I think John articulated himself well and made a lot of sense in the grand scheme....the argument was good and I agree, the first time Naruto seen death and all that other psychological warefare is good points
@tobiasthexiv5343 жыл бұрын
But let’s be real, asuma and the shikamaru scene was sadder to me
@Cules8323 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasthexiv534 it was sadder fr but the zabuza scene was more impactful to the show
@whatspackin2 жыл бұрын
@@Cules832 exactly, I think that was his argument, its like if an important political figure dies it's more impactful to society on a whole, but if someone you know die, its sadder to you. But it doesnt have an impact on the world like that diplomat
@road2hokage652 жыл бұрын
Yea honestly mark lost the argument simply because John smart enough to know it's opinion... The whole argument was stupid to me and a waste of time
@SinclairSan2 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasthexiv534 it wasnt sad at all
@BruhImSkill3 жыл бұрын
Mark a real one for standing up to the chat toward the end. The way he articulated how the "they only agree with you because you're the leader" narrative makes the others feel rather than making it about him was sick. It's rare to see friends outwardly show empathy for one another nowadays. W friend group.
@dreamshakejones48783 жыл бұрын
Literally a goat group of friends
@maskedlegend46602 жыл бұрын
Facs
@OhYallDontKnowMe2 жыл бұрын
Stop it. Mark know that shit was the truth and that shit hurt that's why he had his little tantrum about it. His friends can be a bunch of yes men at times just for the sake of not starting an argument with him. If you watch their content he doesn't like being wrong. Especially in those Back and Forth videos.
@cruztheunknwn36402 жыл бұрын
@@OhYallDontKnowMe 🤡
@KiiingTroy2 жыл бұрын
@@cruztheunknwn3640 you da clown this rs lol
@truly81773 жыл бұрын
I’m telling y’all when Zabuza caught that Kunai in the mouth while crying bouta run through the thugs without his arms was so tuff
@hylytreal73833 жыл бұрын
John is actually right. The Zabuza fight impact lesson carries into Boruto. The philosophy of the fight had more of an impact to the story and the main character.
@nathanielb4985 Жыл бұрын
Zabuza’s fight? Thought we were talking about his death?
@robertocosme34213 жыл бұрын
i ain’t gonna lie i agree with john, that episode definitely impacted the whole show for me and 16 episodes in told me “yo niggas is dying and getting clapped fr in this show”
@OMGxITZxPACMAN3 жыл бұрын
Is that a direct quote? Lol
@xxx_p0ggersepicgamer_xxx417 ай бұрын
but is it better than Shikamaru?
@TheRulersBack183 жыл бұрын
john was right, who actually cared about asuma? he basically got all of his backstory/character development immediately before his death. zabuza's death was way more impactful since it was the first death naruto experienced, the whole haku/zabuza bit, etc. idk if there are 5 moments sadder than the haku/zabuza thing, especially when naruto was just like...you really gonna act like you don't care that haku died? basically we got jiraiya's death, maybe when you find out that itachi was basically forced into killing his clan, when you find out rock lee might not be able to be a ninja anymore...gaara's sad-ass backstory, etc. they really tried to make you care about asuma when you had spent like 300 chapters not caring about him at all. if it had been guy getting killed and lee/neji/tenten crying about it, that would've been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more impactful than asuma dying imo
@oswaldooswaldo3492 жыл бұрын
@@nd7231 you make it sound like one piece isnt lazy either with the same flashback playing for 10 episodes straight
@SinclairSan2 жыл бұрын
literally no one cared about asuma xD
@SinclairSan2 жыл бұрын
@@nd7231 hold up, one piece has way trasher character development than naruto
@Andre-ws9sh2 жыл бұрын
@@nd7231 lmaoooo. “You must be a young kid in the states” is sum shit a lil kid will say 😭
@Drogas36532 жыл бұрын
Who tf cared about Zabuza.. he was a nobody who came out of nowhere 🤦🏽♂️ sasuke jumping in to take the needles for Naruto was sadder than Zabuza dying
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast3 жыл бұрын
Mark saying shikamaru never showed emotion up to that point is cap. He showed emotion when he was leader for the first time during the Sasuke retrieval and everybody on his squad got messed up.
