RAVEN SYMONE EXPOSES HOLLYWOOD (child star experiences + changes needed)

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@MaddMaddox77
@MaddMaddox77 7 ай бұрын
I love that Raven called out the fact that yelling in anger as a manager is toxic. I'm a manager at a very busy, fast food restaurant and we do not yell at our employees in anger or to reprimand them. We need to yell occasionally to be heard in the middle of a busy rush, but we don't yell in anger
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 7 ай бұрын
it's abuse and there is no excuse for it but chris tried to excuse it
@sugrcookiiee
@sugrcookiiee 7 ай бұрын
Ive never heard or experienced that especially being in management in the fast food industry 10+ years; its usually just mentally abusive.. but its refreshing to know that some joints can treat employees with respect without screaming at them.
@Zipperskull_
@Zipperskull_ 7 ай бұрын
That's why some people don't deserve to be manager.
@brittanyparistx
@brittanyparistx 7 ай бұрын
This is HUGE!!!!! Thank you for honoring your employees like that. Treating each other with respect is key for both employer and employee.
@DeadKraken
@DeadKraken 7 ай бұрын
@@thewkovacs316 Authority figures treating teenage boys like shit, being "though" with them and verbally abusing them are all normalized things in our patriarchal society, especially until 10\15 years ago, that's probably why he tried to sort of excuse that behavior and not admit it's toxic. It's probably how he was treated by multiple male figures of authority as he grew up and can't admit to himself it's abuse.
@des1993
@des1993 7 ай бұрын
I hope Raven coming forward empowers more people to come forward.
@majolat2000
@majolat2000 7 ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity, will you translate this? भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्ग मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु.,
@hellochristimbouttasinagain
@hellochristimbouttasinagain 7 ай бұрын
@@majolat2000To hell you go. Reverse.
@aprilliamonroe9197
@aprilliamonroe9197 7 ай бұрын
It says Palestine will be free and Israel is a terrorist state​@@majolat2000
@AndyyWithAY
@AndyyWithAY 7 ай бұрын
It's incredibly creepy that they don't want the parents to be on set. Even literal babies. They said the Olsen twins cried too much when their mom was on set. I'm pretty annoyed that Chris wanted to speak on something he hadn't seen. Raven did a great job though
@mikki_s1100
@mikki_s1100 7 ай бұрын
Which is so sad, because they were likely crying in need of comfort, and without there parent there didn’t feel safe to express their needs. Happens even with newborns
@EavenStarchilde
@EavenStarchilde 7 ай бұрын
Raven is right- and what's even more sad, is that she's been telling us for a long time and no one was listening and passed her off as unhinged because in the past she's made some not so savory tone deaf remarks... But I dont wholly blame her for it either; look at what she went through. Right now, she's trying her best to protect the children, women and men alike in the industry by exposing it for what it really is. I applaud Raven for not giving up and giving in. She's a remarkable and strong woman.
@spectre9340
@spectre9340 7 ай бұрын
It's very sad that Drake Bell could've been spared since his dad was very much the "If you touch my kid, you're dead" kind of parent but his mom was unfortunately the "I want my child to be a star" kind of parent and didn't believe any of his dad's concerns about Drake being alone with Brian Peck all the time
@kaleyjoplinRAWRR
@kaleyjoplinRAWRR 7 ай бұрын
Yeah that was my thought too when watching Quiet on Set. Like he was a hands on parent but his mom could care less I guess. That’s so sad. She wasn’t on the doc but I wonder how she feels about it all now. It was partly her fault
@maryperry6573
@maryperry6573 7 ай бұрын
@@kaleyjoplinRAWRRlike, how would you have your child staying with a grown man . Ew
@kaleyjoplinRAWRR
@kaleyjoplinRAWRR 7 ай бұрын
@@maryperry6573 i know right! It’s so gross. I’m not a parent but I would NEVER.
@98dannyj
@98dannyj 7 ай бұрын
​@kaleyjoplinRAWRR I'm a parent to a boy, and I don't leave ANYONE alone with him...how his mother could just brush it off..it's beyond my understanding
@JoseSena-gs4tz
@JoseSena-gs4tz 7 ай бұрын
While his mom was going through a lot, I do understand THAT part. My only issue is his dad said “Don’t EVER under no circumstance do you leave Drake alone with Brian Peck” and she did just that. Left him alone
@minkakemi
@minkakemi 7 ай бұрын
Every time this subject comes up I keep on being mesmerized that nothing apparently happened in the harry potter set, not only that, but they're always talking about how little hours they could act BC they were always doing homework. I mean good for England
@SpoiltLittlePrincess
@SpoiltLittlePrincess 7 ай бұрын
I think if you look at Radliffe and Watson in particular it had a huge impact. They would not be their grouned, insightful and chill selves without those laws in place and some of the actors and staff that parented and mentored them in those days. It hasn't saved everyone, of course. Grint and a few other actors had addictions or committed crime/went to jail etc but if you consider all of those kids who had returning roles and a lot of press, set and camera time most of them did well and OK at least in terms of who they grew up to be.
