Restoring an Old Tom

[@GTcroove]

just watching you assemblying drum makes me relaxing somehow lol

[@emmanuelsguidetominnesotav4396]

GTcroove SALAD FINGERS. HOLY BALLS

[@SparkyNarwhal]

dude, I'm not even a drummer yet here I am, enjoying the hell outa this.

[@Super_Nope_13]

That's Richmond Virginia! I lived there for years... I had no clue you were from there. Dag homie.

[@dav2145]

Thanks for taking the time to finish this video, I'm learning a lot of useful things as I do from all of your videos, as I start to tackle the job of restoring and tuning up some of my old drums.

[@drumsNstuff79]

David, I had the same thing happen to me with Gibralter! I got a set of the new flush base hardware. In the high hat you know that it comes in two halves and the top rod threads into a nut on the bottom rod. While watching the olympics this summer I was putting it together and the top rod just wouldn't go. Running, threading. Sprinting, threading. Jumping, Threading.. swimming, threading.. Uuuugh!! Looking in with a flashlight in frustration I realized that the nut had no threads cut in it! after emailing DW customer service they sent a new stand right out, and and said they'd send a pre paid label to send the old one back. But it never came! I still have the old high hat stand. I think i'll save it for parts unless you think you might want it. I've heard some rumblings on my favorite drummer forum about their QC too.

[@vanilla5.0]

did you get a sponsorship from white lithium grease

[@rdavidr]

no, but I should..

[@oddclaymations8193]

rdavidr yup

[@Duocaster]

This is probably my favorite KZbin channel of all time

[@stevelinwood8362]

Dave, I enjoy all you're Videos,

[@danmayo9182]

I love the wrap on that tom. Super retro/groovy!

[@Benjarmon]

111 away from 66,666 subscribers. Congrats.

[@mightyV444]

@TotalBallisticMayhem - Almost THREE times as many subscribers now that I am watching this! :-)

[@bobmercury8550]

that info about the springs in the tom lugs was REALLY useful!

[@ChaosPootato]

I love how you used cymbals to hold the old tension nuts and a drumhead to clean the lugs. Also, congrats on being recognized for the first time! *playing Now You're A Man in the background*

[@MichaelDBauer]

Absolutely love your videos. I've learned much in the form of doing things in a logical or simple way. You're welcome with the information that this is a Majestic Deluxe (like the picture in my avatar when I was actually young), but the mistake could be made because MJ used Slingerland style lugs. Easy mistake. I love the cotton idea you used for potential spring rattle. It's brilliant. My wife bought me a vintage Ludwig Supraphonic snare for my 61st birthday. While I'm in the process of restoration, I added the some cotton to the lugs even though they are not likely to rattle. It's an easy way to assure each restoration and only takes a few seconds to do.

[@surfcollector]

You missed one crucial step when bringing these old Japanese drums back to life...the bearing edges. You'll always have to take some very fine sandpaper and gently smooth out the factory edge, keeping the intended profile. Not a lot of care was taken in the factory on the edges, but cleaning them up will hopefully help the sound. When you have them super smooth, run a little car wax polish over them and buff until smooth. This will help with the head seating and stretching. I collect these old Japanese kits from the mid to late 60's. Depending on what they are branded, they are either pre-Tama or pre-Pearl. Many, many different brand names but they all came out of the same two factories. They can become decent kits with a little love. Coolest wraps too! Yours is Blue Onyx/Agate. Rogers called it Agate, Slingerland called it Onyx.

[@jackhwthorne]

I've been creating an electric set out of my dad's acoustic set he played in the early 80s. Still had the original heads from when he got in a horrid car accident in '89 (he's virtually unaffected today) and I live the way they look, I'd just like to make them look new, but I want to make it worth my money and really stand out

[@drummattk]

When I did a couple old drum set clean ups in the past, I used the Lysol all purpose spray foam cleaner on the grimey metal parts and it actually worked great. Better than anything else imo

[@samjimenez8713]

The restoration vids are my favorite

[@ivanmenesesmx]

dude, what the hell happened to the background music?? that was one of the best part of your videos!

