RCSchim's ULTIMATE FPV-Antenna test

[@Rcschim]

Many thanks to the overwhelming amount of feedback here - so I was right - Antennas are still a hot topic, we have to learn a lot about them - because here is the key to a solid video transmission. Not on the TX side by bumping up MW output - but rather on the RX side by using good receivers and antennas! List of ANTENNAS for ROUND 2: (please reply with more suggestions if you miss something for round 2): TrueRC x-air 10db 120deg VAS MadMushroom, ION, or Crosshair MenaceRC Invader, Pico or Raptor TBS 5db patch Lumenier Pagoda v2 Foxeer Lollipop 2 (supposedly not a clone anymore) Emax Pagoda Eachine SingPad (claimed 16db patch) STRIX hoot Testupdates: I will see what the maximum distance for the sensitivity of my Spektran is. I guess if I seperate RX and TX 10m the low numbers are really close to the noisefloor... Maybe I can do the test in the evening, on an wide open field without reflectors. TFP antennas: testing them with small semi rigid coax Common questions: real life effect of DB values: every -6db the signal level is halved

[@steveallen7404]

Hi, good work and informative. You are on my list of FPV Gurus :) I am curious to see how whip antennas perform with the Menace bandicoots because strangely enough they seem to outperform many cp combinations? but maybe they are bad with many pilots flying but cant find any information on this? Thanks.

[@-meganeura]

If you want I can try to repair that VAS Pepperbox no charge, you just need to cover the shipping. Cheers from Portugal

[@skelldogTalo]

RCSchim Can't wait to see the second round! I have a menace invader patch antenna and all emax pagodas!

[@amisoftau2659]

Thanks for the great review. I'd be interested to see how the TBS 5db patch compares to the Spironet 8db patch.

[@Rcschim]

thanks for that kind offer. but I think I wouldnt use them too much. on longrange I'm ok with 2x helix + 1 spw. (on my triversity)...

[@xjet]

Those results are pretty much identical to the results I have produced with my various antenna reviews. Most of the time I fly with an Aomway SP omni and a 5-turn helical via the diversity receivers in my goggles. Gives great range and minimal dropouts. The only thing you didn't measure was axial-ratio (rejection of reflections). If you saw my last antenna test video you'll see how *I* tested this :-)

[@Rcschim]

Thanks for watching Bruce - was hoping to see you here in the comments ;-) I'll check out the axial-ratio test method - but I felt like this video was long enough already (and I re-cut it several times to get it shorter). I was especially surprised how bad the cheap helix did... what are your thoughts on 1mw and 5meters distance? practical for me (I didnt have to walk too far) - but would it be better to have more MW and more distance?

[@xjet]

Yes, at close distances, you can get some bleeding from the circuitry within the VTX so some of the signal you pick up isn't actually coming from the antenna connected to the VTX and may therefore not be correctly polarized. In my tests, the pagoda antennas had the best axial ratio (ie: were most circularly polarized) so I'd tend to use one of those on the VTX when doing the test for axial ratio on the receiver antennas. I congratulate you on your work... a video like this takes a lot of time and effort. Well done Mario.

[@Rcschim]

thanks Bruce - I know that you can really appreciate such videos since you do know how much work it is. but it's fueld by curiosity - and since I had the tools - it was actually fun! on the "bleeding" - right - I used the IRC rf powermeter v2 and a sniffer antenna and saw that right above the rf chip and the SMA adaptor you see more mw than microW.

[@halflife82]

xjet I also have noticed the axial ratio of the Pagoda antennas is near perfect. Run them on every one of my race & freestyle quads, with a pagoda & X2 Pepperbox on the goggles. I run them mainly because I run LHCP and all my friends run RHCP, so it really helps so we’re not stepping on eachother as badly.

[@garrysparks7590]

Hey thanks so much for running these test I was always told that the Amway patch was not a workable model because the way it was set up but you obviously showed it does work

[@stephensowell9578]

There is an S800 on my bench, it's the first FPV setup for me. All I knew about the antenna is all reviewers chucked the liner dipole for something else. Shopping for options in the dark, sort of came out well, ending up with the small patch that you deemed ok. What drew my attention was on the chart, showing how well the liner antenna seemed to perform. There is a lot I need to learn. That is why videos like this are appreciated very much.