@mappingoutthesky
@mappingoutthesky 7 ай бұрын
​@@SpoiltLittlePrincess What? Rupert Grint isn't an addict. Most of them aren't. Ironically, Daniel was the one who had a drinking problem and so did Tom Felton. As for crimes, the actor who played Crabbe served time but as for the others, no one did anything. Everyone is pretty chill. I don't where did you get this info from
@mappingoutthesky
@mappingoutthesky 7 ай бұрын
YEEES, I'm so curious what their thoughts are about this
@minkakemi
@minkakemi 7 ай бұрын
@@SpoiltLittlePrincess no but that’s the thing, i’m not saying they are these perfect angels, I’m talking about pedophilia and children abuse alone, cause they obviously still had room to fuck up and being affected by the fame and money but somehow it seems like every adult treat them how they were supposed to and that’s (sadly) quite remarcable
@SpoiltLittlePrincess
@SpoiltLittlePrincess 7 ай бұрын
@@mappingoutthesky I appreciate the correction on Grint because I watched him in a movie several years ago and I remember people mentioning they were glad to see him in something bc they had addiction issues or smth similar but perhaps they were wrong. I remember Radcliffe discussing alcohol but obv he overcame/managed that which is why I didn't mention it though I didn't know about Felton. And I wouldn't say that every single actor from the Potter franchise outside of those above is entirely chill but none of them are out carjacking or jumping kids or anything as far as we know. And tbh, whether people think they're chill or not would really depend on their opinions on various things that actors have had divisive opinions on (which I really don't feel like sparking a fight over in YT comments).
@CWazBroadwayBandGeek
@CWazBroadwayBandGeek 7 ай бұрын
Disney needs to do their own “Quiet on Set”
@EavenStarchilde
@EavenStarchilde 7 ай бұрын
And expose Walt for being a 3rd degree Freemason, his ties to white power and Nazis. It needs to be done- as soon as he and his brother died, the company got sold off to some very ignorant and powerful men who care nothing about their audience and only about the money and how they can profit off children.
@marquisdesade3025
@marquisdesade3025 7 ай бұрын
Nickelodeon isn’t the one that put out the original. It was an investigation ABOUT Nickelodeon. A second, would be an investigation ABOUT Disney.
@JoseSena-gs4tz
@JoseSena-gs4tz 7 ай бұрын
Quiet on Set got a second season. It should be about Disney
@gabrielladiaz6933
@gabrielladiaz6933 7 ай бұрын
@@JoseSena-gs4tzI can’t wait for that
@Daydreamerr13
@Daydreamerr13 7 ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@Danny-ii6jn
@Danny-ii6jn 7 ай бұрын
Yeah but what you’re missing about drakes case is, as soon as his dad wasn’t there to protect him is when they got him. As soon as he had a more neglectful parent in place he was harmed.
@robertkeane9393
@robertkeane9393 7 ай бұрын
Kids need to be protected. Period.
@marieneu264
@marieneu264 7 ай бұрын
3:56 I think children that “star” on social media on the so called family channels should be protected as well.
@teedubb176
@teedubb176 7 ай бұрын
10000%
@gpuggz6333
@gpuggz6333 7 ай бұрын
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@missmarthafawker
@missmarthafawker 7 ай бұрын
We need to talk about the gaslighting of children in hollywood and how that effects them as they age.
@honeybee347
@honeybee347 7 ай бұрын
This,quiet in set and alyson stoner's dear Hollywood series should be mandatory watch for any parents who put their kids on any form of media.
@ashleyd5229
@ashleyd5229 7 ай бұрын
I really like the fact that for Raven coming forth about this, is that she’s trying to brainstorm what we can do to make changes to entertainment industries instead of just gossiping about what we already know and what has come forth. I’m going to be 27 this summer, I remember watching That’s so Raven way more than I watched shows on Nickelodeon. I do remember loving Zoey 101 in 4th grade ish and I was about 4-5gears old watching the Amanda show. I always remembered how weird Nick was getting with the shows being produced, hence I chose to watch Disney more. I loved iCarly, KZbin was something everyone dreamed of getting popular on at the time.. but I remember how uncomfortable I felt sometimes when watching iCarly. Anyways. I like how Raven is brainstorming protection laws for children in entertainment industry and really pushing for the message that if this is the route families take, to always have the parents present. I really hope to see her really pursue bringing this to light and even in court to create a law to protect children. I think it would be awesome to begin having mandated reporters on sets, somehow incorporate that on set or even a family advocate for people to go to and make complaints or parents advocating for their children. Idk it’s all complex, but I feel like with all the child stars whom are adults could come together to make these laws possible and set in place would be awesome. Yooo especially with things going on with honey boo boo and her money situation. Those kinda of protections and laws too for the child.
@Lovelyaribb
@Lovelyaribb 7 ай бұрын
I like this perspective- maybe it’s because we are literally the same age (I turn 27 this summer too) and it’s nice to reflect with someone who grew up with the same shows at the same age
@margauxevans4298
@margauxevans4298 7 ай бұрын
I feel like Alyson stoner single handedly started this convo and she should be mentioned more today ❤
@sarahmoorhead8146
@sarahmoorhead8146 7 ай бұрын
Nah I don’t buy it. If there’s c*m shot jokes, foot fetish scenes, or innuendos being made while a parent is on set, that parent is to blame. You’re telling me you didn’t pull your child out of harms way because you feared them losing their role? At that point? You put your child’s stardom before their safety and you’re a bad parent
@Deus_ex_lucifina
@Deus_ex_lucifina 7 ай бұрын
I genuinely try not to judge parents, and I can understand pausing because your kid wants this, and you know that any retaliation would be towards them, and, yeah, one wrong move could get them replaced AND unable to get other gigs in the industry…but I DONT CARE. You are not making a c*mshot joke at my CHILD’s expense. The child may hate me in the moment, but it doesn’t matter. Their safety takes priority. They’ll find a new dream and get over it.
@EavenStarchilde
@EavenStarchilde 7 ай бұрын
I agree- there are more parents in the industry that are like that than not, unfortunately.
@kaleyjoplinRAWRR
@kaleyjoplinRAWRR 7 ай бұрын
Well said Sarah!
@laurapotpie
@laurapotpie 7 ай бұрын
Did Airiana grandes parents watch her film that scene w the water? No f@cking way I'd allow that!
