RC Catamaran Strut Position Explained Veles 29 - Catamaran Hull Setup Fast Electric Rc Boat

[@petergoodwin2465]

I'm so happy with the Veles, thanks for the settings mate. The boat is very fast and a lot of fun , I'll give this a go.

[@Pholiage]

Thanks for explaining this. I bought a Joysway Monster cheap to see if the hobby was anything for me and couldn't figure out why it wanted to turn over all the time no matter how I placed the weight of the battery. Fun little cat but was way to unstable at full throttle. Gonna tinker with it based on this video info. Thanks again

[@IRONCLADRC]

Good luck brother. 👍 you'll get her ✅️

[@cyclonerc1625]

By the time I get a boat I'm going to be a pro. Watching all your Hard core Ironclad vids. Thank's for Sharing Big B 👊💥👍💯✌

[@h2omechanic]

Definitely helpful! I needed this information badly!

[@IRONCLADRC]

Strut position is different from boat to boat, COG has a lot to do with ride Attitude along with prop choice...

[@h2omechanic]

@IRONCLADRC yea, my Mystic 29 is 13 years old but like new, the epoxy on the battery trey cracked on the first run. Had to redo it with new epoxy. But I want to lower the trays to accept bigger battery's. I enjoy the build & test process

[@eligreggsr553]

Awesome thank you still waiting for snow ❄️ to melt in Alaska

[@georgegonzalez9281]

Thanks for the double feature today Big B! Cheers Boat Gang!

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes sir buddy. Thanks for watching

[@Truckinitup26]

This is exactly what I was looking for thanks!

[@louis5107]

Great exactly what I was looking for.... Will try on my miss geico 29 as soon as the rain stops

[@IRONCLADRC]

I've noticed when I use larger props the boat liked a higher strut position smaller props lower strut position

[@marxboatworx]

Great video mate, hardcore bonus at the end!! Bewdy!! So good seeing the the adjustments and the results on the water. Magic stuff!! BG BG4L

[@dimalranasinghe8152]

Thank you very much for the wonderful information.

[@nealstarling5422]

Great and informative video! Ok, good to know, I’ll use that strut position on my up coming re-build of my black Jack 24, motor is due in today, Im so excited! (wife rolls eyes mimics putting gun to her head) it’s ok I’ll buy her a new purse 🤣😂🤣

[@edsanderson8603]

BG4L My Brother!! Thanks for all your hard work. Where did you get your composite training?

[@10snowdogs]

Love the channel Big B, Thanks for all the info.

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes sir buddy, glad I can help 👍

[@norcalrc]

Yeah , you know What I’m gonna go do tomorrow morning right? Thanks bro

[@UlisesBatalla]

Hey big B, I swear the last time you did a prop video you had and mentioned the propellers that have a tongue are high lift, and the propellers that do not have a tongue are low. It was the way it was mentioned last time now thinking about it when you sharpen that tongue to a razor sharpness, it gets to cut into the water and depending if you have your prop at 0° or or even -1 the tongue propeller, I understand it as it cutting into the water prior to the actual cup, begins to thrust the water molecules backwards. As the propellers that do not have a tongue when you visualize one of the blades, let’s say running at 0°, coming from the 12 o’clock position down into the water starting at about the 9 o’clock position and beginning it stroke down to the 6 o’clock position, a propeller with no tongue is almost as if it’s slapping the water down and hasn’t yet pushed it back. So I’m when it comes to propellers and the voodoo magic , I was wondering when we’re going to see some of us over here in the states get a hold of some of those handmade or even model manufacture made propellers that I see the guys running on the long tail boats those things a hybrid, no tongue, but still maintains the ear shape of being able to thrust the water back. You’ve seen them, I know you have. I guess it’ll just be something more to throw into the mix, but we gotta get our hands on some of those we need to connect. LOL Oh, and never mind Torioidal propellers

[@IRONCLADRC]

I'd love to get a Thailand long tail prop, just to see how it stacks up to an ABC/ octura prop. They look completely different than our props

[@lammy884]

A good thing, your unit of mass is usually in mm 😁. I would like to see the rudder placed in line behind the propeller. It is worth a try on a cat?!

[@roadstar499]

GREAT VIDEO!

[@georgem.6136]

I love the boat, it flat out rips, if only we can figure out that stupid low speed roll over . Doesn’t need to be an ABC prop to go fast! Awesome video big B, we are Hardcore

[@IRONCLADRC]

I think norcal rc moved his battery's lower in the boat can't wait to see how his turns out. Bg4l

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Nature of the beast. It’s a narrow body so it’s prone to rolling.