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast2 жыл бұрын
@Wanna eat my potato?…I can only give you half when shikamru father left him in that room after they played shogi he didn't show revenge or anger, he showed extreme sorrow so I think you're wrong there.
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast2 жыл бұрын
@Wanna eat my potato?…I can only give you half I don't think he said "like that". He said never showed emotion from what I remember atleast.
@tommybennett80942 жыл бұрын
And the chunin exams
@nathanielb4985 Жыл бұрын
Not really. We saw more of what was going on in his mind due to monologuing but he never SHOWED it. Even when he knew choji died he still pretended to be fine
@yusufomar498311 ай бұрын
@@nathanielb4985 he literally cried in front of tsunade and temari at the end of sasuke retrieval
@saiyanprincesa79423 жыл бұрын
This was one hell of an experience 😭😭 I love these boys🤞🏽
@goldenboy01633 жыл бұрын
😍
@Juhxi12 жыл бұрын
@@goldenboy0163 💀
@getsugaallen66122 жыл бұрын
@@Juhxi1 😭😂
@getsugaallen66122 жыл бұрын
@@Juhxi1 give him props for trying
@10man613 жыл бұрын
No cap john got a point after that moment naruto had his own ninja way he seen the fault in ninja
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think Zabuza and Haku death was way more impactful tbh, Azuma has the advantage because we know him and InoShikaCho for longer but in terms of execution and Impact, Zabuza and Haku was presented betted and informed the ninja way Naruto adopts for the rest of his life
@jwm14442 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think the Zabuza/Haku arc is my favorite arc of pre-time skip Naruto. It sets up everything that is going to happen between Naruto and Sauske going forward, it leads to Sakura getting her character development in the Chunin Exam arc, it teaches Naruto that the shinobi stuff truly is not a game, we get to see Nine-Tail Naruto for the first time and really see how dangerous he can be if left unchecked, and the fact that I still could be explaining elements of how this one arc builds damn near the entire foundation of the rest of Naruto and Shippuden should speak for itself. I haven't even talked about the Sharingan and how it completely changes how we view Kakashi as a character. Asuma dying is sad only because Shikamaru, Ino, and Choji are beloved characters, and it was hard to see them upset. It has its effect on the series, but it's not the same as the effects Zabuza and Haku have on the plot and themes of the series.
@tthe0ne4133 жыл бұрын
Both sides had good points, but on another note this entire stream was wild, chat was outta pocket, they forget that the group is human too..
@NLMBxG33 жыл бұрын
Naw he downplayed tf outta that Zabuza scene. Naruto didn't understand the love Zabuza had for Haku, he was blind to it all he could see was the monster Zabuza was made to be, but ultimately Zabuza did what he was felt necessary to protect him and Haku even if it meant treating Haku like shit cause showing his love would be a weakness
@doubleAgent_0033 жыл бұрын
Dont nobody care about asuma. They had 200 episodes to make him a prominent role. We cared about a cool ass villain changing his spectrum in life. John is 100% correct.
@onyx38812 жыл бұрын
Bro one look at the chat and u can see mfs obviously cared lmaoo
@isaiahminott Жыл бұрын
It's not about asuma but how it changed the character of shikimaru into who he is today and id say he definitely was more impacted as a person than young Naruto was with haku and zabuza
@joaquinmuniz30552 жыл бұрын
Zabuza and Haku literally made Naruto come up with his nindo his ninja way he carried for the rest of his life.
@isaiahminott Жыл бұрын
And asuma changed the character of shikamaru. It impacted him a lot more than naruto
@hachelyd_i3232 Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahminottbruh, Zabuza set the standard for Naruto villains, stop the cap. Feeling sympathy for the villain was unheard of until that point.
@ktown35592 жыл бұрын
It was the sudden switch of anger to the chat that had me DYING. He said let me stand up for my boy real quick then carry on yelling at him 😂😂😂
@oseiarmani6382 жыл бұрын
I was more invested in Zabuza as a character than I ever was with Asuma
@Raydan1163 жыл бұрын
Real talk I forgot about Asuma, but I never forget about Zabuza and Haku
@wjedwards425 Жыл бұрын
I'm with John on this one, we only felt anything for Asuma death because of Shikamaru afterwards. However, that Zabuza scene impacted the main character for the rest of the show. That scene as John mentioned significantly impacted his feelings towards Sasuke and wanting to always be there for him, which he tried doing the entire show. Like John stated, the main character was significantly impacted, by virtue of significance is far more impactful than who Mark even stated is a side character.
