The Founder of DW Drums told me to do THIS - Testing 5 Drum Hacks

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Testing 5 more drum hacks!
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Music used (background & playalongs):
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Free of Drumeo trial:
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Dom Lombardi Floor Tom Leg Trick:
• Floor Tom Trick, Pt. 1
Simon Phillips Paint Can Bass Drum Trick:
• Simon Phillips, studio...
• The Simon Phillips Ses...
Sounds Like A Drum Hoop Protector/Grip:
• Simple, Inexpensive Dr...
Drumeo/me Felt Pad on Beater:
• 25 Drum Hacks Anyone C...
Driven to Drum Heat Gun Dent Removal:
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GEAR:
Stuff -
Empty Paint Can: (theyre cheaper at hardware stores)
amzn.to/3btVdpm
Furniture Felt Pads: (not the ones I used, but these look softer. Also, this is probably the best deal incase have like 50 beaters lol)
amzn.to/3OYQNVh
3m Safety Walk Roll:
amzn.to/3vCobKm
Heat Gun:
amzn.to/3QkLj8r
Magic Erasers:
amzn.to/3vAdGaM
Microphones/Headphones -
Earthworks ICON Pro:
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Pair of Slate ML-1 (as overheads):
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Austrian Audio CC8 (as rooms):
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Earthworks DM20 (toms):
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Earthworks SR20LS (snare top):
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Lewitt DTP 640 REX Bass Drum Mic
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Shure SM57 (snare bottom):
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Austrian Audio Hi-X60 Headphones:
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Drums / Cymbals-
DW Collectors Maple:
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Sabian 22" HHX Anthology Low Bell Ride:
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Sabian AAX 18" Thin Crash:
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Hardware / Sticks -
Tama Road Pro/ Iron Cobra Hardware:
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Roc n’ Soc Drum Throne:
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Vic Firth Freestyle 5b Drum Sticks:
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Vic Firth VKB5 Beater:
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Lowboy Lightweight wood beater:
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Thats right, I'm Testing 5 More Drum Hacks! Sometimes they blow your mind and sometimes they kinda, sorta, barely work. Either way, these are some that I've been wanting to try out for awhile now. First is something DW told me to do to my drum set. Dom Lombardi, founder of DW Drums, shows us that flipping over your floor tom legs reduces the sustain of the drum. Kinda funny because DW's whole thing is about the tone/sustain of their shells. Anyways... another classic trick made famous by Simon Phillips is sticking a paint can in your kick drum to tighten up the sound. There was a very subtle difference with it in vs out, but it does tighten up the sound! Sounds Like A Drum is a great channel on KZbin that talks about all the nerdy stuff that drummers think about. They did an episode on some cheap and easy drum hacks and one that stuck with me was about a product used for making bass drum hoop protectors. Out of all the stuff I've tried for hoop protectors there solution is by far the easiest/cheapest/most effective way to add one to your drum! Man, I didn't realize how much bass drum stuff was in this episode. Oh well, on my visit to Drumeo we filmed a video about 25 drum hacks and one thing I talked about was adding a felt pad to a wooden beater to change its sound. I would suggest finding the softest one you can find since the one I used didn't make the craziest difference. Use the link at the top of the description and sign up for a free month of Drumeo and check out my series called "DIY Drum Experiments." I show that hack there and it worked better for whatever reason. Who cares tho, I doubt you made it this far reading lol. Last on the list is an age old hack about reviving a dented up drum head with a heat gun. Something I talked about in my first testing 5 drum hacks video. Oh the good ole days...
DW Told Me To Do This To My Drum Set - Testing 5 More Drum Hacks

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@CalderwoodPercussion
@CalderwoodPercussion Жыл бұрын
Dude, you nailed it! Drummers are always talking about tom resonance, and how they want their toms to sing, and then immediately drop on moon gels, snare weights, gaff tape, whatever! We don’t make drum sets anymore, but when we did, I was always trying to convince drummers to let me mount a bracket on the shell when they gave me reference recordings of toms with super fast decay. I was like, “we can build you drums that just sound like that naturally, and you won’t have to add a bunch of muffling that can also cause other problems.” It was a hard sell, for sure. And man, don’t get me started on metal drummers who want super deep kick drums, and then add triggers. I’m like, dude, let me make you a 24” kick drum that is 8” or 10” deep, and I can make it sound exactly like what you want, and you won’t need triggers or any other electronics! Also, an extremely hard sell. *sigh* people listen with their eyes, man. Anyway, dope video as always dude, thanks for making them!
@Jaburu
@Jaburu Жыл бұрын
musicians are kind of supersticious. they just copy each other. the only way you could sell products like that is to convince (I mean really) a famous drummer to (really) use them and make a contract with them.
