to normal on Sunday.

[@superduperman7202]

Open university vibes always

[@PS_Tube]

Mid week EC video is a gift. And above all, this video is a Pi video which is cherry on top. Nice to witness how powerful the SBCs are becoming.

[@k.b.tidwell]

Chris you make these in-depth detailed comparisons with obviously lots and lots of background research and prep appear as effortless as me pulling up my socks.

[@BrianUnderwoodCodes]

Thanks for this! Would be great to see the sysbench results on the new 2W limited to one core to directly compare the single-core performance of the new CPU against the old

[@lucius1976]

Use my Zero mainly as cameras - so RAM is not an issue. Increased processing speed is nice. Only thing i really would have liked on it is Gigabit Ethernet. Question is how is power consumption in comparison? Or Wifi speeds?

[@jyvben1520]

Jeff Geerling has tested with usb ethernet and speed is higher ...

[@SuperDavidEF]

@@jyvben1520 He also tested the power consumption.

[@perrymcclusky4695]

I got to have one! Please, please, please do a heat and cooling comparison between the two Pi Zeros. I am looking forward to what hobbyists use this new Zero for. Looking forward to your next video!

[@BastetFurry]

10:46, you should have done a single core test on the 0.2 too, not every task can be split up to several cores.

[@SuperDavidEF]

I think the way Chris did the CPU test was fair, since a lot of software is made to take advantage of multiple cores these days. However, I would have liked for him to also do the head-to-head using only one core so we can see just how much faster the CPU really is. Both tests would have been useful, IMHO.

[@paulmarano4078]

I was also hoping to see that, especially as it's a ~1 minute test. That said both are clocked at 1GHz, so I wouldn't expect much of a difference.

[@elsdon8256]

I'm on holiday in Bulgaria but made sure I was free to watch your bonus video. :)

[@SorenBorgquist]

I hadn't heard about it until this morning when I saw this video, but I've just ordered two for me and a colleague :)

[@lukeearthcrawler896]

Great video, Chris. The 2W is definitely a significant upgrade from the original. 4x performance? Thank you very much... indeed!

[@TrillChords]

Yooo!! That's amazing! Can't believe I just bought a bunch of v.1 rpi0w's last week lol Directly asks the manufacturers for more info when needed. Idk many KZbinrs that go that far. Love your work!

[@jyvben1520]

Jeff Geerling also had contact with the design engineer about the new chip (RP3...-AU) real gold bond wires in the chip

[@grayfool]

Great improvement. Very nice..

[@PixelShade]

What a great video! Thank you so much for shedding some new light on this wonderful little computer. Super exciting! What are the temperature like? Will we need cooling to avoid thermal throttling during prolonged intensive tasks?

[@ExplainingComputers]

The board does not run hot -- the cores are underclocked, so I don't anticipate that any cooling will be required. But I've yet to run tests beyond finger-on-SiP. :)

[@PixelShade]

@@ExplainingComputers shouldn't underestimate the benchmarking power of "finger-on-SiP" 😉

[@riggit451]

The Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W boots up faster than my older HP PC from 2015

[@Tommy-T448]

What I love about the first model is it can run on ANY usb port. The one from the back of the monitor? No problem. How about the one on the router? Stress test CPU and GPU easy. From the phone? Not a bloody problem.

[@Tommy-T448]

The little thing uses just 1W under 100% load. with everything enabled.

[@capsulate8642]

I actually killed the power and data ports on my Zero W a while back trying to solder a USB type-A connector onto it (so I could just plug it in with no cables). If I can't fix that one, I'm devilishly tempted to get one of these and give it a second spin (or use it properly like a normal person). The power consumption of the Zero 2W seems to fall just under the minimum spec for a USB 2.0 port so it should still be very accessible even with cheap phone chargers and my router's abysmal USB port :)

[@mattparker9726]

I had 4 videos back to back on this SBC. Explaining computers, Jeff Geerling, ETA Prime, and Novaspirit Tech. Guess who I clicked on? COME ON MR SCISSORS!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks Matt.

[@ElmerFuddGun]

The *BIGGEST PROBLEM* with all Pi Zero models has been finding them *in stock.* And they always have a *limit of one!*

[@tav9755]

It is something that you received the device pre official launch from the rspi foundation. Thanks for sharing

[@monolofiminimal]

I don't have a pi 3 nor the normal pi zero yet, so this is a perfect choice for me. What is energy consumption like? How much lower than a pi3? This zero2w scratches my itch.

[@SergiuszRoszczyk]

Go to Jeff Geerling. He even xrayed it. And also provides low power measurements.

[@matts9371]

I bought 2 of these last week to attempt to learn how to build my own auto surveillance system. Can't wait.

[@jlinkels]

It is insane to have a full-blown Linux computer the size of a match box for $15, Thanks for this extra edition of EC to tell us that.

