Razer Blade 17 vs. Legion 7i RTX 3070 ti & 3080 ti Compared

[@mehdishirazi3]

The problem with razor blade is they don't stand by their products. If you have an issue your on your own, no quality customer support.

[@Anthony0855]

Same with lenovo

[@supraondueces]

Have you ever replaced Lenovo parts!? Lenovo parts at least talk to each other. Razer, if one component goes out you’re screwed $1000 motherboard replacement

[@ipnindersingh9296]

This is exactly the comparison I was looking for, thank you!

[@raydollete444]

I replaced my '21 Zephyrus G15 (5900/3070) with a Legion 7i (i9-12900/3080ti) a couple of months ago and haven't looked back. I use it for gaming, data engineering work, music production, and other kinds of productivity and it's just a beast. I think the fact that it can blend in as a "business laptop" is one of its best features. That being said, the battery life is atrocious compared to my old Zephyrus, like not even close. It's laughable that you can watch the percentage go down even after tweaking settings and undervolting. I rarely use my laptop plugged in, so it's not a big deal for me, but that was the big surprise in ownership.

[@pitha-gn9zr]

I had many of the 17" gaming notebooks you have reviewed also in my hands. Originally I was impressed by the RB17 with QHD and RTX 3080 Ti. But unfortunately there is huge overshoot when G-Sync is enabled and the CPU performance is too poor for some CPU and GPU demanding games. I went now with the ASUS ROG Strix Scar 17 SE, QHD, i9 12950HX and RTX 3080 Ti. This thing can cool 240W in total which is just amazing. Even the whole top chassis is completly cool to the touch. under full load. For me the best Gaming Notebook 2022. If you have the chance to review it, please do so! You will be suprised how good this thing is :)

[@consumertechwarehouse]

I had an early unit but it must have either been defective or had an outdated driver. The GPU was only using 90 watts. I’ll try to get one again

[@pitha-gn9zr]

@@consumertechwarehouse this seems to be wrong. 17000 CPU Points in TimeSpy and 24000 Points in Cinebench R23 on my device. Such am beast of a Gaming Laptop :)

[@pitha-gn9zr]

Ah okay you mean the GPU :) In Turbo Mode the GPU is running at 170 - 175Watts. In Performance Mode 150W and in Silent Mode (I guess) 100W or 90W. GPU Score in TimeSpy is 14300 Points with some minor OC.

[@SeemsLogical]

I had bought the ASUS ROG STRIX SCAR 15 back in the month of May and I had multiple problems with it: I was getting screen flickering consistently when playing games, browsing the internet and even when idle on the home screen. The wifi card disconnected itself to where I needed a wired connection to get internet access and then inexplicably fixed itself a week later. The laptop itself was relatively cool but the battery charger would overheat after 45 minutes of playing Civilization 6, which is far from being a demanding game. That last problem was the final straw for me, I don't mess around with poor thermals. I called ASUS who told me it was NewEgg's warranty that I needed to contact since I ordered it from NewEgg. When I called NewEgg they told me it was ASUS' responsibility to fix it since they bought direct from ASUS and that I should tell them I have the paperwork proving it. ASUS listened to me, checked the paperwork and then just flat out refused to work on it since it was past their "grace period" from initial purchase. ASUS customer support is the worst and you can quote me on that. But my saving grace is that all these problems happened in the first 3 weeks of my order so I just returned it back to NewEgg and bought something that isn't ASUS affiliated because ASUS is a garbage company in my eyes. So I wound up replacing my defective/useless garbage ASUS laptop with a REAL laptop: Lenovo Legion 7. I have had it since June (about 5 months) and it handles everything I run on it perfectly. There's nothing to complain about or even nitpick, it's well made. And I called Lenovo just to check if their warranty service was responsive and they're great. Highly recommend anybody over ASUS for a gaming laptop but Lenovo in particular is a great company to buy from.

[@alipacheco5877]

@@SeemsLogical I can attest to asus customer service being ass, they lost my asus zephyrus with the 1080 max q for three weeks when I sent it in to be fixed for a backlight failure on the device. They were kinda just like oops, whatever. I never have touched that brand of laptop again lol.