[@Rcschim]

Thanks for taking the time to write such feedback. Good luck with you're first fpv adventures!

[@mostlyharmlessrc3920]

Great information! Happy to see my favorite (old) blue aomway spw doing so well. 😎

[@SickocrowAU]

One of the best demonstrations of antennas I've seen. 👍👍👍

[@neojeets]

Thanks for the video👍. I like this kind of testing better than just watching DVR flight footage comparisons.

[@Rcschim]

Thanks - glad you liked my approach. as with my latency measurements I really enjoy gathering good data and putting it into a ranking table.

[@joecrush1118]

I fly the Aomway and the triple feed patch with great reception, Excellent videos always.

[@Rcschim]

thanks

[@PerchEagle]

Thanks for the info, but I still don't know what is the best ? Could you recommend me any of these antennas ? Thanks,

[@blade10w40]

Nice to see what I've always thought about Aomways CP antennas, and wondered about the triumph. Would love to see you test some MenaceRC antennas, especially their new Pico patch that I just got. I think it's much better than the patch it replaced but it's so hard to tell when you're not sure what direction you/the quad is facing. Love the video. Can't wait for more

[@sergeymoskalenko9167]

You have done a great and rewarding job! It's a pity you can't put 1000 likes! Thank you very much!

[@Tribal1974]

Thanks for the Antenna comparison test , few surprises for me with some of the antennas. Enjoyed the video

[@macelius]

Thanks for the comprehensive testing, it was especially interesting to see clover vs triumph vs pagoda omni.

[@dkhallal]

Great job Schim! Perfect test for so many different antennas. Great to know my Spironet patch and Aomway rhcp with the plastic cap is the best setup for my goggles! Thanks for all your work.

[@Rcschim]

thanks. yeah - good to know those old and easy antennas are actually not all that bad :) the newer, fancier antennas are sometimes just there to be sold, because many users just listen to myths and subjective reports... other antennas however seem to work better in special conditions (reflections, races, ...)

[@sigvaldithor]

Thanks for doing this test, i have been thinking that once i break all my triumphs i should switch to something cheaper but after this test i will keep buying them, the null point is the test i care about.

[@Rcschim]

I actually consider using them triumphs more now. I always was a bit dissapointed when comparing them "on the fly" literally - but maybe I didnt do the "overhead flying" test - where they would show advantages. also in my reflection tests the Pagodas were better in ignoring reflections - the triumphs worked not so well here. so a pagoda with good axial ratio and sphere instead of doughnut - that's what I would want. thought the lollipop or axii does this - but I'm not sure...

[@mrmidnight32]

Soooooas a REALLY new guy, aka I still haven’t even received my drone parts in the mail yet. What antenna should I buy for my goggles and drone? I watched but got so confused with all this info and testing. I literally know nothing about this sport but just know the stick antenna you started with which I have suck and I need new ones. Could you give me a set for both the goggle and drone to buy at least just to start with?

[@bmtours]

Awesome video! This is exactly what I was looking for. One notable exception I thought missing: TrueRC X-AIR 5.8 I'm particularly interested in this patch because it supposedly works even if you fly behind it (meaning you can use on a non-diversity rx if you don't go that far to your rear but with all the advantages of a patch). I look forward to round 2 and seeing even more options! Keep up your great work :)

[@Rcschim]

x-air and VAS crosshair sound interesting - compiling a list of antennas to get for round two at the moment :)

[@halflife82]

RCSchim add an Emax Pagoda & also your own kit built FarVew antenna to the next batch. The X2 Air by TrueRC is the other one I run which is amazing and has 180* coverage in front of you! (It’s a bettter mounting pepperbox)

[@joliver1981]

I always thought my Aomway worked best and this confirms it! Great video!

[@halflife82]

3.6km today and only turned around due to battery, video was still perfect. 600mW Tramp VTx w/ Triumph. For VRx 2x of the new VAS Crosshair Extreme RHCP antennas on a true-d v3.8 fw. On the second VRx which was also a true-d v3.8 fw I had mounted an IRC 8dbi RHCP patch & a TrueRC X-Air and this second one also had perfect video at 3.6km, no problem as well. So all these antennas were pretty much equal at this range, but if I had to pick for best video quality and least break-up for the duration of the flight it was best to worst: 1. VAS Crosshair Extreme 2. IRC Spironet 8dbi 3. TrueRC X-air

[@gildardo]

Thanks for the video RCSchim, it's so much better than the original eachine omnidirectional. Very helpful video.

