RE: Athlean X | Upright Rows Are NOT The Most Dangerous Shoulder Exercise | This Is!

[@deeday3187]

Ok so Jeff wasn't wrong when he said it's a bad exercise he was wrong for saying it's the worst for your shoulders? Ok thanks for pointing that out for us 😒

[@Fitnessoriented]

It's hard to come up with unique content when you have nearly 400 videos....had to think of something!

[@mattthew2429]

Exactly... so this is a video agreeing with Jeff . But making it sound like he knows more... don’t think I’ll watch anymore of this dudes vids... so I guess it’s back to good old reliable Jeff 👍

[@ONE-pg7wd]

whyre you hating on it... its not even a bad video and he is agreeing with jeff and is just touching on it more...

[@Warren_DCKettlebell]

I learned a couple things from this video appreciate you taking the time to make it.

[@ksdaman]

So you agree it's a bad exercise but you think one is worse. You're just piggy backing off his popularity in order to get subscribers.

[@Fitnessoriented]

Yes, they are both bad exercises, but I think behind the neck pressing is even worse. I disagree I'm piggy backing off him, LOL! I'm nearing 400 videos on my channel and perhaps 1%....maybe only a little bit more than that is focused on another person.

[@ksdaman]

so why the need to use his name? You used it as click bait. what is your most popular video on your channel again?

[@Fitnessoriented]

Most popular video in my channel is on the Gluteus Medius...where his name isn't in the title. Here I happened to put his name in the title. I think you are reading too much into this KZbin stuff and making it way too complicated!

[@ajhands1876]

As far as exercise go, I look at Athlean X and I look at you and well I will look back to Athlean X for my exercise advice. Oh and FYI looong before you made this vid he did a whole thing about how bad the behind the neck press is too so........

[@bon3wax718]

This guy is straight out spitting facts but you people won’t listen to him because he’s not as ripped as your favorite fitness youtuber.

[@vagabond4576]

The bitch is actually agreeing with Jeff. But acting like he knows more.

[@MovieViking]

Actually there's nothing new here - but a valid point is that Jeff uses exaggeration to bait for clicks in his video titles. That a small fraction of people can do the upright row without problems is of little value to know as it takes an x-ray to truly know if you are one of those few people. Discussing whether upright row or press behind the neck is the worst is splitting hairs... not least because that exercise is also on Jeff's no-go list.

[@briesullivan883]

Because ‘our favorite fitness youtuber’ actually knows what he’s talking about. He’s a physical therapist and he trained Antonio Brown(yes that Antonio Brown), The New York Mets, and Zac Efron when he did the movie Baywatch.

[@emilyklockengamcafeem.ed.1402]

I don't know how I accidently came across your video but I find that it is odd you chose Jeff as an example of being wrong when there are so many other videos and research studies online that the upright row is unsafe and should not be performed due to shoulder impingement. You state how it is not the worst exercise, but comment in someones reply below how we should just avoid it- Now I am really confused why you posted your video. Please watch his video at 2:20 how he explains as a physical therapist who trains hundreds of professional athletes and was the trainer for the New York Mets explain how he tests someone for shoulder impingement. Your comment in your video is not true in regards to this. I agree with some of the things you are stating and appreciate them but maybe watch more or all of his videos before picking just him stating his advice is wrong. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKKZaKKmqLiSnsU

[@jacobarmstrong4990]

AthleanX already did a video on the behind the back press, also being a really bad exercise, which he already stated....

[@larryd3093]

Do you even lift bro?

[@Fitnessoriented]

What kind of lift? Shop Lift, Face Lift, Weight Lift, Fork Lift, Air Lift?

[@leedavison7215]

Don you have a good point on the exercise that is worst than the up right rows where you mentioned holding the weights behind your head and above. I have known people at the gym who have injured them selves doing this exercise and the up right rows. You have a good point on how to prevent damage to the rotator cuff. Good point Don. Respectfully.

[@Fitnessoriented]

Thank you very much Lee! Except, my name is Jeff, not Don :-O

[@Zippo1617]

It’s how your body reacts not the exercise... I’ve done pull downs behind my neck and shoulder press also behind my neck for over 20 years never had a problem...( one glove doesn’t fit all)

[@bookle5829]

I just dont get with these people who won't allow other people to speak out their opinion. I think this video is great especially for those who are really curious.

