Re-Re-Ranking the BEST and WORST Primary Weapons in Helldivers 2

[@kenane2741]

Cant wait for the Re-Re-Re-Ranking the best and worst weapons video after this

[@Jaas4321]

true

[@DrPooplove]

I might need to come up with a new naming system lol

[@axolo8694]

@@DrPooploveRanking the best and Worst Weapons: Part 4 Reloaded Ultra Deluxe Edition- The Return of the Constitution Rifle

[@marekw7562]

10 seconds into the vid. I hoped for a comment like this ❤

[@marekw7562]

​@@DrPooploveplease don't. I'll wait a year for re-re-re-re-re(69x)-remastred rating review ❤

[@nex_1ne]

Important note: even some lower tier weapons can become S tier when combined with certain loadouts.

[@montecarlowithdawningornam1817]

Example?

[@SuperGoose42]

I would also like some examples

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

Ye if you take the MG43 and primary is a sniper (although i'd just go for the crossbow anyway).

[@nex_1ne]

@montecarlowithdawningornam1817 for example, I'm currently running this against bots. AR liberator penetrator for Light to M enemies, shield generator to counter my light armor, plasma pistol for devastators-striders etc. commando for heavies, impact grenades, rocket pods for additional heavy precision damage, an orbital gattling to thin the numbers or precision strike for even more heavy damage, depending on what my team has. In conclusion, run whatever you like and gets the job done for you.

[@michaelcharles7757]

@@montecarlowithdawningornam1817I’ll say the normal liberator combined with the lib pen guard dog and quasar canon will be a good support for a team. Normal lib for swarm control. Lib pen guard dog for when you’re being swarmed while running or when a lot of devastators/ berserkers are pushing you. Quasar canon for obvious reasons. This is one of my fav loadouts for 10.

[@hendrik1769]

The one buff the constitution should get is a clip reload when empty.

[@lestinkyposter8189]

As a diver who hasn’t taken the ceremonial rifle off since distributed out. Yes, the senator received a speedloader for the reason of “too long of a reload” I feel the same at regarding the ceremonial rifle.

[@eliupdike]

I feel like if they gave it to the constitution, the should also give it to the punisher, slugger, and cookout

[@R3GARnator]

Absolutely, it's a head-shot machine against bots.

[@RDUFFAL]

@@eliupdike There's a significant issue in the shotties receiving that tho: Those are single shell tube fed, without a large redesign on the manufacturing side, you would not be able to slot in a full tube of shells, in addition to that being ridiculously impractical for large quantities of ammo. The Constitiution and Senator are realistic for it, being that their ammo systems are not stored length-wise, and thus take up much less space in having those quick reload platforms.

[@bertthepizzaman]

​@RDUFFAL there be shotgun speed loaders it's similar to lever action speed loaders.

[@NL-Chaos]

S tier Bots: S tier Bugs: 32:09 Crossbow Explosive 28:14 Cookout Shotgun 41:56 Scorcher Energy 31:09 Breaker Incendiary Shotgun 44:36 Purifier Energy 32:09 Crossbow Explosive 48:41 Dominator Special 41:56 Scorcher Energy 44:36 Purifier Energy A tier Bots: A tier Bugs: 03:14 Liberator Penetrator AR 06:34 Liberator Carbine AR 09:28 Adjudicator AR 09:28 Adjudicator AR 14:38 Diligence CS Marksman 15:58 Knight SMG 17:01 Reprimand SMG? 17:01 Reprimand SMG? 23:09 Slugger Shotgun 22:09 Punisher Shotgun 24:05 Halt Shotgun 29:18 Breaker Shotgun 33:23 Eruptor Explosive 30:20 Spray and Pray Shotgun 35:11 Punisher Plasma Energy 33:23 Eruptor Explosive 36:38 Arc Blitzer Energy 35:11 Punisher Plasma Energy 38:07 Scythe Energy 36:38 Arc Blitzer Energy 40:15 Sickle Energy 47:26 Torcher Special 48:41 Dominator Special

[@SteinCatboi]

Not gonna lie, "top-heavy" tier lists are exactly what I wanna see for PVE games lol Also been converted to a Blitzer main recently, when combined with a longer range stratagem weapon it feels awesome

