Cross RC Demon SG4 unbox, build, test and review

[@haroldholmes4764]

Been running mine for the last 6 months over everything. And have no problems. Love the scale looks. Not a competition crawler but then it's not supposed to be. Love this truck.

[@muskokamike127]

Just for those who don't know: the difference in the detail is achieved though the molding process. Lexan bodies are vacuum formed onto a plug, the hard bodies are injection molded into an actual high quality mold like your scale model kits. Also how the parts are made for full sized vehicles and numerous other products. The vac form body is usually a plaster or wood plug. I can make one for about $100 on my cnc machine. (Once the design is done). To make an injection mold, that could cost $500,000.00. Back in the 90's I had a small one made and it cost me $55,000.00 CDN.

[@davidpigg3942]

thank you for an honest review. Seems like so many of the reviews today are sugar-coated.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Pros and Cons will grow the sport a lot more than sugar-coating

[@Jimreynoso]

They came out with a new transmission for this, it is the GB2. I wonder if you can do a review on it, perhaps it will make the difference for those of us that are on the fence about this vehicle. Thank you

[@MrKongpvu]

Your assessment is spot on! I am experiencing all the same issues. The only difference is that I stripped the front diff gear instead of stripping the tranny. I have even changed out and used the rear shock re-location kit. Better but still tipsy. The struggle is real about drive train slop and main axle coming off. The detail is amazing though.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Appreciate that input and first-hand experience.

[@1970scout800]

Thanks for the honest reviews!..you are the man!..just finished installing the 20kg servo in my bronco..going to test it after I watch this video..

[@pfarraldcash6095]

It is always a pleasure to watch your videos. you have excellent expertise, your video quality is top notch. on top of that, you are still very sympathetic. you are a pearl on KZbin. keep it up !!! Top 👍👍

[@RCReviewChannel]

thank you :)

[@Smile-N-Bear]

Glad your doin a review. Very interested in the outcome. I highly respect your reviews bro! Right On!

[@advancedtacmachine]

Thanks for actually running the truck for a couple months before the final review. I have the suv model the B so the middle hardbody with interior. Had the same issues it's fun to build but there are some issues with lash and stuff the biggest problem is that you can't swap parts from shall I say differently designed company's because of how well cross jams all the parts in. We use the hardbody trucks more for trail trucks and they are great for that. That being said I just ordered their newest model but in lexan

[@RCReviewChannel]

Right on. Really appreciate your first-hand experience and share.

[@loosfwd]

Man you guys are good. You present really well. Love your videos.

[@RCReviewChannel]

thank you!

[@beesod6412]

loving the look of this truck! thanks!

[@fredwaldrop3810]

Excellent review, you saved me 450 bucks. Thank You

[@RCReviewChannel]

We get a tiny commission when folks purchase through our links but we never want folks to make a bad purchase. So we'll always give the straight scoop.

[@frankie2499]

Has a nice skid for those hard to catch rocks

[@boostedKTM]

Just got my gen 8 and love it.

[@indyjones3287]

I'm in the market for a new crawler and have watched most of the available videos, comparing all the competition. Thanks for all the shootouts and detailed videos you've done! I want to love this truck. It looks so damn cool and scale. To me, this truck is the best looking, period. But, the drivetrain does not appear to be competition worthy.

[@RC_Rooster]

Itd be nice if their website actually gave some details on their product. It's like these guys aren't really trying to sell anything

[@Firewlkre]

Well now we see the price paid to get the floor of the interior so low. Maybe the floor can be cut and a rc4wd or axial trans can be fit, it is imo one of the best looking crawlers with the best upgrades stock outta the box out there.Any way great video and much appreciated!

[@RCReviewChannel]

Exactly. For the low interior floor, they made a micro transmission.

[@jeepmanxj]

Why? just buy an RC4WD or Axial crawler.

[@thekracken4572]

Thank you for being honest! I really love the look of this RC but I'm not sure if I want to deal with its flaws. If I do decide to get one at least I will know what I'm getting and won't be overly disappointed with its problems because you have shown me what they are.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Exactly. We want the hobbyist to be aware of what they're getting so there's no disappointment and they'll get hooked on the hobby.

[@masterchief586]

I prefer the hard bodied crawlers. They look and last longer in my opinion. Very good info and video.

[@haroldholmes4764]

Who cares if the switch was under the hood. This truck is awesome. It is a little heavy but makes the realism of the truck more accurate. Instead of having a lexan body. I have the sp4c and it's awesome.