[@frankbarajas]

Nicely done and great real world testing. Simple, yet effective. Thank you.

[@gjcg]

Excellent review, very helpful. I saw another comparison between two triple feed patches from two different manufacturers and one performed better than the other. Investigating the issue further the reviewer discovered they performed better with a longer cable separating them more from the receptor, like the little coax cable on the cheap helical you used. Maybe that is why it didn't perform its best.

[@Rcschim]

Thanks for the tip - I'll try it with a short semi rigid cable. I thought I'd see more difference between with/without a proper terminator. On the other side: maybe the terminator wasnt a proper one :)

[@roberlousas5547]

congrats, the most serious and complete comparison of antennas. Great help to decide 👍👍

[@WildCaptures]

Awesome test👍 I have the Circular wireless and I love it.

[@Aspir3]

love the information this video gives, thank you so much. I almost bought 6GHz VNA to get the same 😅

[@Rcschim]

Thanks, stay tuned, making another antenna test soon here!

[@Aspir3]

@@Rcschim looking forward to it :)

[@arnerrvik7586]

This is really high quality testing. Thanks a bunch!

[@derikdang8829]

Excellent info RCSchim. Thanks

[@BOKI797]

RCSchim you really do Great reviews & put some Time into them ! Your just Great ! Thanks for the Video !

[@Rcschim]

thanks

[@SbangFPV]

Amazing stuff. Why didn’t you test the Truerc antennas? Thank you so much for amazing research. ❤

[@Rcschim]

Thanks, been quite a while since I last tested antennas. Been testing and using truerc in later tests. In fact I mostly fly truerc xair2 on my DJI goggles V2 and singularity omnis in the air units. Works great.

[@gittarpikk]

You sir, just took most of the mystery out of the way most of these CP antennas operate.No lab enviro, just a simple 'what you see is what you get' which allows anyone to decide what antennas they would rather use. It would have been nice to see a few of those white ping pong ball type with the TX and RX printed on top (real cheapos) as I have had decent results with those and would be interesting to see how they really stack up in a shootout like this one. I found an interesting GS system which uses a triversity which I use a cp 3 turn helix in center, and a pair of aomway patches on each end covering 180 swath..then drop it to a 25 mw and cp clover for rebroadcast. Whole thing sits on a tripod . This allows me to use a clover and head tracking on the goggles..but the GS is "tracking by rssi" via patches... works on any plane and all without using gps tracking.

[@aphinion]

This was really really helpful. Thank you for that!

[@jester3265]

Excellent field results of some great antenna, many thanks.

[@MCsCreations]

Great tests and comparison, man! And I agree with you, an Aomway and some patch antenna for the win. 😊

[@Billbobaker]

Amazing review and test. Some things bug me a bit as I know that some of those that failed your test seem to work amazingly well on my FPV system.. But My tests also found several of your good ones to be my good ones as well with just flying and having a look to compare each.. Aomway clovers are amazing value the triple patch were the best diversity companion to them. I bough lollipops and have yet to try them but the weigh savings looks to be good.

[@xdroner1009]

Thanks for shared information mate ! ....few days ago i was looking to choose between aomway helical and TFP :)

[@blackmennewstyle]

Great work as always Mario

[@Rcschim]

thanks a million Cedric :) I'll check the emax pagodas if you say they are so good! helicals are good, but only on groundstations. once a friend of mine used them on his goggles. he was good at using his ears to calculate head movements - like a human headtracker :) but unless you have this gift- only smaller helicals (5turn) would work on goggles...

[@halflife82]

Yes, outside of home made with lots of care, the EMAX rate at the top for Pagoda brands in performance. Maarten Baert even lists how each brand does in general on his website.

[@hoverbotfpv1425]

I missed your vids man! I am dustingoff my old school FPV gear before buying the best so thanks for keeping up the reviews. I wonder if your TBS is still ok up in the mountains all by itself. LOL! I think I remeber you lost a quad up there.

[@Rcschim]

So far I have 2 Kwads sitting their in the mountains. I think they will be there for quite some time as carbon doesnt rot to soon I guess...