[@SeemsLogical]

For most buyers the Lenovo Legion lineup is going to beat out the Razerblade lineup. Performance, price, visuals, port selection, warranty... Lenovo Legion outperforms the Razerblade in nearly every category that matters. The only 2 categories the Razerblade wins out is audio and external chassis quality (as you pointed out in the video). The Lenovo Legion is the smarter purchase for both affordability and performance. The only demographic who I would recommend the Razerblade to are Apple MacBook users. The Razerblade is the only laptop with comparable build quality. Most other gaming laptops have a hard plastic chassis and will feel cheap compared to the MacBooks they are used to, so for them I think they will enjoy Razerblade laptops over anything else.

[@xruud24]

I think the legion build quality is better and the design is also much better

[@miniral695]

This video is awesome Thank you for your efforts

[@ihashup]

I never buy Razer Blades when they first come out, if you wait until the new models come out the old ones are usually at a steep discount. I just bought the Blade 17 for $1999 with the same specs as your which is a steal at that price. This is my second Blade and the longevity on their devices is amazing assuming you're willing to replace the battery in 2 years.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yeah you’re not wrong. That would have been $4000 less than a year ago.

[@BroadwayGuy248]

Exactly the comparison I was looking for. Thanks!

[@natesmith3653]

I think if the laptop will predominantly be plugged in while gaming the legion is hands down the better machine. If you plan on using this thing as laptop and moving around or throwing it in the bag or laying in bed I think the razor since it's a smaller profile would be a more comfy device. Your thoughts?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yeah, the legion is meant to be more on a desk or stationary. But it’s not as bad as you think. And the lighter weight and overall slightly form factor (16 inches vs 17) makes it pretty manageable. But I agree. The ergonomics of the razer makes it a better on the go laptop. Kind of wish I mentioned that in the video now.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Just the ergonomics and the slimmer nature of it makes it easier to pick up and slide in a bag (same size on a desk because of thicker rubber feet on the rb). Also the power brick is significantly smaller. When I had both I used them both in bed on my lap and found the blade to be more comfortable for typing and using. But they’re both fine though.

[@natesmith3653]

@@billbrooke4355 7i is 1 lb heavier I believe

[@1InLight1]

Interesting review, may i ask your opinion on the "mini-led" display option for legion 7 and whether it's availability?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

If it was available that might be the best laptop this year but I haven’t seen it available at all

[@RomixV]

What's your thoughts about software: updating drivers and bios, stability of work, ux between razers laptops and Lenovo? Thanks

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Glad you asked. That’s something I filmed and everything but cut out because of the length of the video. The drivers on both machines are mature now. Didn’t notice anything weird. The Lenovo and razer rarely have bios and driver updates, things just seem more stable. It’s a very different approach to Dell and Asus where they are constantly updating things and sometimes breaking things. Overall the software experience is better on the legion. Vantage is just easier to use vs. synapse. But for keyboard customization and lighting, synapse is still the best.

[@乾淨核能]

Great video! which one is easier to add memory or storage? Thank you! Cause I heard that opening bottom plates of legion series is a pain in the ass。。。。。。。。。。

[@consumertechwarehouse]

They’re both not difficult. I never open the laptops I review because I hate doing it lol. But if you want to upgrade either you’ll do it once and be done with it

[@batmanonholiday4477]

Nice review as always, i appreciate that you talk about the displays in depth, not many reviewers on youtube seem to do it sufficiently. How would you fit in the rog scar 15/17 into this equation here between legion 7 and raider? say rog strix with the similar specs and a qhd display.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

I love both the raider and the scar and I reviewed them earlier this year. But now, I feel it the screens aren’t bright enough. the scar and ge66 and 76 panels barely hit 300 nits. And surprisingly 340 nits vs 300 is very noticeable. I think next year, I’m going to start dinging premium gaming laptops with sim screens. It’s more than just outdoor visibility. It’s much more immersive to have a brighter screen. But if that doesn’t bother you, I still love the scar series in particular. One of my favs

[@batmanonholiday4477]

@@consumertechwarehouse yes, i love their cyperpunk design, not trying to be clean minimalist, although that could be nice too.. lets wait for the next year's revamp indeed..

[@ragaadin9408]

it would be great for waiting next gen strix scar with meteor lake or zen4 mobile, and I think asus will also redesign the chassis and change the SKU name to G734/G534.