@RPPotatoBoy2 жыл бұрын
The Zabuza and Haku moment literally introduced 2 main themes, state of the ninja world and destiny. I was dying in the inside when they were like "how did it impact the show" or "that happens in any anime"
@johnathancarter37263 жыл бұрын
LMAO JOHN MY FAVORITE RDC MEMBER NO CAP
@TySosa-3 жыл бұрын
Stop
@johnathancarter37263 жыл бұрын
@@TySosa- HOW ABOUT YOU STOP RIDING AND GET YOUR LAME CHANNEL OFF THE GROUND 🙃👋🏿
@Didithegoat2 жыл бұрын
Boy you gotta long
@fhedrickcaoili3 жыл бұрын
Na fr there were some awkward moments in the stream fr imo😂 if y’all were there when it was live y’all know what I’m talkin abt😭😂
@rdcclips103 жыл бұрын
Bruh 🤦🏾♂️ the stream really got out of control at one point
@leviithegeminitv78373 жыл бұрын
I ain't gone lie , I couldn't leave a "Like" on this one.. MARK BE OD'N
@skyjones923 жыл бұрын
I think I joined the stream after John was singing. So Idk what all went down
@BilionaireBoysSwag3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I stayed up til 3am was because I knew the VOD was being deleted
@ithinkimanaries26203 жыл бұрын
Dudes was leaking addresses, cussing out Courtney lol bruh stream was out of hand last night
@MUSSYBAKA2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t kakashi say to zabuza and haku when they were reanimated that he was glad that they were naruto first foes!? That’s means they had an impact on Naruto’s character development.
@sosodrake18072 жыл бұрын
Shikamaru’s moment with his dad and him crying is a powerful moment that was directed perfectly. The way they sat there in silence as his dad explained to him the shogi comparison and after , Shikamaru releasing his emotions and crying just hit different.
@killrob48623 жыл бұрын
Mark trippin the zabuza fight lowkey a tie with asuma, when it come to impact on the story Naruto still visits zabuzas grave in boruto and not asumas👀
@blahquinnyblah2 жыл бұрын
Damn it's like no one actually listened to John's point in the Naruto conversation. RIP. They're agreeing because it's Mark and not John
@michael6601 Жыл бұрын
Well John isn’t the most liked in the group plus he the newer member so it’s to be expected even tho it’s wrong
@kuold.t72923 жыл бұрын
This how I see it. Speaking in terms of actual death scenes themselves Zabuzas was much more sad than Asumas death because Asuma wasn't even really a character to us as watchers or readers, THAT'S BASED ON SOLELY DEATH SCENES ITSELF. going into a wider spectrum so including scenes afterwards involving both deaths then that's when Asumas death becomes very sad because we start to care about him due to the reactions of the rest of the cast such as Shikaku telling Shikamaru to let it out, Kurenai being informed and the funeral. John's point was kinda right to me.
@bryanxjames12153 жыл бұрын
And zabuza was?
@pirata20273 жыл бұрын
@@bryanxjames1215 zabuzas death litterally made naruto. It opened his eyes to the shinobi world
@bryanxjames12153 жыл бұрын
@@pirata2027 no tf it did notttt lol. And let’s say even IF it did, bruh naruto eyes would’ve been open to the shinobi world one way or another tf! Niggas didn’t know or give a single fuck about zabuza
@bryanxjames12153 жыл бұрын
@@nd7231 that’s not even a relevant question
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanxjames1215 up to asumas death zabuza and Haku were more relevant than asuma was in the grand scheme of the show. Even after his death they got more screen time than asuma as reanimations. How is asuma the hokages son and we knew nothing about him? Dude was irrelevant. With zabuza and Haku we saw character development and how zabuza the whole show was portrayed as a demon and when Haku died and zabuza killed Gato for him he looked angelic in a way as he died next to Haku. Not to mention the scene with the snow falling, Haku laying there looking peaceful, zabuza looking peaceful, the words Naruto spoke that shook his soul. Asuma just died and they were sad but nothing really happened except when shikamaru cried and let out all his emotion.