[@hoverbotfpv1425]

@@Rcschim I figured so. Not much pressure on flyers here despite all the talk but I am flying the Babyhawk in city. I'll go to the mountains to fly free and lose the expensive quads. LOL! I have to dive the Squamish Chief rock face, base jumped it once.

[@TerminatorDuo]

Best FPV-Antenna test on youtube!

[@Rcschim]

Thanks - but that means that you probbably havent watched Bruce (RcModelReviews) antennatests :)

[@TerminatorDuo]

Haha yes.. haven't seen it but I will. Bruce was one of my first teachers on fpv quadcopter stuff and I like him a lot!

[@RobisonRacing68]

That was very interesting Mario! I feel good now about using the Aomway blue. I like them. Good stuff! Thanks!

[@morshaFPV]

I was hoping to see the Vas ION. Great video!!!!

[@fallenwout]

Good comparison, thanks for your time.

[@MrTeeseeone]

I was just looking for something like this, gogo SChim :D

[@Rcschim]

nice to see this still gets attention. I'm planning for a next round but still need to collect some more antennas.

[@onemantwohands5224]

As always ,I love it!! This video has come at a very good time for me in my journey . Thanx mate from Australia :-) :-)

[@Rcschim]

nice to read this. I bear with you and your supposedly cold weather now. It's our turn here on the northern hemisphere :) good to hear the video was helpful - that's the best kind of feedback I can get!

[@onemantwohands5224]

RCSchim hahaha, geez if you could call it that , brisbane Queensland isn't really ever cold by European standards but still I whinge about being cold LOL every Damn day at the moment . Cheers

[@chemistt]

I just for the fun of it and because they are unbreakable got one pair of TBS Triumphs. Its not making too much sense to use those as a pair but I fly triumph and receive on a Triple feed patch and love the fact that I dont have to pay no attention to orientation while freestyle flight. You might say that its not that much of a difference but it is. Recently Ive swapped one on my main quad and its really annoying getting into the "eye of the donut" :)

[@dstaron3162]

Good job!!! I am wondering if these results apply to all my little quads that only have little omni whip antennas on them?

[@Rcschim]

yep, the little ones with only linear antennas are not optimal. sometimes they are available to more than 25mw because of this shortcoming. with more mw you can get away with those antennas. the other thing: try little spws or axii / lollipops with ufl connector (check to see if this fits on your copter).

[@chrisf5475]

Great testing and the area looks beautiful! Are those cheap patches not linear polarised?

[@Rcschim]

Not sure about this one to be honest. some of them are. Not sure how you see this. I think the circpol patches achieve their CP thru different cable lenght to the single patch elements - but I could be wrong.

[@dukedblu]

👌👌👌👌 yes ! Very nice to see the rumors were actually not far from the truth. Very nice review. THANKS

[@GeorgeCooper_LoneWolf]

Excellent test Matey, and plenty of info... Nice one

[@droidgull]

Thanks for a very interesting video! So the linear antennas are OK when the polarization is correct? Does this mean that I can use a simple linear antenna on my quad, and four simple linear antennas at different angles on my goggles?

[@Rcschim]

In theory, yes. But while the reception might be good in most cases you forget multipathing: if your copter emits video signal which is then reflected by an object, your goggles will receive 2 signals at slightly different times. this gives interference as well. if you had circ antennas, the reflected signal would be way less powerfull and not so much intereference ;)

[@droidgull]

OK, on a field linear antennas might work good, but in a city environment with a lot of reflection I need CP antennas. I'am new to FPV and just baught goggles, Eachine 200D, they was delivered without antennas. I guess I have to buy some antennas and try.

[@Rcschim]

@@droidgull my best tip yet are the aomway spw antennas in blue. see if you get them. they are like 10$ for 2 pieces I think. Or get cheap pagodas. most of these antennas are quite good.

[@sinablookat9260]

it was a great video, but at the end I couldnt understand which ones you personally choose ? and which one you think are best for rapidfire on HDO goggles please?

[@Rcschim]

Check the xls spreadsheet from the info and see which one performed best. I would go with spw antennas

[@goballistik1]

Good day Mr. SCHIM! I have been very interested in a better antenna set up and wondered if you might be willing to do one of these antenna shoot out once a year and possibly revisit new versions of tech in comparison to older tech so we can maybe have a better idea of what may be more reliable. So much happens in a year that I feel it would be super useful. Thanks man, superb videos, I appreciate your skill and attention to details. Have a great week and safe flying.

