A 8800xt a little bit slower than a 7900xt isn't tempting anyone above $500
@KamilWyszynski-y3p18 күн бұрын
the 5070 will be better than the 8800 XT and will hopefully come at 549 or less which will basically make Amd 8000 DOA
@madgodzilla1246517 күн бұрын
If you're on RDNA2/Ampere there isn't a need to upgrade unless you're just going to a higher tier card. Seems like this is gonna be another small incremental jump again.
@madgodzilla1246517 күн бұрын
@@KamilWyszynski-y3p Still rumored to be a 12gb card. It's better than 8gb but you're gonna want 16gb for these newer games at higher resolutions.
@Dempig17 күн бұрын
@@KamilWyszynski-y3p Yeah right lol, the 3070 and 4070 were both very bad cards, the 5070 will for sure be bad. Nvidia does not make good low end cards anymore. No point in buying any nvidia card under the 80 class. 5070 will probably not even be as good as the 4070 ti super, which is already very bad performance. It will also not have enough vram for gaming
@magikarp206317 күн бұрын
@@KamilWyszynski-y3pMore likely 650$ for 5070
@louisfriend932318 күн бұрын
That geekbench score is probably a mobile part with low TDP, not the desktop GPU power envelope.
@robertstan29817 күн бұрын
No, the scores are irrelevant, they're obviously early driver/bios. That crappy bench doesn't even recognize the chip, hence results being no way near what they should be.
@robinrufino824418 күн бұрын
This is an apu, not a gpu
@braindead281316 күн бұрын
Wouldn't that be too low for an API though? I think 890m beats that.
@robinrufino824416 күн бұрын
@@braindead2813 rdn4 is for rt improve i think, so if this is true this is what we should hope
@braindead281312 күн бұрын
@@robinrufino8244 I will actually end myself of we get another dud generation.
@tobiaszkucharczyk859518 күн бұрын
windows 11 24h2 fps up
@defectiveclone845017 күн бұрын
Yep HUB just testes it.. AMD gets like 11% uplift intel gets next to nothing
@jeremysumpter893917 күн бұрын
@@defectiveclone8450 I have 5900x and I got 20-30% in most the games I play, 30% in cyberpunk...just wild
@christophermullins716317 күн бұрын
@@defectiveclone8450Intel gets 5 or so %. I love supporting AMD too but let's be transparent.
@Flatline_WRX18 күн бұрын
I don’t see Paul’s traps and delts… sad day lol
@phillysupra18 күн бұрын
🥱 Same joke every video
@CossackHD18 күн бұрын
I miss Тittyсum
@LuisHernandez-ep9sd18 күн бұрын
This might be AMD's next gen APU
@zakazanyphoenix357318 күн бұрын
waiting for rdna 5
@akosv9618 күн бұрын
Same. I'm not budging from RDNA 2
@puertadlm16318 күн бұрын
Rdna 6
@CHT199218 күн бұрын
waiting for rdna 42
@Souma_Ditya18 күн бұрын
Rdna 69420😃
@Ivan8005417 күн бұрын
A sto bre cekas RDNA 5? 😀 .Koju karticu imas sada,ako imas ovu aktuelnu seriju AMD RDNA 3 ,onda tebi ne znaci puno.Ja imam 6700XT 12 GB i videcu kakva ce biti 8800XT.
@JustHavingBlast17 күн бұрын
Never again AMD. I have 7900XTX, and that little but of premium for Nvidia is justifiable after using AMD for years
@maroosagaming17 күн бұрын
the 7900xtx is a hot card, glad i switched to a 4090 which is literally 15°c cooler
@JustHavingBlast17 күн бұрын
@@maroosagaming I wouldn't go that far but 4080 is more than enough, you get so many features and little things that AMD is lacking. Not to mention that FSR is useless
@maroosagaming15 күн бұрын
@@JustHavingBlast well it is not enough when you are targetting at least 180 fps in every game with settings maxed out also in my opinion DLSS/FSR is a shitty excuse for bad games
@jeffibuilt11 күн бұрын
Little bit of premium? My 7900xtx cost me 750 new and out performs a 4080 in every game I play. And on top of that it's more stable than my 3080. If you have issues with a 7900xtx it's likely a you problem or you just want useless settings
@AmUnRA25618 күн бұрын
wtf, where is the confirmation?