[@rdavidr]

any track I used didnt seem to fit, so I decided to leave it out for this one

[@elijahthomas2709]

rdavidr the music was great what us it

[@DJMarkyBu]

Make a video cutting a tom shallower, like, reducing the depth of it. Also, love your videos, cheers from Brazil!

[@tylerspatafore9315]

This ended up being an unboxing video. I love it.

[@nicolek7061]

hey! i don't play the drums and i don't know anything you're talking about half the time but i think your videos are so interesting and i watch them all the time lmao. subscribed.

[@MrLeatherface805]

That's cool that DW hooked you up with a "free shirt and stickers" for the inconvenience. Their in Oxnard, CA and the Gibraltar product comes from Portland, TN.

[@rickabick1982]

nice fusion sound at 5:38

[@therealmatthew293]

These videos are bliss

[@lvvry1855]

What did you do at 2:50? Fill in a hole? With what? Amazing tip at 3:25 with dampening the spring.

[@Karch.Dah-Veed]

I've got a Star Drums (pre-Tama) Majestic Deluxe kit just like this one. Pretty cool old sets.

[@gretchman]

There are tons of different old vintage Japanese drums under a million different badges. Some are made by pre-Tama and some are pre-Pearl. Majestics are Tama-made, if I recall correctly. My first drumset was a mix of Apollo and Majestic, which are Pearl and Majestic brands, respectively. Different names were distributed to different regions of the USA. Most all of them are a type of mahogany from the Philippines and have a very rounded bearing edge. Some, like your drum and my own Majestics, have a knockoff Gretsch-esque silver sealer that's basically just gray spray paint. Super fun drums and they come in a million different really cool wraps.

[@richardlannon3855]

Good job man, you can make good stuff out of any sort of crapshoot

[@martinmcdonald9575]

Thanks dude was looking for something for my tension rods and just ordered up the grease you used. so you were right there is alot of great information in your vids keep up the great work thanks again mate 😀

[@youts1000]

We always learn something with you man! Thank you by the way! ❤️

[@mekken007]

You are amazing and I love your restauration videos!!!

[@ismaeljean6891]

I allways learned sometime new with you brother thanks

[@JCarrillocLX]

Would you recommend using a polishing wheel to bring out extra brightness or will it get ride of the chrome? I'm currently restoring my first kit and your video helped me a lot.

[@psichatog14]

amazing vídeo David! like always! wich song are you listen when you are repairing the mufle with the hihat felt? (5:55)

[@jakovhorvatic7512]

maybe you could make a cymbal out of a frying pan? That would be awsome. I saw this grill pan, solid one piece. Keep it up!

[@noahroberts7600]

Drum sounds really good actually

[@morgunstyles7253]

I like these vids. Please keep making them

[@footnotedrummer]

I'm in the process of investigating the replacement of my tension rod swivel nuts as well, and I've noticed that the swivel nuts that these old kits came with, have a spring retention collar on them. The ones that you replaced yours with don't. I've noticed this as well, and before I pull the trigger... I wanted to know if you've had any issue with the spring coming off during a head change? If not yet... I'm guessing that you will eventually???

[@emppuw8]

love your videos duude, you're a big inspiration cheers

[@projectbaum]

I've had an idea for some time now to make a snare drum out of stone. I likely don't have the skill or resources necessary to pull it off, but I thought that you might be interested in tackling such a project.

[@mrski4945]

Hey, so between 5:30 and 5:48... whats the tune you're listening to in the back ground??

[@Egang03]

Wow I remember when you only 20k subs now your almost at a 100 keep up the good work man

[@ohthefuture7618]

Thanks for finishing vid, man.

[@DrummingChronicles]

Come on.....neither store had the right tension rods?! Classic...great video man!

