Raza Rumi Unfiltered: Pakistan’s Crisis | India’s Rise | The Path to Peace

[@Padosidesi2828]

Great interview. Enjoyed Rumi’s exposition and the host’s timely interventions. Thanks!

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! 😊 Really glad you enjoyed the conversation. Raza Rumi’s insights always make for a thought-provoking discussion, and I appreciate your kind words about the hosting as well. Hope to bring more engaging conversations your way 🙏

[@RajaM-i5r]

Indians of this era must thank the divine intervention that resulted in partition of India in 1947. India would never have attained the stature in the world that it has now, had this lot stayed back.

[@mammenmatthew939]

@@RajaM-i5r wholly agree. Imagine 40 crore more, had they remained with a majority having jihadi mentality and hate for Hindus that they have, we would have long been turned into a Syria, Gaza or Sudan. When we see Pakistan and bangladesh today, we realise how blessed we are!

[@harminderkaur4994]

We all patriotic Indian must realise the fact that nehru Gandhi kept 1/3 of muslims in India pourly for VOTE BANK PURPOSES, Indian GDP would have crossed 7 trillion with per capita income of 6000 ,had these been driven out

[@dineshshetty875]

We 🇮🇳 must thank Jinnah

[@RajaM-i5r]

@ Pardon me, that's very simplistic!!

[@manjulmayankshukla7852]

Truely a gentle man and well read person mr Rumi, and a great effort by Mr usman too,a proper balanced analysis ❤

[@stallionspirit9317]

At timestamp...40:30 ...anchor/guest: "why are indian muslims still poor"? "becoz they are persecuted" .... Really??? Allow me to burst the bubble>>> average Household wealth in UK by ethnicity in 2018>>> - 1. Indian (GBP 495,000) 2. Pakistani (GBP 302,000) 3. Bangladesh (GBP 141,000)...Inspite of similar education...and large contigent of rich pakistanis in UK...Indians are still 65% better ....the problem is the average muslim mindset towards education and life in general (no matter where they end up)!...

[@bhaskerverma9503]

@@stallionspirit9317 then why is Pakistan still bhikhari

[@ranjeetsarker1304]

Have some shame. 🤣🤣

[@bhaskerverma9503]

@@stallionspirit9317 bhikaristan like always

[@stallionspirit555]

@@ranjeetsarker1304 shame for shaming pakistanis??..lol

[@srijandatta287]

@ Why?

[@goswami_7775]

I’ve lived in a Hindu-majority society in Gujarat for many years, where our community was peaceful. Things began to change when a Muslim mullah bought land in the center of our area and built a mosque. The loudspeakers for the call to prayer became a major disturbance, especially in the mornings and evenings, making many of us uncomfortable in our own homes. Soon after, around 70-80 young men started gathering at the mosque for namaz every day. While attending prayers is normal, their behavior outside the mosque created problems. These young men would often stay around the area after prayers, talking loudly and hanging around. Many local women, including my family, began to feel unsafe as the men made inappropriate comments, whistled, and stared at them as they walked by. Some even followed the women, making them feel harassed and uncomfortable in their own neighborhood. This constant behavior created fear and unease, especially in a place where women had always felt secure. The situation worsened during the planning of a Hindu festival procession. The traditional route passed near the mosque, but the new Muslim residents objected, causing tension during what should have been a time of celebration. As tensions grew, many Hindu families, including mine, sold their homes at lower prices. Muslim families from other areas took advantage of these lower prices, changing the society’s makeup. The issue wasn’t about religion itself, but how certain actions and behaviors disrupted the peace and unity of our community, leading to growing resentment.

[@MukhbirNama]

I am really sorry to hear about your experience. I hope those men got punished for their bad behavior.

[@ANIKETKUMAR-vh3yr]

​@@MukhbirNamaagar punishment dengai toh tum log phir sai vahi chooran bechogai ki Muslim are linched and threatened in india 😂😂.

[@MukhbirNama]

Ji sahab kyon kay punishment dayna courts ka kaam hay. Sar tan say juda type walon ka nahi 🙏 humaray Ghamdi Sahab bhi yehi kehtay hein 😂

[@ANIKETKUMAR-vh3yr]

Jabab akhir Mai aap nai apni kttarta dikha hi di .Yai dekh Kai lagta hai Yogiji is right ✅ .

[@MukhbirNama]

Maaf kijye ga sahab mein aap ki baat samjh nahi saka. Zara explain kar dein? 🙏

[@parveenswami3693]

People have credit card debit card but muslim has victim card.

[@MukhbirNama]

Hilarious! Thank you for sharing :)

[@sathyat6760]

​@@MukhbirNamawhat's funny. For 75 yrs the same victim card played . The country was created playing the same card and got new country and still millions remained here again. Were they r they 1st attack and when other retaliate play victim card of minority, Islamophobia. Weak Nehru gave free run to them , that's why they were doing turturm even now like unruly children. So how to control unruly children

[@demongmail]

What is Hillarious in this?Jihadi Islam is becoming PANAUTI .

[@ANIKETKUMAR-vh3yr]

@@MukhbirNama Well who knows better then you Pakistanies 🤣🤣

[@mayurpatel8119]

They say Good about india but criticise modi because of deep hate for Hindus

[@M_R___974]

Exactly. They hate the incumbent "Hindu-est" guy in India. Nehru then, modi now

[@Skyo.o]

far left ki congress thi inki tab nhi daal gali ab so called "hindu nationalist.. far right wing rss member" k sath to inhone kya hi pyar ki baat karni hai

[@MukhbirNama]

I can assure you there is no hate for Hindus here and some of my best friends are Hindus 🙏 For Modi Ji, I have nothing but the greatest respect for his achievements are amazing even if we just consider the economic miracle India has seen.

[@MysticSage-hg3jh]

Don't worry about their opinion They are little people, just watch it as entertainment if you want. Don't take little people so seriously

[@JackBlackSM]

@@MukhbirNama The world has been a witness to the absolute decimation of minorities in Pakistan. Minority girls have been kidnapped and forcibly converted in lakhs. Places of worship have been destroyed enmasse! And then one has to watch Pakistani hypocrites gloat over Modi, Hindutva and talk about safety of minorities in India. The world doesn't buy the Pakistani narrative exactly because of this hypocrisy and hollow bravado! It is on the bottom of every global index of progress yet the big talking doesn't stop.

[@PanakaluPoonakam]

Indian momins are not different from Pakistani momins. They both have identical attitude towards education, science, society and progressivism. So if you can find answer to the question why Pakistani momins are poor and have low levels of literacy then the same applies to Indian momins as well. And its important to remember India is a poor country and we don't have money to throw on unproductive people. In India you work hard, get well educated the world is your oyster (just like elsewhere). H!indus, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists, Christians, Parsis have the drive to work hard /smart and hence see success. If Indian momins are left behind, its their own problem. Its their leadership that has failed them (momins vote for their own leaders). I hope I was able to convey my ideas well. Cheers and best wishes!

[@MukhbirNama]

I thank you for your comment and hope my response is received in the right tone. You’ve raised an important point about the role of education, leadership, and self-improvement in determining a community’s progress. It is absolutely true that hard work, education, and adaptability are key factors in success, and these values should be encouraged across all communities, including Indian or Pakistani Muslims. However, the idea that Muslims are solely responsible for their socio-economic conditions oversimplifies a much more complex reality. If we look at historical and economic data going back from almost 20 years, the Sachar Committee Report (2006) and subsequent studies, including the Post-Sachar Evaluation Committee (2014) and Oxfam India Discrimination Report (2022), show that Indian Muslims face systemic challenges in education, employment, and economic mobility. While other communities have progressed, Muslims have lagged behind due to a combination of socio-political, economic, and policy factors. It is not just about individual effort-institutional barriers, discrimination in hiring and housing, lack of access to resources, and policy neglect all play a role in shaping the outcomes for any community. It is also important to recognize that Muslims are not a monolithic group. There are highly successful Muslims in India-scientists, business leaders, professionals, and entrepreneurs-just as there are underprivileged individuals struggling with poverty and illiteracy. The same can be said for many other communities, as poverty and lack of opportunity are not exclusive to any one group. I hope you can see that Instead of blaming an entire community, it would be more constructive to focus on solutions, such as improving access to quality education, increasing job opportunities, and fostering entrepreneurship among underprivileged groups, including Muslims. I'll freely admit that leadership within the community is certainly a factor on both sides of the border, but systemic change requires broader societal support as well. If India truly believes in equal opportunities for all, then focusing on inclusive development policies rather than stereotyping communities would be a more effective approach. At the end of the day, a nation progresses when all its citizens are empowered, regardless of their religious identity. That is the real path to a stronger and more prosperous India which I hope Pakistan can follow 🙏 Cheers and best wishes to you as well! 😊

[@MysticSage-hg3jh]

@@MukhbirNama don't worry about India , talk about Pakistan. We gave Muzlims West and East Pakistan in 1947. It is our large heartedness that we are still caring for 180 Million Muzlims in India at the cost of more than $200 Billion annually. Muzlims are much more better off in India than in Paxtan. If you open the gates for Indian Muzlims, i doubt that even 2 million out of 180 million would go to Paxtan. That shows where they feel better. If more than 90 million go to Paxtan then naturally you are giving them a better deal. And it's not like they are an Asset for India in any manner. Paxtanis love to give examples of SRK, Salman Khan etc. But, what they don't understand is that SRK, Salman would be serving Pizza or working in a Call center if they were born in Paxtan. It's beause of Hindu/Sikh Movie go-ers, and Hindu Directors, Singers, Film Editors, Screenwriters, Producers, Talent Agents etc. that SRK and Salman became so big. It's because we let them become big. Have you allowed any Hindu or Sikh to rise in Paxtan. You immediately ask them change their ''Mazhab'' when you start feeling that the guy is becoming big. So you focus on feudal 600 A.D Paxtan, don't worry about India

[@JaiShivrai]

@@MukhbirNama what do you want us to do for them when they are producing like rabbits and say bacche toh allah ki den hain and want govt to give them jobs?? Bhai looking at our population and with tht comes competition. Indian Muslims need to reform. we come frm backward class n sc class even we work our ass off to get a job and live a decent lifestyle. Other communities get education work hard and hv no complaints even if they hv they never done sir tan se juda or stone pelting. Only this second majority community has a problem with everything. Why??? Just think

[@ac_te_c_]

​​@@MukhbirNamaAbsolutely correct, in India if you look at welfare for deprived of economically weaker communities education is free, medical is free even certain extent monthly ration is subsidized. This upto the individual family unit how they use their share from Government.

[@MukhbirNama]

I can assure you that they are no longer producing like rabbits as the fertility rate of both Hindu and Muslim women has been decreasing and has come more or less in line as per the latest stats. I am interested in your answer though. Do you think it is because of their religion alone?