@Andrew-wb2zq
@Andrew-wb2zq Жыл бұрын
I think people want a “round” tone, not necessarily a dead tone. The gels are a means to that end
@DannyKavadlo
@DannyKavadlo 6 ай бұрын
I find 14" depth is perfect for kick any size. When they're 16" or more deep, the air just moves around to much... no punch!
@worldssickestmedia2713
@worldssickestmedia2713 2 жыл бұрын
Not a drummer. But am a drum tech. The heat gun trick usually only works one time. If you do it a second time your stick is going through the head once you start playing them. Because the heat cycles make the material brittle.
@Theta313
@Theta313 Жыл бұрын
That little heatgun trick just saved me a fortune in drum heads! Thank you sir. This video was time well spent from a financial standpoint!
@Officialshayne
@Officialshayne 2 жыл бұрын
Any OGs remember the floor tom drum stick leg hack?
@GerYD2
@GerYD2 2 жыл бұрын
I do
@polyduckwanaland
@polyduckwanaland 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@thiccorito8792
@thiccorito8792 2 жыл бұрын
absofruitley
@josh_may_drums
@josh_may_drums 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@ORDER4STU
@ORDER4STU 2 жыл бұрын
of course
@nairbas392
@nairbas392 2 жыл бұрын
I think you may have mentioned this at some point but one of my favourite hacks is this. For a protection bass hoop use the slip that you get with your pair of new drumsticks and put it on the bottom of the hoop and get your pedal over it.
@joshuabolyard7769
@joshuabolyard7769 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@neilschlemeel5751
@neilschlemeel5751 2 жыл бұрын
Been doing that all my life although usually with cardboard
@rockinlawnman359
@rockinlawnman359 2 жыл бұрын
That's one of the hacks from the very first hacks video I think... the one where he was just going through the cool stuff that he does to make life easier
@carperfjord8748
@carperfjord8748 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockinlawnman359 yeah i remember this one FROM david!
@porcelainthunder2213
@porcelainthunder2213 2 жыл бұрын
Hoop protector = cut up bicycle tire tube. It wont damage your hoop (no adhesive), and can wrap around the hoop yo protect the edges and underside.
@besticouldget
@besticouldget 2 жыл бұрын
Damn just commented and see this :P
@porcelainthunder2213
@porcelainthunder2213 2 жыл бұрын
@@besticouldget great minds think alike...
@musicalala
@musicalala Жыл бұрын
If no adhesive is used ,do you have to reposition the tube every time you move your kick for a gig? It comes off when you remove your pedal correct?
@Chiroman527
@Chiroman527 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a simply a Recreational Drummer at 70 yo, whom plays about 1 hour a day for Pleasure. Since resurrecting playing drums after 50 years (1969), I've been watching many UT videos about Drumming and Drum Tuning etc. I've learned a lot od "stuff" that i had no clue about in 1969: various drum heads, drum tuning, different sticks, etc. All affecting the sound. Currently playing on a PDP Concept Maple Kit with 3 Rack Toms, 2 Floor Toms, 2 accessory snares (1 Popcorn and 1 Piccolo snare), all with different heads. On the Toms I use Evans G2 coated on the 8" rack Tom, Evans EC2s Clear on the 10 & 12 " toms, and Evans G2s Coated on the 14 & 16 " Floor toms. HD Dry on the 14X 6.5 DW Design series Snare, Remo stock head on the Mapex piccolo snare and a Remo with sound control center ring on the PDP Popcorn snare. On the ack Toms and the floor Toms I found that using a Evans E-Ring placed on the batter heads gets me to that nice Doooo, Dooooo sound that Jared describes in his Drumeo video. And I employ this weird thing. I use a cheap Griffin Piccolo Snare 13 X 3.5 with a HD Dry batter head and set it atop of the DW Design Series snare on the snare stand... I know , WTF you may ask? It works though.. nice Crack on the snare, and when i feel like a change, I adjust the snare stand and play the Design Series 14 X 6.5 snare. The Kick Drum (or Bass drum), I have Aquarian II reso head and an Aquarian Batter heas with a Muffling Ring. The biggest challenge is the "ringing" overtone form the Floor Toms. Sounds Like a Drum suggests placing Cotton Balls inside the drum. Never tried that yet. Happy Drumming Folks. My days are geting numbered bc arthritis is staring to encroach into my hands and fingers - the left hand particularly bad.
@jaycimbak7781
@jaycimbak7781 2 жыл бұрын
glad to see you are at it!!!