@maryperry6573
@maryperry6573 7 ай бұрын
Just because theyre on set doesn’t mean, they’re allowed to watch the scene as it’s filmed to know WHAT was just done. They may not even watch it when it aired.. we don’t know the whole situation to judge everyone
@dancelaughlove1
@dancelaughlove1 7 ай бұрын
Can I just say that Raven has NOT aged at all! Iconic!
@ZavaXavier
@ZavaXavier 7 ай бұрын
Well when you sell your soul in Hollyweird that what happened.
@ZionDoesMakeup
@ZionDoesMakeup 7 ай бұрын
​@@ZavaXavier Please it don't have anything to do with that I'm 20 and look 15 you telling me I sold my soul??
@ZavaXavier
@ZavaXavier 7 ай бұрын
@@ZionDoesMakeup You don't really understand what I said.
@ZionDoesMakeup
@ZionDoesMakeup 7 ай бұрын
@@ZavaXavier How you know she sold her soul tho I doubt every person in the industry has done that
@mya.xoxo_
@mya.xoxo_ 7 ай бұрын
@@ZavaXavier y'all are just baths!t crazy conspiracy theorists. even when a celebrity ages slowly, which is something that's common to regular people (especially black folk since melanin slows down aging), y'all still manage to say it's because they sold their soul. always linking everything and anything to selling souls. 🙄
@courtneycoleman6849
@courtneycoleman6849 7 ай бұрын
I used to want to be a set teacher for this exact reason. Sometimes they really are the kids ONLY advocate on set when their parents are so blinded by the glitz and glamor. The most powerful person on most sets are the producers & director. The most powerful person on set of ANYTHING involving kids is the set teacher.
@k_singsss_1556
@k_singsss_1556 7 ай бұрын
🥹🥹thank you so much as a survivor of malignant narc mother who smear campaigned me when I went to CPS so I was discredited even though I had a dislocated jaw and she continued to starve me , make me sleep on the floor worsening jaw, and so much. I struggle to advocate for myself as an adult thru pains. THANK YOU FOR HAVING A HEART FOR ADVOCACY ❤
@Mia-ip6il
@Mia-ip6il 7 ай бұрын
​​@@k_singsss_1556 it breaks my heart to read this, i hope you heal and find peace and happiness now as an adult. I myself am the child of a narc mom with paranoid schizophrenia and now as an adult I'm struggling to unlearn the toxic and learn the healthy all over again, getting therapy as much as possible and slowly establishing boundaries. Sending you love and happiness❤❤
@acruz1233
@acruz1233 7 ай бұрын
Is no one aware of Chris and Kyle Massey’s own history of domestic abuse and child endangerment? Or the fact that their mother supports Dan?
@evangelinamuniz2868
@evangelinamuniz2868 7 ай бұрын
What?? Tell me more??? 😳😩
@MsCat108
@MsCat108 7 ай бұрын
​@evangelinamuniz2868 yeah his dumb ass mama got on beyonce internet and said dang is awesome 😒 then Kyle apparently had this case that he was texting an underage girl and wait plot twist the same lady that accused him of doing that to her daughter is apparently the same lady the sa Kyle Chris brother aka Corey from that so raven .
@missmarthafawker
@missmarthafawker 7 ай бұрын
Every child actor should have mandatory therapy……
@marquisdesade3025
@marquisdesade3025 7 ай бұрын
To discuss what happened after the fact? We need regulation.
@toasted_peach
@toasted_peach 7 ай бұрын
When Drake was staying with his mom, that’s when he was SA’d because she didn’t care. His pr3dator would pick him up because mom “didn’t feel like driving him there”
@killerbunny6267
@killerbunny6267 7 ай бұрын
That whole zoey 101 cast needs to address the unfair treatment of Alexa. Until they step forward and speak on it i sincerely hope they hit a decline in views, gigs, and paychecks. They SHOULD be held accountable for their assistance in the toxicity of that set.
@lindseystein9676
@lindseystein9676 7 ай бұрын
Coogan laws don’t require the parent to set aside all of the kids earnings. Unless it’s changed recently, they’re only required to set aside 15%. Personally I think it should be the other way around, that parents should have to set aside everyone and keep 15% for themselves. That percentage is a very generous manager fee.
@DavidKen878
@DavidKen878 7 ай бұрын
The Coogan Law doesn't require parents to do anything. The Coogan Law says that employers must set aside 15%.
@MaryLoveJane
@MaryLoveJane 7 ай бұрын
The only way I can wrap my mind around it is that the assumption is the 85% being kept is being used towards the child’s current life/needs, it just rarely works out that way. Kind of like how child support payments are *intended* to help support the child’s welfare, but some parents will give their kids the bare minimum and then spoil themselves.
@RosesTeaAndASD
@RosesTeaAndASD 7 ай бұрын
Honey Boo Boo and siblings are a unfortunate example of parental exploitation. Unfortunately for those kids, it was more than money June stole from them.
@DavidKen878
@DavidKen878 7 ай бұрын
@@MaryLoveJane You're saying it rarely works that way, as if every child star grows up and find out they have no money left.
@MaryLoveJane
@MaryLoveJane 7 ай бұрын
@@DavidKen878 no, I’m saying the portion being kept is usually not spent primarily on the child earning the money while they’re still a minor, it goes towards the whole family. Usually the parents will use the money towards things that are mutually beneficial to the child, like upgraded housing and transportation, but the child earning the money has little say in the decisions in most cases. And then when the child becomes an adult, the parents tend to keep most of what was bought while they were a minor.
@zenfriend3260
@zenfriend3260 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely devastating to hear all this has happened to some of my most favorite childhood figures ❤ I hope they all are getting the grace they deserve
@TheSkinnyZ
@TheSkinnyZ 7 ай бұрын
I wanna hear one of them admitting to bullying Alexa.