[@sethdavis459]

I love how there's those ankle bells in the bowl, still unmade. Great vid as usual

[@hungry057unit]

it would be awesome if you could do a video on a Yamaha 'Hip Gig', I've wanted one for years and I want to see your opinion on it

[@lwlakksjd]

great one david

[@mineguitarerer]

I have an idea... Paper mâché a head and use it on a snare?

[@NIGHTWHEEL...]

s0nny1nth3r4in000 go on sonny ;)

[@mineguitarerer]

James :) #legend

[@kennyabsalonson4829]

have any tips on repairing a big gouge/dent in the resonant side bearing edge on a floor tom? not sure if I should use bondo or wood filler or epoxy? I was bummed to finally pull my kit out of my parent's basement after almost 10 years in storage and find a 1 inch gouge like it got dropped. :-(

[@robertnelson2719]

Regarding the whale blowhole on the side of the Tom. I had a similar problem with an eBay Tom. I epoxied a wooden dowel in the hole then drilled out the hole size I needed. Works just fine.

[@connormcglone5862]

Video suggestion- Can you show us how to take stain off a shell and then apply a different stain?

[@1MARAMAR]

you can also use 0000 steel wool! and a little bit of soapy water! keep the steel wool wet! 2:23

[@grinja73]

Were you happy with the bearing edge? I have some old toms from my first kit and I'm looking to maybe sand them back a bit to reduce the chipping gaps. Oh btw, cool fusiony tunes you're playing around 5 mins, can I ask what that is?

[@Danivg14]

Hey David! Please HELP! I was cleaning an old tom and I was taking out the screws of the toms and one screw is f* up and I can't take it off with a screw driver, it just dance but don't get out! How can I take it off so I be able to put a new screw? Thanks David! I AM A BIG BIG FAN OF YOUR VIDEOS!

[@RoeShamBoe]

can you do a video on how to make ball/socket type tom mounts not slip? i have a tama tom mount that constantly slips with anything larger than an 8" tom

[@jorymil]

Wondering if this was one of those older MIJ drums. Tension rods/nuts on them were oddball: they were almost M5, but with a coarser thread pitch (0.9) than regular M5 bolts. So you pretty much have to steal the parts off another drum, fabricate your own, or do the smart thing like David did and swap out both the nuts and the rods. Also wouldn't surprise me if the Groove Percussion nuts/rods were M6, rather than the #12-24 (7/32" in, or "M 5.8" in Pearl-speak) that David bought here and most drums come with. M6 is slightly larger in diameter than #12-24. In some ways, M6 would make life easier: M6 gets used everywhere: cars, bicycles, motorcycles, electronics, etc., so hardware stores carry them, and you can get them with any sort of head style you want: slotted, Phillips, Allen Key, hex wrench, etc. #12-24 machine screws are the white whales of the fastener world--drums seem to be the only thing that use them, and hardware stores rarely stock them. You have to go to either a drum store or to the hardware gods--mcmaster.com/ --to get them. What's weird about drums is that the screws holding the lugs to the shell are often themselves #12-24, not just the tension rods. So you can't even get _those_ from a hardware store, even though they look like regular Phillips screws :-( On the plus side, it does mean that in a pinch, you can take a Dremel to a tension rod and use that to replace a missing lug screw. Advice for those refurbishing old drums: keep a screw gauge and a few different sizes of nuts and machine screws (6-32, 8-32, 10-24, 10-32, 12-24, M4, M5, M6) floating around--it'll save you a trip to the hardware store or to Guitar Center/Sam Ash. Also be prepared for the guys at Guitar Center to look at you like you have two heads if you start talking thread pitch and diameter with them :-) (For some reason, I find all of this stuff fascinating :-) )

[@ajgdrums24]

What are you listening to at 5:30??? That track sounds hot

[@andrewkropp2748]

Hey Dave to 100,000

[@iQuincyboy]

Out of curiosity, have you tried cutting threads in this messed-up tension nut? Also, you need to try some new mounts on this tom (Kinda like the Atlas mount), that would be great! Cheers, mate.