[@anuchugh31]

When a country has blasphemy laws and have literally said Ahmedis are by law not Muslims, it doesn’t have right to lecture others who give equal rights to all citizens by constitution. No police has to guard any sects mosques in India. We can’t forget 26/11

[@MukhbirNama]

You're absolutely right. It is unforgettable. Dr. Bangash recently did a podcast with us and noted a very interesting dichotomy when it comes to the horrible discrimination against Ahmedis in Pakistan. Please do watch it when it has been uploaded 🙏

[@CGT127]

A Turning point in History we Indians are not just rebuilding an economy we are reviving a civilization witness the rise as we approach a major global milestone.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for saying that. It is amazing to see a glorious India rise! 🙏

[@venex2611]

We are blessed to have such a dumb enemy....they have no clue about Bharat

[@MukhbirNama]

Aray sahab, dumb to tab hotay jab Google Maps pay bhi Bharat dhundnay mein fail ho jatay! 🤣 But thanks for the shared blessing-now just waiting for the 'smart enemy' upgrade. Pata nahi kab ho? 😜😂

[@praveerkrishnatiwari1383]

@@MukhbirNama pakistani strategy maker and thinker have zero knowledge about Bharat this is the main reason pakistani lost every war

[@venex2611]

@@MukhbirNama Exhibit B of a low IQ response

[@MukhbirNama]

Sahab Exhibit C bhi aa gaya? 😂

[@MukhbirNama]

You might be entirely right about that. Thank you for sharing your thoughts 🙏

[@AnujKumar-wj3ju]

Who lynched kanaiyalal, it's Muslims, who burn Godhra train killed hindu it's Muslims, who did Delhi riots it's Muslims.,who did Bombay riots it's Muslims, who did muzaffarnagar riots it's Muslims, who did Bhagalpur riots it's Muslim, who did genocide of Hindu in Kashmir it's Muslim, but according to the gentleman Raza rumi Muslims are persecuted communities by Hindu 🕉️ he is lying in broad daylight like a good islamist. 🙏

[@MukhbirNama]

I believe this comment deserves a fuller response because when discussing communal conflicts, it's essential to recognize that both Hindus and Muslims have suffered at different times and places. The 1984 anti-Sikh riots, the 2002 Gujarat riots, and numerous other incidents have shown that no community has a monopoly on suffering. It is also worth noting that law and order failures, political interference, and systemic injustices often play a larger role in perpetuating violence than religion itself. Responsible discussions should focus on accountability and justice rather than reinforcing stereotypes about any one group. The idea that Muslims as a whole are responsible for violence overlooks the millions who live peacefully, contribute to society, and aspire for progress just like any other community. Many Muslims have been victims of violence themselves, such as during the Hashimpura massacre (1987) or the Gujarat riots, and countless others who seek peace and coexistence are unfairly vilified. Similarly, many Hindus, Sikhs, and other minorities have faced hardships in different contexts. Recognizing the suffering of all communities is the only way to move towards a society where such incidents no longer happen. I hope you will agree that instead of using past tragedies to fuel present-day divisions, we should work towards a future where these mistakes are not repeated. I feel that societies grow stronger when people engage in meaningful dialogue, acknowledge each other’s pain, and strive for justice without bias towards Hindu or Muslim. True strength lies in fostering unity, not in reinforcing narratives of eternal conflict. Let’s encourage conversations that heal rather than those that divide 🙏

[@siddhantforbharat]

1984 sikh roits was a mistake of congress government and muslims started the 2002 riots go and read about it if you start war like hamas you have to suffer. Mostly terrorist organisation's are of muslims only have you ever seen a man doing blast saying jai shri ram.By closing the eyes reality didn't change ​@@MukhbirNama

[@shreyasrajeeva7409]

The Hindus have clearly suffered, don't forget moplah hindu genocide, kashmiri hindu/sikhs genocide, genocide of Hindus in Bangladesh.

[@srijandatta287]

@ Raza rumi tried to portray it as one dimensional, we can agree it is multifaceted. Victim from every community. But raza tried to say they are institutionally persecuted now, which just furthers the division. Maybe, like you bring nuance in the comment section, do it during the interview as well, as it becomes extremely skewed and 1 dimensional in each one I have observed.

[@chiecken65]

​@@MukhbirNamano matter what you say..Muslims should realise one thing that it's the Islamic ideology that prescribe to spread hatred towards non Muslims.. The religion itself is thought to be final and muhammad is last messenger which is an outdated and illogical thinking.. it should first learn to respect other religions and stop thinking one day Islam will rule the world.. Moreover in Subcontinent all now called muslims are ex hindus and were converted..all your roots reach HINDUISM.. ISLAM IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF ALL YOUR PROBLEMS..UNLESS U ALL ACCEPT IT NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE..

[@Shubham0514]

Thanks Mr Jinnah for separate State. We would be in constant internal war with such religious extremism. “jo hota hai, ache ke liye hota hai”

[@MukhbirNama]

Aik Chaless Ki Last Local! Fantastic movie :)

[@Nature_is_beutiful]

​@@MukhbirNama😂😂

[@sonibhash]

Aap oodhar khush, hum idhar khush is best policy

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for sharing. It may indeed be the best policy 🙏

[@criticalthinker5764]

Wipro chairman is a Muslim he once said that he does not hire many Muslims in his company because he cannot find many qualified to be hired

[@debanjanbiswas6930]

@@criticalthinker5764 Premji?

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for letting us know. We used the Premji Foundation funded report for this podcast as well 🙏

[@Akashkumar-oi7qt]

Muslims of indian subcontinent shud know one thing, saara secularism au liberals ka theka hindus ne nhi le rakha hain

[@MukhbirNama]

You're absolutely right. Secularism should be a focus for everyone 🙏

[@AKumar-co7oe]

Raza talking about drinking water in taps, does he know about jal jeevan mission that modi has given 80 percent of rural households potable tap water in just a couple of years? Imagine how big that is for those people, should they not want to vote him back?

[@SauravYadav-i7l]

Tu bta de..na bhai.

[@MukhbirNama]

That is a fantastic program and I believe India should have more such programs 🙏

[@virendraSingh-je3sx]

It is not Modi churn but vision. It is in interest of Pakistan to have good relation with India. Madarsha education has kept muslms backward in India. Otherwise India is doing well with out Pakistan. Soon we will be 3rd largest economy in the world.

[@MukhbirNama]

You're absolutely right. As opposed to the chooran sold to Pakistan, Modi Ji's medicinal chooran seems to have really worked and woken India up 🙏 I really hope you get to see our podcast with Adeel where we've talked about the Pakistani chooran 😊

[@abhiframes]

In india there are Muslim business men who can buy Pakistan..,😊

[@MukhbirNama]

You might be quite right about it. They may even be able to get a discount on it 😂

[@parveenswami3693]

Tell this man that Hindu growth rate was contributing 28 percent in world gdp for 1800 years. Just read angus maddison book on economy from 1st AD to 2000.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for letting us know. India was the economic engine for the world for centuries 🙏

[@vg82]

Abe mandbuddhi , ye log kitab padhe gaye ??? Pagal hai Tu …

[@anandandyiyer]

@@parveenswami3693 unfortunately IQRA AND ILM ESCAPES THEM.

[@parveenswami3693]

@anandandyiyer Even Iqra was not the part of Quran. It was added in it. 😂

[@MysticSage-hg3jh]

That was actually communist rate of growth To demean Hindus they coined that term

[@onlytruthissupreme7541]

Intellectuals in Pakistan aften mistake while commenting on status of Indian Muslims. They always tend to say that Muslims in India are being discriminated in terms of economic & educational growth which is a factually incorrect narrative. The reality is that Muslims in India are/were more powerful than Hindus in the areas of social and political influence. They are lagging in educational field only because of their own attitudes towards modern education and the cause of their educational disadvantageous position is not attributable to Indian State or Hindus either.The only change happening since 2014 is that Hindus have started seeking parity with Muslims. A large section of Muslims have not yet been able to get rid of the mindset of being the superior class looks down upon Hindus as their subjects as was the case before British rule. Once Muslims would start considering Hindus as an equal counterpart start behaving on rational basis, all present problems would start vanishing.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I believe the points you have raised deserve a deeper response. I hope you'll agree that it is important to engage with data-driven analysis when discussing the socio-economic and educational conditions of Indian Muslims rather than relying on anecdotal claims or historical generalizations as you have. I assure you that some Pakistani intellectuals will do the opposite :) While it is true that some Muslims in India have reached political and social prominence, the broader reality is that the community as a whole faces significant economic and educational disadvantages, as documented in multiple government and independent reports. The claim that Indian Muslims lag behind in education purely due to their own attitudes ignores decades of research showing structural inequalities. Almost twenty years ago, the Sachar Committee Report (2006), commissioned by the Indian government, highlighted that Indian Muslims had lower literacy rates than Dalits and Scheduled Tribes, were underrepresented in government jobs, higher education, and the formal economy, and lived in worse housing conditions than most other communities. The Post-Sachar Evaluation Committee (2014), chaired by Prof. Amitabh Kundu, confirmed that Muslims continue to lag behind in key human development indicators, despite economic growth in India. More recently, the 2022 Oxfam India Discrimination Report found that Muslims face systemic discrimination in hiring practices, earning less than equally qualified Hindus. While a handful of Muslim politicians, actors, and business leaders have gained prominence, this does not translate into collective community power. The data on political representation contradicts the claim that Muslims are more powerful than Hindus. Muslims make up nearly 15% of India's population but only 4% of Parliament (Lok Sabha)-the lowest since independence. In many BJP-ruled states, Muslim candidates receive little to no political representation, despite their demographic presence. In civil services, Muslims hold less than 3% of IAS (Indian Administrative Service) positions, despite forming a significant portion of the workforce. If Muslims were politically and socially dominant, one would expect proportionate representation in legislative bodies, government institutions, and economic sectors, which is clearly not the case. The assumption that Muslims are educationally backward because of their own reluctance to modern education overlooks the structural barriers they face. In recent years, the government has withdrawn scholarships meant for minorities, such as the Maulana Azad Fellowship and pre-matric scholarships for Muslim students. Studies show that Muslims face discrimination in schools and higher education institutions, and many madrasa students are denied access to mainstream education opportunities. A significant percentage of Indian Muslims are engaged in informal labor and lack the economic security needed to pursue higher education. The Periodic Labour Force Survey (PLFS) 2021-22 shows that Muslims have lower incomes and fewer stable jobs compared to other communities. The idea that Indian Muslims still view Hindus as "subjects" from pre-British times is not supported by any contemporary sociological research. Indian Muslims, like other communities, have evolved over time and have integrated into a modern nation-state. To claim that an entire community harbors a superiority complex is a sweeping generalization that ignores social diversity and historical realities. Muslims were not the sole ruling elite in pre-British India-there were Hindu rulers, Rajput kingdoms, and Sikh states alongside Muslim rulers. The British colonial administration played a significant role in restructuring India’s social fabric, marginalizing Muslims politically and economically. Modern Indian Muslims do not live in a Mughal-era mindset but instead face contemporary challenges related to employment, education, and security. The statement that Hindus are merely "seeking parity" since 2014 ignores the fact that discrimination and marginalization of Muslims have increased significantly under the BJP government. This is well-documented. Multiple reports, including Human Rights Watch (2019) and Amnesty International, have documented the rise of mob violence targeting Muslims, often under the pretext of cow vigilantism. The claim that Muslims "choose" to ghettoize themselves ignores the fact that Muslims face housing discrimination, with many landlords and societies refusing to rent or sell homes to them. Laws like the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) and discussions around a National Register of Citizens (NRC) have been widely criticized by the international media for targeting Muslims. While it is fair to encourage self-improvement and reform within any community, ignoring systemic discrimination and blaming an entire population for its struggles is misleading. The truth is that Muslims in India face significant socio-economic and political challenges, many of which are exacerbated by state policies, political narratives, and social biases. A more constructive approach would be to focus on inclusive policies, equal opportunities, and stronger community engagement rather than relying on historical stereotypes or simplistic blame games. Societies progress when all communities are empowered, not when marginalization is justified. I really hope you will take this in the spirit it is given and not as a sign of the poverty of intellect within Pakistan 🙏