[@batmanonholiday4477]

@@billbrooke4355 yes, i think notebook check did a test and said UHD screen on raider ge77 hits around 400 nits! so, that could be a good, option its also great at 17 inches too. I can only get QHD in my country...and i am enarmoured with rog strix design by some reason... not sure if msi is going to be annoying in some ways with their dragon..

[@batmanonholiday4477]

Oh... and do you think its worth expecting laptops with raptor lake already this Christmas or we should expect something to appear only in mid 2023?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Just based on history, we should be able to get them in our hands by February or march with an announcement in January.

[@batmanonholiday4477]

@@consumertechwarehouse nice.. not too long then..

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yeah I don’t even know why I’m making more videos this year. Unless someone needs a laptop now, I’d say wait

[@Romash.]

can you review 6700m of legion 7

[@cemsengul16]

Amazing comparison video. I liked the angles you filmed with in this video. You can see the area that annoys me on the Razer Blade 17. When you compare the Blade 17 to the Legion or even the 15 inch version of the Razer, you can see how far they pushed out the LCD display. I am still waiting on Razer to get rid of the display hinge vent exhaust for their 17 inch laptop. You can stick your finger through the display hinge vent of the Blade 17 and this along with the non uniform speaker holes make an otherwise premium laptop look really cheap at first glance. On the Blade 15 the display hinge vent is really tight and narrow and the speaker holes cover the whole metal speaker section of the chassis so they actually look more premium than the $4000 Blade 17 laptop.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Thanks man. I’ll feature your channel when I do the review for the legion or the ge66, whichever comes first. I wanted to get it in this one, but like I mentioned, literally only had one day with the razer and it was a hectic night of filming

[@cemsengul16]

@@consumertechwarehouse No worries. I don't want you to feel pressured buddy. I really appreciate that you want to help me. This video was very informative man. The Razer was a whole thousand dollars more? They really are turning into the next Apple aren't they?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yeah they are. My entire personal set up is all razer. I love the brand. But I got to be impartial. Their laptops don’t really justify the price difference. But if you can get open box or an amazing sale then it becomes worthwhile.

[@cemsengul16]

@@consumertechwarehouse Yeah I am guilty of the same thing. I know they are not a good value but I feel like you can't beat the build quality of an OLED Blade 15 compared to other 15 inch gaming laptops out there. Razer has this understated professional look that draws us to their laptops.

[@cemsengul16]

@@consumertechwarehouse In case you do feature my channel. I don't need any subscribers, I just need 2000 watch hours.

[@nizamahmed5073]

6950xmt Vs 3070ti?

[@sueycuomo8673]

6950xmt 100% better bro

[@nizamahmed5073]

@@sueycuomo8673 How so?

[@조진우-p9w]

Hi Im looking for 'LEGION 7 16ARH R9 6850M Plus' now. and I'm Korean and I'm not sure if I understood your video properly. Did you feel that the performance is much lower than the rtx3080? Are bugs and errors in various software solved these days? Can I set the non-optimus mode in the vantage app? I have 4 optins now. 1. Acer Helios300 i7-12700 rtx3080(vram8) 2. SOG SCAR G733zs i9-12900 rtx3080(vram8) 3. LEGION 7 16ARH R9 6850M Plus R9-6900 RX6850M xt(vram12) 4. Legion 7 16ACHg R9 3080 PRO R9-5900 rtx3080(vram16) Which do you prefer? Cost is almost same. Im not hardcore game user, but play FIFA game sometimes and usually 3d modeling.

[@hongyuzhu4660]

legion 3080, the of best 2020

[@TruFire710]

I'm loving my blade 17, I have this exact same model.

[@AlastairPaulin-Campbell]

Suggestion. Some graphs are quite misleading visually as the scale is such the performance deltas look very high. Suggest to look at that for future videos. For example horizon zero dawn with dlss off where the scale makes the difference look massive but they are within 1-2 fps of each other - basically equivalent and within margin of error.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yeah it’s a weird excel thing and I don’t think I have much control of that. I try to at least emphasize verbally too so hope that helps. I’ll also play around with the charts more to see if I can come up with more accurate representations of the data

[@AlastairPaulin-Campbell]

@@consumertechwarehouse Appreciate the reply. A very good review overall.