[@Penumbra_sol]

blitzer has been underrated ever since it got buffed way back, its basically a mini arc thrower now. especially paired with shield generator and 110 rocket pods or thermites and you can wipe any bug off the earth

[@SteinCatboi]

@Penumbra_sol Yeye I've been bouncing between it and the Torcher for bugs lol, still trying to decide between the two honestly

[@madmanvarietyshow9605]

In a team combine it with the flamethrower, stun or gas grenades and you've got a nice crowd control and AOE package

[@kap8495]

For the Halt shotgun you can change your key bindings to switch ammo type with one button press. Go to controls>combat set "open weapon wheel" and "weapon wheel right" to the same key.

[@TheLongWind]

Thank you! I just got the Halt and wanted to bind the swap before using it.

[@xDripz_]

Oh my god bro ur a life saver this was my only criticism of this gun

[@725TheRizzo]

Oh by god THANK YOU

[@Vinlegren]

Thanks man! That makes the Halt so much better

[@Frostx_1776]

The halt is very good in my opinion like a stun and medium armor penetration rounds in one gun is pretty good

[@MegaSJ]

The Constitution rifle isn't even a historical weapon the Helldivers used since they would already have access to far better technology when Super Earth Government was formed. It's just a ceremonial rifle, like the ones used in Military funerals to fire off during burial.

[@eliupdike]

That's why it's called a pre-democraric relic, super earth never had to use it

[@boodlebubby6147]

It's called "pre-democratic" because it's from a time before Super Earth was Super Earth.

[@julegon2]

Some youtubers think it should be able to kill bile titans 😂

[@erwinsetyo1061]

Reprimand is basically an UMP 45 in space. Low cap and rof, but it's hit like a truck

[@shirokatatsu5886]

Better than UMP, damn thing fire the same round as Verdict. Basically, SMG firing magnum round

[@sergeantnerfsalot2784]

Yea i was thinking that

[@kryvex4996]

​@@shirokatatsu5886 A UMP with desert eagle ammo 🤣? The damage output makes it seem that way

[@komradeklutch6215]

I would say it's more like a short barreled .50 Beowulf but yeah, same concept.

[@nerochromatic]

Design Kinda resembles a scorpion EVO in My opinion. And that thing fire's like an MG42

[@suntzuthesecond]

When I hear Stalker noises, I'll be reaching for the Halt's stun rounds in a hurry. I've also found success in using it to get rid of melee enemies chasing down a squadmate without too much risk of friendly fire. With distance, the spread of the stun pellets also means you can suppress a large group with just a few shots. Just a few hours ago, I was using the stun rounds in combination with gas grenades to cover a squadmate while he ran around closing bug holes in a heavy nest (while being chased down by a bug breach, a patrol that wandered by, and whatever's already in the nest). My support weapon was an Arc Thrower, so I could only use it very sparingly until he finished and broke away from the horde trying to chase him down. When it was all done, I told him what I did and he remarked, "No wonder that felt too easy".

[@NapoleonicGeese]

Purifier used to be a meme weapon among my friends and I, whenever we'd lose a round, we'd say something along the lines of "time to get the big guns out" and we'd equip the purifier, then it got buffed and now we actually use it seriously, I was really hyped when the purifier (my son) got buffed

[@Penumbra_sol]

its amazing now, two tapping gunships is so fun

[@bennalbrecht]

Thank you for keeping up to date with the updates! I’m coming back to the game after a few months and this saves so much time testing everything out

[@DrPooplove]

Glad it helps!

[@Snake-d6i]

the liberator concussive also pairs really well with the guard dog backpacks, push them back and your lil buddy shoots them

[@shirokatatsu5886]

Its make Stalker become a joke. They can't get close to you, and guard dog shut it down

[@Quintinius31]

Works even better with the halt

[@killxswitch]

I use the Cookout the same way. Great stagger and damage and locks up groups of enemies while the Gun Dog and the fire DoT finishes off stragglers.

[@9unslin9er]

In 1984, a gun store owner in California was killed when asked if he had a Plas-1 Scorcher in stock. All of humanity is fortunate he didn't.