[@onlytruthissupreme7541]

@MukhbirNama Thanks a lot for the very enlighting and scholarly response. I belong to a district in eastern India having around 40% muslim population. You would appreciate that primary education upto class 10 is free in India. Even poorest of poors Hindu families send their children in Govt.schools but a section of poor muslim families send their children to Madarsas by choice & not under any compulsion. Since I have born and brought up in an area where Hindus and muslims are almost in equal numbers and I have several muslim friends so I have a fair idea how their societies operate. Since Madarsas are also funded by the Govt. in a separate manner, the Maulvis passing out from Deoband quickly establish Madarsas in places of their choice and start influencing poor families on religious grounds not to send their children in Govt. schools as the education provided there is unislamic and produces only idiots. However, the society at large remains silent and politicians support such Maulvis for votes. No one from within the society dares to tell the families to send their children to schools in place of Madarsas because if anyone dares to talk about Madarsa education, the Maulvis and their innumerable organisations with the support of politicians can make his/her life hell as they hold immence power in the muslim societies. One of my friend once dared to ask a simple question to a Maulana who was invited in a Mosque to deliver Friday surmon, about the status of his family like how many wives and children he has, where do his children study etc., this simple question has invited violent reaction from the Maulana & his supporters in the gathering simply because my friend revealed the truth before the gathering that Maulana's children are studying in a high class english medium private school whereas the Maulana was advising the people to have at least four wives and children be taught in Madarsas only. That's why I referred the attitude of Indian muslims towards modern education. The affluent and educated class muslims also openly support in establishing Madarsas simply because they don't want common/poor muslims get good and employable education as it would create competition for their privileged children in Govt. jobs. Perhaps you would not be knowing that in every Govt. jobs around 90% of muslims students are covered under constitutional mandate of reservation in Govt. jobs under the Other Backward Class (OBC) Quota alike Hindus. This OBC reservation is separate from the Sheduled Cast/Scheduled Tribe reservation.The economically backward Hindus and Muslims from among the UR (Unreserved Category) class gets reservation under the EWS Quota. Where is the discrimination with muslims as claimed by every Pakistani leade/intellectual. There is not a single law and cannot be there as well because of our secular constitution, which discrimates with muslims. But there are laws which clearly discriminate with Hindus and Hindus have accepted them in the larger public interest. Some Pakistani intellectual must study the reservation policies of India so that at least a fair and unbiased understanding be in place in Pakistan to understand the status of Indian Muslims. Just make a study of five indian muslims families and their assets and influences would rattle and dismantle the old proverbial narratives created in Pakistan to justify the gravest mistake of partition. With regards

[@hanzofunai4238]

@ Very Eloquently argued. Appreciate the write up. While you defend the Indian muslims with "The assumption that Muslims are educationally backward because of their own reluctance to modern education overlooks the structural barriers they face. " How then do you explain this with the Pakistani muslims who seem even worse off . How do you then re-concile your assertion above after factoring in the data from Pakistan?. What "structural barriers do Muslims in the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN face. Waiting for a honest ,sincere, response. Thank you !

[@Akashkumar-oi7qt]

@@MukhbirNama a hindu institutions cannot have state funding if they implement 50% reservation for hindus only otoh there are muslims instituions where muslims have at-least 50% reservations & receives state funding, the AMU birthed the pakistan movement yet the indian state(under modi also) continues to fund it & AMU have religion based reservation, there are many such institutions across states which receives state funding, it is not the responsibility of hindus to forcefully enrol muslims in colleges(agar zabardasti karenge toh genocide genocide karne lageneg), triple talaq is illiegal in pakistan also(if i'm not wrong), when govt. banned it it took a SC judgement & 2-3 years of parliamentary binkering to get that thing banned. the hindus have not failed indian muslims, it is their leaders(including those so called hindu leaders whom they vote for) who have failed them, Many states hv minority specific fundings, it is not that muslim communities have not succeeded look at bohra muslims,they are educated & rich & they have done this in gujarat(the so called hindutva laboratory) ruled by BJP since 1995

[@MukhbirNama]

I believe I have responded to this comment. Please let me know if you still need any answers there 🙏

[@maharshikraval]

In every podcast talking about Muslims are opresed and lynching but never talked about present situation of hindu in pakistan why Hindu population in pakistan are on decline have any answers?

[@MukhbirNama]

The persecution of Hindus and many other minorities in Pakistan is a huge issue that has been spoken about on this podcast and many others. We plan to raise this and other issues in our future episodes so please allow us some time to gather some steam 🙏

[@ayushmankar4100]

​@@MukhbirNama bhai ! Issues ko raise karne se agar Hinduon ki condition sudhar jati wahan to mein bhi ye chij India mein karta . Issues ko raise kar ke Indian ko jhat se superpower bana deta 😂😂😂😂 . Issues ko raise karne se koie fayeda nahi . Ground-0 se hard measures Leni padegi aapko .

[@Nature_is_beutiful]

40:30 is desh me hajar saal se raaj karne wali Kom persecuted minority hai wah Sala jitne bollywood ke star hain sab muslim Cricket me captain bhi hai muslim Army ke officer bhi muslim reh chuke hain Ab kya chahiye

[@MukhbirNama]

Haan bhai, history ka scoreboard check karna zaroori hai! 😆 Lekin agar hazar saal ka raaj guarantee deta ke aaj sab barabar hote, toh phir Dalits aur Adivasis bhi elite hote, kyunki unka bhi India par hazaron saal ka haq hai. Reality yeh hai ke political ya historical dominance aur aaj ki socio-economic position do alag cheezein hain. Sahab, mana kay Bollywood aur cricket mein muslims hain, lekin 15% population ke hisaab se overall representation dekhein toh gap hai aur yeh baat bohat sa Indian government ka data bhi show karta hay. Waise bhi, Shah Rukh Khan ka stardom ek aam Muslim ki daily struggles solve nahi karta-aur na hi ek Muslim cricket captain har Muslim ko economic growth ki guarantee deta hai. Aur Army ki baat karein toh patriotism religion se nahi, dedication se hota hai-lekin agar IAS, IPS, judiciary aur corporate sector ke numbers dekhein, toh Muslims abhi bhi underrepresented hain. Matlab, baat kisi ek celebrity ya officer ki nahi, balki collective socio-economic upliftment ki hai. Toh debate sirf 'kitne star ya captain hain' pe nahi, balki jitne log struggle kar rahe hain, unke issues pe bhi honi chahiye. Samjhe ya aur ek hazar saal ka aur history lesson Rumi sahab say lein? Aap kay comment ka bohat shukriya aur meray jawab say aap ki dil azari mazor nahi na zuban ki tezi. Siraf apni safai di hay 🙏

[@Nature_is_beutiful]

@@MukhbirNama to term change kijiye persecuted ki bajaye backward boliye Persecuted ka matlab hua majority un par hukm karti hai Rss VHP bajrang dal ke log unhe convert karna chahte hain

[@prithvireddy7058]

@@Nature_is_beutiful bhai tu kuch b bol inke dimaag me kuch nahi jayega kyunki inka bachpan me hi brainwash kiya jaata hai religion basis pe aur inke DNA me b vohi baschuka hai jab bhi baat karte hai religion beechme ghused dete hai

[@MukhbirNama]

Aray bhai, DNA ka test kab karwaya jo itna pakka bata rahe ho? 😜 Koi Ancestry.com ka premium subscription lay rakha hai? 🤣 Aur religion ki baat har jagah ghus aati hai toh kya karein-ghar kay baday boltay hain, "Beta har baat Allah pe chor do," aur hum toh bas instructions follow kar rahay hain! 🤲😂 Lekin seriously, agar brainwash ki factory hoti toh thoda math aur science bhi daal detay, taakay debates mein thoda aur logic aaye! 😆 Bas dua karo ki future generations ke syllabus mein thoda humor bhi add ho😜

[@MukhbirNama]

Sahab, term change karne se kya halaat bhi change ho jayenge? 😜 Matlab agar ‘persecuted’ ki jagah ‘backward’ bol diya toh seedha IIT ka admission mil jayega? 🤣 Aur RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal ko itna "convert karna chahte hain" ka obsession hai toh pehle apnay broadband connection ko convert kar lein, taake naye naye ideas bhi download ho sakein! 😆 Waise bhi, jo log ‘persecuted’ aur ‘backward’ ke beech debate kar rahe hain, unhe samajhna chahiye ki asli dikkat "prosecuted" hone se bachne ki hai! 😂

[@bhavinsampat590]

India should not talk to pak till it decisively take action and stop all kind of terror activities permanently.

[@MukhbirNama]

You're very right. There are many changes that Pakistan may need to make before India and Pakistan begin talking. The same point was raised in our podcast with Ms. Nayab Jan. Hope you get to share your thoughts on that as well 🙏

[@parveenswami3693]

This man dnt knw anything about Modi. Modi decided to line up west in visa line.

[@MukhbirNama]

I am really sorry I couldn't understand your comment. Could you please explain?

[@parveenswami3693]

@MukhbirNama my simple point is that people in Pakistan dnt knw wt is modi. His visa was cancelled in 2005. After that he made a statement that i want an India where westerners wants to come and beg for visas. At that time Shinzo Abe joined modi and both were behind the Gujrat Economic model. They joined hand for dedollarization. Unfortunately shinzo was killed by ccp and cia but that project is still on and first result will come out in 2025 with frist trim in dollar valuation.

[@dawasherpa2789]

Muslin in India is the most pampered lot. Still if you consider them persecuted……,please take them in Pakistan and make them prosper under shariah arrangements

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for letting us know. Much appreciated 🙏

[@PoliticalSeer-ii3wh]

Yes

[@commonman7730]

Bhai they know All They can't be alive In Pakistan If they cross line Critical ok But partial Modi praise is RIP 😂😂😂 Understand their situation

[@dgt8173]

Haha why you compare majority in pak to second majority in India, see the raise in population from Independence. Compare minority(Hindu,Sikh,Christian etc)in pak to Minority(Muslim, according to you) in India. That is the correct comparison. All you podcasts are biased

[@MukhbirNama]

I'm sure you know that a rise in population numbers is not an indicator of socioeconomic development. I can totally respect that podcasts may be biased as all human beings will bring their biases with them 🙏

[@AKumar-co7oe]

It is an indicator of absence of ethnic cleansing ​@MukhbirNama

[@prithvireddy7058]

​@@MukhbirNama😂😂 you muslims know anything about socioeconomic development?? Rather than spending whole life calling kafir to other religion people 🤣 socioeconomic development doesn't occur with the dumb people first you need to have commonsense which is lacking in most of the muslims

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for letting us know your opinions on most Muslims. I really appreciate that 🙏

[@criticalthinker5764]

Pakistani believe that this life and world is just a temporary place . The real world is Jannat . How then you believe that Pakistani can work to improve the Life on earth . Please acknowledge and don’t skirt . Leave hypocrisy be honest

[@MukhbirNama]

I am not sure how to answer it? Anyone can believe anything they wish to whatever extent they wish to believe in it. Some people believe in Santa. Some people believe in the Loch Ness Monster. It really doesn't stop them from working or living their lives day to day.