@jennayoung99
@jennayoung99 7 ай бұрын
I'm kind of sick of how men in the industry keep speaking on this issue without watching the docu- series. They are always going to put their foot in their mouth.
@moofmastermadison
@moofmastermadison 7 ай бұрын
yeah but also their experience is valid and it was even triggering for me to watch it. maybe these guys don’t want to speak on everything they’ve been through or watch the doc for their mental health. i’ve been staying out of who has spoken watched or not.
@mandys1038
@mandys1038 7 ай бұрын
@@moofmastermadison sadly there have been some who are forcing these child stars to speak of their experiences working for the network or for Dan then criticizing them which is not fair. No one should be forcing anyone to speak out about what they've been through then be judged for it.
@TheDawnofVanlife
@TheDawnofVanlife 7 ай бұрын
Also a lot of them seem to go back to the ‘tough boss’ excuse which isn’t the major issue bought up by the docu series.
@VioletRayn-hf3ed
@VioletRayn-hf3ed 7 ай бұрын
Why are we targeting men specifically? I'm not super deep in the conversation but I am sure there have been women involved who decided not to watch the docu series? I think it's unfair to say that men are only allowed to discuss the topic or share their OWN experiences under certain conditions.
@moofmastermadison
@moofmastermadison 7 ай бұрын
@@VioletRayn-hf3ed i wasn’t talking about men specifically, but i will say as a society we have built men up to hold things in. we also force them to speak on things too. i don’t think anyone regardless should have to watch or speak on media or experiences that they don’t want to period. josh i think has been avoiding things for so long that now it seems fishy. but still, it isn’t his place to speak on it. i don’t think this is a male vs female thing. we see now men have been abused and women too. the issue is the power dynamics. even with the audience that is consuming the media vs the people creating and working in the media. this issue is too grey to make it about men and women.
@starnmiller
@starnmiller 7 ай бұрын
There’s no regulation because there’s too much money to be made off these kids
@monadejaneiro
@monadejaneiro 7 ай бұрын
Yup and way easier to get over on them VS. an adult.
@AstroMoonGoddess
@AstroMoonGoddess 7 ай бұрын
There definitely should be a stringent FEDERAL law when it comes to child labor laws. Usually, that signifies the standard by which all states must abide. Similar to federal gun laws, each state can decide to make that federal law much stricter than federal government but the state can not make the federal law less strict in their state. It would just be a better place for all kids if there were no loopholes in child labor laws.
@rjane17-pz6dm
@rjane17-pz6dm 7 ай бұрын
I feel like Chris was high key talking about Christy Carlson Romano when he spoke on those who can’t move on from child stardom… 😅
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 7 ай бұрын
That applies to both Christy and Anneliese.
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 7 ай бұрын
it's the paul peterson theory on why some child actors go off the deep end i think it's a flawed theory, given all the stories of abuse that have come out
@lindseypine9066
@lindseypine9066 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking of Jamie Lynn lol because of the book and all the reality shows she was in lately…
@maryperry6573
@maryperry6573 7 ай бұрын
She’s monetizing and people are interested in knowing…. I WAS interested in hearing about her stories and then it was like 😩 ok shut up lol
@rjane17-pz6dm
@rjane17-pz6dm 7 ай бұрын
@@lindseypine9066 I wasn’t even thinking about Jamie Lynn! The only reason I think he might not have been referring to her though is because he just did “Zoey 102,” so unless they had a falling out on that set, I’d imagine he’d be trying to stay in her good graces.
@Mxteo11
@Mxteo11 7 ай бұрын
Sadly, you guys are gonna be waiting a really long time if you guys are expecting things in Hollywood itself to change i.e. Shirley Temple and Judy Garland are prime examples of childhood stars that were mistreated and that was how long ago? Now you fast-forward to today and you guys are saying they’re still being mistreated? Why are you guys still shocked and why are you guys still still waiting for it to change? People are always going to be greedy. Nothing will ever stop that.
@miraza.
@miraza. 7 ай бұрын
or jackie coogan who the law is named after himself who was the kid in charlie chaplin’s “the kid” movie which came out in 1921… it’s been over 100 years
@Noturbfpanini
@Noturbfpanini 7 ай бұрын
Yes exactly it's not new.. Hollywood was founded on corruption and mistreatment🫤
@courtneypuzzo2502
@courtneypuzzo2502 7 ай бұрын
uh Raven's second show was Hanging with Mr. Cooper which aired for 5 seasons from Sept 1992 to August 30th 1997 though Raven only appears in 4 of them from Sept 1993-August 30 1997 just shy of her 12th birthday That's so Raven premiered in January 2003 when Raven was 17 years old she is now 38 years old born Dec 10th 1985
@andrew_sone
@andrew_sone 7 ай бұрын
Kyle has been against the eat predators movement in the past now all of a sudden he’s talking about fixing problems??🥴
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel 7 ай бұрын
That's Michael, not Kyle
@christalcavanaugh
@christalcavanaugh 7 ай бұрын
I think it is completely valid to say “I didn’t experience these things” or even “I did not witness them happening personally” but speaking out on something when you admit to not knowing about it is pretty odd to me
@iadesigns
@iadesigns 7 ай бұрын
How is Orlando Brown completely missing from this? Hez completely messed up mentally over the years of abuse and in the midst of his own breakdowns has called out Raven as a handler. Hes spoken out for years. She has *barely* spoken out. People taken Amanda seriously, but not Orlando?