@mydixiewrecked315
@mydixiewrecked315 2 жыл бұрын
my grandfather refers to arthritis as his ol'pal arthur-i said "arthur?" he looked at myself & smiled and eluded to "ritis." I smirked and told him "well played,good sir. Well-played."😁
@chrismallios1621
@chrismallios1621 2 жыл бұрын
@Aldo M. I hear you I get it in the hands and feet. Stretch the wrist gently and slowly before and after practice. The colder it is the easier amount of stretching. Meaning take a little more warm up time to stretch. Also salads, Kale, carrots, collard greens and squash will provide better connective tissue for you. Limit computer time and non argonomic activities. Better days ahead.
@rdavidr
@rdavidr 2 жыл бұрын
Testing out 5 more drum hacks! Most of these are very subtle, but do make a slight difference. Try em out for yourself! What are some other hacks you want to see tested? 🤔
@CalebCarterFilm
@CalebCarterFilm 2 жыл бұрын
make a snare with 70 air vents!!!!!
@wesleydukesapp197
@wesleydukesapp197 2 жыл бұрын
I was getting ready to type and ask if you could recommend a way to repair old drum heads and then you did the heat gun trick. Serendipity.
@InYourDreams-Andia
@InYourDreams-Andia 2 жыл бұрын
Through shell mount vs suspension mount for toms, esp big toms, like a floor tom, for more sustain control?
@lucyferina
@lucyferina Жыл бұрын
Someone demoed to me the much louder hit with a lot less effort. He hit the snare full arm swing with a lot of force, then, he hit it again just using wrist motion, there was a significant difference in volume, the wrist hit was louder and more focused.
@samoliver9132
@samoliver9132 7 ай бұрын
Do e-drum hacks
@glengamble526
@glengamble526 2 жыл бұрын
For floor toms-I still stand by the old cotton ball trick: throw a small handful of cotton balls into the open tom, then put the batter head back on. The cotton balls will flop up when you hit the drum and land in the reso head, therefor cutting off the resonance to a controllable level.
@craigstrickland1572
@craigstrickland1572 2 жыл бұрын
This was very meta and also very informative. Although since you didn't wear a lab coat with the bass drum head protector grip tester, so until it is peer-reviewed we can't trust the results 100%
@johnsherman6585
@johnsherman6585 2 жыл бұрын
What does meta mean?
@craigstrickland1572
@craigstrickland1572 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnsherman6585 Meta is when something refers back to or is about itself
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc Жыл бұрын
He _is_ the peer review, since he's testing something someone else said.
@lukefreeman970
@lukefreeman970 2 жыл бұрын
So the paint can genuinely sounds like a good idea. I have an sq2 with the rocket mount. It’s medium birch and it isn’t super punchy, because birch kicks aren’t, but with that like 30 pound rocket mount it’s got some thud.
@lukecarodrums
@lukecarodrums 2 жыл бұрын
idk man birch is known for being punchy? what head are you using on your kick drum? 😁
@lukefreeman970
@lukefreeman970 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukecarodrums, the most legendary birch player, Steve gadd, often complained of the birch kick drums on recording custom drums. His “Steve gadd custom kit” was all birch toms and a maple bass. That’s why new Yamaha recording customs have weighted lugs. But anyhow I have a p3 on it
@ivanbajovic3476
@ivanbajovic3476 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukefreeman970 That's true. For me, only flow of the birch drum kits is the kick. Maple bass drums has better sound.
@Cmart50
@Cmart50 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using skateboard grip tape as a hoop protector, and on my pedalboards for years, works great.
@Isaac-xk3wm
@Isaac-xk3wm 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so crazy seeing how much better his quality has gotten over the five + years I’ve been watching
@insanedrummer89
@insanedrummer89 2 жыл бұрын
this man still rockin screen savors
@rdavidr
@rdavidr 2 жыл бұрын
cant be fryin up my $100 costco monitors lol
@jessegray8523
@jessegray8523 Жыл бұрын
The kit I currently have came with two suspended low toms. I converted the lower one with a leg kit but noticed it reduced the sustain quite a bit. After a little research, I ended up replacing the springs for the hoop and the stock rubber feet with the Pearl ones. After that, the resonance came back and was nearly identical to the suspended tom. Great channel. Keep up the good work!
@ANuisanceRockBand
@ANuisanceRockBand 2 жыл бұрын
The floor time connection to the floor can make a big difference (or not, depending on the drum). I had a 14" floor tom that did not resonate well on its feet, but sounded great when tipped up on two legs. I bought different feet with "floater" rubber bottoms, put those on the legs, and it was instantly way better. It "decoupled" the feet from the floor and for whatever reason on that particular drum made a huge difference.
@jameslanclos568
@jameslanclos568 Жыл бұрын
That's nuts about the heat gun renewing the heads. I never thought to do that, but it seems perfectly logical to do so. Thanks.