[@srijandatta287]

@ Tell me an adult who believes in santa, C'mon. God, @llah, bhagwan are just imaginary concepts which bog us down. These people are stifling progress.

[@plants005]

@@MukhbirNama this was a stupid reply! I’ve seen quite a few people talking about preparing for "akhrit” instead of trying to do better in this world

[@criticalthinker5764]

@@MukhbirNama why can you not be honest? . If people believe that this world is just a stop to heaven . Then you don’t care about this world . Believing in Santa and loc ness monster . You are being disingenuous . I have a lot of respect for you . But don’t shame your self . Only one religion’s action are incompatible with life on this earth . Pakistan will improve when you are honest about it other wise you are jawboning for financial reasons . Don’t like this hypocrisy from you

[@hanzofunai4238]

@ All that you say above is true (and cleverly argued). But the point he is trying to make (and you missed ) is that the believers in Santa and lochness are not fanatical to go blow up buildings and maim and k!ll humanity in the name of Santa. While the believers in the Paradise after and the 72 hoors are ready and willing. So one hopes you understand and accept the false equivalence in your argument construct !

[@srijandatta287]

Same old, nehru bohot accha tha narrative, ye rose tinted glasses kab nikalenge?? COK, POK dono de diya, coco islands de diya, tibet pe negotiate karlia, china ko bhai banane gaye the. Par he was socialist, socialism leke hum kya karenge, jab khane ko kuch nahi hoga? Hidnu rate of growth, a very prejudiced term being used again and again. Personal law reh ne diya in a secular state. A state should be fair, nehru was everything except that, kashmir ko 370 dia. Agar har state mange toh kya karenge, it will be a disaster in a federal state like India, central power drastically low ho jayega, isiliye ambedkar resigned and after some time nehru ne khud 1st amendment laya, status low karne ke liye. Play stup|d games win stup|d prizes. No mention of delivery water and sanitation facilities irrespective of any bias. Amrit bharat, vande bharat, namo bharat, airports, iits, iims expansion, road networks, UPI, JAM trinity. Raza should read some news rather than saying modi ne development ka churan diya. Development ke badhe mein padhoge tab toh judge karoge. No mention of lowering the number of riots and over all deaths due to communal violence. Narrative jo pakda hai, wahi regurgitate kar dia, lack of understanding and knowledge is palpable. No doubt he must know a lot about a lot of things, but the shallow analysis of these things uncovers his bias.

[@stallionspirit1576]

pakistaniz love nehru...coz as long as gandhi family ruled india...india-pakistan were hyphenated..and therefore considered equal powers...Modi destroyed that dream!...lol

[@ajitpalsinghatwal7931]

wah sanatani cave mei rahta hai.Where did you read history?? whatsup university??

[@srijandatta287]

@@ajitpalsinghatwal7931 Not santani bruh, assumptions are harmful. Any evidence of me being a sanatani, if yes prove it, if no, I know you know nothing about me, why assume??

[@ajitpalsinghatwal7931]

@@srijandatta287 prove it?? Where all courts are working for modi.answer one question what is 370 and if 370 is removed from Indian constitution

[@stallionspirit9317]

pakistaniz love nehru...coz as long as gandhi family ruled india...india-pakistan were hyphenated..and therefore considered equal powers...Modi destroyed that dream!...lol

[@ashishnair85]

Good one

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@parveenswami3693]

Bring sanjay dixit on hindutva. And bring scientist Dr. Anand rangnathan in debate with Parvez hoodboy on science.

[@MukhbirNama]

I would love to hold some conversations with those individuals. Please also let me know if there are specific questions that should be asked of them 🙏

[@parveenswami3693]

@MukhbirNama I m just copying and pasting their analysis. They r expert in their domains. For geopolitics Dr. Ankit Shah, For hinduness Hindutva Veda dr.Sanjay dixit, For history Dr. Meenakshi Jain, Vikram Sampat, For science Dr. Anand Rangnathan, For history Kornerd Elst, William darylpal, for dharma dr. David frowely kzbin.infozO-6BnZRa5E?si=Z6PGmICUG-sVlHtx

[@parveenswami3693]

@MukhbirNama My specific question to Parvez hoodboy is when Greek Historian Meganthenes saying in his book Indica that we r influenced by Bharat, and Kitab al-hisab al-Hindi is a book written by Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi, his book himself is saying its frim al hind. Then why Pakistani discredited their own ancestors when whole world recognize them.Their is no way forward without roots. A building stands on its base is always stand tall in all calamity.

[@parveenswami3693]

@MukhbirNama For Indus script which is decrypted now by an IITian.All these people r from premier institute of India and world. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bonVYaCYqbKfsM0si=ixp3rLnQOfIav66g

[@parveenswami3693]

@MukhbirNama u will b shocked that how Christians manipulated history chronology which has created 1300 years gap in timeline bcoz it was not settling according to their religion. That phenomena is called as lost 600 years from history.

[@vg82]

Sab paata hai inko … hoshiyar hai … par khud ke liye roti 🫓 nahi kaama sakte …

[@MukhbirNama]

Bilkul bhai, hum itne hoshiyar hain ke roti bhi AI se generate karwanay ka soch rahay hain! 🤖🍞 Bas aik baar ‘intellectual freelancing’ ka feature unlock ho jaye, phir roti bhi hogi aur makhan bhi 😆

[@vishvajitkumar9497]

Kaame ke kya jarruat hai jab bikh mag kar roti kah raha hai.

[@MukhbirNama]

Sahi kaha sahab. Hum baicharay ghareeb mazloom log. Roti bhi kaam parti hay aaj kal 🙏

[@vg82]

@@MukhbirNama Haan ye to hai … hum Ko Kya …

[@MukhbirNama]

Sahab yeh kia Sanatani hay kay hamsaya bhooka ho aur aap ko parwa hi na ho? :) Kabhi aap bhi koi roti khila dein? 🙏

[@Indus720]

So last time when modi visited Pathankot was served in cold blooded manner followed by URI and Pulwama and what's next ?

[@MukhbirNama]

The attacks on Pathankot, Uri, and Pulwama were tragic incidents that led to strong responses from India, both diplomatically and militarily. These events have undoubtedly shaped India’s security policies and approach towards cross-border terrorism. However, in the Indian perspective the bigger question remains as you put it, what’s next? Will there ever be a shift towards lasting peace, or will the cycle of hostilities continue? While India has taken firm action through surgical strikes and diplomatic isolation efforts, real progress will come when there’s accountability for terrorism at its source. Until then, India’s focus remains on strengthening its defense, intelligence, and global partnerships. History has shown that acts of terror do not weaken nations-they only reinforce their resolve. India has moved forward economically, militarily, and globally, and it continues to do so. The challenge for its adversaries is whether they choose to remain stuck in a destructive cycle or focus on their own progress instead. At the end of the day, ALL security threats can be met with decisive action but the real victory is when stability, growth, and peace take precedence over conflict. Let’s hope for a future where prosperity wins over hostilities 🙏

[@agyanibaba1144]

Modi churan....😅😅😅😅 ye pakistani intellectuals ka observation hai. Ye agar modi ki life journey ko hi analyze ker le to inhe pata lag jaye ki modi kya hai. Hypocrite 😅😅😅😅😅

[@MukhbirNama]

Not at all Sahab. I deeply respect Modi Ji and really believe his chooran worked for India while the chooran given to Pakistan didn't work. Please also see our podcast with Adeel to fully appreciate the idea of the chooran 🙏

[@PoliticalSeer-ii3wh]

oh koi nahi bhai , abhi 5-10 saal mein hum inka alag Sindhudesh aur Balochistan bana denge Then they'll quarrel with those countries

[@karama709]

Pakistan ka Matlab kya LA ilah il Allah, Hindustan ka Matlab kya jai shri Ram

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on both nations. Much appreciated 🙏

[@yashsingh0010]

As an Indian my gratitude to Jinnah (Jina Bhai Thakkar) for dividing Muslims and ensuring India don't become Lebanon atleast for next 200 years till then we must reverse last 800 years.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. How are the last 800 years to be reversed? Are the history books going to be rewritten? 🙏

[@yashsingh0010]

@MukhbirNama Nothing is going to be rewritten, it's just the written not Delhi Ganga Yamuna Doab Centric. Ahoms, cholas, pandyas, cheras, vijayanagara, Mauryas Guptas Harsha Chalukyas Satpuras Rashtrakutas Pratiharas Palas, etc. There is so much more than Mughals. And yes Akbar was great but Auragjeb was not, this is need to be said, you can't teach greatness of Hitler in Israel.

[@MukhbirNama]

You're absolutely right. Thank you so much for sharing those names 🙏

[@KM____]

I read his beautiful book on Delhi when it came. I learnt so many new things about the city I call home. It belongs in the same league as Dalrymple's 'City of Djinns'.

[@MukhbirNama]

That’s such a wonderful compliment! It’s truly heartening to know that the book resonated with you and deepened your understanding of the city you call home. I've always felt that Delhi has such a rich and layered history, and it’s always special when readers find new perspectives within its stories. Being mentioned alongside Dalrymple’s City of Djinns would certainly be an honor for Raza Rumi's book and I thank you on his behalf for your kind words! 😊

[@JackBlackSM]

Mr. Rumi - your commentary about Indian Muslims is as pedestrian as it can get. It simply reflects your core bigotry and bias against India. Let the Muslims in India decide. Check how many would like to shift to Pakistan. Not even one would. Clean your own backyard first! Sitting in the US lole a typical Pakistani elite and lecturing about India and Pakistan is sheer hypocrisy.

[@MukhbirNama]

Do you feel all Pakistani analysts living in the US are hypocrites?

[@sinhapul]

In India Muslim population has rises to 18 crore now, is it possible if so much atrocities are happening against Muslims. in Islamic Pakistan Bangladesh Hindu population is dwindling and this is called religious cleansing. In India rapid rise in Muslim population has put Hindu population in nervous as we all know the consequences of rising Muslim population.