[@Rcschim]

Yes sure. Have you seen my recent patch antenna test? Also planning a round 2 of this measurements. Check description here to find the xls results to see already the list of new antennas (without results for them yet)

[@goballistik1]

@@RcschimI did see that video all of the information you've shared goes into great consideration before making adjustments to my rigs, Thank you. If you've had the chance to pick up any of the ORQA antennas it would he nice to see your findings.

[@tabdougherty8549]

Another excellent production thank you. I have always had good results with the triple feed units i have even used it for div. on my airways 2X That way n o matter what way my head is turned at the oposite end of the field i am good LOL. Adjusting my head while doing hard turns flips or rolls is difficult for me ! again thanks for the informative video. Liked and shared

[@bspringer]

Hast du evtl noch Daten zu der Pilz-Antenne die ebenfalls (neben der Patch-antenne) mit den eachine vr006 kommt? BTW: das am Ende war die am wenigsten motivierende (aber wahrscheinlich dafür ehrlichste) Werbung die ich je gesehen habe 😂👍

[@JeffriRanger]

I have looking for an antenna for my goggle You answered my question as well Thank you

[@JorgeJimenez2020]

Good tests! Do you have any recommendations on how to build and test my own antennas?

[@DutchRC]

That was very informative sir! Thank you for all the test (and editing) work :)

[@Rcschim]

thanks for appreciating the editing work - was quite a bit here.

[@jsvno]

Very interesting - you are doing a good job here....

[@zekegibson3976]

Thanks for putting this together! Questions - why no VAS MadMushroom, ION, or Crosshair? No MenaceRC Invader, Pico or Raptor? Lumenier Pagoda v2? These are by far the most common antennas I see attached to goggle RX modules every weekend, and if I'm interpreting your results correctly it seems like other than the 12dB Helix the Immersion RC patches destroyed everything else, which is sad. So we learned that using an IRC patch that came with my FS goggles on the receiver side works great at a short distance and ranks #3 in the ultimate test. I understand buying lots of antennas sucks, which is why you probably don't have the ones I mentioned above. Moar.

[@Rcschim]

thanks for your list - I'll try to get some of these for the next test. VAS is a bit harder and expensive to get outside the US I think. plus I didnt have the best experience with their pepperbox - which was why I didnt buy more of their rather expensive antennas... I think AndyRC tested the MenaceRC Invader and pico - I'll take a look at them for sure! yep - looks like the little patch from IRC is a really good std. goggles antenna...

[@zekegibson3976]

Ahh yes I have never tried a Pepperbox, though as you illustrated it really is intended for ground stations and you didn't have the best experience with it, so I can understand some hesitation and / or concern. I agree the cost for the VAS antennas is a bit higher than others, and since I live in the US although some of them are sold out from my favorite suppliers periodically they are not too difficult to find here though that may not be the case outside of the US as you have said. On my first set of goggles I started with the IRC Spironet RHCP omni and the little patch that was included and I thought it was an "OK" combo but really had no prior experience, or other setups to compare to so wasn't sure what to expect from other antenna options. I moved to a VAS MadMushroom omni and kept the small IRC patch, saw a marked improvement personally, in my setups where I fly. I then replaced the little IRC patch with a VAS Crosshair, that became my favorite setup on that set of goggles, the penetration through trees and tall grass was better with the Crosshair in particular. I use a Furious True-D 3.7 RX module in both sets of goggles, calibrated per the instructions. On the second set I eventually settled on an ION omni which is nice and compact, and seems to be tuned quite well. I also have a MenaceRC Invader on that set, which I have been happy with, again it's nice and compact. But this is why I am looking forward to seeing how the Pico performs! For the Raptor and Lumenier Pagoda v2, personally I have yet to try them on the RX modules. I'm curious though how much of a performance difference, if any really exists between the different Pagodas. These are just my personal experiences, again with my specific setups where I fly. So I am curious to see how these would rank using your testing setup and methodology :)

[@Rcschim]

wow, that's a lot of feedback - thanks for sharing. Antennas are still a hot topic. the crosshair sounds good - I will try to get one now :) Testing can be really complex if you consider all the facts: I could have looked at something like Bardwells SWR meter considerations and look at each antenna at it's best tuned frequency. but man - that's way above my time budget limit at the moment for doing such tests :) Also I feel like the antennas should be tested as most users would use them - and I think many users just use Fatshark 1 as it's preset (or whatever VTX they have)... As with my latency testing - I will try to keep consistent updates to my antenna test XLS sheet.