@Bardes82
@Bardes82 7 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with this. Honestly, I think that when men act up due to abuse it's much harder for the general public to accept it or show empathy maybe? I think it's disgusting and I'm happy that more men in Hollywood are starting to speak out. Hopefully that reduces some of the stigma attached. I really hope Orlando Brown addresses what happened to him, either privately or publicly, and finds peace.
@belughlegosi
@belughlegosi 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@MsCat108
@MsCat108 7 ай бұрын
Clock itt
@asleezy
@asleezy 7 ай бұрын
Omg I remember crying when Raven and Devon broke up!! 😂😂😂
@aj.meso26
@aj.meso26 7 ай бұрын
As an adult, Raven continues to carry herself well and speaks eloquently. She is definitely the person to speak about being a child actor and loved through each role/leading role. Those who understand, get you Raven ⭐️
@anarubio8592
@anarubio8592 7 ай бұрын
I’m really thankful for all the exposure on this matter. I hope there are changes
@brittanyparistx
@brittanyparistx 7 ай бұрын
So happy she’s speaking out!!!
@Kelly-mi1yz
@Kelly-mi1yz 7 ай бұрын
The bill cosby show and the cosbys are two separate shows
@ToriBelle96
@ToriBelle96 7 ай бұрын
Admittedly I am a bit shocked that some people are surprised by these stories, tho growing up my mom felt honesty was best so she explained the industry to me when I had wanted to try acting when I was younger. Some parents really put money over their kids and don't care what happens, others can't do anything do to fear, money issues, ect I don't think I could ever have a kid and let them in that kinda environment without me being there the whole time. I hope that hollywood gets better because no child or person should go thru such horriffic acts
@lek5599
@lek5599 7 ай бұрын
i really want to see if anyone from the zoey 101 set talks about what happened with Alexa Nikolas
@sarahmoorhead8146
@sarahmoorhead8146 7 ай бұрын
It’s unfortunately not practical to have a child actor’s earnings blocked from parental use. Child actors are usually working full time hours. If you agree that parents need to be on set, then how would a parent be involved and present if they worked full time jobs, themselves? So while yes, the child is earning money for their family, their parents are also commuting, scheduling, and watching their child on set as their job.
@Deus_ex_lucifina
@Deus_ex_lucifina 7 ай бұрын
Legislation could require all child actor earnings to be put in a trust for when they turn 18, and parents can make a percentage off that as their manager…that’s already a pretty common practice. And while they are at it, enact stricter child safety laws and background checks on productions, as well as incentives to parents to have their child join SAG-AFTRA, which also limits how much a manager can make off actor earnings. It’s not a complete solution, but it’s in the right direction. Also, if you can’t make money independent of your child and still be able to monitor their safety and security, you should be at work and your child should be at school. Maybe that would limit child acting pursuits to high income families, but oh well. Children shouldn’t be working at all IMO, and the only industry that normalizes it also preys upon them.
@hotwheels_1997
@hotwheels_1997 7 ай бұрын
It's 100% percent practical to have a child actor's earnings blocked from parental use! It's a parents job to earn money for their family, not the child's. So many parents work full time jobs while also having to pay for childcare. It'd be no different even if the parents have to work, they should have to have someone else or hire someone to be with their child on set, with the wellbeing of said child as their first priority. Parents only have to put in 15% of the money their child earns to be untouched until the child is 18. And since it should be the parents that have to provide for their families, there should be 85% of the child's money left and that is PLENTY to be able to afford to pay someone to stay on set and take their child to and from set when needed. Also, parents of non child actors have to make sure their child gets to and from daycare/school or they stay at home with their child while also working from home, etc. parents should NOT have the use of a child actor's money just because they want to get paid for doing what a parent is SUPPOSED to do. They're basically selling their child because they don't want to work themselves.
@dempos
@dempos 7 ай бұрын
@@hotwheels_1997 Nonsense. It would make no sense to have to hire someone to watch their child or have to keep working a regular job(s). Yes, like most already do, they shouldn't frivolously spend all their child's earnings and have a majority in savings. But to dictate how a parent is to parent or say the parents have to provide no matter what is just ridiculous.
@mandys1038
@mandys1038 7 ай бұрын
It is practical, parents make the choice to have their children in this industry and it is not fair that they get to utilize their children's hard earned money on themselves. Look at how many child stars have ended up suing their parents or complaining about how their parents spent all their earnings. There should be laws in place that kids earnings be put in a trust, at least half of it.
@TheDawnofVanlife
@TheDawnofVanlife 7 ай бұрын
@@mandys1038Buying a house they all live in is not ‘using it for themselves’ if the child is living there, using electricity and water, eating etc. that being said, I think there should. Be a federal law on percentage of use for ‘daily needs’ (including putting gas in the car to drive their kid to set). Not as their manager, but as their parent. I think the manager should actually not be the parent in most cases, but a seperate entity. The parent should be onset to observe and protect, not manage the kids career. And a portion of the kids salary allowing that to happen is fine.
@animefantastic9705
@animefantastic9705 7 ай бұрын
I am glad people are finally taking this seriously. Former child stars like Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, etc were telling people a long time ago that this was happening and instead of looking into it, they were made into media spectcles and laughed at. I am so GLAD people are finally paying attention.
@Pjbassjam
@Pjbassjam 7 ай бұрын
Shows in Vancouver bc shows always had the parents there always They even had monitors for the parents to watch
@yrbelite8450
@yrbelite8450 7 ай бұрын
7:48 Logan and Jake Paul. They’ve over stayed their welcoming way to long. They get cancelled left and right but yet still have huge careers..it’s pitiful……
@bellablondie712
@bellablondie712 7 ай бұрын
I fully agree that child actors should have all of their wages paid to them, but are there any videos or articles about what we would do with the parents? If we pass a new law and they’re going to abide by it and still be by their child’s side everyday on set, how can they earn an income? And if they take time off to support their child’s career, they’re hurting their career long term. So it makes it almost impossible for a child without wealthy family backing them to become a professional. Is there any news or thoughts on this I’ve missed? I’ve just been curious lately.