[@typxxilps]

How much time did you have to play around with it ? I guess you were pretty well prepared at what you were looking and investigating first like those now missing 4 holes next to the gpio which you had found under the board again. Great to see that you cover such details you usually get not aware before you get a product in your hand and suddenly have to realise that a connector or pad or contact has moved or disappeared.

[@donaldaxel]

Very nice idea to measure boot speed (with exact same system, I presume) but there are so many caveats here. Most distros today do some hardwaredetection, even after installed, just in case the user has switched HW, and that comes in handy sometimes. But if you really wanted a system to boot speedily you would hardcode a startup initialization for just that system (possible generated by some smart boot-installer or whatever, you get the zist.)

[@richards7909]

Just seen Jeff Geerlings video. He x-rayed his and found an Easter Egg (and mentioned this channel)! I’m pleased they finally updated the Zero, but I think 1GB would have been better but ultimately it’s going to depend on use. Be interesting to see how this compares with the Zero W when used as a wireless security cam. Also, always good to get a bonus video :D

[@kriskruz3792]

eagerly waiting for the RPi5!

[@mikelangdon2534]

Had my zero w as a CCTV for a while but became burdensome to use, great news about the form factor as I can just unplug and replug with this!

[@avejst]

Wow, grea upgrade of the Pi Zerro 👍 Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍😀

[@ExplainingComputers]

No problem 👍

[@hellterminator]

4:15 Might I ask where you got that header, Chris? The color coding looks quite useful (for connecting power especially, but I imagine it would also make it easier to count the pins at a glance). Edit: Never mind, it's sold pretty much everywhere. But thank you for bringing my attention to it.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Sounds like you have this sorted! :) You are right that the coloured headers are so much easier to work with.

[@Calthecool]

Just imagine the possibilities of new projects!

[@TheOleHermit]

The perfect upgrade for an existing Pi Zero W project, IMO... if I had any. Sorry, but I'm already in love with the options of CM4 and it's variety of carrier boards to suit my projects' needs.. Anything less than that is an ESP32. But, thanks for the informative video, Chris. 😎

[@nicwilson6587]

A Special Mid-Week Treat. Thank You Chris!

[@mercuryoak2]

Good morning Chris. That is quite amazing to see that you can actually have technically a very affordable computer that can literally fit in your pocket in a case. I know it has uses such as doing projects and stuff but if somebody needed just the basic very small desktop to do word processing basic internet searching and you can hook it up to your television what about taking up much space it just mind-blowing.

[@ExplainingComputers]

You are right. I could not agree more. This is a nice tiny, low-cost PC that can work with a PC, and will use very little power too.

[@mercuryoak2]

@@ExplainingComputers exactly one person could technically take this little PC to a hotel and usually hook it up to a television and I have to worry about dragging some bulky desktop however a nice laptop is good to have when you need more power on a portable side or you build a green PC that is small enough to put in a suitcase. When I used to do over the road truck driving that involved having a sleeper cab . Having a low power shooter talk up to a small TV and not idling the tractor using a power inverter you would not cause much battery drain at all and with cell phones making it easier to Wi-Fi share from your phone you can utilize the need and less eye strain versus using your smartphone to look up something and have a small wireless keyboard to boot LOL it's quite nice I like technology advances but I also like the Vintage idea such as audio equipment you can't go wrong with a record player or a cassette tape even the old 8tracks do sound nice also the fact is that small PC Raspberry Pi zero technically for a model train hobbyist could be used on there G scale (Garden scale ) locomotive if they ran it on regular DC and they could program it to run a locomotive just like they would with digital command control or use it to run various things such as whites sounds excetera under programs. The possibilities are endless however those are my thoughts but I am not that good at coding I have a hard time with it.

[@_MicZ_]

@@ExplainingComputers Talking about power usage. Did you measure the difference ? This board will be used in quite some situations where the power consumption will be important...

[@ExplainingComputers]

@@_MicZ_ I've yet to measure this -- but you are right, it will be important in many use cases.

[@PlayingItWrong]

This leap in power opens up so many possibilities for use, any pi zero handheld just got dragged forward.

[@JendaLinda]

1 GB of RAM would be a better match to the quad core CPU. Perhaps we will see an upgraded version, when the chip market gets more stable. Also using micro USB on a new board is quite disappointing, when USB-C is going to be demanded by law in new devices soon.

[@ExplainingComputers]

The proposed/forthcoming EU law applies to smartphones, cameras, portable games consoles and tablets -- so will not be an issue for the Pi (unless sold as part of a games console or tablet!).

[@JendaLinda]

@@ExplainingComputers That's true. However, everybody will have USB-C cables laying around, but Micro USB cables will become quite uncommon.

[@weissbornjr]

Chris, I think you are missing the boat with these comparisons--especially with us old folk. I think you should compare these new SBC to a VAX 11/780 outfitted with a the max of 4 mb of RAM. 8-) Seriously, yet another good video.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Nice. :)

[@robertanthonybermudez5545]

wow! i never thought GIMP can be used as a 'benchmark" tool for AI image processing. Brilliant!