[@zekegibson3976]

Agreed, if you tried to test each antenna at the frequency it appeared to perform the best at, it would be alot of extra time and more importantly I think you are spot-on with evaluating them just as most people would after a purchase, take it out and attach it to the goggles and go fly. Personally if I knew an antenna did great on 1 or 2 frequencies but wasn't good on the others I wouldn't buy it, that flexibility is needed so you can work around other pilots and the environment to a limited extent. I still see people flying in the FS band, they are accustomed to easily changing channels within that band because they have been doing it for a long time and it's working for them so all good. I was the first one in the group to utilize RaceBand and went all the way up to 8 (5917), and it's entirely possible my setup might be more ideal on a different channel, but it works so I haven't experimented much with alternate frequencies within the RaceBand. And what power am I really getting from my vTX and antenna combo at that high frequency? This is why I need that sweet IRC v2 meter you have! Also I wanted to thank you for doing your tests outdoors, not in a workshop / office / garage where all kinds of other factors could come into play, but you'd have a hard time proving it, etc. I think it just makes sense to test outdoors where people would fly. Thanks again!

[@hc100]

i would also like to see test on the STRIX hoot antenna. they seem to be getting popular

[@FirenikoTube]

Nice, but can you check how will reduce power any connectors and adapters? very interesting to see w/ wo results for one of antenna. Thank you

[@Rcschim]

That's A Good Idea. Normally sma connectors with good contact don't affect it too much. Longer cables have a huge impact tho...

[@FirenikoTube]

on glasses we have SMA 45/90. and SMA has 500 cycles of connections but with critical moment in N-m (ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%8A%D1%91%D0%BC#SMA) Interesting to know how will be affect to results connection bykey or by hand

[@James_Roth]

Awesome comparison video! Question: Since your dB readings are on a logarithmic scale, what is the real life effect on range or reception quality within a few dB difference? Trying to wrap my head around the test results and put it into perspective. Thanks for your hard work!

[@alasdair4161]

Liberty Aloft every -6db the signal level is halved, using that formula, 3dB is is roughly 25%

[@AndyDreadFPV]

Thank you very much for this... I would like to see the truerc x-air 10db 120deg tested. I love this antenna

[@MiniMicroFPV]

Great and informative test! I’d like to see it repeated whenever there are some new antennae to test. I’m curious about the new Menace RC Pico Patch:)

[@zeoverlord]

interesting test, though i think the eachine patch is on backwards, found this out after i lost a drone and i was using it to find it and the signal kept getting weaker as i moved "towards" it.

[@bl4ckr4bbit]

Results applicable for tinywhoop using dipole transmitter antennas?

[@audiogek]

10:15 Made a small mistake there, Foxeer antenna but IRC label in the bottom left corner. Or was that just for comparison ?

[@Rcschim]

Thanks for feedback, you watched closely! It is a typo in the header. Should say foxeer Thor. The numbers below it are correct tho...

[@attilavvgilles4829]

Nice test now same test for transmitter.

[@serious-rc933]

Bin neu im FPV dein Video hat mir die Kauf auswahl erleichtert, vielen dank :)

[@Rcschim]

Danke daß Du Dir Zeit für ein Kommentar genommen hast - das motiviert mich weiterhin solche Videos zu machen. Antennen sind schon recht wichtig. Viel Spaß beim Fliegen!

[@tanahhuat1757]

Awesome review Sir

[@peterzingler6221]

Ich frag mich ja ob eine rotierende patch Antenne funktionieren würde? ähnlich wie ein flugradar nur halt schneller ?

[@Rcschim]

Interessante Idee. Aber ich denke damit hätte man die meiste Zeit einfach schlechten Empfang. Weil die Antenne die meiste Zeit nicht in die richtige Richtung schaut. Damit hat man einen Stroboskop-Effekt...