@dempos
@dempos 7 ай бұрын
There isn't a problem with the way it is now for the decent parents. Like Raven and Chris'. The parents should have a savings for their children while being able to access it, if needed, to make sure the child has everything they need. The child should also be able to use some of their own money for things they want. Just should have mandatory wellness checks for the child and the family by a professional for social, mental and financial health.
@Alejandra.answers
@Alejandra.answers 7 ай бұрын
There’s no federal law because honestly it kinda makes sense that kids in the industry is a legal loophole for the pdfiles
@marieneu264
@marieneu264 7 ай бұрын
9:25 Exactly! Look what’s been all over the internet about Honey Boo Boo and her mom
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate raven stearing the conversation child star need to be protected hope this empower more who afraid to speak out absolutely come forward, and tell their story.
@NayaBarcelona
@NayaBarcelona 7 ай бұрын
I really wish Chris had watched the documentary before going on the podcast. But it’s understandable in case something would trigger him.
@barkey-ng1xd
@barkey-ng1xd 7 ай бұрын
i am a manager/boss and would never yell at my employees EVER. that’s extremely abusive and not okay
@FreshAirWomanism
@FreshAirWomanism 7 ай бұрын
Raven has exposed Hollywood/Genral social toxicity over & over again, love that!!❤ This has always been a dangerous ground to tred
@veronicawilson2921
@veronicawilson2921 7 ай бұрын
It is comforting knowing that the teachers held a lot of authority… those that didn’t abuse it. This sounds more suitable for CHILDREN
@ItsJustSugarCookie
@ItsJustSugarCookie 7 ай бұрын
Two Minutes in and Raven already talks with privilege though. She already had a name for herself career wise which offered her a level of protection that other child stars didn't have. I don't think it's right to say the other parents were star struck - in the documentary it was painted as otherwise. They were horrified and felt powerless.
@matxalenc8410
@matxalenc8410 7 ай бұрын
That's a good point.
@laurafabianmarrero
@laurafabianmarrero 7 ай бұрын
Give me a break Drake mother was totally star struck She did the oppossite of what her ex warn her about And that is how Drake abuse happen So yes some parents were horrified and felt powerless But not all of them
@ItsJustSugarCookie
@ItsJustSugarCookie 7 ай бұрын
@@laurafabianmarrero Drakes mom seemed disinterested in being a parent - not star struck. And we aren’t talking about his situation. Where did I mention him?
@mandys1038
@mandys1038 7 ай бұрын
Raven was speaking the truth, there are parents out there that are hungry for money and fame and don't protect their children. It doesn't matter if you make a name for yourself in the industry, you can still end up being a victim to the dark side of fame.
@ItsJustSugarCookie
@ItsJustSugarCookie 7 ай бұрын
@@mandys1038 She says overall the parents were power hungry and star struck. By saying that, you are removing the industry as a whole, from fault. Which is wrong.
@missmarthafawker
@missmarthafawker 7 ай бұрын
Every adult on every set with children should on some level (wether they like kids or not) want the rules to be followed so that children can be safe. And i find it interesting when they dont care. Because we all know they would care if it was there own kids.
@gabriellepina5580
@gabriellepina5580 7 ай бұрын
There are officers everywhere in the schools I’m surprised there isn’t one standing on every corner of every set? There are intimacy coordinators on set who monitor certain scenes for adults why can’t there be child care personnel on set to be with and stand up for the child at all times?? Crazy how they got away with this for so long we were so blindsided😢
@Liekmudkipz
@Liekmudkipz 7 ай бұрын
It’s crazy that it’s 2024 and parents can still spend their actor child’s paycheck
@Otakugatothequeen
@Otakugatothequeen 7 ай бұрын
Not an actor, but my folks would spend my cheques while I worked under their roof.
@Liekmudkipz
@Liekmudkipz 7 ай бұрын
@@Otakugatothequeen might as well not work at all then and enjoy childhood
@Otakugatothequeen
@Otakugatothequeen 7 ай бұрын
@@Liekmudkipz Wasn't an option with my parents. I'm 28 now and live on my own, though.
@mayhem0001
@mayhem0001 7 ай бұрын
It's heart breaking what these babies went through all for someone else to get the power and money!
@Kaelynjschneider
@Kaelynjschneider 7 ай бұрын
I don’t like that she’s saying different cultures are more protective. It has nothing to do with culture. Everybody is protective of their children. It’s just specific people who are less protective due to their own circumstances! I’m mixed Alaskan native and white both sides of my family are very overprotective but specific people within each side had addiction issues or issues which would cause them to be over or less protective of their children
@jetetarro
@jetetarro 7 ай бұрын
Chris not seeing the documents then saying that coaches screen was a little dismissive of abuse.. come on man
@chelseascaffidi4730
@chelseascaffidi4730 7 ай бұрын
Is anyone checking on child stars today?
@therockbottom5256
@therockbottom5256 7 ай бұрын
These days Nobody is perfect, but Raven is notable enough to create real change.
@JoycelynDeAnn
@JoycelynDeAnn 7 ай бұрын
I was literally just saying this. Looking back at it, you can tell their parents were involved. Just the fact of the jokes, the vibe of the show was way more family oriented. I feel the same way where my parents wouldn’t have let me out their sight.
@gabrielgreenboy5733
@gabrielgreenboy5733 7 ай бұрын
I hope the next documentary be about kids who been abused at school and it could be called “Quiet in Class” I would love to share that story with everyone so people would know bullying is NOT ok not even in a public environment in education
@debidehm9129
@debidehm9129 7 ай бұрын
The child actor should also have a non partial representative that has the child’s best interest at heart. This might be a good position for ex-child actors who have the know how, knows what to look out for.