@TyroneTraynum3 жыл бұрын
Zabuza/Haku scene is impactful to Naruto finding his ninja way. By no means is it sadder than Asuma's death. Asuma's death impacted Ino-Shika-Cho losing their sensei, Kurenai losing her love and baby's father, Konohamaru losing his uncle, and the entire Leaf Village losing one of the top Jonin. John's argument is valid but it does not win the initial question of which scene was sadder.
@babyshak983 жыл бұрын
The scene with haku and zabuza is much sadder
@LoftyXsWaGX343 жыл бұрын
Zabuza and haku scene was much more sad. Zabuza finally finding his humanity too late. Holding hakus facing hoping he could go to where haku is and the snow giving the illusion of haku crying from the after life. Scene was brilliant. Asumas death scene was overrated
@whodat4lyfekris3 жыл бұрын
@@LoftyXsWaGX34 WHAT...👀? Listen, Zabuza always had his humanity, he just didn't show it or display it on a surface level. I think that's because he always wanted keep the mask of a Rogue Shinobi, along with keeping a powerful rep as the, *"Demon Of The Most"* his death was indeed impactful to specifically Naruto in showing him the harsh realities and perspectives of the Shinobi world; as well as, shaping him into being a great Shinobi he is today, but if we're talking just sadness. Asuma Sarutobi takes this easily...imho
@atorius3 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@leultrainstinct4063 жыл бұрын
Nah zabuza scene was both sadder and more impactful. The impact is obvious since it’s the theme for the entire series and naruto’s belief system. But y’all gotta understand: to see a VILLAIN break down like that was way sadder. I knew shikamaru would let out his feelings eventually. But I didn’t see zabuza crying coming. Then he fights that entire gang with no arms and swords in his back all to avenge haku. Then they die side by side peacefully.
@jaybronx983 жыл бұрын
Asumas death was prob sadder but zabuzas was definitely more impactful, naruto went back and visited their grave before becoming hokage cause they helped him find his ninja way
@BS-si6pj5 ай бұрын
I'd go as far to say that zabuza's scene was sadder and more impactful. It's one of the strongest scenes in the whole naruto franchise, and it set the scene for how good the show was going to be.
@youngchapo73033 жыл бұрын
Mark in his feelings heavy
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast3 жыл бұрын
Nah he got a point. People online be talking crazy saying whatever. He don't like what they putting in the chat he got a platform to roast them and he did. You gotta let people know what you will and won't allow.
@thelastquincy14572 жыл бұрын
Yea Mark definitely got in his feeling at the end but he had a valid reason to be there he was defending his friends and every point he said was facts especially when he talked about no one ever thinks how that makes the others feel.
@toosmooveeli Жыл бұрын
Nah y’all jus soft and get bullied irl so y’all talk bs online
@yeagerist68433 жыл бұрын
John was hella valid witought that scene Naruto would be different
@jojosabatino31133 жыл бұрын
They were in the chat yelling “get that nigga John” bro😂😂😂
@Galero153 жыл бұрын
There's an argument for the Zabuza/Haku scene being sadder/heavier than ASuma's death. It's been a long ass time since most revisited Naruto like that though. The tragedy of Haku and Zabuza dying without ever truly expressing how much they loved each other was heavy as fuck. Zabuza crying - knowing his childhood in the Bloody Mist? C'mon now.
@bionicallyacomputer292 Жыл бұрын
daym
@BS-si6pj5 ай бұрын
Exactly, though some people can't see that. That scene literally set the tone on how good the show was gonna be.
@lukeritter75073 жыл бұрын
Asuma’s death was definitely one of the most notable moments in the show. Literally hit so different.