[@SirCrashaLot]

Such a great and informative video. Clears lots of misconceptions. It would be impossible to show how frequency can impact the performance but that would be the only element missing. 8db IRC is awesome all around due to its form factor. But 13db is great for long range when mixed with spironet. It really is. It helps to combat super narrow near reception. Which matters unless target is just in front. Then there are Eu based manufactures of super nice antennas like Actuna, their gem is compact and Rhcp. Cheap too, they make pagodas, excellent linear antennas with u.fl and of course quality patches. Lastly: where in earth you got that small terminator? I need to know :) Love your work cheers from Holland

[@Rcschim]

Thanks! Actuna antennas look nice - will have to check them out. Gem is a nice one... The terminator is sold on banggood - check the links... (under "additional links" below the video index)

[@qygpygpq707]

nice test i hear that antennas are better in their specific frequence.. the lenght of the leafs for example define a frequence where it works best

[@aliffamsyar1754]

Very good job..tq..give me ideas which one is better for my goggle👏👍

[@dleivam]

Wow.. This video is gold... Kudos

[@Rcschim]

thanks!

[@EnglishTurbines]

Great testing....I was surprised how many of the skews gave a similar performance. On 5.8G, I always use the hated RD on my vtx and a pair of 14dbi Linear Patch antennas on my (true) Diversity Monitor, which works rather well for me. For serious FPV, its 1.2G for me, which is far less picky and works at much lower altitudes. I think the small black Eachine patch may have been a vertically polarised antenna explaining its poor performance...? Its significant, when they dont indicate polarisation on their antennas, its reason enough to not even consider them for purchase IMO. My suggestion?...an RD on the VTX.....and a 14dbi Linear patch at the receive end.....This combination was not in your test...?

[@Humboldt710]

Excellent testing, but the antenna I wanted to see the most was the Pepperbox and it wasn't definitive.

[@Rcschim]

maybe I can get an updated version of it. the one here had a really crappy mount. but since the trend is to goggles only RXs I wouldnt use such a larger antenna that often.

[@TheShark1313]

Hi, nice work 💪🏽 what are the best one to make long rang? Regards

[@Rcschim]

Helicals are best IMHO for long range! 7turn or 5turn (more turn - narrower beam but more range)

[@TheShark1313]

@@Rcschim thanks for your attention 🙏🏽💪🏽

[@sergeymoskalenko9167]

Perfect review and test!!!

[@FLOwFPV]

Great! But you should try the antenna of la fabrique circulaire

[@s52ft]

At 2:14, linear - horizontal antenna are not bad. If you mismatch polarization you lose 16dB.

[@MkmeOrg]

Really well done!

[@MrStevegibb]

Any chance you could test the size of the null area on antennas in degrees as well? When long ranging I have gone from perfect video to absolutely nothing on RTH with a aomway sp clone and i suspect i went into the null area of the antenna and i am looking for an tx antenna with really good signal dispersion. Also the null at both ends might be different so worth testing both. For TX the bottom null is very important as its entered more often whereas for RX the top null is more important. Thanks for the video interesting to see that some patch antennas are no better than an omni for pure gain.

[@Rcschim]

some interesting points here. I'm afraid this get's to deep into "real measurement applications" which you would need lab equipment rather than a practical "on the field" test... also the video might get a little long. I see how I can improve it in that regards - while at the same time keep it short. I agree that TX bottom null is important. but I guess most antennas are quite symmetrical (top / bottom null should be the same - but I could be wrong).

[@lanceloeffler2160]

The triple feed patch - could I use a 50 ohm dipole antenna instead of the dummy load?

[@Rcschim]

sounds right, but I cannot say for sure. I dont even know (or have seen) that the dummy load there makes any difference.

[@ourchannel8215]

try naked standard liner antena...and micro vee...i think this is good and very light and durable

[@Mandolgin]

Great video! I think I'm going to buy a triple feed patch, as it's the cheapest option..

[@onclefly8450]

Hi, thank a lot for this good job, Mario. 😉 Me I use Aomway blue, Turbowing Directional and Mushroom very good antenna.

[@Sergiopalm]

Excelente Trabajo. Saludos

[@MusaSohail]

Thanks for the help man!!!

[@billsomrak]

A shame you didn't have a good VAS antenna. I pretty much use all VAS antennas: RHCP, & helical. I also have a few patch antennas. I do have a set of "Birds Eye View" antennas, with the small RHCP on the camera quad and the matching patch on the diversity monitor. Also have some Menace RC patches, which are good. It's good to have a diversity setup so that you can optimize reception. Cheers.