@cali.girllivinnnevada8
@cali.girllivinnnevada8 7 ай бұрын
Paris, you need to protect your children, especially if they are going to LA or a.k.a. *Hollywood!!* but not only that children need legal protection as well. More needs to be done. Edit: Other states *NEED* to follow suit.
@hill9948
@hill9948 7 ай бұрын
He should have watched the documentary to understand the full conversation that is being had around the industry. Yes, his experiences are valid, but he should really take the time to watch the show that has got the ball rolling on this topic again.
@sassillama9873
@sassillama9873 7 ай бұрын
I must break it to everyone….Kids or anyone does not have to do acting in fact there’s many other things people can do making a living. Such as going to school, or having a job. Within those choices are a pluthera of options!
@Zee_1003
@Zee_1003 7 ай бұрын
HOW does the most powerful country in the world NOT have laws protecting children in the showbiz industry??? how???
@MsCat108
@MsCat108 7 ай бұрын
Money and greed
@thesleepyravenclaw6260
@thesleepyravenclaw6260 7 ай бұрын
Wait, Raven Symone has a PODCAST?!?! I need the name so I can listen!
@maribildiaz4504
@maribildiaz4504 7 ай бұрын
It’s Call “Tea Time” With Raven And Miranda.
@goodgirl6934
@goodgirl6934 7 ай бұрын
Raven was and is right about children entertainment industry!
@heatherabbe662
@heatherabbe662 7 ай бұрын
I love Ravon. Amazing actress and American
@LeeKerr-gb4rc
@LeeKerr-gb4rc 7 ай бұрын
I think simone raven doesnt want to speak up because her family could be under fire... Something happened to her but she wont disclose probably from embarrassment or threats.
@Vhlentine
@Vhlentine 7 ай бұрын
Never clicked so fast on your video! There needs to be change!
@Notsbaby
@Notsbaby 7 ай бұрын
It is FAULSE that there isn't standard regulation for child actors on set. The regulation comes from SAG the union not the gov however. All of these child stars would of had, standard rates, maximum number of work hours, and tutors as per SAG. Unfortunately breaking these rules results in only fines/sanctions, boycotts from SAG and there would be no criminal charges against production
@deannasoulpunk
@deannasoulpunk 7 ай бұрын
Poor Raven having to be around Bill Cosby 🙁
@ZavaXavier
@ZavaXavier 7 ай бұрын
Speaking like a true WS troll.
@dempos
@dempos 7 ай бұрын
But no one had a problem with Cosby. If anything, he was an example of a good work environment for children, cast, crew, writers and inclusion on a set. Thank God she got to work with Cosby first, before being on sets & shows for kids.
@Jay-bo1gs
@Jay-bo1gs 7 ай бұрын
They don't pay the background actors minimum wage either. Having no labour laws are being exploited for multiple types of workers.
@missmarthafawker
@missmarthafawker 7 ай бұрын
I actually thought the coogan law was national and a lot of people may think this. But actors also need to get there money at 21 rather than 18 although at 18 they should have a bigger allowance, but do it this way so the kids can have time to learn how to deal with money rather than spending a lump sum quickly……..
@SkarGig
@SkarGig 7 ай бұрын
Didnt everyone hate on Chris when he came out or was that Orlando Brown and I'm mixing them up?
@goddammitalana
@goddammitalana 7 ай бұрын
How are you mixing them up they weren't even on the same network
@GLET_theamateur
@GLET_theamateur 7 ай бұрын
its so silly and a real slap in the face how much the actually working person goes through before change is made. it shouldn't always have to come down to years long of court meetings to make a decision. it should come down to us more often. making changes as a collective party. i dont mean just voting. but life is what we make it. if someone can make up a leader and call them president, make new rules whenever they feel, that should be enough to say those rules dont apply in the world we live in anymore.
@omoxo
@omoxo 7 ай бұрын
I still think about unaliving an old manager who yelled at me.
@bobo8778
@bobo8778 7 ай бұрын
It must have been worth it for Raven because she has 40 million dollars in the bank. Crying about it in a mansion shouldn't hurt too bad.
@Kat_Stewart
@Kat_Stewart 7 ай бұрын
Girl don’t being cultures into this. If that was the case usher would have been protected too
@karlav267
@karlav267 7 ай бұрын
and Aaliyah and the boys from B2K.
@elle-says
@elle-says 7 ай бұрын
Its surprising to me that they have social workers as educators. Advocacy is inherent to the social work profession but not academic education. Social work is more aligned with counseling and therapy than education. Maybe an additional change should be reassigning the social worker as an advocate and counselor and have them partner with an actual educator.
@lilianjenae
@lilianjenae 6 ай бұрын
The power has to remain in the state for checks and balances. The govmt f’s up everything. So if you don’t like a law or lack of a law bring it up to your state officials. They cannot ignore the issue if you bring it up to them. This stuff takes work and it’s not up to the federal govmt.
@Monicamojito
@Monicamojito 7 ай бұрын
Alexa Nikolas is about to come for them and demonize them for being honest about their lived experience instead of bashing Dan to death
@MsCat108
@MsCat108 7 ай бұрын
??? She hasn't said anything
@kimmyt1024
@kimmyt1024 7 ай бұрын
They should make some sort of a guardians wage for the parents. I understand that they probably don’t have regular jobs if they’re on set with their kids. Give the kids their wage and pay the parents 10% of what they earn
@Luminousmorrow
@Luminousmorrow 7 ай бұрын
We needs rights for children. It's extremely bizarre we live in a society where parents basically keep them prisoner.