@RYMAN13212 жыл бұрын
His death caught me so off guard when I first read that part
@SinclairSan2 жыл бұрын
i was happy af he died, he was literally the sorriest ninja in the show lmao Sakura stronger than him tf
@raku62512 жыл бұрын
exactly no one cares about asuma
@Drogas36532 жыл бұрын
@@SinclairSan only a sad human being would be happy about death
@MegaNingaBoy2 жыл бұрын
@@SinclairSan Sakuras stronger than majority of the leaf ninjas tho
@mahniwave2 жыл бұрын
what john was trying to say is that is where talk no jutsu started so it was a foundation for the rest of the show which is more impactful than asuma death.. i really wish john knew how to articulate that but mark is a very convincing guy so it may have been hard to think in that moment
@Darkdirewulf2 жыл бұрын
Mark is just louder and angrier sounding lol
@BS-si6pj5 ай бұрын
And it is indeed more impactful. What John said was all correct. I personally don't get attached to anime characters, but that zabuza scene was so well made compared to the asuma one.
@toufuvang31792 жыл бұрын
Everybody but John need to rewatch the Wave Arc. The entire point of Naruto is setup in that arc because of the "Ninjas are tools to be used" VS "Ninjas are people who endure." philosophies. It's when they present the idea of "What does it mean to be a ninja?" Naruto and Sasuke spend the entire show figuring that out and that's why it ends when Sasuke figures out being a shinobi is "To keep enduring until it comes to be, no matter what".
@michael6601 Жыл бұрын
Faxs
@theone68673 жыл бұрын
I don’t think they should have deleted the stream. Yeah there were some awkward moments and mark got heated a bit, but shit happens, you know what I mean? They’re human, and I like seeing that side of people,makes them feel like actual people. Nobody is perfect.
@bryant86603 жыл бұрын
Somebody leaked their address they had to
@theone68673 жыл бұрын
@@bryant8660 right I forgot about that. I didn’t think it was there actual address though.
@bryanxjames12153 жыл бұрын
@@bryant8660 wow that’s fucked
@rns8706 Жыл бұрын
I got the rest of it if y’all want it
@s7iji-i4l Жыл бұрын
@@rns8706 where
@ChinzaSteve3 жыл бұрын
I gained real respect for John after this.
@tngexpo48532 жыл бұрын
why?
@Dezember19th2 жыл бұрын
Me too the asuma and Haku arc set the tone for the rest of the series
@jayclizzy50902 жыл бұрын
@@tngexpo4853 Cause he’s the only one who actually stands up to mark & stands on his opinions
@road2hokage652 жыл бұрын
John seems like the only smart one because of this argument... Mark literally tryna force his opinion to make it right. He looks dumb... All of em look dumb besides John.
@hoodiemelo39622 жыл бұрын
@@jayclizzy5090 I swear the rest of rdc is lowkey scared of mark, his anger issues get out of hand
@DPerkk.__3 жыл бұрын
I’m still up at 4:38 am est at the release of this video
@sosa22143 жыл бұрын
😂
@egocentricblack32783 жыл бұрын
John had a point NGL. I'm watching a show called Naruto not shikamaru😂.
@Dugtro3 жыл бұрын
Bro RDC world is just too funny man
@christianmindgames7 ай бұрын
Zabuza and Haku scene was more sad for sure. Everyone felt sad how he treated Haku and how he just brushed him off. The Naruto activated Talk No Jutsu and it got even sadder. No comparison. Shikamaru and Asuma was sad but no.
@JasperStones907 ай бұрын
No comparison and I'm not a John fan or a Mark hater/ hoe.
@1mrperfect2473 жыл бұрын
naruto mom and dad flashback with the 9 tails is the saddest in naruto anime
@emperor87163 жыл бұрын
mark jus dont like john lets end it there 😂
@denisucuuu3 жыл бұрын
Can't blame him that man John slithered in RDC like a whole snake, you heard the story of how he got in? 😭
@isaiahhouston20563 жыл бұрын
@@denisucuuu Na how? 👀
@SlasherXGang3 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahhouston2056 he said he could get rdc on the news cause John sister do the news some shit like that lol and then some months went by John basically hoed them but it’s more to the story😂
@emperor87163 жыл бұрын
@@denisucuuu you cant jus leave us on a cliffhanger, cmon explain, what happened 😂
@isaiahhouston20563 жыл бұрын
@@SlasherXGang no wonder they be beefing with John like that 😂💀
@Plan2Code5 ай бұрын
This was peak RDC, for me 👍🏿
@m.d.sharpe88923 жыл бұрын
Bruh something about the way niggas argue is just funny as hell😂
@killua12932 жыл бұрын
I agree with John and shout out to him for being the only nigga in rdc that actually will argue against mark lol
@roneon24753 жыл бұрын
Zabuzas death > asumas to me. No one really gave a fuck about zabuza before his death that was how deep it was. Imagine the dude got no one to even care that he died he ain’t got shit at least asuma got people to remember his legacy and cherish him. This dude zabuza all he had was pain and sorrow.