@AnistonWIG
@AnistonWIG 2 жыл бұрын
“That was a sick stick flip” 😂
@besticouldget
@besticouldget 2 жыл бұрын
Best BD hoop protector is some piece of old bike inner tire! (imo)
@marscounty
@marscounty 2 жыл бұрын
Great hacks! The weight in the bass drum makes sense. Yamaha added mass to the lugs on the new generation recording custom for the same reason.
@hepphepps8356
@hepphepps8356 2 жыл бұрын
A weight in the Bass drum Was standard fare in the studio in the old days. (The goddamn Beatles did it fcs;-))
@mohrdrums27
@mohrdrums27 2 жыл бұрын
I screamed when the Dollar Tree drummer came back 😂
@aasciutti
@aasciutti 8 ай бұрын
I always used the heating technique to remove the dents from my snare drum head. But I use the flame in the stove to do that. For me works really good.
@30isdead19
@30isdead19 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Don’t forget to try the wooden board under the floor tom trick too some time. I used that one last time I was in the studio. Neither me or my engineer had heard of it but the studio owner who happened to be hanging out while we worked on drum tones for the record suggested we try it out. Sure enough it actually changed the sound and we ended up going with it.
@thebang9669
@thebang9669 Жыл бұрын
I'm an OG from the 90's drumming on and off and the best thing I found using protection to connect the pedal to the bass drum is by cutting a bicycle tube into a 4' long piece of tubing and then cut the tubing on one side so it still folding, place it on your hoop like your creating a sandwich and instant rubber protection for your hoop.
@jakeloranger1419
@jakeloranger1419 2 жыл бұрын
That's a neat trick to give new life to pitted heads. I have to say, though, if your heads are getting pitted a lot, it would be a good idea to look at how you are hitting. I've seen where some drummers, in an effort to have rack toms lower, will set the toms at a severe angle. The problem is that the sticks wind up not hitting the heads at an optimum angle. The sticks at impact are nowhere near to being almost parallel to the heads. The beads of the stick end up digging into the heads. Another thing I see some drummers do is not letting the sticks come off the heads after impact. Dead sticking can be an interesting effect. Benny Grebb does it a lot. The difference is that he is doing it intentionally and he is not driving his sticks into the heads. What is really hard on drumheads is hitting with a firm grip and letting the beads of the sticks dig into the heads. I remember one drummer who had brought to an open jam a small auxiliary snare drum with a brand new head on it. Most of the drummers were playing it with good technique and it was fine. But one fellow, after he was done playing, left several deep pits in it. The owner was less than pleased. Finally, the other culprit I see to pitting heads is the "basher". He is the one who hits as hard as he can in an effort to be the loudest drummer in the room. Apart from destroying heads, he is also working against what he is trying to achieve. At some point, hitting harder only chokes the drum and actually kills it's potential loudness. It is far better to use stick velocity with a relaxed grip and let the stick rebound off the head. This way the drum can "speak" with its full voice. And the heads don't lose their tone after just two songs. While I'll admit I don't usually play very loud, as most of the venues I play tend to be on the small side, my heads can last a long time with rarely any pitting. And when I do need to play a greater volume I try to "pull" the sound out of my drums, something I was taught. I also use rimshots for my backbeats. It takes a lot less effort to achieve the same result. Plus, I'm in my sixties. I won't last very long if I'm bashing.
@mydixiewrecked315
@mydixiewrecked315 2 жыл бұрын
age isnt anything except for experience & life lessons learned. I like your train of thought, my friend.
@chrismallios1621
@chrismallios1621 2 жыл бұрын
@Jake Loranger I know exactly what your saying. Some of those bashers never learn the musical aspect of it. Especially the know it all types that really don't know diddley. They don't even know Boe Diddley. It really can wear on you after a while. Especially when they can't recognize good advice if it saved their life. Good comment though. U know yo proffession.
@jakeloranger1419
@jakeloranger1419 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismallios1621 Thanks. I've noticed that a lot of those bashers think the measure of a good drummer is how loud he can play. As in the loudest drummer is the best one. It's actually kind of funny to see three or four of these guys (they're usually guys) at an open mic jam. Each one hits louder than the previous one. lol
@lucyferina
@lucyferina Жыл бұрын
This needs to be in one Eloy Casagrande’s videos. Everyone there raves about him being the best drummer in the world because of how hard he hits, I believe it’s just idiotic to waste that much effort when I also learned early on that you can be much louder following the steps you mentioned. (Ducks for cover from all the Eloy fans).
@Redn87
@Redn87 Жыл бұрын
Right On!!! The drummer and I in our band Pig Splitter just put the floor tom on the top rack. Then got another floor tom. Super deep sound now.