[@Fitnessoriented]

It's true Adam. I just made this video to go into more depth. I also don't think people realize how hard it is to constantly come up with new video topics after 400 videos. This is why I rarely make videos though on other people....cause some individuals idolize them so much whereby if they see you saying something that can be perceived as even slightly critical of them, they'll lash out

[@elephantal]

There are a lot many others here on KZbin who have criticised upright rows, but you chose to mention only Athlean X in your title, just to grab eye balls and thus increase views? Great video though. You can and have a lot more to learn from Jeff Cavaliere of Athlean X. I guess we all do. After all, ain't learning always an ongoing process?

[@Fitnessoriented]

Indeed, since he is quite well known in the fitness community. I'm glad you enjoyed the video though. I'm not sure he could teach me that much, but I'd still love to talk with him one day

so you are suggesting people try out the exercise until they get hurt in order to decipher their acromion type? WHAT

[@faithfull7576]

Now hear this Weight Trainers, prevention is key, be safe, or suffer got it, goooooooooood your smart thank you Jeff Cavalier for the science of exercise physiology

[@MrSmashandgrab]

You're point isn't bad but how do you expect the average gyn goer to know what type of Acromion shape they have? To your own point, 2/3 of people shouldn't do this and the 1/3 that possibly can have no practical way of knowing if they have the proper Acromion space.... he's also done the Behind the neck press as well....

[@Fitnessoriented]

No one will know what shape they have unfortunately. In general, I'd just avoid the upright row exercise, as it is better to be safe than sorry. If he mentioned the behind the neck press exercise, I probably didn't see that video

[@rowdy.rockers]

Yeah, I agree. I've been doing upright rows since I was a teen when I started doing the Joe Weider program in 1980. I still do them on shoulder day and I'm 51 years old. 💪😀

[@Fitnessoriented]

Some people are lucky and this exercise doesn't give them issues.....for others though, this exercise can wreck their shoulders

[@rowdy.rockers]

Fitness Oriented ☆ Thanks Joe Weider, for wrecking everybody's shoulders! 😁

[@nomnomyourmom]

@@rowdy.rockers Having a strong foundational knowledge of anatomy and body mechanics > your opinion because you've been doing an exercise and it hasn't injured you yet. You're not gonna get an injury after one bad rep, it's wearing you overtime, and what takes a long time to cause it takes a long time to fix it. Don't wait until you're injured to stop. Watch this video "World's Most Dangerous Exercises! (UPRIGHT ROWS)"

[@mparrischell]

I find having a car roll over my head to strengthen my brain vault more dangerous.

[@mohammedkj1239]

But he said it will be biceps injury! Not a shoulder injury! As a type one shoulder shape !

[@charlesdexterward7781]

OK, upright rows are indeed dangerous, but smashing your clavicle with a sledgehammer is even more dangerous. Don't do the clavicle sledgehammer smash, like and subscribe!

[@tpap6827]

I think with Jeff should have said is that the upright row with straight bar is a terrible exercise for most people . I know he brought some alternative is like high pulls, but you can still do an upright motionwith dumbbells bands cables kettlebells and anything that allows you to get in a comfortable position with your hands to prevent the wrist pain and also that allows you to pull the handles apart so to speak (watch Eric Bugenhagen's explanation on kettlebell upright rows. You can also perform upright rows from a low cable with rope handles, pull the weight at a 70 angle by stepping back from the pulley and really pulling the scapulae together using the traps. So Rather than lifyi g the load vertically, you are basically stretching the upper and mid traps and then pinching them together while angling your body away from the cable, so that if you released the resistance you would risk falling backwards. I have found that this method (performed by Kai Greene and Eric's kettlebell recommended variation both eliminate the severe shoulder discomfort and nail the traps effectively with a more athletic body mechanics than shrugs. Dont get me wrong, nothing hits upper traps like heavy bar shrugs, but i have found certain cable pulls, including safe variations of the upright row,, high pulls, and power snatches, snatch grip deadlifts and other deadlift variations are superior to standing barbell shrugs to hit the mid and low traps. If you look at the back of any high-level pro bodybuilder, powerlifter with a big deadlift or strongman competitor, they have thick columns of Erectors from the top of their glutes to the base of their skull with a 2-4 inch thick blanket of trap muscle with fist like rhomboids under the traps pushing the mis traps out so when they are standing sidways, their mid and upper back sticks out past their triceps like a tortoise shell. Then you have your average gym rat who is fairly developed on the front of his body including some lat width and upper traps. What separates your fairly impressive gym rat from a top-level strength athlete is the density and layered thickness throughout the muscles flanking the spine. They have a heavy dense muscle hyde that looks like a super highdensity life vest of the densest muscle of Ny of the skeletel muscles. Just grab your average heavyset individuals traps for a massage. Think about that amount of density times five resting across the entire back of the torso with lats jutting out from the side of the torao from the hips to the armpits gradually getting wider and thicket as you get closer to the armpits. That's what Dorian Yates, Franco, Ronnie, Jay, Johnnie Jackson and Roelly Winklar and many others have this look and it is the most impressive look on any physiique. it lets the world know that you have spent plenty of time lifting super heavy because you don't get a back like that doing lat pull-downs