[@LoganStargazer]

There he goes again. Everybody else in the world: "Whoo hoo! Yippy! Wow! Amazing! OMG!"" This Guy: "Well, that's rather nice." in a calm voice.

[@ches74]

Absolutely canes Gimp opening time on my work i5 running Windows 10.

Oh my, very excited about this lil board! Can't wait to get my hands on it. Thank you very much for this video Chris, splendid!

[@ExplainingComputers]

You clearly see the possibilities and potential! :)

[@grayfox7306]

Excellent Flash News Extra, well done. I am so impressed with Pi (the product), the staff, and the company. They are truly pushing the boundaries and we are the beneficiaries of their genius.

[@thomasburnett4712]

Very impressive! Thank you for sharing your review of this exciting new product.

[@DigitalJedi]

I was hoping for a gig of ram but 512mb is fine. I also totally get why it's LPDDR2 instead of LPDDR3 nd why the ports haven't been updated to USB-C. They had a price point to hit and they did an amazing job with the custom SoC and board design.

[@montecorbit8280]

@ExplainingComputers At 10:26 You just finished sysbench on the 2 W.... You ran sysbench with threads = 1 on the original and 4 on the new board. That is fine and proper....but I would have liked to have seen a true apples to apples comparison with threads = 1 on the new board as well. This would have showcased how fast a single thread is compared to the old single thread, which is the whole processor I know. I just would have found it interesting, I'm sure that I would not have been the only one though.... Any chance you would run that test?? You may have to run all three sysbench tests again because I'm sure updates to the os's and stuff have changed.... Thank you for your time; Monte

[@alfiegordon9013]

Perfect coincidence with N-O-D-E presumed return!

[@HenrikoMagnifico]

A lovely little SBC for a (relatively) dirt cheap price! I can't wait to start some new projects with it.

[@phonewithoutquestion80]

Would love to run tinycore on this, very surprising addition.

[@carloslemare6060]

I did the same test with gimp in my MacBook Pro 15" 2017 with a Core i7 2,8Ghz..... the fans started to run adn the test was completed in 116 seconds. The Raspberry Pi Zero 2 without fans made the same in 181.5 seconds, that's impressive.

[@stefanp4258]

Really? Something must be wrong with your MacBook Pro, or the software is not correct installed, or misconfigured. Because a pi4 @2GHz can do this test in 12.5 seconds. I know that, because i did the test too.

[@TheAlucard63]

With Retroflag GPI case this new pi will be a killer handheld emulation device. I was also thinking of it to schedule some pyhton scripts. Unfortunatly the current script I want to schedule uses around 1Go of ram on the current machine I'm running it (an old Zotac zbox AD-06 with headless debian bullseye)...hence the 512M of the pi zero 2 are not enough for this task...

[@BartekSzzz]

That's the first thing I though! GPI case is the perfect candidate for the new Pi Zero :)

[@userou-ig1ze]

3:50 USB 2.0, that's a joke or mistake right? That would be ridiculous...edit: seems real. What a joke. There goes the coolness of running an rpi zero from an ssd... thanks for the presentation though

[@JamieWhitehorn]

A great video 😊 Did you get a chance to look at the thermals? I was just wondering if there was any throttling while you were running the tests. Thanks 😀

[@ExplainingComputers]

The board does not run hot -- the A53 cores are underclocked (even at 1GHz) -- so I imagine there was no throttle. But I will be testing further!

[@chriholt]

A bonus episode and a pretty impressive new RPi zero. $15 - amazing value.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Greetings Chris.

[@keithbeard7133]

Thank you for the information on the new Pi Zero 2!. Indeed its very exciting to have such a powerful CPU in that form-factor - I can seen some much needed processing being deployed in emulation gaming hand-helds, since there is essentially a Pi3 in such a small form factor. One thing I noticed, and please correct me if I am wrong, but I am under the impression that the Arm 11 "Broadcom BCM2835" of the Pi Zero/W is a 1GHz 32bit processor ( I still get excited by saying that when holding the device ) - when comparing this with a 1Ghz Quad Core 64bit processor in the Pi Zero 2 - for $15 its just astounding!

[@domainofscience]

Is it just me that hears the Trogdor theme song at the beginning of these vids?

[@MadamLava094]

I used to use my old pi zero w that my dad gave me bundled in a starter book to run a simple discord bot. Good times. I do remember how painfully sluggish it was to use in the desktop environment, so Im happy to see it get the boost it deserves! Edit: still have my pi zero, just dont know what to do with it.

[@grapsorz]

the only thing i was hpoing for when they designed the SoC themselves was to FINALY get a good fast camera connector. with the possibility to use just about every cam module.

[@typxxilps]

maybe Pi Zero was so tiny at the time that it deserved the mercy for booting slow. I still like those and like those first gen Pi Zero W and Zero 1.3 for reliable ultra low consumption performance running on batteries powered by solar power. Add any other board and suddenly your battery and solar power system is no longer performing all day in and out.