[@rdavidr]

its possible, just have to get the right sized tap

[@redlenseglasses4111]

Wait....that shopping center looks familiar, is that out in Richmond VA?

[@mjuarez781]

You should make a video on restoring the clear on the drum!!

[@john._.haring]

PLEEAASEE make a video on drum tuning...i know there are alot of em out there but yours would actually be helpful

[@rodrigomartinez600]

muy buenos videos david!

[@yungholsch343]

have you ever tried turning an old floor tom or kick into a table? my dad has been talking about doing it to one of my old drums for a while and i was just curious. i think it would be a cool project.

[@rdavidr]

check out tim sway on yt, hes done some stuff like that with drums

[@systemfirez]

top stuff, would be cool to see a wrap restoration in more detail!

[@gzusrlz10]

I’ve been watching your channel for a few years now. I’m not a drummer, but my 10 yr old son is. I just bought a kit to fix up for him. It has a crack in the wrap. Is there a way to repair the crack, or do I have to replace it?

[@BADD400]

Hey Dave try using rung oil on inside of this drum and see if it changes the sound

[@Assimilator702]

BADD400 CB700 Coating the inside of shell to change the sound is pointless.

[@brandonweddell2588]

No joke today I was looking for these exact lugs for a kit I'm fixing. Slingerland lugs... hit me up Dave if you're trying to unload them. 😊😊

[@lemo_manda6076]

I Love your videos !

[@csakpityesz]

It's like my old "Star" drums..... :)

[@victorhvizzuett]

Hi mate, I was wondering if there´s a way to fix the finish ply of my kick drum, I don´t want to change it as it´s still fine but a little wrinkled. Thanks a lot!!

[@joerico9461]

Cool video, you always have excellent information well most of the time.😁 do what you do🤘

[@Mark-lm1oq]

Do you sell any of the drums you acquire and fix? Where would I find those-I am just getting back to drumming after 30+ years of working a real job. Great videos, thank you!

[@rdavidr]

i list stuff on my reverb page sometimes. but you can message me on there if youre looking for something. Thanks for tuning in! reverb.com/shop/rdavidr

[@TheStobb50]

Rust in chrome can be repaired using foil or aluminium The sort you would wrap up your turkey to cook

[@eddgutierrez5811]

Find old lugs and see if the tension rod fit then remove the tension nut and put in the lugs that u want to use I did that I wanted a single timbale but was to expensive so I took an old .metal snare and put single sided lugs on it but didn't have the tension rods for them so I took the tension nut from the original double sided lugs and used them in the single sided lugs now people just ask so where did you fined/and when did CB percussions make timbales

[@danieladamczyk08]

Damn $15 ain't bad. There's an antique mall/flea market by me that has a 3 floor toms, a super beat up snare, kick drum, and two toms (one is a toy) but the majority of them are $25 except the kick is 40. And these drums are missing all sorts of hardware like lugs, reso rims, legs, etc.

[@remurdereht]

i used to have just the bass drum to a majestic kit. i traded it to a friend who sold it to a local music store for 20 bucks. pretty sure the music store still has it for sale for $100. about 5 years later.

[@grantboyer9773]

if you ever plan on visiting dallas, come to the dallas sam ash and show me a few things.

[@glennhorvath879]

Speaking of toms.. I bought the new Ludwig break beats drumset...smaller sized drumset. They sound really great ,BUT The bass drum is just too small- 16" and it's elevated. How can I turn this bass drum into a 16" floor tom? Should I hang it off a cymbal stand or screw in 3 legs for a stand tom? I can live with the funky rims... thanx

[@glennhorvath879]

ps, I bought a 20" normal bass drum

[@Assimilator702]

Glenn Horvath Get a 16" rims style mount. No need to drill if it's not necessary.