@NyhaHarrison
@NyhaHarrison 7 ай бұрын
Idk why he even went on the pod it was pointless he know for a fact the type of shit that happened . He only came out to say a little something to get more clout I feel …it’s giving he probably took hush money also
@LeeKerr-gb4rc
@LeeKerr-gb4rc 7 ай бұрын
I'm sick of it too It seems like they want change but won't tell us their own personal stories I believe they knew exactly what went on but have been silenced or paid off... The way raven says Dan's name tells me all I need to know.
@Damien832
@Damien832 3 ай бұрын
@@LeeKerr-gb4rcExactly, and ravens knows too she probably won’t say anything because she is still down with it behind the scenes
@brookeo.2760
@brookeo.2760 7 ай бұрын
I do think parents should get some of the money because parents do a lot for their kids to get to this point, especially if they need to be on set with their kid But it should be like a 30% max
@LeeKerr-gb4rc
@LeeKerr-gb4rc 7 ай бұрын
As children working they need some money put away in adult hood, the parents jus take the money the kids grow up with nothing but abuse and broken dreams. It's disgusting
@brookeo.2760
@brookeo.2760 7 ай бұрын
@@LeeKerr-gb4rc I think their should be a law parents get 30% max
@KaisWorld1687
@KaisWorld1687 7 ай бұрын
All these people knew this was going on then and said/ did nothing even after coming of age etc none of these stars said anything until now. How many kids could've been saved 20 years in the making?
@FelishaMarie24
@FelishaMarie24 7 ай бұрын
This is hypocrisy, how could she said that and not say absolutely nothing about Orlando Brown situation? Do you guys think about that? Why hasn’t she done anything? She’s part of the whole circus 🎪 that’s why he’s insane and she’s still relevant.
@Noturbfpanini
@Noturbfpanini 7 ай бұрын
Part of me wants to still look up to her and love her for so many things but Orlando has been trying to say lots of things about the abuse he's endured.. idk feels like we'll never really get the full truth from her & she's a bit hypocritical
@should_probably_change_handle
@should_probably_change_handle 7 ай бұрын
Raven probably didn't address Orlando Brown because his experience isn't theirs to tell. Also, we're unsure if they are on speaking terms; Orlando did say some messed-up stuff about Raven in the past. Honestly, people should let Orlando be and shouldn't force him; from what I've read, he's doing better and getting healthy; there's no need to reignite the trauma.
@JimmyDeneus-e9k
@JimmyDeneus-e9k 7 ай бұрын
Is f up how this industry is
@jas6207
@jas6207 7 ай бұрын
as a child i always had dreams to be a child star and all the glitz and glamour but im really glad i didnt i have very strong feelings my mother would have been a “i want my child to be a star” mother based on the fact we 1 grew up in poverty and 2 shes a drug addict narcissist
@Noturbfpanini
@Noturbfpanini 7 ай бұрын
It's kind of conflicting because Raven is really close with Jojo Siwa who promised girls a whole career only to be lied to and mistreated by her & her mother. So is she advocating for the rights of those young ladies too? Idk maybe she's had talks with her about it behind the scenes...
@Bradley-nn8it
@Bradley-nn8it 3 ай бұрын
If some big time producer no matter what the industry was walked into a room and started yelling and cussing at me I would get up in their face and tell him get the fuck out of my face and get the hell out of this room because you're not gonna talk to me any which way you feel like talking to me. I'm probably one of those types of people that probably won't be well liked in the industry because I'm not afraid to speak my mind and no one's gonna shut me up
@Elissa_Marie
@Elissa_Marie 7 ай бұрын
Drakes Bell’s dad kept him safe until he was pushed out of the picture. Drake’s dad was always close by and watched his son like a hawk on set to make sure he was okay and he wasn’t harmed. It wasn’t until drake’s mom took over when Brian peck talked her and drake into firing his dad. He even warned his ex wife about Brian peck when he was fired as drakes manager. He told her something was off and how he was acting weird with their son. She blew him off. I think it’s really sad she trusted a complete stranger rather than her son’s father who had been in that world with their son the entire time. I think she let her disdain for her ex husband get in the way of her judgement. Drakes dad was a good parent and protected him. Drakes mother on the other hand didn’t do anything to protect him. As soon as she took over drake was harmed.
@ashhpink8939
@ashhpink8939 7 ай бұрын
Drake Bell parents was clearly not watching him all of the time. Once his manager was able to replace his father as manager his mother, had no problem, sending him unsupervised with that man
@MsCat108
@MsCat108 7 ай бұрын
Just his mama not his daddy
@CAS11236
@CAS11236 7 ай бұрын
Why go on a podcast to give your opinion on a topic without watching the documentary that re-sparked the conversation? I feel like he would have so much more to say or think on if he had watched it
@Curlygurly81
@Curlygurly81 7 ай бұрын
It wasn't the Bill Cosby Show it was just the Cosby Show
@ccxcrazy
@ccxcrazy 7 ай бұрын
Kids working on set is not seen as child labour because these shows are big business and these production companies have influence in government and formation of laws. The government isnt working in the interest of kids, they are working in the interest of those who fund their election campaigns, give them gifts, etc.
@tracymichelle2624
@tracymichelle2624 7 ай бұрын
Yes! Its crazy what some egg and sp3rm donors (because those people dont deserve being called parents) will do just to get their kids in the spot light. One of the Sacha Baron Cohen movies he did a social experiemnt where he made a false casting call for babies and saying stuff like "we want to put the baby in a pit of poisonous snakes for the pictures" and like 99 percent of the people went along with it. The things that he was saying is wild and some of the moms were just like 🤷‍♀️ as long as the check clears
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