Had a lot of fun working on these lists with you @Rev Deuce ! Great video my friend and I hope others in the community make and share their own versions of the tier list as well.
@nuitari16692 жыл бұрын
With the g4 ships needing in the millions of XP per level, I find that the Enhanced Analysis is actually very very helpful. There isn't a lot of other research to boost xp earned from hostiles, iirc thorough scanning is the only other one. Then there are the officers, but you can hardly use them on a normal day-to-day pve grind. The exos are great of course, but you have to remember them and make sure to have the time to use them in real life.
@loonypath20732 жыл бұрын
I wish they would make an augment deep space area. For higher level triple locked players to auto grind in.
@JoshuaManess-li4em10 ай бұрын
Wish they would expand the augment faction. They seem like the real badarses
@derekbowen58202 жыл бұрын
Overall, I agree with this list. While I understand Rev's reasoning with Survival Skills being the top prime to buy, to me it's Borg Rewards. Yes, you can eventually get it for free, but the amount of extra faction and independent credits you miss out on will impact you greatly. Especially at only half the price, to me it's the best purchase I've made in game (maybe the 2nd research queue for like $5-10 was better).
@31ft112 жыл бұрын
Great video Rev! I would have to disagree on the prime rogue credit yield ranking though. Those extra rogue credits are super valuable for buying research credits for the stella tree. I used to have to skip a day buying research credits because I didn't have the tokens. That is no longer the case.
@surges99022 жыл бұрын
Solid video! I rarely comment, but this is a must watch! Great work Rev!
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@LiveBow2 жыл бұрын
@rev, sugestion: next time, also make a level related Rating... which best primes with 3*, 4*, and 5*.... its great for those of us who are leveling up. Keep up the good work!
@lronBeagle2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you post your chart? Didn't see a link to it in the description or the comments
@brianloveless31232 жыл бұрын
Will you make the ranking graphic avaliable on your discord? Thanks for all the info and great content!
@thomasbranch3826 Жыл бұрын
Prime swarm refining was a great one for me when I got it at lvl 24. It has given me the ability to focus my mining on G3 gas ore and Chrystal. By getting 500% more from the swarm refinery. Also prime charged borg nano probe has been great it’s helped me upgrade my Vi’dar quicker and more importantly I’ve been able to get more faction reputation points to work on locking them in.
@Sytanya2 жыл бұрын
if you get the tribute primes early just calculate how much value they give just by the credits they give... I think these are one of the best value primes, IF AQUIRED EARLY. I happily spend 600€ sub OPS 40 to conviniently get up reputation and gather hoards of credits. the content of the packs itself was good too.
@tobor2001 Жыл бұрын
Thank You this will really help me decide where to spend my Xmas $$$
@nurgle5533 Жыл бұрын
Rev thanks for making this video. I would love to see more videos like this as more Primes come out.
@marshy732 жыл бұрын
Prime Enhaced Analysis is very important for FrankA levelling! FrankA levelling is a real PITA and this research literally speeds up that levelling grind by 2.5x!
@timmylangenberg Жыл бұрын
Vidar prime refinery just jumped way up there with the vidar-A
@timmylangenberg Жыл бұрын
And they should also have the epic 50% loot for the vidar when killing probes apply to the tallios. I can still fill up my normal Vidar faster then a tallios that has 70% more power. Makes no sense.
@king_of_all_jokers92462 жыл бұрын
I bought the vi'dar cargo. Because my maxed ship had less cargo capacity than what I needed for a double pull. And I wanted to do one trip per double pull. There's enough grinding already.
@matthewjacobsmeyer60492 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I did not know that a level 40 treasury gave prime particles, and I had just enough to get it to 40 this morning. Got my first free prime particles!
@HugoBolzer2 жыл бұрын
Prime Critical Hit Chance is one of the very few i will pay for. Your ships critical Hit Chance is 10% + 2 % from a very early research 12% to 22% for every single ship is HUGE !
@jeffreywilliams80182 жыл бұрын
Prime Augment Favor is my bottom prime. Following your camping strategy, you can easily max Augment rep by ~Ops 25, while at that same level the 100% boost from prime damage isn’t totally irrelevant. That’s a $100 prime which is obsolete before a $10 prime (which you easily get for free by Ops 10-14)
@XHunter4422 жыл бұрын
First of all thank you for the video i was thinking about primes! TY and LLAP Rev Deuce!