@ofon200011 күн бұрын
Trust me bro
@qweryuiasdf17 күн бұрын
so its confirmed to not be confirmed. Great, thanks
@patrikmiskovic79118 күн бұрын
Great GPU for 499€ faster than 4070 ti plus cheaper hope it comes this year, this GPU is faster In ray tracing than 7900xtx far faster
@silkyzoid18 күн бұрын
My Sapphire Nitro+ RX 7900 GRE is very close to the 4070 ti SUPER average according to 3dMark
@darkfire369117 күн бұрын
Yea you are comparing to 4070 TI, what about 5070 or 5070 ti? ;d
@axstra255717 күн бұрын
@@silkyzoid3d mark prefers your card Doesn't mean it's better You can't compare Nvidia vs amd benchmarks in those apps Best way to compare it is games In which the 4070 ti super is alot better
@ofon200011 күн бұрын
If it's not faster than 7900 xtx in raster, it won't be faster in rt. Idk how people can't see this
@silkyzoid11 күн бұрын
@@ofon2000 It can be faster in RT
@VoldoronGaming18 күн бұрын
28 cus makes this sound like a very low end desktop or more likely an apu. This is almost certainly not RDNA 4 desktop. The desktop 8800xtx is expected to fall between the 7900 xtx and 7900 xt with better rt. $550 is the max they can charge but it should be $499 and it will sell like crazy
@fajaradi122317 күн бұрын
But we all know it won't be the case. If Nvidia can get away with overpricing, AMD will do the same. I bet they'll try it on this generation. At least on the several months after the product launch.
@kognak664017 күн бұрын
It's 56 CUs.
@axstra255717 күн бұрын
When will it releaseeee
@hotdog926217 күн бұрын
"desktop 8800xtx is expected to fall between the 7900 xtx and 7900 xt" how is this going to happen with its specs
@ofon200011 күн бұрын
@hotdog9262 it's probably bullshit. This happens eith every radeon leak cycle
@terrycorkum17 күн бұрын
Can't wait to buy one in 8 yrs when they're 100 dollars cheaper than the inflated msrp.
@evilsatorii17 күн бұрын
if top RDNA 4 card it is slower then 7900 XT then it is quite disappointing, I was hopping for at least 7900 XTX level of raster. performance but with much better RT performance then 7900 XTX
@DakuHonoo17 күн бұрын
you are hoping for something all leaks for the past 2 years claim it won't do
@chien.nguyen.17 күн бұрын
best not to trust that information, raster performance is the only thing that can increase significantly but the price is still terrible, of course it is still cheaper than Nvidia. RT performance still won't improve significantly if they don't get serious about making a dedicated core for RT like Nvidia (in case you ask me why, KZbin has a video available explaining how GPUs do RT and what that dedicated core does irreplaceable effects)
@haukionkannel17 күн бұрын
Smaller gpu die… so not surprise it will be slower.
@DakuHonoo16 күн бұрын
@@chien.nguyen. with RT dedicated cores being the only significant addittion of RDNA4 you mean? yes, RT performance is what is supposed to increase the most
@chien.nguyen.16 күн бұрын
@@DakuHonoo There is no information for sure if this is true as RDNA 3 previously had this rumor and it did not exist when rx 7000 was released. So it's too early to confirm it.
@jimr570317 күн бұрын
The 7000 series didn't impress me enough to upgrade my 6800xt, and it doesn't look like the 8000 series will either. I'm starting to think that AMD and Intel want everybody to transition to consoles...
@dsayiasdad809917 күн бұрын
I'm thinking about upgrading from 6800xt to 7900xt or 7900xtx before rdna 4 comes out because vram in productivity applications. Pls rdna 4 be good to drop prices.
@bfhandsomeface40918 күн бұрын
If AMD cant make a significant uplift in performance over the 6800xt (40%) for less than $550 this time, I'm just going to buy NVIDIA again. Might as well pay extra and get actual performance gains!
@VoldoronGaming18 күн бұрын
Like how the 4060 wasn’t faster than the 3070?