[@comradeweedity1648]

Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

[@dingdongspaghetti]

a re-re-ranking? looks like I'm re-re-watching this one

[@DrPooplove]

Hope you re-re-enjoy it

[@Moodyman90]

I said it before on some of your other videos, but it's amazing how making most of the primary weapons actually useful to use rather than being glorified sidearms for the support weapons has improved the game overall. Here's hoping the only time you have to re-re-remake this video is when we get a new enemy faction and a number of new guns.

[@DrPooplove]

Yeah I need a break anyways on primaries lol glad the game is in good shape, I hope they can focus on building the game now

[@iKnownot999]

Well we got the new faction, time for the re-re-re-ranking

[@serioussponge6416]

A slightly underrated ability the Punisher Plasma has is that you can use it to turn yourself into a pretty reliable Mortar when the opportunity presents itself. Aim straight up and fire all your rounds and you'll shower enemies with explosions about ~50 meters ahead of you without needing to expose yourself from behind a wall. I should mention that this tactic also applies to the grenade launcher support weapon too and with that thing's fire rate you can do intense bombings of fortified enemy positions

[@joshuasmyth3115]

I love the sickle for one reason: its perfect for nailing devestator heads. Its extremely minimal recoil and fast fire rate means that it's extremely easy to get shots on target, and since youll be moving to cover, the second or two your waiting is more than enough to cool the coils

[@alexsimon4633]

I think the Halt might be the best gun in the game. It can stun for around 5 seconds (maybe more) which trivializes stalkers, hunter squads, spewers, devastators, and berserkers. Basically every enemy that is annoying or hard to deal with. Learning to switch modes doesn’t take much practice either. Its mag size is technically just as much as the other guns in the punisher family.

[@sneckyboiyt6875]

I agree, plus idk why he wasn’t able too but if you shoot the charger in the face, it will stun them. I know it’s an odd place to aim, but shooting them in the mouth will stun them

[@9unslin9er]

I wouldn't have a problem with the Consitution being AP4.

[@KeeperOfTheGate02]

The Halt’s grown on me tremendously. Once you get used to it you fumble much less, and after that it’s just a punisher loaded with emergency “Stalker B-gone” backup bullets, without trading off the ability to kill anything smaller than a hiveguard in one shot. Stun shots were niche and I still never find myself taking them out for medium sized bugs, or ever shooting more than one shot of them at a time. The more I play the more niche uses I discover for them, and I’ll admit it’s pretty fun accumulating so many niche uses that at least a few are going to happen per life.

[@chuch7992]

While I agree with your list, I can’t help but feel the sickle got done dirty. Bots ranking was fair but I can’t help but feel the sickle’s wave clearing ability for the bugs is pretty solid. But that’s my opinion.

[@ProvidenceXIV]

Pooplove has mastered the art of engagement baiting on the Arc-Blitzer. The algorithm has been bested, the comment section will flow, the debate will continue for infinite re-rankings until the heat death of the universe.

[@matchstick21]

Wanted to throw out some weapon specific notes of mine, though I will say I do really enjoy these videos! For the Scythe, I'd say this does better on M&KB, the accuracy with the ability to zip straight to specific limbs is really good. The few times I've used beam weapons with a controller it actually threw me off how unsatisfying it was to use; it's effectiveness (or at the very least my enjoyment) really hinges on being able to point it exactly where I need it to go, quickly. For the Sickle against bugs, I think of this gun less as an AR and more as an MG. It's good for when I need to sustain damage on groups and have the space to do it unhindered, as it's actually got quite a large magazine size. In a similar fashion to the MG-43, where I don't want to be caught reloading in the hoard, this doesn't want to start its opening salvo in the middle of the hoard. Additionally, I like laser weapons with support weapons so that I don't have to worry about reloading when I switch back to my primary, that has saved my bacon a few times. They pair nicely with the Quasar since I can just keep a chain of "shoot till almost overheat -> swap -> charge/fire support weapon -> swap back" repeating constantly, and it also doubles as a "I don't trust blueberries not to steal all of the ammo" loadout.

[@FelisImpurrator]

I was always confused about why people hated the beams so much even before the megabuffs. I always thought they were situationally good but not top tier... And often amazing after the buffs. Then I realized they were all playing on controller and couldn't just slice legs off bugs like it's Dead Space. That explained everything. Being able to just surgically cripple the bugs or melt dev heads from ludicrous range is incredible, especially since there's no more recoil on these things. Hard agree on the Sickle too. Especially on ice planets, that thing can practically rip through an entire breach/drop without ever needing to stop firing. Start early and thin the horde before they get to you and it's pretty much a Stalwart with infinite ammo.