[@AlastairPaulin-Campbell]

Btw it is very possible to fix the scale in excel. I do it all the time as it was a pet peeve of my physics teacher who accused people of spreading propaganda if they did not properly scale their axes. Oh and subbed :) I watched a few more of your reviews and they are quality.

[@intersportasia9521]

I think it would be interesting to see the differences in content creation performance like with a puget benchmark. I feel like a 3080ti won't bemjch better at gaming than 3070ti, but it could be massive difference for Resolve, Premiere due to bigger vram memory.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yeah I’ll keep that in mind going forward. I focus more on gaming on this channel even though I spend a lot of time in Lightroom cc and premiere. More time on those than gaming to be honest. I think going into 2023 I’ll continue to test 3 games at multiple resolutions and start including creative focused benchmarks too.

[@adityamehra1031]

Hi i am confused between zephyrus g15 and strix g17. The zephyrus comes with 3080 (100+20 W TGP) and strix with 3070 ti ( 125+25 W TGP) .. Which one of these do you think will be better suited for 2k gaming?

[@adityamehra1031]

Bro any thoughts?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

The 3080 would be better. But the 3070 ti still does really good.

[@adityamehra1031]

@@consumertechwarehouse thanks

[@wendy2263]

Any suggestion for a gaming laptop for architecture, pirce max 1400 euros ? Should I go for a lenovo legion 5 2021 version ? Do you think it will last for 4 years?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

The past few companies I worked for issued us Lenovos and they are built well and last long. My bet is the legion 5 2021 version will last 4 years. Also the last job before this one was at was a home building company and our architects used the chunkier thinkpads which are similar to the legion and they seemed happy with it

[@wendy2263]

@@consumertechwarehouse Thanks. I think thinkpads are better for my job, but they cost a lot more than the Legion 5 and I wasnt sure if the legion was as well as the thinkpads. So thanks for your reply, it helps a lot.

[@victorarregnelle8976]

those black bars on the legion bug m so much lol

[@AlaskanGamerGuy]

You said "reaching around the back" a little too confidently.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Ha! Got me there

[@MegaDeano1963]

Great video. Which is the usual for this channel . Just off topic . Anyone else having issues with RJ45 plugs getting stuck . I suspect laptop warming socket and effecting the plastic release tab. ( I have a alienware 17 )Thanks again for review

[@consumertechwarehouse]

I haven’t used an Ethernet port on any of my laptops actually. So can’t comment sorry

[@khalidsuxx]

thnk for this vid! ur in hurry worth it

[@AlaskanGamerGuy]

Razor has always been a ripoff since we entered the 3000 series GPUs. So I guess we're going all the way back to 10th Gen in terms of Intel processors. Legion is always going to win on their intelligent cooling solutions and their ability to actually harness 12th Gen's power hungry boosting as well as the 3080's 175W power draw.

[@volcalstone]

As much as I want a 7i 3080Ti at $3,100 I recently got a 7 6850M for $1,950 with 2TB of storage instead. I can't justify spending over $1K more for similar gaming performance alone. I know the Intel CPUs are better but they are also more power hungry as well.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

When did yours come in? I ordered one because I got some comments asking to do a comparison. Mine is back ordered until mid November

[@greelish4life]

@@consumertechwarehouse happy to hear you ordered one to review. I just ordered one before they went out of stock again but also looking at the ge67 and ASUS Duo 16

[@michael8492]

I would wish me a vid where you compare high end gaming laptops for people who wanna buy a New one. 😁 Like: legion 7i/razer blade 17/raider ge77/titan gt77/scar 17se /zephyrus 16 Duo etc. i dont See much vids about xmg neo17. I think this thing is pretty good with a good configuration (and it has a optional water cooling system) This in mind maybe for the next gen cpus/gpus next year

[@MaDFroG88]

I know it’s a laptop channel but since I got the razer blade 17, I’m more interested in 14pro and Google 7 pro releases 😅

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Haha thanks. This is not just a laptop channel. Video coming on the pixel 7 pro

[@ideacreate7941]

My dream laptop is Alienware when i was kids.But now i have Legion 5 pro.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yeah I feel the same way. Alienware is still good but there’s just much more competition out there now

[@ChristianGuadalupe13]