[@MukhbirNama]

You're very right and it is true that the Muslim population in India has grown, but the idea that this disproves any discrimination or marginalization is not entirely accurate. Population growth is not the only measure of a community's well-being-socio-economic conditions, education levels, and political representation also matter. The Sachar Committee Report (2006) and subsequent studies have shown that Indian Muslims lag behind in education, employment, and access to government resources, despite their numerical growth. Today India's Muslim population has grown and estimates go around 18-20 crores, but this is not due to any special privileges or favoritism. The fertility rate of Indian Muslims has been steadily declining, as per National Family Health Survey (NFHS-5, 2019-21). While Muslim fertility rates were higher in the past, the gap between Hindu and Muslim birth rates is narrowing. This is a global pattern-as education and economic conditions improve, fertility rates drop across all communities. So, the "rapid rise" narrative is often exaggerated. On the other hand, the decline of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh is a real and concerning issue. In 1947, Hindus made up around 12-14% of Pakistan’s population, and today they are around 1.8%. In Bangladesh, Hindus were nearly 22% in 1951, and today they are around 7%. There are multiple reasons for this decline, including Partition migration (1947 & 1971 Bangladesh war) religious persecution, forced conversions, discrimination, economic pressures forcing migration to India, legal challenges such as blasphemy laws and land grabbing amongst other severe issues faced by Pakistani minorities. While Bangladesh has made some efforts in recent years to protect minorities (even though Hindus still face incidents of violence there) Pakistan has severe religious discrimination issues, and minorities often face violence and even legal injustices. This is something all progressive Pakistanis must acknowledge and work to change. I believe that the fear that rising Muslim numbers in India will lead to conflict is historically and statistically unfounded. India has one of the world’s largest Muslim populations, yet the country functions as a democracy where all communities coexist. The real focus should be on socio-economic development, education, and national unity rather than fear of demographic changes. I feel that the biggest challenge for both Pakistan and India is not a numbers game but integration and progress. If all communities-Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians-are educated, economically stable, and socially harmonious, then population growth is not a threat. The real danger is when poverty, illiteracy, and political manipulation divide people based on religion rather than bringing them together as citizens of one nation. I hope you'll agree with me that Pakistan needs to ensure religious freedom and equal rights for minorities. However, the rise of Muslims in India does not automatically mean trouble-it’s more important to focus on education, economic stability, and national unity than to be fearful of numbers. I would love to hear your perspective 🙏

[@sinhapul]

@MukhbirNama I am Hindu middle class, what benefit I got from government..? Day and night I am working to do better in life.. and paying high taxes without getting anything in return.. Consciously we have produced only one child, so that we can give him better life.. Muslims should first get out of victimhood mentality first. For Muslim only religion matter and nothing else. Indian government is doing more for Indian poor Muslims, free ration, affordable home, toilets, soft loan, and Indian middle class is taking that burden. And you are talking about discrimination. Ayodhya Kashi Mathura, Islam destroyed each and every holy places of Hindus which is even well documented in Mugual court, Islamic writers of that era but still Muslims are not ready to vacate rather you people are crying victimhood,

[@MukhbirNama]

I can see the sincerity in your words. Do you really believe Modi Ji's government has treated Indian Hindus unfavorably and burdened the middle class as compared to Indian Muslims?

[@sinhapul]

@@MukhbirNama Sir people here getting free ration , cash doles, medical insurance upto 5 lakh , soft loans for businesses, free housing what not... this Modi government has squeezed Indian middle class and given so much to Indian poor's which includes Indian Muslims without any discrimination. We are not getting house helpers as people are getting everything from government ,no incentive for hard work. With 140 crore population here and there issues will be there. But data suggest Indian Muslim population is increasing fast and Indian Muslims needs to themselves pull up and have modern thinking rather than all time religion and religion , I see so many big mosque comes up in all areas where population of Muslims are not much but they will not open any modern community schools. Indian constitution ,Hindus are not discriminating, India is secular not because of its constitution but because majority Hindus are secular. We Hindus are now terrified as Muslims population reaching 20 crore don't know what again partition they will do.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for clarifying the situation in India as you've seen it. Much appreciated 🙏

[@FkuIlu]

17:58 beca-use democracy is haram in Islam only Khalifa is allowed

[@MukhbirNama]

Not really. If you take a listen to what Ghamdi sahab has said about it then it does seem like democracy is permissible in Islam 🙏

[@ayushmankar4100]

​​@@MukhbirNama Then why majority of Muslim countries around the world are authoritarian states ? And those who are democratic also (like Bangladesh) are very unstable .

[@MukhbirNama]

That is a huge tragedy. Just because it is permissible in Islam doesn't mean Islamic countries will follow it :)

[@sanjeevbhattacharjee1936]

Hindutva is our civilisation identity n our base to have a pluralistic n secular value as part of our national philosophy n not be viewed myopically as a religion ….n if Pakistan broke away to establish an islamic society as it’s obvious that partition was on religious lines n therefore India ought to have precedence of all other faiths less the Muslims , however still India’s hindutva went for a well defined constitution where it granted equal rights to all it’s citizen irrespective of religion ….Pakistan’s blasphemy laws n systematic eradication of Hindus n other sects of Islam whereas PM Modi is the epitome of hindutva which has tenets of secularism inbuilt ….if lynching took place in India , it’s either was a law n order issue or cow vigilante or smuggling or a relation to Islamic radicalisation and SAR tan ki juda ….reaction would come and under PM Modi , it will come more decisively and with deadly impact .

[@MukhbirNama]

How do you compare cow vigilantism and sar tan say juda? Extremist ideas?

[@psnatarajan6131]

20.10. China's economic rise too was financed by American investment after Nixon decided to back China against Russia than self-sustained. Even now Chinese economy is export-oriented wherein it's favorable trade balance is touching a trillion dollar figure mostly with America.

[@MukhbirNama]

You're absolutely right that China's economic rise was significantly influenced by U.S. investment and market access, particularly after Nixon’s strategic outreach to China in the 1970s. The normalization of Sino-American relations led to China’s entry into the global economy, allowing it to attract foreign direct investment (FDI) and benefit from Western technology transfers. The opening up under Deng Xiaoping in the late 1970s and China's eventual entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2001 played a crucial role in integrating it into the global supply chain. That said, while exports have been a major driver of China's growth, it's also important to acknowledge that China has developed strong domestic industries, advanced infrastructure, and cutting-edge technology sectors. Today, China is not just an exporter of low-end goods but a leader in areas like AI, electric vehicles, and semiconductor production. While it still maintains a massive trade surplus with the U.S., it has also been working toward reducing dependency on Western markets by expanding trade within Asia, Africa, and Latin America under initiatives like the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). I believe that the data shows that China's rise was not purely self-sustained, nor was it solely a result of American investment-it was a mix of strategic state-led policies, global economic shifts, and leveraging foreign investment while building domestic capabilities. The ongoing shifts in U.S.-China trade relations will determine how much longer China can rely on external markets, but its trajectory suggests a growing emphasis on domestic consumption and regional economic integration. Let's see where that goes 🙏

[@LACHIT-w9t]

Yes, Modi has not run the country in the name of Hindutava. Sabka Sath, Sabka Bikash.

[@MukhbirNama]

It’s true that PM Modi’s governance has focused largely on economic growth, infrastructure, and global diplomacy. His leadership has emphasized initiatives like Digital India, Make in India, and welfare schemes that benefit all communities. However, at the same time, the perception of Hindutva's influence in policymaking has grown, especially with debates around issues like CAA, temple-mosque disputes, and anti-conversion laws. Whether one sees Hindutva as a governing ideology or merely a cultural resurgence depends on perspective. Supporters argue that Modi has modernized India while taking pride in its civilizational roots, while critics feel that some policies have been exclusionary or divisive. At the end of the day, India remains a democracy where policies and leadership will always be debated-and that’s a sign of a functioning system! Appreciate your perspective, and it’s always great to have open discussions on these topics 🙏

[@AnilBaruah-yl8kt]

Excellent deliberations. Very insightful & equally instructive. Thanks MukhbirNama.

[@MukhbirNama]

So nice of you! We really appreciate your feedback ❤️

[@nitinkalwani3911]

Sara din purana jamana yad karte ho, aage dekho

[@MukhbirNama]

Bas sahab kia karien? Musalmano ka rear view mirror bohat saaf hota hay aur windscreen fogged up hay :) Koshish karien ge kay koi behtari ho 🙏

[@dharmashekhar1047]

@@MukhbirNama Excellent figure of speech ! This applies to all humans & human groups.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you! It really does 🙏

[@randomdesi3271]

Very sensible conversation. Both decent and intelligent guys.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for saying so! I really appreciate it 🙏

[@sonibhash]

India abb Pakistan ki taraf, map me bhi nahi dekhta... Please you concentrate on Pakistan .

[@MukhbirNama]

You're very right. India has far surpassed Pakistan in economic terms.

[@AKumar-co7oe]

Hard to argue pakistan has a bigger middle class proportionately as of 2025 given that India has nearly 200 million stock trading accounts. Maybe they did in mid 2000s. India sold 30 times the number of new cars as pakistan last month, as well a 13.5 times the number of motorcycles. Given our population is 5.5 times larger these can be used as proxies for the relative proportion of global middle class and lower middle class people respectively

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Perhaps Raza Sahab's data is outdated but I will let your concerns be known to him 🙏

[@nomadbanda9562]

Thank you sir for inviting such great minds on your podcast 🎉

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! 😊 It truly means a lot to hear that. We strive to bring insightful discussions with great minds, and your support keeps us motivated to continue these meaningful conversations. Stay tuned for more, and I always appreciate your comments!

[@npjay]

Mostly these titles are clickbaits, request indians not to fall for it..

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for your feedback. I'm curious as to what you would have titled it? 🙏

[@vijaysinhpatanwadia7092]

Your saw is very nice. Always bring people like Raza Sir. Fantastic ❤❤❤❤❤

[@MukhbirNama]

So nice of you to say that! Much appreciated ❤️

[@Ayushi_30_Rathore]

As per the data from the National Statistics Office (NSO) 2022, only 48 percent of Muslim students in India study till class 12, while 14 percent study ahead of the 12th standard. Each year Modi government provide maximum scholarships to Muslim students, Modi government is trying to increase the standard of education in6 Madarsa. He's the one who said that "Mai chahta hu mere Muslim bacho ke ek hath me quran me aur dusre me computer hona chahiye" Ab jo log padhna hi nahi chahte hai to unka kya hi kar sakte hai? Koi unko padhne se to rokta nahi hai, wo kisi bhi school me ja sakte hai.... Exam qualify kar ke Muslim bacche AIIMS, IIM, IIT bhi jate hai koi nahi rokta.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for pointing out education and access to education as a primary issue for Muslims in India. I deeply respect Modi Ji for saying that! Education is the number one path out of poverty and I hope all of India marches towards progress 🙏

[@PoliticalSeer-ii3wh]

brother you don't have to give this momin 'safaai' he is a little guy who does not matter

[@Kanishka-d6w]

*RAZA Bhai how come you are still a sane Pakistani? Sure you must be living abroad because no one in Pakistan is allowed to freely say the truth and expose the lies what Pakistanis have been fed to digest since 1947 or even before*

[@MukhbirNama]

I can assure you that there are plenty of voices within Pakistan like Raza Rumi Sahab, questioning narratives and engaging in open discussions. The key is to keep asking the right questions, challenging perspectives, and encouraging dialogue rather than assuming that truth can’t exist here :) After all, if no one in Pakistan was allowed to speak freely, how would we even be having this conversation? 😉

[@Kanishka-d6w]

@@MukhbirNama One can have such discussions while in Europe or America or on VPN hiding the identity or the location of the source. just recently I heard that some young KZbinrs have been made to disappear just like brave Baloch since 1948. I wish someone like you could have interviewed a few chosen one who returned their home with software updated. why a conspiracy of defeating silence for such an inhumane treatment. I remember someone was tell that "bahut jyaditi kartehain" now I am confused as th word JYADITI is known for rape in Pakistan. You got my point. please let us know the reason why all KZbinrs have been silenced in pakistan. thanks and I do appreciate your efforts.