[@johnbasterson7938]

"Its an unlicensed body so it's not scale" Sorry man but Scale and Licensed are not synonymous. It absolutely does not have to be officially licensed to in fact be "scale".

[@johnbasterson7938]

@@Hachi501st don't care. Yes duh scale is the size. However the RC slang "scale" is anything they would do on the full size rigs. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away. Hence why his talk of something unlicensed not being "scale" is meaningless in the RC hobby. Your personal opinions on the misuse is irrelevant. Slang is slang and you nor anyone you know will ever change that.

[@C0RT1Z]

If it’s not a licensed body specifically designed to be a Toyota Hilux, Range Rover, etc, then what would the body in question be “scale” of? Just a truck right? If it’s an unbranded truck that’s not very scale-detailed. You’re an idiot.

[@dwaynebaker8733]

The other cross rc vehicle is a lot better than this one, the rtr version aussie rc reviewed, it's excellent🙂👍 this model is the 1st version, they totally fixed all these problems.

[@dwaynebaker8733]

Totally trust your reviews, though excellent tests you do, appreciate your work🙂👍

[@shug97]

Aussie RC, is that because he didn't give your beloved Cross a glowing review? Get a life man!

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty impressive kit, dude! Really nice! 😃

[@IllusionSector]

It's got its share of engineering and QC blunders, but it looks hot.

[@jasenfontana4426]

Funny I've been running mine for 3 years without issue with gearing. Only thing I've changed on the c version is shorter shocks upright in the rear , weighted wheels and two links as stiffeners between the link mounts. That's it and it will keep up with anything on the market. Might want to look at your actual driving as far as the tranny gears . Sounds more like it was caused by possibly trying to throttle out of a bind which would be havok on any system

[@ZenShooter749]

Havok on any system? Try an ar44 axle with an rc4wd transmission, that thing won’t stop spinning. Might burn the motor down but not the gearing and stuff. If it’s crap it’s crap

[@jasenfontana4426]

@@ZenShooter749 nah , abuse it it breaks. Just like anything else. Three screws that hold the stock spools in the ar44 snap all the time don't kid yourself. The new one piece ar44 breaks frequently also. Rc4wd? Don't get me started there. Lol

[@rccrawlersmid-wales645]

Great review, very interesting and fair assessment. Thanks!

[@robbiekienetz1454]

I believe the large amount of play is in the diffs. I have a kr4, which is very similar, and it has that problem. Im looking to see if i can find some that are alot stiffer

[@RCReviewChannel]

Yeah it is a CrossRC problem that cannot be fixed. Not too bad in trail crawling but not great for rock crawling.

[@MrVodnev]

About transmition freeplay. I compared cross rc demon to trx4, vaterra, cmx, axial. All this chasis have same freeplay as cross rc. There is one real problem with stock deamon and its rear shock position. The problem can be solved with shock relocation kit.

[@goatman5475]

I have the same cross and none of those issues...you got a bad egg...i have added waight to the wheels and that is all

[@stpbasss3773]

Go read comments there are a lot of people saying theirs had the same problems. Bad egg maybe you just got lucky lol.

[@falconaz]

Good review. Balanced and fair.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Right on. Fans don't like to hear any negatives but we feel it's important.

[@agree992]

Hi. Can you make a suggestion what needed to make this Kit actually perform better. It is a let down considering the Body is SUPERB NICE

[@rizla1_uk211]

Great review. I like and trust your opinions on all the models you test, hence my TRX4 Defender, your review on that made up my mind and i don't regret it, but i think i'll avoid this one 👍

[@ed0c]

wonder if the lash could be fixed with better gears

[@bigpoppapaulsradiocontroll2724]

Man that looks appealing great video thats a good project kit

[@bobsennick7403]

I keep going back to this body! Looks so good. Pricy to grab it from Cross.

[@hkrcstory]

크로스 알씨는 품질이 좋고 스케일이 좋은 것 같습니다

[@00godlovesus]

Thanks:)

[@Reynoldz85]

Love your reviews man, honest and with tons of passion...please make a review on a 6x6 cross rc 1/10 scale vehicle. Keep on and thanks for the good job

[@kevinvig5]

Are you planning to review the EMO AT4 from Cross? Interested to see how it compares to the venerable TRX4.

[@vincec9451]

Dam it though i was done buying rcs 4 this year,,,,looks like the next big seller

[@Off3er]

Nah man, look at the whole vid

[@PopcornH3]

@RC Review was this the most expensive option kit with the Metal rear frame Steel driveshafts G1R axles with metal gears CNC aluminum axle housing with CVD's or is this the cheaper version? is that why the axles are poop and there is play in the tires?