@BTAT210117 күн бұрын
Same here. Going to replace my 6800XT with he 5080. Those RDNA4 stuff sounds as shitty as RDNA3 was.
@bfhandsomeface40917 күн бұрын
@@BTAT2101 I know, my 6800xt has been out 4 years and they are still releasing basically the same cards. Then you factor in their technology is not as good as Nvidia, and much slower being implemented, I’ll just pay the Nvidia tax!
@nowherebrain18 күн бұрын
56 cu, yes saw that too..and the clarification between harukazi and kepler.
@TomRocket-zo3hf18 күн бұрын
Paul has been absolutely ravished by a stomach bug. What sort of 'bug' has he picked up?.
@robertmiller163817 күн бұрын
Damn I was planning on getting a stomach bug. Thanks for the tip!
@steveweidig537316 күн бұрын
28CU sounds more like the lower-end Strix Halo variants than any RDNA4 GPU except maybe the successor to the 7600 and older (6500/6400) GPUs
@ziggybombers156317 күн бұрын
Man I can’t believe you’re sick again, it’s like you come down with something every month or so. I do hope you get better bud and I would seriously start looking at your diet. Get well soon mate 👍.
@paulkendall606917 күн бұрын
Many possible answers AMD sandbagging performance per watt either by using old silicon or under powering, AMD testing mobile part, AMD seeing how low they can drop power supplied before the performance drops of a cliff(AMDs Vega &then RDNA has given surprisingly good APUs considering the lower power and fact it's sharing space with hot CPU cores yet don't scale as well to discrete cards with more power and better thermal controls)
@AlejandroOni17 күн бұрын
Waiting for RDNA69.😌👌
@christophermullins716317 күн бұрын
1mhz FTW. I was not sure at 2100 but thank goodness we got that lil extra.
@OtavioFesoares15 күн бұрын
I came here for them guns, Paul. Where are they!?
@VyVARBIZON17 күн бұрын
AMD sent gpu with a -300mhz gpu clock to aib to build the card and avoid leaks on performance, they know when the aib have the gpu it's gonna leak so now they sent nerfed test version, it's a good thing because they can wait to see on good yield what performance to expect and then release a press conference, instead of what they hope
@fajaradi122317 күн бұрын
But how the board partner will design the power thermal behaviour with that kind of sample chip?
@LatinLegacyNY17 күн бұрын
Looks like something that would go into a PS5 Pro or a laptop configuration.
@blackmennewstyle17 күн бұрын
That joke at the end of the video lol Well we are kinda sick of all these CPUs and GPUs releases bringing no real value on the table lol
@marxmaiale998118 күн бұрын
Personally I am expecting incremental improvements as if it was more the marketing machine would be going hard.
@Wild_Cat18 күн бұрын
RDNA 4 is going to be a failure
@AlexHonger-fj3nx9 күн бұрын
Not if NVIDIA refuses to sell anything decent under 800$... Again...
@Q36BN17 күн бұрын
3:50 the question is whats the score on downclocked rdna3.
@LukeDupin17 күн бұрын
This is the AMD MO, take a tech step forward with a middle tier entry, release a much higher end very next. Repeat
@HafeezBlackLeg17 күн бұрын
oh shit, i just skipped some ads due to the fake thumbnail... sorry
@HafeezBlackLeg17 күн бұрын
and some misleading titles
@solidreactor17 күн бұрын
Get well soon
@paulct9118 күн бұрын
But, Raytracing though!? Is it f great, or just good enough? Edit noticed typo... kept it, my rando F!
@ChinchillaBONK17 күн бұрын
These results could be either mobile gpu, apu or even the PS5 Pro.
@user7840517 күн бұрын
Regression problems 😮😮. It's due to rt cores doing first time run results big issues with architecture bugs. Just like arc first time comes out. Current drivers not gonna work with Frankenstein architecture
@traversharty17 күн бұрын
It's an APU bro, an APU.
@very_weird_person18 күн бұрын
I love your voice bro .plus thst accent.
@ferdgerbeler849418 күн бұрын
Man, they better be cheap AF if they're throwing in the towel on competing on performance.