[@Padosidesi2828]

@@MukhbirNama Agreed. I am often surprised how openly many Pakistanis speak against their government. In contrast, often mainstream media criticize the Modi government in a more couched and careful manner (with a few notable exceptions). The large number of negative comments under this feature itself show how civil discourse has changed in its character of late. That said, there is a lot of development that has happened in the last decade in India. I come from Hyderabad and see big changes, largely positive. Muslims are moving up too. However, if I compare to my childhood days, there seems to be more pronounced identity consciousness, particularly among Muslims, reflected as the Hamas style burqas - everything covered up except narrow slits around the eyes and a band around the head. They may have their own reasons to do this. But I am sure this is not going to help the “otherization”. Ultimately, if we in India need to progress to not marginally better than our neighbors but substantially, we need to dig deeper into our own dharma/indigenous values and treat everyone with respect, irrespective of their backgrounds but also hold everyone accountable, without fear or favor. Having a running feud and bad blood among communities is not a recipe for progress.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you! It is always refreshing to hear from someone who recognizes both the progress and challenges in our societies. The fact that Pakistanis can openly criticize their government (despite the risks) speaks to a deep-rooted frustration, but at the same time, it’s heartening to see India’s development and upward mobility for all communities, including Muslims. You’ve made an important observation about identity consciousness-it’s a global phenomenon, and communities across the world, not just in India, are navigating how to balance cultural and religious expressions with social integration. While personal choices should always be respected, it’s equally true that building bridges rather than barriers is what truly fosters long-term harmony. I completely agree with your point that true progress lies in digging deeper into our own values of justice, respect, and shared responsibility, rather than letting differences create permanent divisions. The more we encourage honest, open, and respectful conversations like this, the better the future looks for all of us. Really appreciate your insight and hope we continue to exchange thoughts like this! 🙏

[@Nick-eb7up]

Abdul Kalam Ji, Atal Bihari Vajpayee(BJP) Ke Candidate the Or BJP Or BJP Ki Alliances Ne Unko President Banaya Tha

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for letting us know! Much appreciated 🙏

[@Dividerinchief]

Why dont indian muslims move to Pakistan and Bangladesh??? If they are in danger

[@MukhbirNama]

You're very right. Pakistan does seem to have a deeper crisis.

[@asimhot]

Really like your choice of guests. Keep it up. Love from Chandigarh.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thanks a ton! I really appreciate your feedback and hope that we'll continue to meet interesting people 🙏

[@kanwalkrishanlidhoo680]

آئینہ آپکی صورت اُجاگر کرتا ہے ۔ بہت خوشی ہوتی ہے جب پاکستان کی سیول سوسائٹی کے بیدار حضرات خود کا مطالعہ کرکے course correction کی کوشش کرتے ہیں ۔ آپ شجر لگاتے رہیں ۔ آپکی ہی کوششوں سے ہی سبزہ زاری ممکن ہے ۔ روشن خیالی کا ہمیشہ ہمارے دلوں میں سواگت ( استقبال) ہے۔ دونوں ملکوں کے عوام کو راحت کی ضرورت ہے ۔

[@MukhbirNama]

آپ اس قدر خوبصورت الفاظ اور مثبت جذبے کے ساتھ بات کر رہے ہیں، یہ دیکھ کر واقعی خوشی ہوتی ہے۔ ہماری کوشش ہمیشہ یہی رہی ہے کہ تعمیری مکالمہ ہو، خود احتسابی کا پہلو مضبوط ہو، اور دونوں ممالک کے عوام کے درمیان بہتر سمجھ بوجھ پیدا ہو۔ ہمیں یقین ہے کہ شعور اور روشن خیالی کی شمع جتنی زیادہ جلائی جائے گی، اتنی ہی زیادہ روشنی پھیلے گی۔ آپ جیسے بامقصد سوچ رکھنے والے افراد ہی معاشروں میں تبدیلی کا باعث بنتے ہیں۔ دعا ہے کہ ہم سب ایک بہتر، پرامن اور خوشحال مستقبل کی طرف بڑھ سکیں۔ آپ کی محبت اور حوصلہ افزائی کا بے حد شکریہ!

[@kanwalkrishanlidhoo680]

@MukhbirNama اسکے سِوا کوئی چارہ نہیں ۔ ہم ایسے وقت میں جی رہے ہیں جہاں عالمیت کے ہر جز کو دیکھنے پرکھنے کے بغیر آگے کی راہ متعین نہیں ہو سکتی۔ بدقسمتی پاکستان اور ہندوستان ایک تہذیب و تمدن ہونے کے باوجود ذلیل قوتوں کے زیرِ اثر نفرت میں جی رہے ہیں ۔ اسکی موجودہ وقت میں کوئی گنجائشِ نہیں ۔ البتہ پاکستان نامی ملک پر یہ ذمےداری قدرے زیادہ عائد ہوتی ہے ۔

[@MukhbirNama]

آپ کے خیالات قابلِ غور اور بہت گہرے ہیں۔ واقعی، ہم ایک ایسے دور میں جی رہے ہیں جہاں دنیا کو دیکھنے اور سمجھنے کے بغیر آگے بڑھنا ممکن نہیں۔ پاکستان اور ہندوستان، تاریخی طور پر ایک تہذیب کے وارث ہونے کے باوجود، سیاسی اور سماجی تقسیم کی وجہ سے نفرت میں الجھے رہے ہیں۔ لیکن وقت بدل رہا ہے، اور ان قدیم تعصبات کی اب کوئی جگہ نہیں ہونی چاہیے۔ جہاں تک پاکستان کی ذمہ داری کی بات ہے، ہر قوم کو اپنے تاریخی فیصلوں اور موجودہ حالات کا خود احتسابی کے ساتھ جائزہ لینا چاہیے۔ پاکستان ہو یا ہندوستان، دونوں کو اپنی آنے والی نسلوں کے لیے امن، ترقی، اور باہمی احترام کی راہ ہموار کرنی ہوگی۔ ماضی کی غلطیوں سے سیکھنا اور نفرت سے زیادہ مکالمے کو فروغ دینا ہی حقیقی ترقی کا راستہ ہے۔ یہ صرف ایک سیاسی یا سفارتی مسئلہ نہیں، بلکہ سماجی اور تہذیبی ضرورت ہے کہ ہم مشترکہ ورثے کو تسلیم کریں اور ایک دوسرے کے ساتھ احترام اور شعور کے ساتھ جڑنے کی کوشش کریں۔ آپ کی باتوں میں بہت بصیرت ہے، اور ایسے مکالمے ہی بہتر مستقبل کی بنیاد رکھ سکتے ہیں۔

[@ss-su9ob]

Rumi sir and others who always say or think, all the CEO's from India come from IIT's. This is not true. Yes, they are a few from these institutions. Yes, IIT's are the best in the world, no disagreements. There are other Collages/universities, which are as good or few better than IIT's in India. Microsoft/adobe/Chanel Ceo's are few from non IIT's. Google/IBM ceo's are few from IIT's. Thanks.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for letting us know and we really appreciate your feedback. You're very right about other universities in India and Dr. Taimur mentioned some of them on his podcast with us. I hope you get to share your thoughts on that as well 🙏

[@CharanjivS-k2r]

Good to hear candid and objective Rumi.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for sharing! Much appreciated 🙏

[@pitamberrathi7760]

Once again a very nice thoughts good advise for Pakistani youth

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! 😊 Encouraging meaningful discussions and self-reflection is important for progress, not just for Pakistani youth but for all of us in South Asia. The more we engage in open conversations and constructive debates, the closer we get to real solutions. Appreciate your thoughtful engagement, and let’s keep the dialogue going 🙏

[@jayantachakravarty4254]

Awesome 😃😃💯 I am delighted that someone in Pakistan talks sense. I am an Indian, a Modi supporter but want more people to people contact with you

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! 😊 It’s always great to have meaningful discussions beyond borders, and people-to-people connections are what truly build understanding between nations. Political views aside, at the end of the day, we all want peace, prosperity, and a better future for our communities. Conversations like these are a step in the right direction! Wishing you the best, and let’s keep this dialogue going 🙏

[@vikasbhargava5653]

Banaane chale the Pakistan. Bnaa liya Puxstan. Ab aur kaun rahega inn ke saath? Pakistan will be split into 4 mulaks namely (1) Baluchistan (2) Pashtunwali (3) Sindhudesh and (4) PUXSTAN.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Do you really believe Pakistan will split into four countries?

[@vg82]

Duniya bhaar Ka gyan … eid 🌙 ke chawal mang kar khane wale Ko dusaro par gyan dena banata hai ???

[@MukhbirNama]

Eid ke chawal hon ya dunya bhar ka gyaan, dono free milta hai toh kyun na enjoy karein? 😆 Waise aap bhi muft ka mashwara de rahe hain, chawal ka invoice bhej doon?😂

[@vishvajitkumar9497]

brother bikhari log hai. yaa inna koi sharam nai athi hai. yaa log to ase hai jo doller ke liya apne maa bahen be bech de.

[@vg82]

@@MukhbirNama Saudi Ko bhej do invoice … udhar se he aane hai free ke chawal ..

[@MukhbirNama]

Ji magar woh pehlay hi free ka petrol day rahay hein :) Ab chawal ka invoice to kuch ziada nahi ho jai ga? 😂

[@vg82]

@@MukhbirNama Koi baat nahi , Pakistani kaum waise he koi self respect nahi rakhti … Saari duniya par gyan hai par ye baat par kuch nahi bolti ki roz 50 log maarte hai , na khud se roti 🫓 khaa sakte hai Aur na khud se kuch kar paate hai .. par phir Bhi hoshiyar baan rahe ho … Bhai kuch kar lo na pehle .. kyun dusaro par gyan de rahe ho … ??? Kal America se he bhikh maangni hai … naukar Aur Malik ek nahi hote hai …

[@ravirajagopalan5596]

Modi had given the world the fight against COVID vaccines and gave to its citizens free.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for highlighting the work done by Modi Ji during COVID. It was a remarkable feat for India 🙏

[@ShubhamKumar-cw5uf]

I very much appreciate @MukhbirNama for patiently responding most of the comments and I guess this Podcast was supposed to educate mainly Pakistani population but I see only Indians in the comments. Disappointing.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for your recognition and appreciation 🙏 I am always impressed by the attention to detail and comments from viewers like you so I have the greatest love for you guys ❤️ And yes, you are right, we get a lot of views and likes from Pakistan but very few seem to be brave enough to comment! :)

[@rahulrasiklalbora4296]

Mukharbirnamaji Do you know CHooran is a very respectful word from Ayurveda.Think twice Before using it for nonsense things.

[@srijandatta287]

ayurveda is not respectable, conduct double blind tests first.

[@MukhbirNama]

You're absolutely right Janab. Chooran is an amazing thing and can help bring miraculous cures if it is the right one. There is a chooran that was given to Pakistan which we have discussed on our podcast with Adeel and another one given by Modi Ji to India. You can tell us which one worked? :) Please understand that I have the greatest respect for Modi Ji and believe that he has created an economic miracle for India. I only wish Pakistan had the same chooran 🙏

[@rahulrasiklalbora4296]

Mukharbirnamaji I think your guest is having I'll view towards us and Superiority complex about himself. IN ancient Bhartiya Medical Science AYURVEDA we call medicine which comes in powder form is CHURNA. And here your nonsense guest using it to Humiliation purpose . Actually you are not from Ancient civilization like us which is more than 5000 years. That's why your language become rude like this (Rumis ). Take care.