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@nurgledaveАй бұрын
need an updated one of these Rev
@justincurcio67102 жыл бұрын
I only wish there was a f2p path for all of them at some point. Even if it was using the same treasury mechanic of a few particles a day for an extended period of time. If they can do that for 3 primes currently, there's no reason they can't expand it to others and continue to level gate behind the treasury
@RogueBear882 жыл бұрын
I put a bit more value in the vi'dar cargo prime with the introduction of the SNW Crew with uhura. The last borg run I did I pulled 700k of my 785k cargo in inert nanoprobesvvs lvl33 borg. With the cargo prime that's more than enough to pull the 500k double chest in a single run meaning more faction credits with less warp tokens used and less travel time. The downside is the time invested to farm 700k but I could do it faster with the invictus refit. It currently takes me 20-35 min to do a 700k run
@opiate472 жыл бұрын
I really loved this video. Thanks Rev and BH team. That's some good stuff right there.
@mattmurdock79192 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown Rev!
@barkman17392 жыл бұрын
I would like to know which ones if any you have bought, Rev 👍
@Beerbanks2 жыл бұрын
Enhanced Analysis is huge for Franklin A. When you need millions of ship Xp 46+ grinding everyday puts a dent in that when you don’t have thousands of lat. I think you under value Critical Hit chance and especially Hit Damage. It’s really good for PVP, Armadas and PVE. Paired with Lorca, HGW and Gorkon you’ll be out damaging people without it. It’s that OP.
@TommyPriceLifeCoach2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this info and the comments below. Answers a lot of questions.
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@davecowen60762 жыл бұрын
I’ve been debating on the Nitrium prime. Not because it’s necessary, but because I’m in the same systems as players using g4 and g5 ships to grind. They are there almost of the day and will zoom around grabbing apex. Makes it very difficult to get a full cargo resulting in compounding negative effects. Being able to upgrade out of those systems would be a very good thing. So advantage would be improved gameplay and reduced frustration.
@jeremiahmitchell64202 жыл бұрын
NOW we need another video on scopley event selection. THIS ARC BLOWZ
@vassagood2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more on Survival Skills.
@dupre74162 жыл бұрын
Great video Rev D. I'm so happy and proud of you for getting your cute little family into a pretty darn nice house. To the topic of this video, great stuff. I'm just now scrapping all 3 of my low level faction ships. It's fun to get some of these primes I've always longed for. Appreciate this super detailed recap.
@Excathedra012 жыл бұрын
I largely do not disagree with a lot of things, but if I were to pick some nits.... I would put Crit Chance higher than Crit Damage, simply because in the current changing META, the new Strike Teams... only 1 is crit based. Only 1 gives solid crit chance quickly. The other 2 ST crews have no bonus to crit chance. And, if you don't crit, you cannot get the crit damage. Nit picked.
@captainjadi89242 жыл бұрын
VERY. Very useful Rev. Ty! 🖖😊
@craigjohnson1782 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for helping me focus on what primes are good and not so good... I like to spend some money but I also what to make better choices in my purchases as well... Actually, I was thinking about purchasing the Daily Prime and Factions prime and you have just conferred my thoughts.. so Thank you again!! Have a Blessed day to you and your family. Amen 🙏
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@whismerhill32312 жыл бұрын
Very nice overview👍👍 Where is the picture that I can watch on discord?
@ToxiicJezus2 жыл бұрын
So I did do Tribute Romulan Tribute because I still dont have a G3 Epic so 400 creds per day is a huge win for me. $100 for that I get my money back over 2 months easily vs buying 30K creds
@warter752 жыл бұрын
Cloaked Racketeer is not free. It was part of the battlepass or you can buy it in the store/event store.
@rossbrading89802 жыл бұрын
Prime Survival Skills is definitely the Prime I really want to get for the reasons covered... But being only a lowly Ops 29. I can't actually research it. So torn between Borg Rewards, Daily Faction and 3* Crystal Refine (Crystal is kicking my ass with Levelling a Saladin, Horizon AND research... and the refinery is ASS 😂) Great vid regardless Rev! Really informative for the up and coming late 20's (Also I know you can get 2 of those for free eventually But I'd rather not have to wait until I can scrap for them as I'm soft camping level 29)
@1Lorddeth2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rev, I have the prime vi'dar cargo and using the SNW crew I can fully fill it in one run with inert probes, so 800K a run.