Funny. I had the rb17, legion 7, and ge67 hx for the last few weeks. The legion is the one I’m keeping for sure. The rb had the best build quality for sure and the 17 inch qhd panel was really nice for the size. Unfortunately razer doesn’t let you run the cpu above 45w and the chassis can easily handle more. Ge67hx was the fastest of the bunch and the oled was amazing. Everything else was mediocre for the price. Cheap build quality, bad speakers, plastic trackpad. Not impressive for a $2500 laptop. Legion 7 has all the speed of the ge67hx and can be tuned with throttle stop or xtu. The build quality is pretty top notch I’d say it’s about a 9/10, if the razer is considered a 10/10. It seriously had no major flaws. All machines were i7/3070ti variants

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Lol. You pretty much just summed up my last 3 laptop videos. But 100% agree. Only difference is I’m still using the ge67 just because of the screen

[@ChristianGuadalupe13]

@@consumertechwarehouse I really wanted to keep the ge67hx but having the legion 7 and rb17 sitting next to it really made it feel cheaply built. If the rb17 let you tune the cpu on your own without resorting to modding and flashing a custom bios (not worth the trouble!) I think I would've kept that machine for sure. I think the legion has fewer faults and no major set backs for what I use my laptop for. I really hope more oled panels make their way into laptops soon. The ge67hx panel is really amazing. Makes my LG C1 OLED look old haha

[@elliot138]

7i. Is the laptop made entirely of metal? where is the plastic, where is the metal? tell

[@consumertechwarehouse]

A combination of metals. Keyboard deck is a magnesium alloy, bezels and frame of the hinge is plastic. But you’re never touching that part anyway. Everything else is aluminum Overall the legion is a premium high quality feeling device

[@elliot138]

Hello. Friend. Thank you. Can you tell me, the hinges that are responsible for opening and closing the laptop are made of what ?

[@dirkclaessens1152]

Again a very cool video 👍... In the meantime I bought completely different than expected a Lenovo P16 with i7-12800HX ana Nvida A4500 (huh)... It has a great 600 Nits 100% Adobe Dolby Vision screen, 32GB DDR5 and 2x2TB PCIe Gen 4 SSD... They build a very nice cooling system with 2 vapor chambers... A game laptop will have a bit more power but I like the totally quality of this design.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

That’s interesting man!!! I’m actually curious to check it out. I wonder how it’ll perform. That actually sounds like a perfect daily driver laptop for me too. I’m going to look into it. And if you randomly see a video on it, I’ll have you to thank. Lol. How do you like it so far?

[@dirkclaessens1152]

@@consumertechwarehouse I'm very happy with it... Performance is really good, A4500 is a little bit less than a 3070Ti but fast enough for me. Fans are ok in balanced mode and very silent in Best power efficiency mode. The screen is awesome..It's not a glossy screen but very bright, great colors and razorsharp.. It like it at least as good as my XPS15 4K display...Also easy access to add 2 memory cards and an extra ssd. Keyboard is very nice like most Lenovo's...The device is more heavy and battery life is 3 to 4 hours, also not so great...Only white keyboard light but that's fine for me...

[@dirkclaessens1152]

@@consumertechwarehouse This is the best video I found until now...but it's in German 😁kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ_Gi2WEptOog5I

[@cyberpunkstrategy4966]

Nice, I was so tempted by the P16, but after a bad experience with Lenovo when I got and returned my Legion 7i, was just not willing to deal with them again. But jealous of your machine!

[@dirkclaessens1152]

@@cyberpunkstrategy4966 I liked it that I could choose almost all components that I wanted... It's also working very good with Lenovo's Thunderbold 4 Dock...

[@denden4387]

WOW, the Legion 7i - i7 12800HX - 3070ti is NO SLOUCH EITHER!!!!

[@druanubis7194]

Wish Lenovo would loose the num pad on their gaming laptops!

[@niebuhr6197]

In my country the L7 with 3080ti isnt 3100$, more like 4800. Pathetic.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

That’s insane man!!!!

[@me-hk4ic]

lenovo support is SOOO much better

[@mr.erikchun5863]

Advice for your videos. Take all the footage of YOU out your future videos. You’re an eye sore when looking at the computers then transitioning to your sad work area.