@YourMasta3 жыл бұрын
Haku/Zabuza was definitely more impactful
@Jeeksters3 жыл бұрын
Reanimated Itachi actually letting his feelings out to sasuke before he left was the saddest scene by far. “I will always love you” 😢😭
@babyshak983 жыл бұрын
Fuck no, sasori was the saddest by far, it's the only one that actually fucked with me irl
@PlayStation360Gamer3 жыл бұрын
Fuck no, jiraiya was the saddest by far, it's the only one that actually made Naruto depressed in the anime
@Jeeksters3 жыл бұрын
Fuck no, my dad abandoning me was the saddest by far
@trixxy95662 жыл бұрын
@@babyshak98 we weren't even that attached to sasori. sasuke lived his entire life believing that itachi was nothing more than a criminal, but it was the opposite. When sasuke learned the truth from itachi himself, the impact that had on him can't be topped
@babyshak982 жыл бұрын
@@trixxy9566 I know that's why it's the saddest, It made me feel for a dude I just met, that's powerful
@OhYallDontKnowMe2 жыл бұрын
Man didn't no one give a fuck about Asuma dying. That scene had nothing on Haku's.
@93derekmusic3 жыл бұрын
It’s when Naruto got his Ninja Way but John hoed his defense.
@andrerogers31963 жыл бұрын
I agree with John on this 1. That moment just hit way harder to me.
@road2hokage652 жыл бұрын
Mark hold this L
@SinclairSan2 жыл бұрын
frfr
@sinbandzz3 жыл бұрын
Mark snapped on chat😂😂😂😂😂
@dj_kingsavagi16192 жыл бұрын
It did get hella awkward after mark called them out 😭 chat always fucking some shit up
@JovanyLifts2 жыл бұрын
@14:13 "That's a mfn Bar!!!"
@Perfect_NoPractice Жыл бұрын
John was right! That moment literally made Naruto find his Ninja Way!
@spiritgun72862 жыл бұрын
Really wish I was there to help John out 😂 zabuza death was definitely more impactful. The shikamaru and Shikoku scene was pretty sad but not really impactful we literally see the same thing when jiriaya dies and iruka and Naruto had their scene… not really impactful it happens all the time in Naruto but that zabuza death scene set the tone for the entire series
@aceeternal62302 жыл бұрын
Mark was talking bout how everyone wasn’t serious about the game when he was getting mopped 💀
@chinasa120432 жыл бұрын
I didnt care about asuma because we didn't really know him fr but I did feel sad because of how they felt when he died but zabuza was definitely more impactful
@ye873 жыл бұрын
Jon da homie n da group everybody jus roast non stop we all got da one
@MKDDFS3 жыл бұрын
yeah bro i’ve got my boy Dylan in my group who we roast all the time but we love that guy
@OhYallDontKnowMe2 жыл бұрын
John points were super valid.
@keystohellanddeath Жыл бұрын
nice to see that mark has been loudly eating into the microphone for two years
@SmashKing2 жыл бұрын
21:17 he heated him all up
@1wayDrell Жыл бұрын
25:36 bro had to throw in the “just because im the leader” 💀
@5thgen6913 жыл бұрын
Kushinas back story is sadder lol
@KonohasHero2 жыл бұрын
I think it was zabuza/haku for me, but not there death. it was Naruto’s thinking that ninjas aren’t just for tools. that speech always get to me for some reason same with Asuma as well, but not his death when he died I actually didn’t care just shocked.
@Rahh_Infa3 жыл бұрын
Y’all tripping, Haku helped form the super rasengan in boruto.
@trequangregg32093 жыл бұрын
Asuma’s death was funnier to me. They went in way too confidently. That man got waved and deserved it. Haku and Zabuza were sadder. On his death bed all he wanted was to be put beside his pupil.