[@gregarmstrong7389]

Cool shirt!

[@robertmcdonald1278]

I dig the shirt 🤩👍

[@mhorlando3746]

Hi my friend I but that kit and is so awesome really good and detail I love it,I don’t know how people saying this is no good ,if they don’t have it

[@RCReviewChannel]

It's really good for sitting on the shelf and maybe some light trail walks.

[@Off3er]

I just bought a RGT86110, hope it arrives soon, you should do a review on that! Love your vids, just subbed!

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

My only retort is - it's a SCALE Truck. If a real Truck can't do it, the Model can't either! You're Honest, you deserve the same response. 😉 I totally agree with you that at $450, it is a good value for what you get! 👍👍 I ALSO agree that the INSANE amount of play in the Drivetrain is Unacceptable!! THAT requires attention on THEIR part. Yes, proper assembly is needed... But you Guys are NOT N00bs!! You know what you're doing! If YOU'RE having issues, imagine someone with little experience building one. Also, IMHO, STUFF the Licensed stuff if it keeps costs from being outrageous!! 😋 This is absolutely on my Dream List. When I can afford one, I HOPE that they address the WEAK Transmission and crazy slop by then!!! Carmine ✈🚂🚙

[@advancedtacmachine]

Well said.

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

@@advancedtacmachine Thank you! Like Francis, I try to be honest and impartial. I hope he wasn't offended by me calling him out a little - along with the Rig. I really like CrossRC in general, great, very Scale. But at THAT Price, the Drivetrain needs to be addressed....

[@RCReviewChannel]

Yup. Appreciate your info very much. Also the angled shocks in the rear are far from ideal. They should have used shorter shocks and heavier shock oil to make this roll over less, given that nice heavy body.

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

@@RCReviewChannel Yeah, there's that issue too... Hey, it's great for the "Flex Friday" guys!! 😜LMAO

[@redline3036]

Have the SP4 and its a nice truck a lot nicer when I put 10.2 axles took out the slop :D Who knows maybe capra axles one day :D

[@nathanjohnson3564]

I bought this. Cant decided if I want to put the new crawler eddition Momba X extream esc and motor combo or the new axe system by R1 so I bought um both.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Nice!!!

[@SuperLubot]

Actually, RedCat can learn from these guys by paying close attention to the details of a proper kit, I mean, who gives a kit that is already assembled like their Gen8, where's the fun in that? This also would've been a bargain for me if it weren't for the horrifically loose Drivetrain that seemed to be made by Lego. But overall these things can be solved and it is still one heck of a kit!

[@patrickh4540]

450 $ is expensive for this car. Prices become more and more ridiculous. Not even mentioning that the product is far from flawless.

[@flamekills9554]

I'm thinking of getting a Cross RC Emo AT4 Crawler that was purchased a week before this message is written. Is it still having the same problems or are they fixed?

[@mitch_smith]

That is unfortunate. I had high hopes for them.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Yes. And the US support is not good.

[@allenaguilar9331]

What kinda paint did you use for the grill ?

[@detrickv]

I got the sg4c

[@TheDeLeonGarageCollection]

This looked so promising. You’ve found it’s weakness. Maybe this issue will be fixed or updated in version 2. Man it looks so good, so sad.😩

[@RCReviewChannel]

We know it. Looks like every single model they've been releasing (and there's some nice packages) has this drivetrain issue. It's the heart of the system so it's hard to solve.

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

Love the cross how much h are they?

[@ed0c]

looks like a lot of gear lash in transmission (haven’t gotten to conclusion yet)

[@NCmountainsYouTubeChannel]

KILLER info 👍.. NC.. ❤

[@HanksWVaRC4388]

Hate that you had problems.....but it is a sharp truck

[@RCReviewChannel]

90% of it is absolutely dialed and a good value.

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

Is it manufacture or builder

[@tylergoucher9146]

Can someone tell me where I can buy a rc body for my truck I wanna get a Ford truck body for my wpl but idk where to look?

[@mudlover4379]

Whats the Sg4a difference. Or sg4c....

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

Do you have any you tube stickers I can get or even buy??

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

Y do you say that axel mounted servos a not the besr?

[@laundrieshanging9077]

Yes, as a demon owner i can say it is definitely let down by its transmission design and slop throughout the drivetrain. Sucks because they do alot of other parts really well! Hope they design a better drivetrain that is worth the asking price!

[@JR-ew6ek]

Do you vent your tires?

[@Rare_Brad]

Thanks for the review. The truck looks good but I'll be spending my hard earned money elsewhere.