@adamcoe
@adamcoe 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely like the floor tom trick in terms of taming it in OH mics. Chances are in most cases you're gonna gate the direct mic, so the tail isn't really of any concern as it's being cut off anyway, but having a little quicker decay so it doesn't linger in the room can be helpful if you're recording something where the OH and room mics are prevalent. I'm sure the thickness of the shells and of course the heads and tuning also play a big role but all other things being equal that's kind of a neat hack. I'd be interested to hear the difference between say, having on a carpet (as most do) vs if you put the floor tom directly on a hard surface.
@al.ln20
@al.ln20 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that couple of seconds of the "Dollar Store Drummer" really gave a trip down memory lane of your old videos with your own tracks as backgroud music :')
@mikebarker9187
@mikebarker9187 2 жыл бұрын
Tape a piece of cardboard to the rez head. Then the batter head. Then remove rez head. Then replace drum with cardboard box.
@jas_bataille
@jas_bataille 2 жыл бұрын
Bwahahaha
@SurefireNebula
@SurefireNebula 2 жыл бұрын
Duuuuuude love that kick tone with the paint can
@ozzku
@ozzku 2 жыл бұрын
When there’s a new rdavidr vid, it’s a good day.
@lordhammerwind
@lordhammerwind 2 жыл бұрын
c o r n y 🌽🌽🌽
@lucacrab
@lucacrab 2 жыл бұрын
true
@drummercpa72
@drummercpa72 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the floor tom flipped, the first thing I'm thinking is "dude... that could work for mounting a cowbell". Of course you'd have to remove the rubber foot, and it all depends on the size of the legs and the mount hole on the cowbell but... you never know. It just might work in a pinch...
@coldanimal5107
@coldanimal5107 2 жыл бұрын
If you remove the rubber foot, there's no need to flip the leg. The rubber feet are what increases the sustain in the first place.
@neilschlemeel5751
@neilschlemeel5751 2 жыл бұрын
Popped in TOTO live in Amsterdam...looking for kickdrum paint cans now...yep there in those giant magnificent maple kicks
@Intrinsic.Recording
@Intrinsic.Recording 2 жыл бұрын
Paint can deadens shell vibration via dampening it with mass. All it does. We've experimented with other similar things, a light, fuzzy felt bag w/ sand on top of bass drum etc. Original intention was to prevent sympathetic Tom Tom ring when bass drum was hit, but it also tightened up the BD sound. Good for hard rock, metal. Busy music. Thanks for another cool video.
@thomaskleinhans2384
@thomaskleinhans2384 2 жыл бұрын
A piece of an old leather belt is also a quite nice and really stable hoop protector!
@colinferguson2134
@colinferguson2134 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a Roger's bass drum pedal 40 odd years a clamp goes on the bass drum hoop, besides the odd grease and oil its never been any trouble fantastic
@TheTargetedScapegoat
@TheTargetedScapegoat 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a drum hack that I’ve never been able to use that’s called “buy a new one”, which for drums and all of their pieces and parts are not that dissimilar to guitarists and their pedalboards, of which I have experience with both.
@ryangorman3061
@ryangorman3061 2 жыл бұрын
You can also use a mesh head on the reso side of the kick if you want to keep tension on the shell but not have something resonating.
@nolongerdrumz
@nolongerdrumz Жыл бұрын
That last one is crazy! Never would have thought!
@andrewpensinger9891
@andrewpensinger9891 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Stayed for the tips. Smiled when I saw my old Blue Sparkle Pioneer being used in a video from RdavidR.
@rdavidr
@rdavidr 2 жыл бұрын
no joke, you texted me that vistalite pic right as I was talking about the heat gun lol
@andrewpensinger9891
@andrewpensinger9891 2 жыл бұрын
@@rdavidr ... awesome ... I'm loving that kit. gigging tonight. Might take it out again.
@malachi_fgc4659
@malachi_fgc4659 2 жыл бұрын
It's now the Dollar twenty-five tree drummer lmao
@mrkremps1898
@mrkremps1898 2 жыл бұрын
I used to throw my dented-up heads in the oven for a few minutes to achieve the same effect as the heat gun. It worked pretty well for a young broke drummer.
@chrisfraser5088
@chrisfraser5088 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Dave! I’ve actually used the paint can idea in the studio before and absolutely love it. p.s….plz make a giant moon gel video 😁
@InYourDreams-Andia
@InYourDreams-Andia 2 жыл бұрын
2nd that!
@cmron2648
@cmron2648 2 жыл бұрын
“Is your WOOD too hard just soften it up a bit” -rdavidr 😂
@jpizzleforizzle
@jpizzleforizzle 2 жыл бұрын
A dumbbell on a pillow or peice of bed foam works instead of a paint can. Basically you're adding mass to the shell, reducing shell vibration and getting more head sound.