[@Zekharion]

I am 100% of the same philosophy. I agree with the video; plasma weapons are really great, but good luck finding enough ammo to keep them fed while three other people snatch ammo and resupply pods like hungry seagulls. I usually use the las sickle, laser pistol and quasar cannon simply because then I can go as far behind enemy lines/get cut off from the others as much as I like, and still function well enough. There's nothing worse than being pinned down with an empty rocket backpack, an empty plasma rifle and an rapidly emptying pistol/SMG.

[@Itz_Gecko]

Fair Review. I like watching you explain the reason behind your placing. Have a great day ^^

[@DrPooplove]

thanks!

[@water754]

the slugger has slug rounds that make it have more range(like 60M more then the punisher) so thats also why it felt better on the bots as there wasn't much damage fall off. also blitzer is S tier. billions must electrocute.

[@BigPapaSpeedwagon]

The torcher agaisnt the bugs is an s tier weapon if you fire it closer to the floor to get the ground burning. You will quite literally delete a horde single handed and will never need the strategem flamethrower ever again. Its my go to weapon for the bugs paired with the commando for titans and such.

[@FelisImpurrator]

What's your secondary and nade?

[@BigPapaSpeedwagon]

@FelisImpurrator the revolver and i usually bring gas or stun grenades to slow down hordes or bigger enemies. I haven't had team mates complain so I'm guessing it works well XD

[@TheLukeylala]

Im loving the Halt. Not even using stun rounds, just love the damage and med armor pen. Goes well with the AMR, got all ranges covered against bots.

[@MilkyWrath]

been loving the halt as well without really using the stun rounds. just feels good to use a shotgun on the bot front

[@Icy_Igloo]

Thank you for this list. I love the fact that there are so many good guns now which makes loadout diversity much better, and the game so much more fun. When the game is hard, it becomes necessary to equip the "optimal" weapons. Now I find the game challenging, but I also have the freedom to try different loadouts without it feeling too difficult.

[@jonathanatkins9816]

I know we can’t agree on everything, but the sickle being C-tier for the bugs hurts haha. I feel like the infinite ammo, virtually no-recoil, and having the ability to sweep up smaller chaff targets gives this at least a high-B in my eyes. Great list though! Listened through the whole way, and will definitely try to give some of these weapons more usage.

[@samwild6630]

The other element related to the infinite ammo is that it has a magazine of 100 shots, which is massive for clearing chaff.

[@kenethernandez6246]

It's good on a hunter world but when you get a lot of medium enemies it simply lacks the damage to keep up. I've tried my best with this gun but it needs more damage or medium pen to be good. If you pair it with the regular guard dog that has medium pen then yes it' feels A LOT better.

[@ChrisDC2]

It's a relief when I hear people like yourself say "mag" instead of "clip". Thank you.

[@DrPooplove]

Please dont watch any of my early Helldivers videos then lol

[@FelisImpurrator]

​@@DrPooplovecareful, you could get clipped

[@proxymurphy7357]

Exactly what I was looking for. An overall tierlist with the gameplay of each weapon in the background. Thank you so much mate

[@wibble2482]

Any video where the person talking is just speaking in a clear concise manner is instantly a 10/10

[@falcononeniner9896]

I agree with the rankings now. I used the breaker last night against the bugs with the guard dog rover, flamethrower, and napalm at level 7. I was unequivocally fucking up the horde and made off with just under 600 kills. I can't wait to see what the arc blitzer does when I unlock it.

[@jackbernard484]

Honestly i prefer the primary blitzer than the arc blitzer support weapon as it shoots faster. Granted the Arc Blitzer has more power but its slower rate of fire means you get swarmed easier

[@falcononeniner9896]

@jackbernard484 that's what I mean, quasar cannon and primary blitzer. I have the support one unlocked, it's a little underwhelming and I tend to use support weapons for big boys. The primary should be able to take on the swarm imo.