[@francoisiswatching]

It's very good that you bring anatomical variations in the discussion! Upright rows become good with a "triceps rope", it can even make the external rotators stronger if you do them properly.

[@Fitnessoriented]

That's what I always try to do :-) You'll enjoy my next video I have planned I think. If you use that rope and can avoid the internal rotation portion of the upright row, then that could be a good exercise. I would just scrap the upright row entirely though and do safer exercises, like lateral raises with the pinkie down to target the side delt, and shoulder shrugs to target the upper traps

[@markkara1139]

Liked the content, but I didn't see the point in calling out Jeff, clickbait?

[@march4503]

thanks Federer

[@jaykin4927]

No issues over here and been doing this for a while .

[@motoxbuddy]

someone check on Bertil Fox (the guy in the picture heavy shoulder pressing) and see how he's going.

[@daveyboy_]

motoxbuddy not good. Hes doin life ! he escaped the death penalty so there's that

[@stayfit4life]

There's a simple rule i use... The Hands-Up Rule.. all shoulder exercises stay below this position, which you described as the External rotation position/danger zone. The shoulder is not a weight bearing joint like the hips, thighs, knee, etc. Yet gym goers love destroying their shoulders and its why IMO it's the number 1 gym injury. And yes great shoulder can be develop without damaging the rotary cuff. Great Video

[@Fitnessoriented]

Indeed Gerard! I wish more people understood that, that the shoulder isn't like the hip and it sacrifices stability for mobility. So over time with behind the neck presses, ligaments can become stretched and then you can run into problems. Similar problems can happen from the chest fly machine, bench pressing, dips, etc

[@danstafford6536]

Narrow grip upright rows works the traps more than deltoid... upright rows doesn't necessarily mean vertical?

[@frblaze2]

I've FINALLY done an MRI!!!! for my shoulder, this was the on site specialist reader, haven't brought it to my sports physiotherapist yet, but the guy that did the scan said that he CAN'T see anything wrong and that there is no visible damage! wow! I knew it, if its instability, you can't catch that on an mri can you?

[@Fitnessoriented]

Indeed, that is a possibility. If you had instability, it very well may not show. I'd go see a sports physiotherapist though and ask them about that...they might do this test on you kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGjcdaaen8qVn8k

[@frblaze2]

yeah cause now I can barely move my shoulders without popping and pain when doing side raising... this test would make them crack all over and by the way its ALL in the front

[@Fitnessoriented]

Aye, that test is an indication of instability. If you had that, that wouldn't really show up on an MRI. I'd definitely see a sports physiotherapist as you said though. They may be able to help you

[@LeoMes01]

Jeff actually made a video about behind the neck press. Honestly what's wrong with regular millitary presses And high pulls

[@MarcelSterling]

Agree. This exercise is way worse than upright row (which is bad too).

[@z31rider24]

I did up right rows for about 10 years on and off. Maybe I'm that Type of bone structure mentioned in this video. Never had a problem.