[@patsjoholm]

Awesome stuff, thanks for this!! If you even repeat the test, please instead move the entire receiver horizontal, instead of bending the antenna to 90 degrees. I think that sharp of a bend will also reduce the antenna's abilities. Still, thank you thank you, very nice video!

[@scottmarshall6766]

I've settled on Aomway Commanders (after BeeRotor and Headplay boxes), still like both, but Commanders have a way of disappearing that the boxes just don't. In the RF department, the Commanders are a little better than the Headplays and are much better than the Beerotors - noise is much worse in the Beerotors than the others, but they are quite old by our standards, 3 years now... The Headplays still amaze me every time I break them out though. That big screen just draws you in - if only they were the size of the Commanders we'd have a winner! This is a very subjective thing.... On the left receiver (for the field where I fly most) I have a VAS 10db Crosshair on a 45 to aim it and on the right input I go back and forth between a VAS Mad Mushroom and Aomway blue. (still have not decided) I've tried most of your list except the pagoda styles, and my feelings closely match your more scientific tests. When I fly my small stuff with linear Tx antennas, I change the Crosshair to a Bandicoot Menace Patch (I leave the RHCP on the other side) and it works quite well. If I remove the Omni, the Crosshair will walk you to a downed quad by turning your head until you get snow in both directions, then walk down the middle. Thanks for taking the time to make the videos. It's appreciated. Just bought a IRC RF Meter after your review as well.

[@Rcschim]

thanks for the feedback Scott. Often read it - but never (had to) try finding a quad with a directional antenna. sounds good tho. You only need some luck that on the crash your battery doesnt disconnect :) Crosshair is top of my list of antennas to get for test #2 :) rf powermeter should work as a quadfinder with a directional antenna as well...

[@embie8350]

Great vid, thanks for the work...

[@-Gruntled]

Many of us who fly smaller quads with linear dipole antennas would be curious how the linear patch antennas (in different orientations) perform.

[@WildpixFPV]

Danke, wieder ein wunderbar ausführlicher und erfrischend sympathisch gemachter Test! Meine Persönliche Empfehlung, Cloverleaf von einem Profi der in Rente ist und das nur als Hobby betreibt, um FPV-Enthusiasten unter die Arme zu greifen, also auch sehr günstig zu haben: Cloverleaf-Antennen, frequentiell genau eingemessen und aufeinander abgestimmt (Macht dir ruck zuck eine Sender-und Empfänger Antenne nach deinen Wünschen) Zu finden auf Ebay Kleinanzeigen, dort einfach nach "Chipsundgrips" suchen ;-) Ich nutze eine 11cm - Ausgabe von ihm an meiner Fatshark Dom V3, am Copter habe ich die Foxeer Lollipop, und bin absolut begeistert, es ist eine wahre Erleuchtung gewesen, 80m hinter mir durch ein paar Bäume durch und kein Streifen im Bild! Viel Spaß beim Fliegen, Grüße aus Berlin! :)

[@Rcschim]

danke für die Infos! Also gute Erfahrungen gemacht mit den lollis? Vielleicht sind die als sender besser geeignet wie als Empfänger...

[@WildpixFPV]

Immer gerne, freue mich ja, wenn ich dir mal etwas zurück geben kann :) Ich hab die lollis bis jetzt nur als Sender eingesetzt, aber habe sie schon auf den Goggles von Kitt FPV oder Tommy Ummagawd von RotorRiots gesehen.. Sind bestimmt auch eine sehr gute Sender-Empfänger-Kombi!

[@tirexutus]

Perfect Explanation. But, better with a portable VNA, more easy. Thanks.

[@Taufik.Moktar]

So which patch antenna is da best from 1-5?

[@oliundtrude5318]

Hallo lieber RCSchim, danke für Deine sehr guten Videos. Die besten Antennen gibt es in Handarbeit bei Flossmann wlan_antenne im eBay Shop unter 5.8 GHz Biquad, neu ist die 5.8 yagi !!! Ich habe die Biquad seit Jahren auf dem Empfänger. Es gibt nichts Vergleichbares zu dem Preis. Absoluter Tipp.

[@GoldenFpv]

Thanks a lot for this test ! :)

[@DanRichmondFPV]

Thanks for doing this very interesting and informative!

[@dandara87]

That's a lot of work, thanks

[@AirsoftNY]

Great! Thanks for this, very useful