@Texxdaddy2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Rev
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jlussier982 жыл бұрын
Where is the "Survival prime skills"? And great video Rev 👍🖖😎
@coreyjohnson98162 жыл бұрын
Accurate list! Great video 👍
@godfathertribble44042 жыл бұрын
What’s funny is the prime for faction daily events is gone from the store but the event is still active.
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
#Scopely
@Kitty_not_human5 күн бұрын
Is there a new video for best primes considering all the new primes that came out?
@claytonparris4322 жыл бұрын
Active nanoprobes are meh at best because you only need a finite amount of them. Also you get tons of them from away team missions. The prime is rendered useless once your borg officers reach max level.
@Daniel-hj8kw2 жыл бұрын
they need to add the ship manufacturing primes for 5* as well. same bottleneck with 5* ship parts that we had with 4* ship parts. It would help the grind
@thomasbranch3826 Жыл бұрын
Prime Crystal research I’m at level 30 in hitting that uncommon bottle neck. How good is that? And what are the ways to get around the uncommon Crystal bottleneck?
@hawkfyre65282 жыл бұрын
What do you think about prime shield buffering
@GodGurdjieff2 жыл бұрын
Prime crit chance has value mathematically (if we ignore it's expensive or not? 24% in place of 12% means roughly double crit chance(for prime crit chance owners)
@jeffkretzer1827 Жыл бұрын
Is the prime inert nano for the talios worth the purchase?
@byronrupp10732 жыл бұрын
Rev, what are your thoughts on the prime shield buffers? I'm level 46 and would love to be able to punch higher if possible. Your insights are appreciated. Thanks for all you do for the community!
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
I think the Hull has more (a lot more) value.
@byronrupp10732 жыл бұрын
@@RevDeuce, my apologies (and thanks for the quick response!), I should have mentioned that I already have prime shields and prime hulls. So I'm trying to determine if adding prime ablative armor or prime shield buffers will do much for me at level 46.
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
The ablative armor will (it's a hull bonus). shields will as well, just not AS useful/noticeable.
@byronrupp10732 жыл бұрын
@@RevDeuce, many thanks. I'm 3 years into the game and your content has been incredibly helpful in enjoying and advancing at a (scopelified) reasonable rate. Keep up the great work!
@JustMike20222 жыл бұрын
Was about to get Prime Ablative Armor Plating but will switch to Prime Survival based on this vid. #xmasgift
@benjaminzirker75572 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on all. Augmented space needs an update.
@angelocorsino1773 Жыл бұрын
How's the Vi'dar cargo rated now with the new borg grind xD
@1Dshot3 ай бұрын
Would love to see an update and how to get f2p ones
@ourcollectivewisdom87699 ай бұрын
Prime survival skills didn’t seem to do squat for me. I have no idea why this is top of the list.
@CoreyRaines2 жыл бұрын
The 500 dollar primes arnt that bad they are lvl locked not intended to be maxed at start. its designed to to tier up with you as you lvl ops the credits are good to make the grind for faction ships less. It was designed to reduce grind time.
@markoconnor71632 жыл бұрын
Borg rewards says it's epic Gas - what level do u need and how do you source it?
@ethanpace67752 жыл бұрын
you have to be 40+ to get epic gas from the 7 and 28 day chests. its absurdly hard compared to most of the free to play. they offered it in a battlepass a year or so ago, and many decided to switch it to the officer stats prime.
@fusiongingerragegaming Жыл бұрын
Just got back after 2 years off - Did I miss Prime Ablative Armor Plating on the list? Is it worth it??
@thomastrain79342 жыл бұрын
Swarm refinery and Max warp speed are only exceeded by the Prime Officer primes in value. Ship parts ones are good too for G4 ship owners. I would pass on the outlaw based ones. The stella grind altogether is a time sink that really does not return enough to justify.
@KFGustavo Жыл бұрын
I don't see Prime Charged Nanoprobes, so I guess it's new? Which tier would it be? (I don't know if it loses value once you get Talios?)