[@jackbernard484]

@falcononeniner9896 I do too I rarely use a support weapons outside of Quasar, EAT & RR

[@laserduck6149]

40:15 Scythe bros, we're winning Jokes aside, on the bot front, with the new scope, you can treat it like an incendiary sniper!

[@slayzet4293]

I complained about it not being ablw to zoom to muself but what do you know we got the zoom and its goated

[@montecarlowithdawningornam1817]

If Pair it with the cannon and use the scythe like a secondary their heat cycles line up perfectly. You deadass don't need ammo which frees up your pistol for something like the stim pistol

[@t1h3b3]

my all time favorite weapon😃

[@Kelontro117]

the reprimand is essentially the UMP-45, the ump45 has high recoil and i couldt imagine firing that heavy smg with one arm with out my arm flying all over the place

[@johannhawk8471]

the Reprimand SMG classification makes sense to me for 3 reasons. 1. high damage falloff compared to rifles due to SMG-class low velocity 2. extra high MoA(wide spread on shots) 3. it's really UMP45 shaped. i like using the burst fire since it's a lot easier to count 8-ish bursts than 25 bullets so i can avoid the lengthier full reload in favor of faster tactical reloads. While also managing the recoil.

[@R3GARnator]

It's accuracy is really terrible at range. Practically unusable that way.

[@ThePackman627]

Yeah that spread, needs to go. It literally has the highest spread at 50. A bunch of other weapons have their spread at 20. Spread has nothing to do with the recoil, you can aim dead center on a bot and your bullets will fly everywhere even in semi-auto. It already has high damage fall off compared to rifles, so it wouldn't hurt the gun to have a 35 round magazine and for it to have a quicker reload. I feel like that's all that it needs

[@johannhawk8471]

@@ThePackman627 Pros: Shoots desert eagle rounds on auto. Cons: Barrel is so smooth(brained) it is free of thought. Kind of a victim of being forced into a role no other weapon has so they cranked its parameters(mag size, recoil, MoA, damage) to the extremes keep the variety diverse and meaningful. This SMG is an Adjudicator side-grade that instead of being a jack-of-all-trades is the best burst damage you can get from a ballistic automatic primary but only within a 20 meter effective range. Kind of reminds me of planetside 2 SMGs being better than shotguns at room-distance fights as opposed to CQC-distance fights. But unless you are playing against terminids you hardly get any room-distance fights.

[@windex527]

Idk what you guys are talking about, I have no issues using it as a far, far superior Adjudicator against bots. Which honestly annoys me since I quite like the Adjudicator, despite it's rather poor performance.

[@johannhawk8471]

@@windex527 🤔i should try it out again with the AMR or AC against bots and not just against bugs. Run AMR/AC as my main weapon and the Reprimand as the "delete automaton intruders within 20 meters" stick.

[@fringehouse]

the Purifier became my favorite primary in the game for both factions. absolutely incredible and versatile weapon. I swap between the Purifier and the Crossbow depending on my loadout. When I want to destroy whatever enemy is in front of me quickly without blowing the whole mag I charge a shot then rapid fire after I release the charge for that massive initial burst damage. I mainly use the charge shot so ammo wise it’s incredibly ammo efficient and you can take out a ton of enemies before reloading

[@fpteamkvitka6223]

Nah you did the sickle dirty

[@stormhought]

Halt in B-tier is crazy. Instant stalker and charger stopper, and a higher damage medium penetration than the slugger all in one gun makes it S-tier in my eyes.

[@bobzthabarbarian]

Tier lists are mostly just opinion based ranking. But, it can be something good for people, especially someone new to refer to.

[@samwild6630]

It also only has slightly less damage than the regular punisher. It has less damage drop off from light armoured enemies and can deal with medium from the front. I don't really use the stun rounds, when it can just kill bugs in a couple of shots anyway.

[@alternateaccounts5134]

​​@@samwild6630 stun is used when you need to get an enemy OFF you examples include: berserkers, charging alpha commanders and their warriors, *stalkers,* anything that charges you. It's definitely more applicable to bugs since some can death charge/momentum from just before they die still gets you

[@samwild6630]

@alternateaccounts5134 yeah I understand, I still generally prefer to just stop them dead and kite

[@ghoulbuster1]

lol nah

[@samwild6630]

This is a great list. The reprimand really needs to be used in first person, the recoil is a lot more manageable imo. Its very strong against bots. Fully agree with you that the primaries are in a great spot, there are some like the knight which lag behind, but most have their spot where they excel. Fingers crossed we get stripper clip reloads for the constitution!