[@tanu4647]

Uighur Muslims and Kashmir Muslims what's difference. Khatta Mettha games Tell me China bhai bhai India hmm

[@MukhbirNama]

Hilarious and it really deserves an answer! The classic Khatta Meetha comparison! 😆 Well, the difference is who’s holding the plate and who’s deciding the flavors? India or Pakistan? When it comes to Uyghur Muslims, the discussion seems to be heavily censored in China-no protests, no media debates, no international pressure allowed inside. On the other hand, Kashmir is an open debate even within India, with endless political discussions, protests, and global media coverage. One is completely silenced, the other is constantly debated- and I'm sure you'll agree that’s a pretty big difference and it is a huge credit to India's democracy 🙏 And about "China bhai bhai vs. India hmm" as my Indian friends keep telling me, welcome to geopolitics, where every country plays a diplomatic chess game. You may know that Pakistan has historical disputes with India and a strategic partnership with China, so naturally, the narrative shifts accordingly. It’s like selectively loving cricket umpires-if the decision goes in your favor, they’re great, if not, suddenly it’s "biased umpiring." 🎭😂 But on a serious note. I will always say that human rights should be universal. If injustice is happening anywhere-whether in Kashmir, Xinjiang, Karachi, Palestine, or elsewhere-it deserves to be discussed on principle, not just politics so it can be debated and hopefully fixed. You might agree that it would be a real Meetha ending! 🙏

[@tanu4647]

@MukhbirNama Please don't white wash these sensitive topic . What's that open debate n closed debate come on stop this. You don't know what's happening to Muslims in China just pak china Bhai Bhai you get funds other supprt from china. So that You keep your mouth shut not defensive rgd Chinese Muslims. Come on be a man. As for Kashmir it's soft target. All is well in Kashmir. You I mean politicians military pick Kashmir as a cause for vote bank in Pakistan. Gullible pak public taken for ride for past 70yrs. You can fool whole awam for some times not all the time. Peace .

[@aseemagnihotri8832]

Nice interview

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your feedback 🙏

[@alijaved3964]

Thanks for this talk,,,,mukhbirnama is going great

[@MukhbirNama]

So nice of you to say that! Much appreciated 🙏

[@RahulKumar-dk4sw]

Your guest is honest enough because he accepted that mumbai attack was done by pakistan

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for saying so. We recently had a podcast with a General who completely denied it and I am wondering if I should put it on at all? Raza Sahab was very honest with us in all terms 🙏

[@dharmashekhar1047]

I had an opportunity to personally interact with pakistanis during the World Social Forum 2004 , pakistani artists who presented their work in mumbai & Asma Jahangir ( Ex social activist ). My impression was that pakistanis are ex-indians who choose to abandon their indianness 77 years back, under the influence of an supremacist islamic identity. A social theory says that errors made by earlier generations are reviewed only after 3 (three) generations have passed by. The generation which produced the 2NT (two nation theory) had their mindset set in late 19th century. The generation which produced this idea , had no idea of the full range of consequences of the implementation of this grand idea. Post world war2 conditions only aggravated the issue. The same logic applies today 2025. The 20th century mindset cannot help us tackle 21st century issues. Paradigm shift in human consciousness is called for. The Videos of kashmiris hankering for independence shows that muslims are atleast 2 generations behind in this race. Hope that Internet/social media help to overcome this gap within the next 10-15 years.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Do you have any recollections of Ms. Asma Jehangir? Please do let us know your impressions of her🙏

[@2sridhark]

Raza Rumi is a wise man.

[@nnbg8000]

hmmm he is filled withcontempt towards India too, expecially against Hindus. Sometimes the mask drops......

[@MukhbirNama]

I can assure you that he seemed to have no contempt for anyone. Did you see any instances of bias in his words?

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for saying so! Much appreciated ❤️

[@nnbg8000]

@ Sure, you are entitled to your opinion. It always amazes me to see the venom most Pakstanis, have against Hindus. also you were incorrect in saying that Pakstan hasn't done any attackes in india after 26/11. Pakstan has never stopped their "death by a thousand cuts" harm to India. We experience it daily. Just look up 19 Jan. 1990. Raza Runmi can claim that Pakstan is a dysfunctional state but it is a failed state & Pakstanis like that because if they had really wanted democracy, they would have come out on the streets to demand it & above all sent pakfauj back to the barracks.

[@MukhbirNama]

I loved the words you've used i.e. death by a thousand cuts. We did a podcast with Mr. Imtiaz Alam recently who explained that concept both from the Indian and Pakistani side. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on his explanation of your words 🙏

[@paulsingh7793]

*HINDU RATE OF GROWTH* term was given by the Indian economists only

[@srijandatta287]

We know, that's regressive as well. Can a few people from a group defame the whole group because of their whims and fancies??

[@MukhbirNama]

You're very right. The term itself was given by the famous Indian economist Raj Krishna in 1978 and has been in use since.

[@shantaramrepale429]

पाकिस्तान ने भारत से अलग हो के अपनी सांस्कृतिक पहचान बदल दी । नयी पहचान मे लोकतंत्र को जगह हि नही है । परिणाम ना घर के रहे ना घाट के ।

[@mohankumarreddy4739]

You telling truth.....🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! The truth is a rare commodity 🙏

[@SauravYadav-i7l]

Very thoughtful discussion sir.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for saying so! Much appreciated ❤️

[@pitamberrathi7760]

Nice discussion

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate you saying that 🙏

[@Arubonal]

Sir, tell me one thing, if most of the Muslims go to madrasa instead of school/college, then how will they be able to compete with students of other communities? What is the fault of other people in this?

[@MukhbirNama]

You're very right. Traditional madrassa education may not be the best for functioning in the modern world therefore there is an urgent need to enhance the curricula at those institutes 🙏

[@Arubonal]

@MukhbirNama sir if goverment change anythink abaout muslim and minority community then pakistan media and some muslims in india saying this goverment is hindutva and goverment crushing minority example like these days waqf bord amandmant

[@MukhbirNama]

I think the supreme court has decided on it already no?

[@jpatel2002]

​@@MukhbirNama supreme court has stopped legal recognition of the madrasa degree as equivalent to UG, but no madrasas have not stopped yet.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for letting us know. I'm sure the market forces will make a decision for everyone soon 🙏

[@parveenswami3693]

Even Pakistani economist dnt knw what's coming towards world financial system. 400 yrs old financial cycle reversal will force pakistanis to go back to their hindu roots.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for your multiple comments. It would be a very interesting world if the visions given by you come true in the next 50-100 years 🙏

[@Imblack0798]

Good and great 🎉🎉❤❤

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for your feedback! We really appreciate it ❤️

[@Imblack0798]

@@MukhbirNama 👌

[@dhillonsydney3644]

Great podlove from india...i love educated secular muslim

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for your feedback! We really appreciate it 🙏

[@vishvajitkumar9497]

educated secular muslim 😂😂😂 mast joke mara hai. and always remember Secular Muslims are the grass where the snakes (Radical Muslims) hide.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for letting us know. Could you please tell us more? What do you feel about educated secular Muslims?

[@sanjeevkoparde7144]

#PKMKB

[@raghs8750]

Seriously this person is so ill informed about india and indian muslims.

[@MukhbirNama]

Ill-informed hone ka toh yahi faida hai sahab, roz naye naye log free mein gayan daynay aa jaatay hain! 😜 Bas thoda pyaar se samjha dein, kyunki gyaan bhi tabhi samajh aata hai jab bandwidth aur patience dono theek se kaam kar rahe ho! 😆 Lekin honestly, agar kuch galat bola gaya hai, toh enlighten karne ka moka toh aapke haath mein hai na? 🤔 Knowledge ka WiFi sabse achha tab chalta hai jab dono taraf signal strong hon 🙏

[@kunalsharma731]

Both host and guest are normal people. Thank God for that. Waise zukam uncle ka naam kya hai?

[@MukhbirNama]

The guest here is Mr. Raza Rumi who is an eminent Pakistani journalist 🙏

[@aseemagnihotri8832]

Raza Rumi is one of the most sane voices in Pakistan and I must say that there are very few there

[@nnbg8000]

he is filled withcontempt towards India too, expecially against Hindus. Sometimes the mask drops......

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for saying so! Much appreciated ❤️

[@MukhbirNama]

Oh no, the famous 'mask drop' moment! 😱 Someone call Netflix, sounds like a thriller in the making! But seriously, I can assure you that there no contempt here-just discussions, debates, and maybe a little bit of coffee-fueled curiosity. Let’s keep the conversations going with open minds 🙏

[@nnbg8000]

@ I don't know what you're talking about thriller Netflix, you would know what you're talking about. I'm fair that's why I have subscribed to your channel. Now send your good-for-nothing fauj back to their Pindi barracks & then talk about openness.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for subscribing :) I hope we continue to have a conversation and I will try to respond as much as I can (about the things I can respond to) as positively as I can 🙏

[@LACHIT-w9t]

In Pakistan Mullah and Military are running the country. All problems are involved with this type situation.

[@vimalchandel3829]

Learned and visionary person.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for saying so. Much appreciated 🙏

[@DaRationalVoice]

“Indian Muslims are persecuted”. This is a joke. I usually don’t speak about Pakistan because I don’t live there and hence I don’t speculate nor pretend to be an expert. If the CSS topper has this view of India based on his very limited knowledge (because he spoke to a bunch of his Indian friends 😂), that sums up how informative their population is. One of the primary reasons I saw Muslim families restricted to working class is because of how big their families were. Living in Hyderabad, I saw an average Muslim family having 4-5 kids and in some cases more than 8. How can their parents afford them good education when they have so many kids. Also, I have seen for most part that education was not a priority for Muslim families while every other sect was laser focused. Look at Sikh, Jain, Christians and others in India. They are equally highly educated and prosperous. The only difference I see is the family size and priority. All my non-Muslims were aspiring to do engineering or medicine and go to US for higher education, while many of my Muslims friends from my neighborhood used to do blue collar jobs after 8th grade and they were aspiring for a labor job in the Middle East.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for your comment and I can see that you’ve raised some important points, and I appreciate your perspective based on personal observations. I am sure you can agree that the socio-economic status of any community is shaped by a combination of historical, cultural, and policy-driven factors, and while personal choices play a role, broader systemic challenges also contribute to disparities. It is true that family size, economic constraints, and educational priorities impact long-term prosperity, and historically, some Muslim communities in India have lagged behind in higher education and professional fields. However, reports like the Sachar Committee Report (2006) and almost twenty years of follow-ups have also highlighted that Indian Muslims face structural disadvantages in terms of access to quality education, employment opportunities, and financial inclusion, which makes it harder for them to break out of poverty. This does not mean that they are persecuted in the sense of facing active state oppression, but rather that they face barriers that require targeted policy interventions-just as other disadvantaged communities have been supported in their upward mobility. I also know that at the same time, many Muslim communities in India have thrived i.e. the Bohra Muslims, Memons, and some Pasmanda groups have successfully prioritized education, entrepreneurship, and social mobility, proving that economic uplift is achievable. Additionally, an increasing number of Muslims are entering engineering, medicine, civil services, and business, challenging old stereotypes. The key is not just individual effort but also ensuring that policy frameworks address historical disadvantages and encourage broader participation in India's growth story. I completely agree with your broader point that education is the biggest factor in social and economic progress, and the focus should be on empowerment rather than victimhood narratives. Instead of seeing this as an issue of one community vs. another, a more constructive approach would be to encourage reforms, better educational initiatives, and increased awareness so that all sections of society can contribute meaningfully to India's development. Your insights on Hyderabad are valuable, and discussions like these help in developing a more nuanced understanding of challenges and solutions 🙏

[@DaRationalVoice]

@ I have never seen a host post such a thoughtful and detailed response. Though I might not agree with your line of thought, my respect for you grew multi-fold. In general, I get very sad seeing how much of our collective intellect is being wasted on things that don’t even matter. Every religion on the planet, when you boil it up, sends almost the same core message. And the illiterate and conniving clergy class take advantage of emotionally gullible folks (educated or not) to create divide so they can monetize it. On one end, we are trying to print 20 billion transistors on a 1 square inch silicon wafer, while on the other hand half the population on this planet is fighting over whose imaginary friend is the better one. Imagine, if I create a cult around Harry Potter, and write doctrine and set of rules around it, and claim that this is unquestionable and anyone who challenges or questions it will be put to death, how ridiculous and comical would it sound? I think religion had a powerful and constructive role in bringing tribes together during Stone Age when everyone was killing each other, and was the glue in the evolution of our current sociology. However, I think it played its part and should be toned down. We should all take the essence of what they were trying to teach and augment it with rational thinking and work towards advancing humanity. For me humanity supersedes any religion and belief system. Thanks for taking the time to respond!