[@VetteWay2Fast]

Did u have to trim down the tube a hair to run a neutral prop angle being that high? Mine pushes the prop upward being that high. Also does your Veles have a lot of play in the rudder? Mine seems to have bushings a good bit bigger than the pin and allows many mm’s of slop left to right and front to back.

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes sir I trim the stuffing tube on most all my rtr boats it doesn't take much trimming maybe a mil or two. Here's a link to how I get the slop out of my rudder it's super easy. Around 15-17min in kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpysYZ-gmdutpZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpysYZ-gmdutpZo

[@markkibbey4026]

Just a idea for you.. recently we flipped are veles boat...took on water and took out the little tiny receiver...so yes replaced it... however had a idea how to protect it next time....we ended up or used a balloon put it inside of it zip ties and no more water issues... 😊..

[@IRONCLADRC]

Oh yea I use balloons on a few boats. Use watch makers grease in the balloon opening then zip tie for added protection and or paper towel in the Ballon to soak up any moisture

[@massimiliano4258]

grazie ,aspetto altri video

[@louis5107]

What is your opinion about a 43mm prop with a 1.9 pitch for this boat.... Miss Geico 29 V3

[@IRONCLADRC]

What brand 43 9? Should be a good size worth a shot, remember with a true 1.9pitch prop low end take off will be terrible, but the topend should make up for it.

[@louis5107]

@@IRONCLADRC many thanks for your reply.... Brand is alibaba :-) I will try and find out

[@All-rc804]

Thanks. Gunna try this on my new used miss geico 29. I already done 1 video of it. Feel free to have a look. Any feed back would be great as this is the 1st time I ever put a boat on water

[@IRONCLADRC]

I'll check it out

[@skeletorrc2583]

New too your channel. I'm looking to get into boats. I'm liking this one. But really liking the UL19 proboat. I'm into R/C a have Arrma Kratonexb6s, OutcastExb8s & Senton6s V3 so I'm no stranger to powerful Rc's. I live on the lake so I'm really wanting some water action as well. I've been watching your videos for days now. And just looking for good advice and suggestion. Great videos! 👍🏻 thanks!

[@IRONCLADRC]

A blackjack 24 of the veles 29 would be more suitable for a beginner rc boater. The ul19 is a hard boat to tame she's definitely built for the more advanced boater.

[@leonardomatoso3400]

My Genesis has a tendency to lean due to the engine torque, what could be causing this, given that the axle is high and balanced?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Flat bottom strut could be adding to the roll over also I think the spray rail isn't long enough, they should have run the spray rail/strake the full length of the hull

[@leonardomatoso3400]

⁠ Chief on a catamaran, do you use any inclination to correct the touch effect? Do you use any inclination on the transmission shaft to correct the torque? which parameter should I base myself on?

[@norcalrc]

Big ups my boatgang grand poopah 2.4 for the win son

[@IRONCLADRC]

It works, just gotta get the cg right.

[@jameswilliamson4009]

Makes my want to get one!

[@zip-tieracing4307]

I have the traxxas m41 will this work for that boat to I’m having problems with it bouncing and can’t figure it out

[@IRONCLADRC]

I'm not sure, you can try it, I've run a m41 but it wasn't mine so I've never tuned one.

[@slickman1953]

I have a E51 boat, dual prop. I already have new ESC coming. What would you think would be a good motor upgrade?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Not sure? Never ran that boat, shoot I've never seen one running in a video. You'll just need to run the boat with the new esc's check motor temps, if the motors are getting got (over 170) go with a lower kv motor & or larger can size so you'll have room to prop the boat up

[@slickman1953]

Okay, I'll do some testing as soon as I get it setup. Still working on my SonicWake. There are a few videos on youtube about the E51, all fiberglass and lined with carbon fiber.

[@kwwinfield]

Big B, when you move the strut up and down are you changing the trim angle also or keeping it flat (no trim)? If keeping it flat does that mean the stuffing tube moves inside the strut at the same time? I just installed an OSE strut and cable in my BJ24 but my prop is super deep in order to have it flat. It seems like to get it up even with the ride pads the stuffing tube forces it to have a lot of upwards trim. Wondering if my stuffing tube is too long? Love watching your videos man!