[@kenethernandez6246]

Finally someone that gives the scorcher the respect it deserves. Ive seen so many people talk bad about this gun due to how quickly it consumes ammo but it's an absolute monster when it comes to dps and the full auto is very nice as well. I like to pair it with a supply pack to refill my ammo and I just spam every enemy that crosses my screen. It's so powerful and fun to use. Something you didn't mention is how quickly it kills impalers and how good it is even at destroying spore towers and shrieker nests. Plus it just demolishes almost everything on the bot side as well. Just a beast all around.

[@jackbernard484]

Definitely needs supply pack unless your playing solo and can keep calling in re-supplies all for yourself. Thats the only negative it has whereas the plasma purifier imo doesnt need a supply pack so you can run a different backpack which imo makes it even better!

[@drag0nmancer]

Pair the SG-Halt with the Gundog and its an amazing combo, particularly on bugs where you can stun groups and then have your drone mop them up, and if need be you can kill with your flechettes. that said, on bots it still performs well but you might want to take the shield or supply backpack instead. but the gundog still does a good job supporting you on bots.

[@donovanjoseph737]

The stun rounds in general are incredible. You can stun an entire group of bugs and use a flamethrower to cook them where they stand, or shoot a heavy devastator and make them drop their shield and follow up with a different weapon or flechette meatshot.

[@kozlowskinator6056]

One big advantage of the sickle I think you may have glossed over is it has a 100m scope on it, so despite the poor accuracy you can use it like a sniper rifle. You're not really wasting any shots like this either, it has infinite ammo after all. Being able to apply suppression against bots with it is why I often run it against them. Pair it with the AMR and you have this weird long range build that won't immediately cause you to die if something runs up close to you.

[@rickynicky4443]

The entire intro up until 0:22 is completely correct, and it baffles me how arrowhead didn’t realize that for so long. Luckily, they know now:)

[@HeldiversTemplar]

The Templar Division can wield all weapons effectively except the constitution rifle

[@nothanks6290]

Love the vid, would you ever make a vid ranking orbitals and eagle stratagems? Theres so many videos out there on it, most of them regurgitating the same thing, (500kg, laser and rail cannon lol) but I feel like you would have some great insight when it comes to some of the far underrated ones like orbital precision, straffing run and gattling barrage. Keep doing what your doing, love the content

[@DrPooplove]

@@nothanks6290 thank you and yeah I definitely would like to get to just about everything in the game eventually

[@evanwilliams1839]

Niche comment on the liberator carbine against the bots. Its recoil becomes much more manageable if you stop and crouch, granted this is dangerous in the open it shines in the close quarters of bot bases like stratagem jammers since it lets you rapidly destroy most anything youll find there.

[@andrewstambaugh240]

*Keep tier lists ranked for viability.* It's a good thing we have a lot of better weapons right now. Even the addition of 1 or 2 enemies or a different faction completely changes some weapons to painful at high difficulty. *Knowing that i have something almost as good is helpful.*

[@fainyance11]

The Torchers is exceptionally well against bugs if you make a specialized flame build for it and use your support weapon slot for anti armor

[@biggswigg2613]

The Halt has been an amazing primary to use with an Arc Thrower/Guard Dog setup. If allies are too close to targets to feel safe throwing some lightning, switch to the halt and give the enemy a really tight spread of flechettes or if they get in trouble a stun shell can bail them out.