[@glennhorvath879]

sorry, not sure what that means...

[@Assimilator702]

Rims are a very common tom mounting system that uses a round strip of metal with 4 or more eylets that secure with the tuning rods. Look at some Gretch drums or Google RIMS mounting system. They first appeared in the late 80's. All mounting systems are based off or at least inspired by RIMS.

[@glennhorvath879]

as I said it's a bass drum so I hope the fittings would work..they're set back a bit more. Thanx for the help

[@jonathanziegler5695]

Song at 5:35ish? Great video btw

[@mariorossipuzza]

not sure, but sounds like billy cobham.

[@jesushimself00]

chick corea i believe

[@jeffwklein]

did we ever figure this out?? sounds like an awesome track @rdavidr can you fill us in?

[@MichaelYoungDrums]

I lol'd at the tension nut thing. XD

[@MIGeoMous]

you make awesome videos man!!

[@TheJordanRoubique]

Can you show us hot to clean up the inside of old drums? I've got some dirty ones. Looks like the inside of this one but a little worse.

[@swisstripz]

hay man whats that tune playing at 5:30. ?? thanks

[@ishmaelglockenspiel704]

You should try a piccolo snare

[@kimberlycatlin5287]

Can you do another drum hacks vid

[@grandolddrummer]

TIL: Check your nuts for threads. Tangentially related, I was building a mobile clamp rack and one of the decking screws I was using to put it together didn't have any threads either. That was a much easier problem to fix though. But hey, free T-shirt.

[@angantyr86]

i have various toms pretty beat up on the sides, what can i do?, also: is there any science on cutting a cymbal?, i'm about to do it but i was wondering too. Great videos, tho.

[@DrumUp]

im not sure how you could fix the wrap on the toms if thats whats beaten up but i do have a video on my channel showing how you can re wrap them really cheep hope it helps

[@angantyr86]

cool, i'll look into it... what about the cymbals?, is there any trick about cuttin them?

[@DrumUp]

i haven't really played around with cymbals really so I'm not gunna be the best person to ask sorry about that time sure having a digg around youtube or some forums you will get the info you want and thank you

[@angantyr86]

Drum Up it's ok, thanks anyways

[@charliepreidis3004]

Check out Lance Campeua's videos. He refinishes and cuts down cymbals all the time. Dude is awesome.

[@MyTriplehfan]

Does the Lithium Grease help keep the tension lugs not detune as often?

[@godzillazf18]

vinger works well for rust and grime too

[@a.r6923]

Your beard is sick man

[@uziemiacz007]

whats the band in 5:38? please tell me

[@Thijnodude]

a drum dealer I know says he just throws all of the metal hardwarein the dishwasher, is there anything wrong with that? As long as you instantly dry em off there shouldn't be anything wrong right?

[@LeviWhitworth]

Hey, Dave. What is White Lithium Grease, what does White Lithium Grease do, and should I be using White Lithium Grease on my lugs?

[@ethanhersch8654]

Can you do a tour of your yamaha drum set?

[@epilepsiaalienigena5462]

Hey there. Greetings from Portugal. I have some sugestions that you might find nice to make a vídeo about. The first one is "Can you make your own drumsticks?" i guess that one woul be really nice . The second one could be "Cheap solutions for a slipping bass drum." You could do an homemade "kikckstrap"or similar. Hope you like my ideias. Keep up the awseome work. really love your channel

[@lewisbates919]

Nice Video Dude

[@tylerloersch6768]

Yo Dave, what's the song playing at 2:55?

[@Ghostfailure33object27]

I'm trying to refinish my drums. looking for some advice. I want to paint and clear coat them, but I want to do it right. can anyone please give a step by step guide. how many coats of paint? what clear coat to use, how many coats, and when do I sand? I can find basic info for doing on this on just wood, but I want some tips specific to drums. I would appreciate any information.

[@jbljames654]

u make very good videos