@DavidSmith-gq1xo2 жыл бұрын
Good morning Sir ✌️
@davidcote32312 жыл бұрын
Syndicate XP prime went from an A to a D as soon as the Mantis came out. It would be an F if the Actian space wasn't broken.
@markhopkins3027 Жыл бұрын
Can’t see charged nano probes refinery?
@meredithmorris26812 жыл бұрын
Tribute useless. I totally agree I'd say they should type of primes should be banne. To be honest SCOOPLEY SHOULD just give more credits for dalies
@fusiongingerragegaming Жыл бұрын
Prime survival skills? Doesnt seem to be in the store for me. Lvl gated?
@Shane-EzekyleAbaddon2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why prime faction event rates so high it only gives 270 extra faction credits per day for me that and the fact the pack is bugged if you look at the g4 ore that it gives you it gives 2 lots of g4common and no g4uncomon ore
@nickmarshall2372 жыл бұрын
What stella grind is there other than armadas
@robertpelz992 жыл бұрын
Rating prime crit chance and dmg soooooooooo low is makes me really think, how good is that overall rating. You always said, long term value is what matters officier more important then ships and then you take those 2 super important primes so low? These will help for every existing and going to come ships, they help in every aspect of the game pvp, pve, armadas impact on pve and armadas is huge, as you do more dmg while using stuff like pmc etc. Meaning killing faster meaning you take less dmg and you get higher per hull kill count. They belong together with officer primes SS maybe even need an own tier SSS.
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
That's the point. They aren't super important. Very niche, with very low effect.
@shanestanford80822 жыл бұрын
Thanks for grading these primes but now where are they located?
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Well, which one specifically. Obviously all are in the research trees but is there one you're having a tough time to find?
@shanestanford80822 жыл бұрын
@@RevDeuce well when the video started I thought you were going to by the research tree that you had on the screen, but I get why that probably would have taken longer. Some are easy to figure out (prime stella hold).
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Yea it can be not so obvious, for some, but that would have almost doubled the length of the video.
@KnotboredWoodworking2 жыл бұрын
What ops lvl are ftp able to get prime Borg rewards(epic 4* from scraps)
@Paulostore2 жыл бұрын
I would upgrade Hulll to A tier. Many times I won by 5% HP left. And sure will drop Sindicate to B rank... why spend 100$ and get less value them people that spend 50$ and a battlepass for a Mantis.
@AznSlickSlaya2 жыл бұрын
Do you also watch Gael Level?
@thecoyote73796 ай бұрын
Anyone know where to find a link to this table?
@neurofault2 жыл бұрын
How are you getting Cloaked Racketeer for free? I think it is only in event stores now.
@mikepomeroy1532 жыл бұрын
How are you able to boost all 3 with your Cerritos? ? Mine can only do 1.
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Tiering/Leveling it up increases support duration (mines t5) and I also have the Cerritos skin
@mikepomeroy1532 жыл бұрын
@@RevDeuce ah. Ok. Thanks man. I was thinking research, but didn't see it. 😕 😁
@AaronStevensaj2 жыл бұрын
Man I would say that Xp enhanced analysis isn’t an F tier, the grind to get ships levelled up is a pain, and unless you have lots of latinum, or XP, you have to grind to level up ships, so anything that makes that faster is a benefit, even build and scrapping the Stella etc it’s so fast now having that prime.
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Is it worth spending $100 just for a small boost (that you have officers for already)? Personally, no thanks, but nothing wrong with varied opinions!
@scott92312 жыл бұрын
@@RevDeuce the officer options are not amazing, they don't get close to 250% and limits crewing options, plus this doesn't cost $100 directly, you buy it with multiphasic credits so basically its free if you're buying any other $100 prime or pack or several battlepasses for the low spenders
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Definitely one way to look at it Scott! When this was made the goal was definitely to get other people to come up with their own tiers and get varied viewpoints!
@AaronStevensaj2 жыл бұрын
@@RevDeuce yea its doesnt actually cost anything really if you buy packs, even the $20 battlepass you get Multiphasic credits, so it could be classed as a free prime, not a Free 2 Play prime tho
@Fallingblock2 жыл бұрын
Can we get a link to this table?