[@IllusionSector]

As an owner of one, I'd say that'd be smart of you indeed. :)

[@johnbasterson7938]

Because negatives with zero context matter.

[@benphillips1149]

@@johnbasterson7938 stop defending them. You're paying top dollar for a piece of shit

[@BykerMyk]

You passed threw the battery tray area very quickly and didn’t mention what size batteries would fit.

[@jesuscarlos5178]

What esc do you recommend for this one ??

[@RCReviewChannel]

I always recommend the Hobbywing 1080 and it's good for this one too.

[@jesuscarlos5178]

RC Review thank you this is my 5th crawler . Hopefully I’m done by next week with it . Thank you and keep up the good work

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

best? Just beat cancer what would be the best tough rockclwraler to try and get on my very smal incom

[@Apasash]

😉👍💯

[@andyt3426]

Nice review but Ian sure we have seen all of this before. The unboxing the good and the bad part of the review. Why is this published again today?

[@RCReviewChannel]

This is just a summary of the 40 minutes of 3 videos we had. Better encapsulation and some final thoughts.

[@andyt3426]

@@RCReviewChannel oh I see. Either way great video

[@retro604]

Blame the customer they didnt add shims to their sloppy drivetrain? Wont ever buy a CrossRC product. I've got quite a few cars and not one of them required any shims. Axial, Vaterra, Traxxas. No shims and no slop.

[@fernsolo]

👍🏼

[@kennethwelty1190]

I won't get one after this. My opinion is when they blame the builder they knew of the short comings all ready. I guess I would say I'm cross at them. lol

[@RCReviewChannel]

Yes, they should listen to feedback and react to it if they expect to grow.

[@markcole6475]

That’s too bad it’s got some relatively serious issues to be a contender with the other top brands! Expensive kit like that should be a bit better fit and finish.

[@labahlabahoren]

A "junk" for one maybe a "treasure" for others. I want to play with rc crawler, i can't afford to buy Axial, Traxxas, element. So i buy China - RGT, HSP, etc. They said I play "junk". Lol

[@roadrashracing1796]

Why another demon? Didn't you just do this truck?

[@RCReviewChannel]

This is a compiled version of the three videos we did on it. And some final thoughts.

[@josbarhorst]

Body always made me think Peugeot 504 pickup... not quite but close...

[@NicLewis]

Shame as its a great looking truck.

[@blueline308]

You convinced me. I wont be buying this one. Thanks Bro.

[@BrothrBob]

I agree, wont be buying this kit for sure~!

[@brentrobinson3274]

Cvd are junk in the flagship model as well been thru countless cvd finally mip made some for them that are a bit better and the transmission had same issue been thru 3 so far

[@WhiteDean45]

Heck na

[@RCReviewChannel]

agreed

[@sergejvit]

Looks like russian Lada Riva car clone 🤔

[@norsefalconer]

I'm shopping for my first rig, and I REALLY love the look of this one. I can understand some manufacturing issues if they are handled promptly with genuine solutions. But, blaming the customer for manufacturer quality control is unacceptable. Too many choices, especially if a person has a $500 budget. No thanks.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Agreed. It's the refusal to listen to customer feedback that will lead them to failure.

[@fromfin90]

what a shame, suhc a pretty body tho

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

Why

[@heihachimishima8578]

the body is nice but mechanically they are junk

[@johnbasterson7938]

This truck is kinda pointless. Its decked for competition yet has an soa servo. This will never compete in class three and get anything but last place. Sorry Cross RC.

[@RCReviewChannel]

agreed

[@chm779]

junk junk junk .dont even make those reviews sr. they make you look bad

[@chevysub432]

I got this crap car myself. Not even looking nice. Money in the toilet

[@EverHurt]

Cross is overpriced and has an absolutely piece of garbage for a transmission.

[@RCReviewChannel]

You said it and we won't disagree. The price is actually not bad. Just need it to work or be fixable.

[@chm779]

Pure junk sir.. !! Axial ..trx4 enduro ..the way to go defenitly not that one ..!! 🤮🤭

[@jasenfontana4426]

Right and spend a $1,000 in upgrades to bring those 3 up to the same quality as a cross

[@stpbasss3773]

@@jasenfontana4426 ok lmao a trx4 quality I'd above this cross, if you count looks as quality then you're not very bright. This cross transmission is garbage the trx4 transmission is bulletproof.

[@jasenfontana4426]

@@stpbasss3773 I guess mine that's 4 years old and gets beat like a redheaded stepchild is just one in a million. Oh wait I have two without issue. Move along because you don't know shit. I've sold more than you'd ever own sweetheart