[@johanhansson4574]

That you have type one acromion doesnt mean that you automaticly have more space. I have type one acromion and my space is 9mm. That space is measured with youre arm dangling at your side. Pretty average but not great. But that space is relative to other stuff like how big is the greater tubercle?. The tubercle grows when the muscles that attach to it grows and so does the tendons. That means that as you progress in your lifting your space when youre lifting youre arms will be narrower and narrower. Thats why you often get the problems when youve become very muscular. The issue with the uprigt row isnt only that youre raising the arm in a certain position, you rotating the humerus as you progress upwards, that makes a grinding force and the millstones are the greater tubercle and the acromion, the tendons lie between those and gets grinded, not just pinched. Grinding forces under the acromion is THE WORSE. Thats why its safer to do lateral raises because here youre just pinching the tendons. One should understand that pinching doesnt do as much damage as grinding, pure logic. With that said I wouldnt do lateral raises either beacuse one, the pincing, and two, that it tends to work the supraspinatus heavely and that builds up the greater tubercle, yes bones grow as you apply force on them. Then lets go to the behind the neck press. The problem here is that you push the humerus back into the acromion ones again. The acromion sits at an angle downwards to the rear and that angle gets steaper as youre scapula gets tilted posteriorly as when youre in an over the head press position. So when you force the humerus back like that and pressing up an down youre kind of slide grinding your tendons against it in a realy narrow space. One should understand though that how bad that gets is all about how far youre scap i retracted, the further the retraction the better, you get closer to the safe zone called the scapular plane. Allthough one should stick with the front pressing. The activation of the delts when abducting the arm is relative to the angle of the scap not the bars position to the head. So you get a realy good side delt activation with the front press if you do it right. But none of those are the worst exercise. The worst is the rear delt movement with the arms fully abducted and internaly rotated. That shit is grinding your tendons like madness. If you have a type 3 acromion you can actually get youre tendons stuck and snapping in an out on that structure on every rep. Realy realy realy bad,

[@Fitnessoriented]

With a flat type, you are much less likely to impinge. A chart can be found on wikipedia here regarding the correlation between acromion shape and rotator cuff tears en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acromion With the flat, you are far less likely to experience issues, but it is indeed still possible. There are other factors too as you said. I'd argue also the issue with being very muscular is people neglect mobility and stretching, and on top of that, they focus on muscles they can see in the mirror, so their chest dominates their back and their shoulders round, which can cause impingement. With lateral raises, the main issue I have is when people do them with the pinkie up, as that can cause impingement. Perhaps the biggest thing of all with shoulder exercises is to not just workout the deltoid, but the rotator cuff too, as then you can get a muscle imbalance as I talk about here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWiYq55orLl-gpI

[@johanhansson4574]

One should distinguish from ordinary people getting impingement and dudes that build up giant muscle. If you have a type 3 acromion you pretty much can kiss the bodybuilding career goodbye. Where not talking about people with extremely bad shoulders here but ordinary gym rats. The rotator cuffs role here is to hold down the humeral head, keep it in place, when abducting so the humeral head doesnt migrate up. Primarily the subscap. Then we have the shoulder capsule that have shown in cadaver testing that when som parts are stiff the humeral head will migrate up with certain movements. Like the abduction with internal rotation. So its not good to be to stiff in that. Its not good to try to become to flexible either, then you get other problems. The lateral raise, the thing is you always impinge, the body can handel a bit of impinging on the tendons. But when constantly doing that for 20 years the tendons can get a bit mad at you. And the side lateral raise tends to work the supraspinatus a lot and that would lead to bigger tubercle and thicker tendon so less subacromial space. Its actually how archaeologist can se on bones how the human used its muscles. It will have bigger muscle attachements. The pinkie up is worse because the humeral head tends to migrate upwards on internal rotation. I would say the biggest problem though is the advice you see all over the net that you should actively try to fixate the scapula so it doesnt move in order to not use the trapz. Thats not a natural motion, the scapula should perform upward roation on the lateral raise so the impingement wont be so bam slam into the acromion. The trapz should be engaged as an upward rotater of the scap along with the serratus anterior. If you try to hard holding the scap down so not to shrug you also hinder the upward rotation. It should be a fluid motion. An other bad advise is to allways do full range of motion on everyting aka impinge till you cant impinge no more

[@briesullivan883]

But how would we know if we can ‘get away with it’?

[@garybryant7274]

I find that I get better results with lighter dumbells and a slower tempo. I do like the cuban press.