@Alberto-mc6yk
@Alberto-mc6yk Жыл бұрын
I never put anything in my bass drum. It takes longer to tune well, but once you get it matched out to the rest of the set, it sounds so much better. Emad heads help
@Chiroman527
@Chiroman527 Жыл бұрын
One "Hack" I stumbled upon is getting Evans G-Rings for my Toms (except the 8 " rack Tom). The E-Rings tend to yield Just the right amount of Muffling the overtones. I also found that with my PDP Concept Maple Kit with 6 drums I use different heads on certain drums: EC2s Clear on the 8" Tom, G2 coated on the 10 " Tom, a Red Hydraulic on the 12' Rack Tom (which is the most difficult drum for me to tune to my satisfaction; G2s coated on the 2 Floor Toms (14 & 16 "). No Muffling or laundry in my Bass Drum - Aquarian Heads with Muffle ring - ported on the Reso side. HD Dry Snare heads on the PDP 14 X 5.5 Snare (not a great snare by any means), and on my DW Design Series Brass over Nickel 14 X 6.5 Snare (which I purchased Used in excellent shape from Reverb. And as crazy as it sounds, I have a cheapo Griffin Piccolo 13 X 3.5 which sounds great with a nice snap, but not too snappy with a HD Dry batter head & standard reso clear head and Snare wires. I'm only a recreational drummer at 71 YO, who plays for enjoyment (after a 50 Yera Hiatus [1969], about an hour a day to My Music. Since returning to play Drums, watching and learning so much on Line at Various sites / Channels, I had no idea 50 years ago about different drum heads, and Drum Tuning.
@chrismallios1621
@chrismallios1621 Жыл бұрын
I tried the hole on rest head vs no hole. In comparison, the rest with the hole sounded like gluteus Maximus the rest head without sounded awesome. this was with a small - medium size pillow that was generally at least 2-3 times heavier in weight to your average pillow. The exact placement was inside just barely touching the batter. It just needs to make enough contact to where it does not make a fluttering noise. if it does flutter then push it a little more into the batter until flutter stops. This may vary from drum to drum. on a different kick, it actually required contact with the rest head a little more and not touching the batter at all.
@MrJasonodonnell
@MrJasonodonnell 2 жыл бұрын
Like the paint can I used to use two heavy ankle workout weights lying down on a thin blanket. way easier to move about and reposition.
@CyberneticHusky
@CyberneticHusky 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I could go for a giant Moongel video
@lagartogrande1908
@lagartogrande1908 Жыл бұрын
Dents in toms. Gently hover them over a gas stove on low. You can also use a bic lighter for smaller dents. Move around the dent in a circular motion. Keep moving.
@waynefaucheaux8003
@waynefaucheaux8003 2 жыл бұрын
Wooden bass drum beater, cover w 3 or 4 baby socks, keep twisting excess tightly down shaft, add two zip ties, then cut off excess.All the attack but removes the "crackle" edge of the tone!
@marcdeleon757
@marcdeleon757 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried packing peanuts or cotton balls in your toms? I remember in the late 70s I saw that a few times. The cotton don’t make any noise when bouncing around in the toms. It’s just done to fatten the sound of the rezo head.
@aboutthemetal8783
@aboutthemetal8783 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing for nearly 35 years , I've never used moon gel or tape , I learned early on to spend time tuning both heads on the drum .
@perpetualgrimace
@perpetualgrimace 2 жыл бұрын
That heat gun trick is nuts!
@pulsar-_-4504
@pulsar-_-4504 2 жыл бұрын
Teach us how to hack into the mainframe of the drums next David!
@rdavidr
@rdavidr 2 жыл бұрын
if I only I knew...
@hyamsosnow3973
@hyamsosnow3973 Жыл бұрын
(Sorry I'm so late to this party but I just saw this video for the first time.) The paint can has nothing to do with reflecting sound waves. It works because it adds lots of mass to the bass drum's shell, which lowers the drum's resonant frequency, increasing its low-end. If you somehow suspended the can inside of the bass drum without it contacting the drum shell it wouldn't do diddly to the sound. The floor tom leg trick is an old one that came from the 1950s, when FT legs were originally straight. The straight legs choked the drum (unlike the old 1930s-era floor-tom cradles they replaced). Drummers were stuck with this for a few years until someone figured out that adding the angle at the bottom of the legs decoupled them from the floor and increased their resonance.
@galaxy68
@galaxy68 2 жыл бұрын
I cut a piece of wall base molding & attach with shoe goo. Works great & can be removed. The glue pulls up.
@1thess523
@1thess523 Жыл бұрын
I turned my Lowboy wood faced beater into a Leather face beater in the same fashion. My son does leather work and had some extra so bingo!
@Nato61
@Nato61 Жыл бұрын
Always liked those classic finishes on the drums. Good choice Dave! Don Lombardi is a class act.