[@JoshuaTarvin]

Finally, someone who appreciates the Adjudicator as much as I do. This is my main primary for bugs and bots. As long as you're running reduced recoil armor passive, it's a freaking beast. The Reprimand has replaced it for the most part, but I think I'll switch back to Adjudicator for bugs just because of the magazine capacity alone. Anyways, thanks for having some sense unlike those other uncultured swines! 😂

[@nathandias6771]

The thing I love the most about the new buffs is that I can constantly change my loadouts without fear of dragging the team

[@JakeGarner-p6q]

This vid had been one of the most accurate! Thank you citizen of super earth

[@JakeGarner-p6q]

Bro I love the fact that u def enjoy making these vids and I will watch all of them. Also found it great that u had made a list for bots and bugs 🐛

[@JakeGarner-p6q]

W

[@charlesleverette2479]

Treating the reprimand as a marksman rifle while it has a bloom stat of 50 is crazy

[@mllerrah666]

What I love about the Reprimand, and what makes it my favorite gun against Bots, is that the recoil is significantly less noticeable than the Adjudicator, since its fire rate is lower. That allows for more consistent mag-dumping scenarios in the case of being rushed by a lot of Berserkers.

[@cplconfusion4651]

Just wanna say I really appreciated your ranking vids.

[@DrPooplove]

Thanks! They are fun to make!

[@benparfittvideo]

I don't agree with every summary, but then I guess it would be odd if I did! Great work sir - has given some great loadout ideas. Thanks mate x

[@NL-Chaos]

Thanks for the video its of great help for me as a returning player, also made the tier list with timestamps so people can more easy find things as that last picture in the video doesnt show names of the guns and therefore no new or returning players know what weapon is what.

[@thearchivist250]

Great tier list. No notes. I still prefer the Eruptor over the crossbow because of the super range, even if objectively the crossbow is better. I really dig the new SMG. It feels powerful and hefty.

[@safleishman]

The crossbow has higher range than the Eruptor. Shots from the Eruptor explode at 125m whereas shots from the crossbow can go as far as you can arc the projectile

[@thearchivist250]

@@safleishmanit has no scope and arcing the grenades is annoying. The crossbow doesn’t have the shrapnel

[@safleishman]

@@thearchivist250 true. Both arc to an extent, but you can get used to it if you want to. To each their own. I was just saying the crossbow in fact has a higher possible range since it doesn't automatically explode at a max distance- it'll keep going until it hits something (though it's worth being aware that shots at an extreme angle might ricochet)

[@j.s.matthews2216]

Punisher is my absolute favorite. The stagger effect is so huge and its great at clearing out clusters of enemies. It's just so solid paired with a great support weapon.

[@brian130]

Keep making Factions content! There's a huge influx of new players who probably aren't finding your videos

[@JeancarlosRPerez]

Im liking your updated tier list and re-re thing xD Quick thought popped up. If the Iluminate do come next year, imagine how long your vides will get needing 3 WHOLE tier list going forward. 🎉

[@flow89-v6j]

Thanks Dr Poop, you always tell me what to throw my mon erm what excellent guns I should unlock next. I like your videos, your style and you. Thanks bro

[@tuni5630]

Please do a primary weapon ranking. Been waiting for 1 hour

[@jackbernard484]

Thats exactly what hes done no?

[@homelessskittle1758]

Hey, quick tip for bile spewers: If you have medium armor pen or higher, you can shoot their head for a MUCH faster kill. Only 3-4 shots with something like the Reprimand

[@Definitely4lex]

Great vid, want to weigh in to support the knight smg. While yes the real money cost is a huge L... for me it's been a no brainer pick up. The dps it can pump out while being 1 handed is excellent, being able to half mag dump a stalker in a pinch is a great utility and that's not even it's best feature... the RELOAD SPEED! For anyone using an AR/SMG on the bug front you'll know what i mean reload speed makes or breaks these guns (looking at you reprimand... goddamn that takes 3 business days to reload) and the knight might have the best uptime of any full auto, while still maintaining a really strong dps. Highly recommend.

[@jackbernard484]

I tried it recently with a support pack and its was good i feel like i need to use it more

[@lordhelmchen3154]

The Halt is honestly my new favourite weapon againts bugs. It's a utility and support weapon, so yes, on its own it obviously does less damage than other weapons and if you don't have a Guard Dog, you run out of ammo fast... but that just means you should use it with *teamwork.* It just feels so good to stun a Charger for your teammate to get a good RR shot, or stunning enemy hordes (the bullet spread is perfect for this) to let your teammate incinerate them with the flamethrower whereas he would have been overrun without your stun. And the flechettes having medium armor penetration makes it good against hive guards and so on, so you still make a good impact in combat. Let your teammates with horde clear weapons take care of the one million hunters and scavengers around you. And the best feeling: Stunning a Stalker, then either executing it from close range with the flechette or having your teammates gun it down without issue. The Halt makes the most stressfull and dangerous enemy in the game into glorified target practice.