[@Fitnessoriented]

I had to look up what that exercise is. It seems like a good exercise, but I can easily see someone messing up on the form and getting injured if they don't do it right

[@BrooklynMoor]

I still see guys in gyms doing behind the head military either with free barbell and or Smith machine not even heavy weight.I have been saying ouch for the longest when i see it as well as lat pull down heavy in the ROM too.I cringe. I still think upright rows can work if you just go up to low chest stay light moderate and use a cable beside barbell and or dumbell. I just dont do them much for the structural damage they may cause its not smooth R.O.M for my shoulders.

[@RetrofIex]

You sir are pulling what we call a “Jason Blaha” with this vid

[@setha6163]

Jeff also did another video talking about how bad the behind the neck press is terrible too.

[@setha6163]

But I do agree that sometimes Jeff really likes to overemphasize his video titles

[@Fitnessoriented]

Ahhh I didn't see that video, but I doubt he'd leave that exercise out of being discussed given the potential of it to damage one's body. I agree that he over-emphasizes titles too, but then again, I've done it too! He does extraordinarily well on KZbin and it is probably is primary income, so he must know what works!

[@elliottisles-english5646]

You contradicted yourself so many times throughout the video. You agreed with Athlean X (New York Mets physical therapist) with the internal rotation test. He's also done a video on behind the neck exercises as well. Why would anyone want to weighted test that tests for impingement? People usually don't know what type their bones are. I'm a Personal Trainer and I will never program these for my clients. I have shoulder problems myself and when I was younger I used to do upright rows and so much pain through my shoulders. agree with behind the neck exercises, hyper external rotation is very bad.

[@scottcole4467]

What is the difference between upright rows and high pull? To me it's not much different. You're still bring your elbows up in the same manner.

[@youcancallmeZimmy]

Well..how come Arnold loved the upright row so much? Did he suffer from it in the long run?

[@TrustNJesusChrist]

Maybe. Do you think he talks about all his aches and pains? He may not have even known it was bad. Just because someone is world wide known, doesn't mean they know which exercises are safe or not. A ton of bodybuilders just copy what everybody else is doing and assuming its correct. He didn't have KZbin and the mass amounts of research done on the exercises like we do today.

[@SolidGearR]

Jeff mentions the behind the neck presses being bad as well and should be performed in front.

its bad because it is elevated weighted internal rotation. O.K.

[@evdi4263]

I didn't find something that disagree with Jeff's video. You also recommend to avoid some other exercises that are more dangerous than upright rows. It's better to strengthen our delts,traps and external rotator muscles with safe exercises. So the alternatives that Jeff gave or you might propose are fine.

[@Fitnessoriented]

Basically the point of the video was to say that Behind the neck presses were even more dangerous than upright rows. But I also went heavy in-depth on anatomy, which I felt added the most value to this video. There's a risk and reward with every exercise and with the Upright Row and Behind Neck Press, the risk is too high to make them worth doing

[@djway9162]

hey so are regular shoulder press bad for the shoulders with heavy weight

[@richardsheeran7425]

You should pay attention to his content because he made another video about behind the neck exercises.

[@meeta1008]

Sooo...Jeff @Athlean-X is right..thanks for providing "new" information :/

[@nosho409]

So Jeff Cavaliere wasn't wrong, you're basically just pointing out the fact that Athlean X video titles might be a bit click-baity... thanks for wasting 5min of my time Captain Obvious.

[@nicholasquintero1080]

I do both upright rows and btn shoulder press. Maybe I have a type 1 shoulder because the btn press feels great and nothing makes my traps respond to growth like upright rows. I’m 40 and have been lifting heavy since my late teens. I guess I’m just lucky but if it’s true it seems like the standard shoulder press feels much more unnatural and painful. What is an alternative?

[@moparman2010]

Thanks Jeff

[@Fitnessoriented]

It's my pleasure :-)

[@mjsinfinity3627]

Good video 👍. Known that stuff already , but you gave me a deeper understanding.

[@Fitnessoriented]

That's my goal, to give everyone a deeper understanding!

[@cristiancruise9467]

Good explication... what do you belive is the best excercice for the V-cut abs?