@daveg7948
@daveg7948 2 жыл бұрын
I've been dealing with a pretty big career change over the last few months so I haven't been watching much youtube. But I've gotta say, this is one of the channels I've missed the most. Always entertaining and I always walk away with something new to try out. Thanks for the rad content, dude!
@Mari000
@Mari000 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@jeffreyperry8782
@jeffreyperry8782 2 жыл бұрын
Old school. Hoop protector - helps stop tom rash. Use as a beater patch. Mole skin patch sold in you foot care dept at Walmart. Sticky flexible durable. 3 sheets $3.50. Wrap around bass drum hoop. Wrap around snare drum hoop place where your beater hits 😀
@lachlanharris8753
@lachlanharris8753 Жыл бұрын
The last drum hack with the heat gun is genius, I want to try it on the kit at school as the heads are super dented and sound horrible, whether the music teacher allows me to is the question lol. 👍
@cristaples
@cristaples Жыл бұрын
I've used a stick slip as a hoop protector for 30 years plus, got 6kg of folded lead sheet bolted into the bottom of my kick, makes a nice bottom end and it's noticeable.
@cakeload3488
@cakeload3488 Жыл бұрын
You get the most vibrant warm tones from drums using your mic setup and mixing panel. I just watched another - unnamed drum guru vlogger and drum store clips. They were not great advertisements for their channels and drum kits. Do people know why they used to put lights inside bass drums around the early 20's. - To reduce humidity generated by the dance room and stop the contraction expansion - check it anyway. It's the story behind weather head skins.
@dwightlewis3876
@dwightlewis3876 Жыл бұрын
I stumbled onto this reality by mistake. Bought a Gretsch Catalina, and the floors had these solid little "plastic feet". Sounded like a box when sitting on the floor, but if raised from the floor they sang very long. I bought some of the Pearl quality feet that they use on their Master's kits....Nailed it...."super-sustainability"😃
@JamesAmenta
@JamesAmenta 2 жыл бұрын
I like Automotive Gasket material for hoop protection. This works great without any adhesive.
@ivanbajovic3476
@ivanbajovic3476 2 жыл бұрын
Paint/send can effect is noticed mostly in thin shells as Tama Starclassic. Thick vintage bass drum shells don't need can. They have weight already.
@CD-gk9ix
@CD-gk9ix 2 жыл бұрын
Thick vintage shells? Vintage shells were thin .. they’ve only become thicker over the years
@jonhattanrai
@jonhattanrai 2 жыл бұрын
The can trick works because of adding weight to the drum. The vibration of the shell itself changes because of the weight. It also works with sandbags or other heavy things.
@jakekeys88music
@jakekeys88music 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing that heat gun on the drum head makes me think about bassists who boil their strings.
@reeeeeee3966
@reeeeeee3966 2 жыл бұрын
A very easy way to dent Tom heads is with corpmaster sticks, I learned that the hard way
@drumdad1242
@drumdad1242 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful kit.
@joshbimthedoctor
@joshbimthedoctor 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought hoop protector from amazon or Sweetwater or someplace, works great!
@mydixiewrecked315
@mydixiewrecked315 2 жыл бұрын
I usually utilize a bicycle inner tube slit down the center of the tube you can drape it over the bearing edge. Works great for myself.
@drewbocop
@drewbocop 2 жыл бұрын
Mic sounds great. I love those Earthworks, beauty and made in America.
@ffrjegs08
@ffrjegs08 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a vid by Sounds Like a Drum where they explain the paint van thing but with a sandbag. Essentially, all that weight is stifling the resonance of the shell so that just the heads are bouncing the energy around, aside from creating some diffusion from breaking up the air reflection points in the shell
@Lemon_Drums_USA
@Lemon_Drums_USA 2 жыл бұрын
What’s interesting about that is, it’s also the philosophy that Sonor used on their older thicker shelled drums. Tama too.
@aPAC689
@aPAC689 2 жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, rdavidr posted
@jubankta1627
@jubankta1627 2 жыл бұрын
I think the paint can with the sand in it is adding weight to the shell tension due to weight distribution maybe some of that tension of the weight on the shell is having a slight effect on the tension of the bass drum heads even changing the tone of the batter head ?
@1982studios
@1982studios 2 жыл бұрын
Following Jack Joseph Puigs recommendation, I use a book of matches to decouple the floor tom from the floor with good results.
@ChristopherSmithNYC
@ChristopherSmithNYC 2 жыл бұрын
A self-adhesive leather patch, fold onto itself for the hoop protector works well.
@myk0l4s
@myk0l4s Жыл бұрын
5:07 I would kill for that bass drum sound! Even before you started tweaking it.