[@DaRationalVoice]

⁠@@MukhbirNama I have never seen a host post such a thoughtful and detailed response to a random comment by their viewer. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Though I might not completely agree with your line of thought, my respect for you grew multi-fold. In general, I get very sad seeing how much of our collective human intellect is being wasted on things that don’t even matter. Every religion on the planet, when you boil it up, sends almost the same core message. And the illiterate and conniving clergy class take advantage of emotionally gullible folks (educated or not) to create divide so they can monetize it. When will the masses realize that most of the current conflicts, religious or not, are actually driven by few power hungry and greedy people? On one end, we are trying to print 20 billion transistors on a 1 square inch silicon wafer, while on the other hand half the population on this planet is fighting over whose imaginary friend is the better one. Imagine, if I create a cult around Harry Potter, and write doctrine and set of rules around it, and claim that this is unquestionable and anyone who challenges or questions it will be put to death, how ridiculous and comical would it sound? I think religion had a powerful and constructive role to bind the tribes during stone ages, when we were all killing each other. It is also responsible for the collective evolution of human sociology. But I think it overstayed its welcome and we should all tone it down and focus on learning the gist of what every religion says, augment it with rational and critical thought and work towards advancing humanity. In my book, humanity superseeds any religion or belief system. Thanks again for taking the time and I apologize if my response was too long and sounds like an op-ed from DawnNews. 😂😂

[@HeroOfHell667]

Crazy how i only see Indians in comments on these pakistan based podcasts 😭

[@MukhbirNama]

Bhai, yeh toh proof hai ke Indo-Pak relations sirf sarkari diplomacy say nahi, KZbin kay comment section say bhi chal rahi hain! 😆😂 Lagta hai Indian audience kay bina Pakistani podcasts adhoore reh jaate hain 🙏 In all honesty, debate aur curiosity dono taraf hai, aur agar Indians itne shauq se dekh rahe hain, toh ya toh content interesting hai 😜 Jo bhi ho, mazedar discussions aur spicy comments guaranteed hain! Shahyad kabhi koi Pakistan say bhi aa jaye gi 😂

[@sanjeevbhattacharjee1936]

Can any Pakistani explain to me why Pakistan was created …definitely not for Islamic values or two nation theory as why would a nation facilitate dual citizenship for it’s elites , bureaucracy including a President , prime minister , political n military leadership , bureaucracy n for God sake even a NSA who is n American ….an unthinkable prospect in India and most sovereign nations . How has this country even survive these last 7 plus decades ? It has done more harm to Islam n its identity than any non Islamic nation or a sovereign nation respectively , could have done .

[@govindvkofficial3742]

Pahli bar Kisi educated Pakistani ko suna hai

[@srijandatta287]

Jinnah was educated and the 1st pakistani.

[@siddarthshah1773]

Educated😂 they are all propagating nehru and gandhi firse😂 coz they hate hindus like modi shah

[@karama709]

Mohammed bin Qasim was first Pakistani ​@@srijandatta287

[@bhaskerverma9503]

@@govindvkofficial3742 yahud hanud ki sajish

[@MukhbirNama]

You'd be surprised how many Pakistanis believe in the Yahood Hanood ki sazish! 😂

[@PankajThakur-yv8mm]

nice podcast

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your feedback 🙏

[@abhishekraj8311]

Agar kisi Religion mein time - time par Reforms nahi laya jai to Extreme People hi Power mein hone

[@MukhbirNama]

You're very right. Luckily there are great reform traditions in all faiths 🙏

[@kedar020]

You are missing the elephant in the room. The pakistan army! Even if Nawaz Shariif and modi come on same table, pakistan army and it's proxies will scuttle it. Not because they hate India but because their raison d' etre is threatened! Till the time every pakistano expert understands it , understands and has guts to openly speak about it, no pakistan and india "Aman ki asha" will ever work !

[@harminderkaur4994]

Would you think pakistan will survive till 2047 in present form ?

[@MukhbirNama]

I hope it changes it form towards something more progressive and forward thinking :) Whether it happens in 2047 or 2027 is anyone's call 😂

[@harminderkaur4994]

@MukhbirNama nothing will change till u reinvent Pakistan change blasphemy laws , give space to communists , it is irony that ur all weather friend is communist country (with capitalism economy): but there is no communist party in Pakistan, learn state craft from India, on three occasions in recent history govt in power used the services of opposition to serve the national interest, first indira Gandhi soliciting the support of RSS through vajpaye in 1971 Bangladesh war, narsimha Rao asking vajpaye to leAd Indian delegations on Kashmir in 1994, when communist came into power in Nepal opposition communist leader yechury was send to Nepal, your political class needs to be groomed in state crafts

[@MukhbirNama]

You're quite right. Pakistan has a lot to learn 🙏

[@harminderkaur4994]

@MukhbirNama that's correct u can spread Awareness among general public and it is quite easy with mobile phones in every hand, mention skill development programs initiate by govt of India where after matric exam millions Are being trained in at least 100 trades related to electric work,health care,mechanical works, these provide youth with jobs in India and Abroad plus internship in private companies through govt, ( for this u need not go to Any office apply on line), on negative side this has resulted in shortages of labour specially seasonal farm lAbour in Indian punjab

[@MukhbirNama]

That is a fantastic idea and I hope it is replicated by the Pakistani government. I really appreciate you sharing it 🙏

[@ac_te_c_]

40:29 Persecuted Minority in India? is an exaggerated statement. 41:53 Here in India Tan Sar se Juda ho jate hain by Minority. Hindu Pandits of Kashmir are Migrant in their own land they are Persecuted by Muslims (though they are just barely in majority in not in Jammu but in Kashmir only, ) after revoke of 370 and 35A Stone Pelters are gone. 1:00:31 On word Secular.. if you study Vedas and Sanatan Dharshana where Word "Secular" loose meaning. Muslims are flourishing and growing in Bharat because we as Hindu or in other words Sanatani where there is Slok says and believe "Sarwa Dharma Sambhav." Means "All Dharma are Same" same time but in reality Islamic philosophy is just opposite to it. Look at what happened to Lebanon and Siriya. Now look at home. When you say culture we as Sindhi (in India deprived of our own land) 1:01:34 what you say but your faith says something opposite. 1:02:17 co existence ? But in reality Pakistan is though dysfunctional but exist if you did not understand Pakistan was created on basis of Islam or in name of Islam. Culture you have wearing a Kurta and a Dhoti (Shalwar is modern form of Dhoti). 1:06:31 Culture??? Culture is same DNA is same why word "same" ? 1:08:59 Everything belongs to This land but Faith is imported. (I remember two stanza of Iqbal's Jawab e Shiqwa. ) he was clear in his mind and goal (he was a rational Muslim and well understood about where his Faith belongs. Where he used word Hijaz and "Dher nashino ko" bla bla bla bla kar de. In my opinion muslims are divided in two majore groups here in India Ashraaf and Pasmanda, alll Ashraaf came with Aggresser Arabs, Turks and Mangols even today controls the majore properties in heartland of India or in South. For your information when Muslim Agresser ruled entire India! yes they remain in control of furtile land but not all India.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for your comment and I really had to rework the words to get my message right :) It’s clear you’ve put a lot of thought into these observations, and you’re bringing up multiple historical, cultural, and contemporary points of view. I am sure you realize that history and identity in South Asia are incredibly complex, shaped by centuries of migration, conquest, and philosophical evolution. The idea of coexistence and pluralism is deeply rooted in the region, but it has also faced many challenges, especially when faiths with differing worldviews and historical legacies have interacted. Your reference to Sindhis, for example, highlights a poignant aspect of Partition’s legacy where many communities were displaced, and they continue to grapple with the loss of ancestral lands. Likewise, the point you raise about Ashraaf and Pasmanda Muslims reflects an important discussion within Indian Muslim society itself, emphasizing that even within religious communities, there are layers of social and economic stratification. I am a great fan of Iqbal’s work especially the Hindi Tarana and his shikwa/jawab-e-shikwa, as you mentioned, reflects a deep engagement with cultural and religious identity. His verses often grapple with the tensions between spiritual ideals and the socio-political realities of his time. This blend of cultural heritage, philosophical exploration, and historical experience continues to shape how people view issues like secularism, cultural coexistence, and national identity today. I would love for you to share the stanza you remember as I am happy to provide my thoughts on it 🙏 Ultimately, I hope you can agree that these discussions remind us that history is not a simple, one-sided story. It’s a complex tapestry where different threads-faith, culture, language, and historical experience-intertwine. By exploring these intricacies, we can better understand not only where we come from but also how to move forward. Thank you for sharing these reflections, as they add valuable depth to the conversation ❤️

[@goodysandhu8879]

no we dont need to talk.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for letting us know. Much appreciated 🙏

[@kartikvats6675]

Most of the things they discussed seems true only...But they need to deep dive more regarding Indian culture, minorities etc....

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you for your feedback! I really appreciate it. What would you like us to explore regarding Indian culture and minorities?

[@abhiframes]

Why Pakistan is not able to import oil & other products from Iran for past 35 years

[@MukhbirNama]

There is a strange governmental policy that many Pakistanis disagree with. Perhaps it will improve in the future 🙏

[@ARShanker]

ISPR is press freedom Hypocrisy is shameless in pakistan

[@MukhbirNama]

Hilarious! I really appreciate your comments :)

[@ereasoning]

Great Talk.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much for saying so! Cheers! :)

[@ereasoning]

@@MukhbirNama The peoples of India and Pakistan must heed the lessons of history, embracing the wisdom to transcend past errors for the benefit of future generations. No human being-be they Hindu, Muslim, Pakistani, or Indian-is flawless; true humanity resides in the capacity to learn from our mistakes and to correct our course. We must also hold our leaders accountable, for in a democracy, the choices of the people shape the reality they endure. My deepest longing for coexistence in peace can only materialize through the fulfillment of my own duty. When my actions align with the righteousness of my karma, all will be as it should be. Together, we possess the power to bring about change. Gratitude, once again, for such profound debates.

[@MukhbirNama]

Thank you so much! Your comment beautifully encapsulates the wisdom and humility needed for genuine progress and harmony. It is true that both India and Pakistan, as neighbors with shared histories, must embrace the lessons of the past-not with bitterness but with a commitment to creating a better future for all. Acknowledging our flaws and striving to grow, both as individuals and as societies, is indeed the essence of humanity. The point about holding leaders accountable is particularly powerful 🙏