[@Fitnessoriented]

Thank you Cristian! For those, you have to workout your Obliques and Transversus Abdominis, which is your deepest ab muscle. For the obliques, twisting movements like leg lifts with a twist will hit them well. For the Transversus Abdominis, I covered that in this video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/epS8fIOKjpinfbM

[@briesullivan883]

*explanation

[@Seb4asti4n]

Thank you for this information. I know the video is a couple of months old, but I'd really appreciate your thoughts on a question about this excercise. Do you think this movement can be done "safely" if you do it in a Smith machine and don't lower the weight all the way down? I've also heard that it helps to push the body almost behind the bar as it goes over your head on every repetition. Thank you for your insight.

[@Fitnessoriented]

Glad you enjoyed it Sebastian! That would be safer if you didn't lower the weight all the way down. What you described could help too, since that could take pressure off the front of your shoulder. In general though, I don't like behind the neck exercises, as I discuss in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpqpqmh-qKZobJI I saw you actually commented very recently too!

[@Seb4asti4n]

Fitness Oriented Thank you for the in depth answer. I'll have to ponder of whether to continue with this "modified" version or not. Hah, I guess it's a risk reward question.

[@davdev793]

Should I just do front press than? That one we do with machines help.( not sure how its called in english) or have a good option to place in its place?

[@green8718]

What is your opinion about the high pull? What about the overhead squat and the snatch?

[@FirstLast-rm7mb]

What % have the type 1?

[@MrStrutxD]

I don't feel pain or anything with behind the neck presses, no cracking nothing. Do you think its okay to progress slowly on?them?

[@Fitnessoriented]

I would generally stay away from anything behind the neck in general, as it isn't necessary to do those exercises and they give you unnecessary risk

[@miladne1092]

great video as always. please watch out for sound clipping or skipping in few places. like at the 5:00 min mark

[@Fitnessoriented]

Aye, I noticed that after I uploaded...first time that's ever happened to me!

[@Bravco509]

I kinda thought this video was going to be a video trash talking Jeff. However, it looks like you were just adding on to his point.

[@Clda47]

Paul Aurelius yeah i thought it was gonna be a roast vid for my man jeff was gettimg ready to throw hands But if anything they're both right irs good to see professionals scrutinize popular excersizes from a therapist viewpoint

[@TheDpandolfo86]

So basically you are not refuting Jeff your just extending his point.....?

[@zeljko4189]

Awesome video,so much good information.Crazy thing is that these are the exercises that most people do in the gym.I hope more people see your videos.

[@Fitnessoriented]

Thanks man! I hope more people see me too! Indeed, the upright row is a very common exercise I see people doing that isn't good for their shoulder

[@oldmanwina]

so when i an upright row and i do some heavy rows, does this gradually injure me even if the motion doesn't cause any pain or discomfort?. as i sit here the motion feels fine. also good to know ive never done behind the neck stuff its always been a bit out of my range of motion

[@Fitnessoriented]

It can injure you over time. In the beginning, pain and discomfort may not even be there, but as the movement is done repeatedly, the area can potentially become inflamed. A few people may be able to escape problems though and I talk about that in this video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5vcZJSmrtRpi6s

[@melo15813]

So im causing damage when I do my barbell military press wrong? Sometimes I feel myself pressing forward or backward even tho im trying to press straight up.

[@Fitnessoriented]

It's possible. The thing is, the shoulder wasn't really meant to press very weight overhead in general, since it sacrifices stability for mobility, unlike the hip which is much more stable. But you can still do the exercise. I would just be sure you are stretching and keeping up your flexibility. The mobility of your scapula is also important, as I talk about in this video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qabOiYqYhcqIgs0

[@Khroniclas]

This video is fairly subjective.

[@Fitnessoriented]

It indeed was....I feel though that if I don't do subjective videos or maybe even drama videos that things get too stale

[@Khroniclas]

mate, the people who are subscribed to you come here for the objective purely scientific stuff, they come here for your clear explanation on why certain things risk your health and how you can avoid that from happening. if they wanted drama they would go watch... well literally anything else.

[@funnyfitguy6235]

Well its a really bad excercise for some I fucked up my shoulder with this excercise.

[@danielle2066]

SERIOUSLY! Omg what a great video!! I think I have already watched this a while ago, but I will say it again!

[@JohnDoe-gk5xj]

Great video i totally agree with you.

[@Fitnessoriented]

Thank you Mr. Doe!