@benjaminthomas8092
@benjaminthomas8092 Жыл бұрын
I like the sound of the kit and the cymbals
@carterleynes6380
@carterleynes6380 8 ай бұрын
Paint can with sound changes resonances of the drum shell. Sounds like higher frequencies removed.
@Bungletronics
@Bungletronics 2 жыл бұрын
Don Lombardi is a legend. I see him around town sometimes.
@penguin2223
@penguin2223 2 жыл бұрын
That heat gun trick I learned it when I was in a marching band budget was tight and it's hard and expensive to get drum heads where I was from, great hack but after once or twice the head was heated it's prone to cracking
@ajaxyang50
@ajaxyang50 2 жыл бұрын
Just wonder Hack 1: Does it have less resnonance If don't flip the legs and just remove the rubber feet? Leg-fliped may cause the change of the center of weight. Hack 2: How does it sound with the paint cover opened?
@wingchun-simplekungfu7584
@wingchun-simplekungfu7584 Жыл бұрын
Each drum has its own key. Whether you want to change the key with head tensioning or adding tape or muffling pads , to try and change the drums natural key is tough. I’ve two mounted toms. Same size. Same everything . One doesn’t have a bottom skin. But the best sound I can get from them both is when they are tuned to a key which is the same for both . I need to loosen or tighten heads to get them to different keys , but then one of them doesn’t offer good tone.
@alvaroruizruiz7538
@alvaroruizruiz7538 2 жыл бұрын
What I think the sand paint can does is muting the bass drum just by adding mass, the weight won't allow the drum to resonate that much, so it focus the attack and the low end
@drzoom3696
@drzoom3696 2 жыл бұрын
That heat gun hack was sick! Im takin that home for sure.
@carolynway850
@carolynway850 Жыл бұрын
Little pieces of black 3m foam tape work wonders. Wheels need balancing, as so do shells. A nice rug makes a huge difference. Shag is great for heavier drumming. Mic placement is key though.
@carolynway850
@carolynway850 Жыл бұрын
3m foam tape on the heads. If your stands and drum legs are not on absorbent material. That's what creates bad resonance. Lack of absorbing under your playing area will only make it worse. It'll vibrate every piece of hardware to an early death.
@carolynway850
@carolynway850 Жыл бұрын
The heat gun trick is great for on the road. Broke ass DIY works when it's go time.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 2 жыл бұрын
I use plastic bottles from shampoo or conditioner or even the large yogurt containers for a variety of things. Making hoop protectors is one thing that works great from plastic bottles. Cut a square of plastic. Fold it over to fit the hoop like a book cover. Add some light sand paper for some grip if you want that and clamp the pedal down. Works great and it’s free since everyone should have plastic containers laying around their house.
@georgealanlpsandcds9311
@georgealanlpsandcds9311 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the day when one of the manufacturers used straight legs for their floor toms - yeah!
@glengamble526
@glengamble526 2 жыл бұрын
Another hack at works, for using a snare stand in your first tom is this: sit the drum onto the metal of the arms, rather than the rubber claws. It allows the drum to resonate more. When you put a tom in a snare stand and tighten the basket, it tends to choke the drum. This method allows the drum to breathe more.
@juergenkulmermusic
@juergenkulmermusic 2 жыл бұрын
I am having two hanging toms liking ringing on one three leg stand standing. That´s ok for me. BUT which of the three feetgums must i remove to get a shorter sound only for the 16" tom?
@xyanide1986
@xyanide1986 Жыл бұрын
Wow that heat gun is a game changer. Also for some reason the 3M tape is like twice the price in Europe compared to the US, I'll just order from there.
@chaddio72
@chaddio72 Жыл бұрын
You can also stack folded blankets, etc underneath the floor tom to dampen. You don’t even have to move the drum (to dial it in while mic’d)… You’re welcome ☺️
@MaYstruction
@MaYstruction 2 жыл бұрын
The heat gun trick is still unbelievable for me
@soundlyadam
@soundlyadam 2 жыл бұрын
The reflection shot from in the bass drum was sick!
@markrs2000
@markrs2000 2 жыл бұрын
Hello just found your channel and have spent nearly all night watching. Great channel great information and very professional editing.
@DaPhunk73
@DaPhunk73 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! I have heard about the Simon paintcan hack for years, but your test showed a clear difference, I will now finally try it myself. The difference was much smaller on the wooden-to-felt beater test. I think there should be a much thicker layer of felt. Video suggestion: create your own diy very soft felt beater, like the vater vintage bomber? Or even fluffier?
@DaPhunk73
@DaPhunk73 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you allready did 😄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2a5nniZrsxloJo
@halobro27
@halobro27 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever made a video on your tuning for your toms? I love that floor Tom tone and would love to replicate it on my kit
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