@sibb48463 жыл бұрын
Fact
@YourMasta3 жыл бұрын
It’s not just that, Zabuza never realized how much he cared about Haku until he was dying and Haku was already dead.
@jisunggoat9602 жыл бұрын
Funny are you tapped
@jisunggoat9602 жыл бұрын
@@nd7231 no one cares about sasori got slept my Sakura
@marc-jannikmonikes107 Жыл бұрын
Think about how the zabuza scene sets the tone for the whole series. At the time we had only had a glimpse, of how dark and cruel the ninja world would be. It builds the foundation of the the show and presents concepts like, saving your comrades no matter the cost, the cruelty of the ninja world, how even the worst of characters have a spark of humanity in them and how narutos words and actions can change even these kind of charcters. Nine tails, sharingan, Team 7 first real world experience really and the list goes on and on. And in the end when zabazu goes rampage, just with a sword in his mouth, you are like wtf, he really did have feelings for haku. I still get the chills thinking about it. Also, at the time, so early into the series, this whole arc was ground breaking. I remember people had zabuza very high on their favorite character list for a very long time.
@johnnyking37192 жыл бұрын
zabuza and haku hit different , a kid naruto literally changed a fashoined killer's heart , idc about the sadness but the impact is different
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
I think Zabuza and Haku death was way more impactful tbh, Azuma has the advantage because we know him and InoShikaCho for longer but in terms of execution and Impact, Zabuza and Haku was presented betted and informed the ninja way Naruto adopts for the rest of his life
@bionicallyacomputer292 Жыл бұрын
10:52 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH OKAYYYYYYYYYYYY JOHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN, first time i see the rage YERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
@marc-jannikmonikes107 Жыл бұрын
The time of release is also an important factor. At the time the zabuza fight was legendary
@shippo4813 жыл бұрын
Dylan so messy 🤣
@xpkresxlost22643 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching the stream after the last game on this video, came back 1 40 minutes later. The chat was saying Mark sent a hit out for John (Aff) & slept him lmao?
@SmashKing2 жыл бұрын
12:00 the “I don’t know” mark didn’t even say Dylan’s name 😂
@TPShanks2 жыл бұрын
i felt sadder watching the zabuza scene especially with the saddness and sorrow ost playing
@Yung_Guac12 жыл бұрын
Because Asuma died.. Shikamaru was able to somewhat help Naruto go through Jiraiya’s death✊
@christopherantoine96573 жыл бұрын
Both deaths had impact n certain characters, naruto and shikamaru respectfully. I think both are equally impactful in their own ways.
@KeepRockKin2 жыл бұрын
17:50 omg 😂😂😂
@KeeYoung_2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO, Mark really snapped tho. But I’m glad he put them in check cause they was doing too much.
@bionicallyacomputer292 Жыл бұрын
18:00 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NAHHH MAN THIS PEAK MANNNN I NEED OF YAL DAY TO DAY ARGUEMENTS MANE THIS IS GOLD BRUHHH. (i wonder if back and forth like this but mannne yk im on my anime roadmap yk so i aint trynna get hoed yk.) AND FAXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX MAN
@SMOOVHIM3 жыл бұрын
That hit a nerve for mark cuz it’s facts lml
@imvolspeedgaming65292 жыл бұрын
If y’all said the shit with Zabuza is sadder then Shikamaru talking to his dad about Asuma y’all smoking on that donkey duke.
@PrinxeGaming_6 ай бұрын
John lowkey right. Mark is looking at it from a who matters more pov and how attached they all are to Shikamaru but Haku and Zabuza was the catalyst not only for Naruto’s ninja way but for the Sasuke turn
@Master_WhiteLightening2 жыл бұрын
Okay going back to the point where John said his biggest point is how it affected Naruto. Literally we never seen Naruto have murderous state of mind. When he came face to face with KaKaZu. We all knew KaKaZu wasn't going to live. He told Kakashi to stand back. Tighten up his headband. Naruto gave him his best and took out like 3 of his hearts. Kakashi finished him off. It was poetic for Shikamaru to kill Hidan.
@titankorb19912 жыл бұрын
lmao Mark blood pressure gotta be 450 😂
@mustaki7620 Жыл бұрын
😭😭
@richarddoctor25632 жыл бұрын
17:06 I’m cryinggggg!!!! Y’all got me dying lol 😂
@AoshiShinomori823 жыл бұрын
Both those scene was sad yes, but for me, has to be Claymore, when Theresa died.