@umit66618 күн бұрын
So this video show us nothing. Please keep us informed also mobile versions
@xeofela13 күн бұрын
cant wati for the 8900 GRE
@Khalid_Looby17 күн бұрын
please test new windows 11 preview that increase fps by 10-35% compared to older windows version, and please test if it affect zen3 ( ryzen 5600x, 5600, 5800x, 5800X3d etc ) or not because all ppl who made comprasion between the 2 versions of windows did not include zen 3. so sad.
@ferdgerbeler849418 күн бұрын
eh? so their top chip is SLOWER than last gen? or are these the midrage ?
@riven412118 күн бұрын
There is no top chip. AMD cancelled it
@thegreatlenfer17 күн бұрын
So the N44 is the 7700 non xt .
@makak236617 күн бұрын
it s funny how all techtubers try to hype radeon , while amd say hold my beer it s time to disappoint again
@666stankyrich17 күн бұрын
The new chips are slower than last gen which was slower than the gen before that gen. 🙃
@riannair710117 күн бұрын
I will just stay cool with my rx 7900XT...not a slighty problem to stay away upgrading rdna4.
@chrisgrimes32517 күн бұрын
So it isn’t here 🤷♂️ it’s just a leak which could also be bull
@kaamelott084717 күн бұрын
I think this is N44 result.
@pa-pyro280416 күн бұрын
Any of there top card performing worse than than the 7 thousand series is an instant pass I have the 6950xt and passed on the 7 series because my card is as fast as there newest best card for twice the price
@skndr306718 күн бұрын
So when is the actual release date for these things?
@VoldoronGaming18 күн бұрын
4th quarter this year
@Gamer-q7v17 күн бұрын
Navi 48, not even matching the 7900 XT, would be pathetic. Even it's aimed at the midrange segment. Navi 48 should at least be in between the 7900 XT and 7900 XTX in raster performance and rouhgly on par with the 4080 SUPER in RT performance.
@haukionkannel17 күн бұрын
In your dreams… they don’t do that anymore!
@Gamer-q7v17 күн бұрын
@@haukionkannel It's not even that unrealistic to expect that kind of performance.
@DonovanMcNabb517 күн бұрын
Sad it's not 24gb
@R6ex17 күн бұрын
Need 5090-killer!
@GhostofZuuzGaming18 күн бұрын
maybe they forgot to turn on FSR4 haha
@maramark17 күн бұрын
NGL the title is way off
@laszlozsurka899117 күн бұрын
RDNA 4% garbage. The 5070 alone will smoke all of AMD's next gen lineup.
@shahin856918 күн бұрын
Only 2.1 MHz?!!!!!!!!!!
@AlizHalo18 күн бұрын
it's most likely a experimental chip, so might see different clocks
@cosmiczeppelin18 күн бұрын
2.1 GHz. Still rather slow, but not 2.1 MHz slow 😂
@VoldoronGaming18 күн бұрын
Sounds like an apu chip. Not a desktop chip
@WayStedYou18 күн бұрын
GHz, and early sample chips are always clocked low
@evilsatorii17 күн бұрын
it is very early gpu bios version and driver so it is not suprising to see it running at low clock speed
@user7840517 күн бұрын
told yo so....RDNA4 is major disaster ...it means AMD gonna delayed it and probably redesigned architecture again from scratch. Its rumor they have issues with running RT cores with ROPS and TMUS cause huge clocking error when running with drivers .IT won't be fix by software or bios update.. It gonna requires hardware redesigned fix that would delayed another 8 months
@DDRWakaLaka18 күн бұрын
good morningggg
@wesley_cyber17 күн бұрын
RX8600
@graysathorndike99559 күн бұрын
Perez Christopher Jackson William Walker Scott
@tEch-0118 күн бұрын
is this amd racing to the slowest gpu? 🤦♂️
@FergusonZora-m4e9 күн бұрын
Smith Shirley Gonzalez Margaret White Betty
@CuttinInIdaho17 күн бұрын
How can a company that does so well with CPU's be such an overwhelming disappointment when it comes to GPU's? Why even have an 8000 series?
@AzherZarach16 күн бұрын
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@DaemonForce17 күн бұрын
Complete waste of time but good.