@thecoyote73796 ай бұрын
So much has changed since this video. I wonder how he would change it
@catrees2777 Жыл бұрын
I’m level 25 and prime survival skill is available to buy now, but on research tree says can’t get untill r&d lvl 32. If I were to purchase it now. Will it be available straight away or would I need to wait untill lvl 32.
@DragonKerr96522 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of getting Prime Survival, but the node says its locked till ops 32 but it is showing i can buy it in my store. im ops 27 now, is this able to be done?
@ethanpace67752 жыл бұрын
Enhanced analysis is waaaaay more useful than stated. its not for events. its for leveling any ship.
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Correct, but, still don't really feel it's that useful (personally).
@ethanpace67752 жыл бұрын
@@RevDeuce but you complained about the stella grind lol the stella grind is sooo much easier (and 3 and 4 star leveling) in eclipse spacd hitting 37-40s with around 13 k exp a pop...
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
I'm still one of those old school people who leaves stuff out overnight to autogrind haha
@ethanpace67752 жыл бұрын
get about 3600 per in augment. dont know if you can auto the factions higher with the stella. wish they would let me drop the triple lock lol
@roycotton52642 жыл бұрын
Trying to get to lvl 40 there is part need ASSEND KEY for my OPERATION Where do I get this key at
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Comes in an event on Fridays. Have to defeat an epic armada with a G3 Epic ship or ISS Jellyfish
@TheSithLord Жыл бұрын
Did he cover ablative armor?
@RevDeuce Жыл бұрын
That wasn't out yet when I made this video.
@TheSithLord Жыл бұрын
By chance, would you be interested in doing content on Prime Ablative Armor Plating and the shield equivalent? My tinga docked empty has 8m hull. The math I did doesn’t seem right. Thanks rev.
@shiroterra1042 жыл бұрын
Can we get a 2x defiant and realta vs lvl 35 solo armada? XD let the realta out lets show the strength of that little rascal
@chrisbraden76412 жыл бұрын
How do you unlock officers and borg rewards for free?
@dannylaw88532 жыл бұрын
Prime officers and survival doesn't help with away team mission officer states
@kristopherhayes722 жыл бұрын
It absolutely does. So much. A night and day difference. Make sure you are not mistakenly falling for the glitch where the stat boosts from those 2 primes is only displayed while the officer is on a ship.
@dannylaw88532 жыл бұрын
@@kristopherhayes72 ahh yes the 2 prime officer researches only show a stat boost when on a ship, I have both and they've never worked on awayteam missions. I had the first prime from early on and when I got the 2nd it didn't show any increase, I've played the game pretty much since launch I'm questioning why I'm still playing as scampley really cba fixing shit but try to sugar coat it with more broken or useles shit
@christopherparisho58442 жыл бұрын
As someone who really doesn’t have a lot of extra money to spend my focus on primes is whatever I can get without having to spend any real world money. I’m not sure which one I would actually consider to be the best prime to get, because it has Rev pointed out a few times there’s a lot of functionality that officers are better at than prime research.
@bobbyduke777 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@PaulKer872 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced SS was a good idea for the name of a tier. Haha
@ChristineSpencer742 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that if you are sitting there with $100 trying to decide what to buy...and it's down to Prime Station Damage (Rated: F) or Prime Interceptor Manufacturing (Rated: S).... buy Prime Station Damage. I promise, if you debate me on this, you will lose.
@ChristineSpencer742 жыл бұрын
As a content creator, Rev, you should probably reconsider your list with this in mind... Prime Station Damage will give 3000 5* UC Crystal. With efficiency research building it will likely leave you with enough crystal to do 2 of the 5* 1000 crystal primes. Including the S rated Prime Interceptor Manufacturing.
@seankettledon13312 жыл бұрын
I would have seen where there are
@goosem9442 жыл бұрын
Disagree with vidar cargo not being SS tier everyone should be opc hunting add laan underdeck and you can get a big cargo full of iso
@RevDeuce2 жыл бұрын
Again, that's why it's "niche". More people in STFC dislike PVP (including OPC hunting) than like it. Even then, it's not SS tier. It's not the most important thing I would recommend even the most devout PVPer buy.
@daveclements32452 жыл бұрын
To me... Mantis grind is far worse than Stella grind.