@tremil2 Жыл бұрын
nah john got the point here
@uchihakillua98773 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie I found this hella awkward I don’t normally lol John actually had some valid points and RDC was teaming on John but how can this dude say Zabuza scene was more emotional than asuma dying 🤦🏾♂️
@jisunggoat9603 жыл бұрын
What good points lol
@jayyrealfunny21263 жыл бұрын
I think zabuzas death was more impactful..but it wasn’t sadder and I say that because it showed Naruto his ninja way and made him who he was. That’s the only reason I feel like it was more impactful..
@LoftyXsWaGX343 жыл бұрын
Zabuzas death was easily sadder than asumas. Asumas death wasn’t even that sad it was just surprising.
@troygff94563 жыл бұрын
How is it awkward 💀
@leultrainstinct4063 жыл бұрын
Cuz it was lol. Zabuza brought haku up the only way he knew how: to become an emotionless ninja killing tool. But the entire time he was suppressing how much he cared for him. Then he takes on the entire gang with no arms and swords in his back, and dies side by side with haku. What does asuma’s death have on that💀
@devondavis42953 жыл бұрын
I like that song whole time
@bionicallyacomputer292 Жыл бұрын
22:19 mannn THATS CRAZYYY MANEE NIGGA YOU GOTTA CARE BOUT THEM ALLL MANNNNN BUT MANN nahhh i watch sith diff anyway bruh LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this crazy maneeeeee i aint been in this position (or i hope not too) but ay if the main character aint hitting LEAST YOU OTHER MAINS AND OR other W sides characters bru (but the sad fact is that it aint focused on them man so yk the author and this that and screen time, yeaaa that crazy affffffff.)
@KaiIroku Жыл бұрын
Nah i fully agree with mark on the shikamaru scene because thats the only scene in naruto that stuck out the most for me
@Siinnerr3 жыл бұрын
Crazy part is John was right lmaooo it is more impactful meaning it teaches more yes shikamaru like cried and all and got revenge but that is not a lesson that’s pure wreckless mindset lol
@vonwalker74423 жыл бұрын
Friends Argue Like This So I Dont See The Issue lol
@catalyst.46642 жыл бұрын
And the chat thinks just cause Leland or Des agrees with Mark from time to time means they sucking his wood. Litterly they were friends / family way before this youtube stuff. Theyll got seperate opinions and same opinions even Desmond said "Man I can't even agree with Mark anymore" cause he gets called a woodrider everytime he agrees with him. They aren't like that type of people
@Zenith_Nulls Жыл бұрын
@@catalyst.4664 fax bruh they chat be acting so corny sometimes i've had multiple args like this with my friends and its been mutual that we didn't have actual hate or dislike for each other lol we js getting loud and a lil heated. niggas think you hate someone that you been friends with for years or are friends with js cuz you getting loud with them in an argument when most friends with a great bond have no issue arguing and getting loud and even making they bond together with that. man i swear niggas be so corny sometimes
@Zenith_Nulls Жыл бұрын
fax
@gelatogremlin Жыл бұрын
@@Zenith_Nulls not everyone is saying you hate or dislike anyone, sometimes in a group mfs just subconsciously are on the side of the most charismatic. And its something that people see often. Its yall making it out to be more negative then it is. its literally just something that happens.
@pawaythecreator63222 ай бұрын
Hands down Haku & Zabuza for me. Haku dying for Zabuza, Sasuke pump fake death which was the first one of the show, Naruto fox mode raging over him believing he died, Kakashi disgusted by Zabuza lack of humanity for not caring about Haku dying, Naruto breaking down in tears over the disregard Zabuza showed and realizing how cold a ninja can be, Zabuza breaking down over Narutos words,Zabuza with a knife and no hands slaughtering those ninjas to get to Ghatto, and Kakashi giving Zabuza his dying wish of Dying next to Haku! For me its one of the most emotional scenes in stories period. I love that Shikumaru scene too no downplay.
@pawaythecreator63222 ай бұрын
Forgot to add that these events literally set Narutos view on the way of the shinobi! Straight bars!