@mraltoid1918 күн бұрын
It'll end up WAY faster than the 7900XTX in some games, and a little faster than the 7900GRE in some games. Figure $600 for that, not bad.
@P5YKOTIK187018 күн бұрын
You're crazy, will probably be around 7900xt performance and nowhere near xtx performance in raster, I can see it as good or a little better in RT but that's about it.
@hanyuchuang18 күн бұрын
Screw this song and dance because I already know the future: RDNA 4 delayed from CES 2025 to very last day of Q2. At Computex, Lisa Su shows slide indicating 1.7x IPC improvement over RDNA 3, however the review shows a 5% performance regression and AMD marketing display shocked pikachu face. Meanwhile the flagship Nvidia card is literally 3 to 4 times faster.
@stuartedwards699618 күн бұрын
While costing 10 times more...
@VoldoronGaming18 күн бұрын
No it’s not lol. Where you get the 3 to 4 times faster? Graphically challenged? He’s an nvidia fanboy
@GangstalkingClips18 күн бұрын
RTX5090 is going to smoke that hot garbage. Sorry AMD
@jon471518 күн бұрын
Counting on mid-cycle RDNA 5 cards that compete with 5090.
@bfhandsomeface40918 күн бұрын
The 5070 will probably beat this GPU! Disappointing unless its very cheap!
@MalXGAMING.18 күн бұрын
@@bfhandsomeface409 bro but 5070 could have 12gb only and 5070 ti 16gb it's according to leaks 😢
@evilsatorii17 күн бұрын
@@MalXGAMING. even with 12GB 5070 will probably be faster then top rdna 4 card if it is slower then 7900 xt
@laszlozsurka899117 күн бұрын
5090 will smoke even the 9900 XTX too... that's how behind AMD is. A 5070 is gonna make the 8800 XT look like hot garbage.
@bobross912718 күн бұрын
No ddr6x or ddr7........
@mikebruzzone957017 күн бұрын
mb
@dieaking647518 күн бұрын
Waiting for rdna 6 cuz m deff not gnne upgrade my 7800xt nitro this card is a banger !!!
@dieaking647518 күн бұрын
Maybe even rdna 7
@DavidTheScientist18 күн бұрын
I built a new PC last spring with 5800X3D and some other top-quality components. For the GPU I put in a used 6600XT because the 7800XT still wasn't out. So now I'm trying to decide between going for a 7800XT Nitro, waiting for RDNA 4, or maybe even considering a 4070Ti Super (if the price comes down)... 🤔
@phillysupra18 күн бұрын
@@DavidTheScientistmy guy... You chose a gpu with only 8 pcie lanes.. You may be getting ok fps now but not for long. Also, the 6750xt and 6800xt are better deals than the 7800xt as they cost less and have equalish performance. If your plan is to wait so much longer to upgrade then I'd just save my money now and get a 4080 variant card as it will last you that much longer.
@DavidTheScientist18 күн бұрын
@@phillysupra Yeah, the 6600XT was only intended as a placeholder, due to the GPU shortage last spring still. It has kept me entertained with things like BeamNG and EuroTruckSim2 in the meantime anyway haha. My intention was to build a PC for MSFS2020, but looks like it'll be MSFS2024 by the time I upgrade the GPU 😅 4080 was a consideration, but a little power-thirsty for my liking, and a bit pricey too. MLID just leaked that 8800XT (or whatever it'll be called) will likely be released by November, and be at least 4070ti Super performance for $600, so if true, that'd suit me nicely!
@phillysupra18 күн бұрын
@@DavidTheScientist flightsim is really hard to render outside of the 4080/ 4090 cards. I dabble in the car so world(meaning I've got a full aluminum rig 😬) myself and when I looked into msfs and it's requirements for a decent fps I was a lil shocked
@ZiZo3434418 күн бұрын
1st!
@AbdullaDhanahani18 күн бұрын
2
@jonathonrosalia934515 күн бұрын
The 5 people who buy Radeon gpus in the world will buy this to I guess
@rgstroud17 күн бұрын
This just proves no amount of fixes will make this gen of AMD GPUs worth looking at. Just skip it. Ohh wait 24h2 fixes Ryzen so just keep your current GPU and Microsoft will fix that!