[@willie9397]

thanks for clarifying this upright row never bothered me and it is one of my favorite exercises

[@Fitnessoriented]

Aye, some exercises simply aren't that good for the body. You can replace this exercise though with safer ones that still workout your Middle Delt and Upper Traps effectively (Shoulder shrugs for upper traps, Lateral raises with thumbs slightly up for the Mid Delt....since thumbs down causes the same problem I mentioned in this video)

[@HUCY1709]

Excellent video...

[@Fitnessoriented]

Thank you Hugh!

[@arnoldibalboa2736]

I did a lot of behind the neck presses and i injured my shoulder please what should i do

[@Fitnessoriented]

I'm sorry to hear that :-( I would stop doing any exercises behind the neck, as all of those exercises place extra stress on the shoulder. If your shoulder is still injured, I think seeing someone like a physical therapist in person would help you out. Don't do anything that is painful either, as pain is a warning sign from your body

[@ssheikh3598]

arioldi balboa tips for btn press:- 1) use wider grip width, (you cam even try Klokov Press) 2) lighter weight than military 3) use smaller ROM, don't bring the bar below ear lever

[@SkarrGaming]

RIP :(

[@user-hq4gt5vv4m]

check out Klokov press... and tell me what you think about it.

[@farhan4322]

Great video love it

[@Fitnessoriented]

I'm very glad you enjoyed it!

[@Utini_1]

Are there any safe alternative shoulder exercises?

[@Fitnessoriented]

I like his own variation here of pressing overhead. It's safer since it conforms to the structure of your shoulder...I remember seeing this video from a while back and have always kept it in mind kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIOWaZKQgLCIedU

[@jgg518]

Hi Sir, I appreciate your video I really picked up quite lot of staff from your videos I would definitely recommend your channels to my friends. Personally I want to ask: How to increase the shoulder flexibility? I have a very limited range of motion for my right hand when I try to reach behind my back (like when we want to scratch) Is it a sign of tension in rotator cuff? Do I need to work on creating that space? and how? Or Is it a Sign of internal motion muslce tighness? Appreciate for your answer

[@Fitnessoriented]

Thank you for recommending my channel, I greatly appreciate hearing that! Is it painful when you try to reach behind your back? If you don't have shoulder pain, perhaps try doing that motion, except hold a towel in your opposite hand above your opposite shoulder so that the towel goes down behind your back and the hand of the side you are trying to stretch can grab the towel. Then with the top hand, try pulling up on the towel so you can stretch more into that internal rotation on the side you are stretching. That may help you...if it is painful though, don't do it

[@jgg518]

Than you for replying me Yes that's the type of the motion I am restricted about even do the stretch you motioned I can fell some tightness in the front part of the shoulder but thankfully it's not painful but it's still big gap between my two hands. Is it a sign of unfunctional or week rotator cuff? or is it one of the internal rotating muscle that keeps bothering me.

[@TheRealMikeSizz]

Ha-ha! Jokes on you! Nah, just playing. However, he actually has BTN presses on his "World's worst..." list, and speaking of which, that's what it is.. a list. It's basically a series he has: World's worst exercises. Quad extension is also on that list of exercises in the Iron Graveyard. So it's not like he meant it as number 1 but it's in the Garbage tier of exercises. Also, bonus points for whatever KZbinr rides the tier list wave KZbin videos and uses one for exercises.

[@cirtap99]

You are becoming my Guru....well done!

[@Fitnessoriented]

Awesome!!! I shall be honored to be your Guru!

[@nishu1404]

any exercise for spondylosis .?

[@Fitnessoriented]

I would definitely see a physical therapist in person for that to check you out and go for them. As a general thing though, people with that want to more-so focus on spine flexion exercises and not spine extension exercises. So if you walk on the treadmill for example, you may want to put it on a slight incline so you flex your spine more as you walk. I'd avoid any exercises that cause pain though

[@khale4473]

I love your video

[@Fitnessoriented]

Thank you very much!

[@jackvai2681]

This guy is right...people triggering off on his factual analysis are merely worshipers of certain youtube gurus/who do provide awesome utility/but aren't ALWAYS right... Remember...only God is infallible.

[@treewisps4085]

these people mind as well say all lifting is bad lol, ooo your putting weight on that you could hurt yourself

[@glennmarksalgado7180]

RIP to these exercises.

[@KneelB4NoMan]

Dude. Really?? 😑

[@salikali8849]

U should not point out jeff. This is immature