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes your gonna have to slightly & gently bend the stuffing tune for the correct angle of attack. You should also consider trimming the stock stuffing tube to achieve a neutral or negative angle

[@thomasbradfield5534]

Bg4l ❤️ 2.4 mm got it making change asap thanks B!!!!

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yep glad I could help

[@aljensen7779]

OF COURSE I watched til the end! Dude, what do you mean by 'blueprinting' your boat?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Finishing the bottom of the boat removing and hooks, dips, low spots, high spots taking the boat back to a factory bottom

[@taurus6619]

hello is this a stock boat? any changes on prop ? greet.

[@IRONCLADRC]

Oxidean marine 42 high rake propeller

[@derstanni]

Will this work on the ul19? Higher strut?

[@IRONCLADRC]

No sir, it'll blow over with a higher strut position. Make sure it's flat to the ride surface and the aft tunnel is about 2 mm higher than behind the sponsons

[@ketapangrcboat]

Amazing

[@ajjayalath5561]

Hey big b, quick question would a 48.2 mm prop be over kill for the Veles?

[@IRONCLADRC]

With the stock electronics is say yes. Depends on the pitch of the 48mm prop

[@ajjayalath5561]

@@IRONCLADRC It is a 1.8 pitch it is a abc 1717-45 prop

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes most definitely. Way to big.

[@ajjayalath5561]

@@IRONCLADRC Hey i am just curious on what would happen to the boat if i used a 48.2 mm prop?

[@petertebo914]

do u ever use electrical grease

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes sir, I usually use it on my bullet connectors & esc/baytery connectors

[@petertebo914]

@@IRONCLADRC not on reciever

[@petertebo914]

@@IRONCLADRC did u ever do those rest of boats the boober the three of those

[@IRONCLADRC]

I'm working on the small one right now actually trying to get everything installed

[@petertebo914]

@@IRONCLADRC ok was justing asking

[@petertebo914]

b how doi i lkeep my recioevers for breaking

[@IRONCLADRC]

I use Corrosion X to water proof my receivers

[@hardsweatyworker]

What prop do you have

[@IRONCLADRC]

Oxidean 42 high rake

[@hardsweatyworker]

Awesome thank you

[@hardsweatyworker]

I have a traxxas m41 I wanna make it faster any suggestions

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Man I almost kinda miss my Veles. Sold it because I was getting real tired of retrieving it when it rolls lol

[@IRONCLADRC]

I wouldn't sell mine for nothing it's the fastest boat I have at the moment

[@natelewis2118]

@@IRONCLADRC so this rolling over shit is common? .... thought it was just me lol

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@natelewis2118 very common with these. It’s a narrow body with a high center of gravity and a wide range of rudder throw. Sold mine for a Miss Geico and I couldn’t be happier about it

[@dmytro5428]

What the size of prop?

[@IRONCLADRC]

42 high rake from oxidean. Links in description

[@artpeck9272]

This strut has a bushing …. Yes?

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yes

[@artpeck9272]

@@IRONCLADRC Turns out the AquaCraft part is no longer available. I’m looking at alternatives with OffShore Electrics. In the meantime, I grabbed a stick of K&S 1/4” brass tubing and made one. OD is a perfect fit and the ID is a little big but it seems to work perfectly. No more prop shaft wobble.

[@jaycevessier7554]

Damn she sure like the prop up high. Have you tried to go even higher?

[@IRONCLADRC]

I have but if you go to high the prop don't grab enough water and reduces top speed I also noticed it takes a longer runway to get the speed we're after

[@B哥-m6u]

Up 2mm ok？

[@IRONCLADRC]

Yep 2mm is good. I find tinkering with the height on the strut , run the boat tinker with height some more, run it till you find the sweet spot. From prop to prop strut heights change according to the prop your running

[@OliveiraX]

You need a bigger lake😄

[@IRONCLADRC]

I've got a nice speed run spot but it's full of fisherman this time of year

[@OliveiraX]

@@IRONCLADRC damn fishermans!

[@scottsexton2590]

Learning the lower prop position lifts the rear and pushes the nose down because it's biting harder why wouldn't you move CG back to look for the sweet spot ? And why on earth do you toss boats , scale out your drop

[@IRONCLADRC]

Well for one I was doing a controlled test with the cg the same for all strut positions, 2 I wanted to show all the new Catamaran owners what strut position does to a cat. And three these boats are made for high speed running including flips at 80 plus mile per hour flips I doubt a good Ole ironclad toss in the water is gonna break that veles..