[@everfreesnarrations35]

A few notes with the new stun shotgun that you might have missed. You can stun Chargers from the front, you just have to shoot them in the mouth, or underneath them. Another thing with the charger turning around after you shot them in the butt, that's a bug and has been around for a long time, it also happens with stun grenades which is really annoying 😢 As with the rocket striders, if you shoot this stun round into the actual Rockets themselves, it will stun them. The stun will last just as long as the stun grenade's stun duration, roughly about 6 seconds. For me, I tend to use more combat oriented support weapons, like the sniper rifle, or the medium or heavy machine gun. So the stunning effect comes in great When it comes to self-defense at close range, and then finishing them off with a bigger weapon. Great video! Keep up the great work!

[@DrPooplove]

I gotta try that for the charger!

[@youcantrustmem8]

Honestly I agree with not wanting the constitution changed aside from maybe stripper clips cause even helldivers of old should have had those but also a different bolt action rifle whos damage and armor pen being somewhere between the Senetor and the anti-material rifle would be cool

[@Crispy_DAWG]

I recommend rebinding the swap weapon configuration right from right on the d pad to X and make it “press” but leave the square button on long press to open the menu to make swapping ammo so much easier on the Halt shotgun and even the auto cannon. It’s pretty fast this way without messing up any interactions.

[@tepkisiz]

I mostly agree with your list, great work mate. This video is awesome for beginners.I also think most weapons are pretty fun but ARs and smgs need a bit more dmg in general for me to take them over others.

[@andrewstambaugh240]

I think it's worth mentioning, the sythe is better on lower difficulty bug missions. As the mobs become multitudes, it struggles for heat. But below that, it has range, kills the lvl2's decently fast, but kills spewers significantly faster than the cookout that gets so much love. For instance, facing 2 spewers with cookout means you better gave something better to deal with them, or you will be running and running for a long while. The sythe let's you cook one, switch to whatever to pop some other enemies, then cook the other. That protects your teammates and you can even do it from quite a range away. So it makes a better flanking team support weapon vs shotgunners running into the fray then needing the support. The 2 person combo (shotgunner + laser cooker) works well imo.

[@refahankan3276]

Bug S weapon: SG-21 Cookout, Breaker Incendiary Shotgun, Crossbow Explosive, Scorcher Energy, Purifier Energy Robot S Weapon: Crossbow Explosive, Scorcher Energy, Purifier Energy, Dominator Special

[@theoozemen3646]

This was super helpful, I'm pretty new and I'll be honest idk wtf I'm doing and what im doing is not well explained and a buddy just threw me in a max level mission and everything was blowing up or on fire and i spent the majority of the time running around like a headless chicken before blowing up

[@jonasweber9408]

@45:40 this bug was shot into eternity for freedom! 😂

[@ShyDeath]

my only problem with exploding crossbow is that, the firerate is a bit too slow to handle the med armor bot patrol. without ballistic shield, you will take damage and flinch, make it harder to follow up. It doesn't have to be grenade launcher level of fire rate, just a bit faster, then it will be better. but what can we complain? it is still 1000% better then it used to be. Guess I just need to be used to it.

[@glimmer6819]

Imaculate drip my dude. Would be so glad if they changed the armor system though...

[@DrPooplove]

Yeah I wish armor passives could be transferred to other outfits. Even though they said they won't I think they will eventually

[@mawnkey]

Perks should be acquired by buying certain armors so their current system can continue to work, but yeah you need to be able to select two perks regardless of which armor you're wearing. There's so many armor sets I like the aesthetics for but can't justify using because there's like... 3 perks worth using at all.

[@glimmer6819]

@@mawnkey Also a loadout system. THAT would be something.

[@mawnkey]

@@glimmer6819 ​ That's one's more of an "Eight years in development and it never once occurred to any of you that a diversity of armor, weapons, and strategems means a loadout system is a no-brainer?" type of thing.

[@LordRazer3]

A few tips for a weapon that feels weak (its not) and for the new shotgun they are combo weapons that do vary well when paired with other things and both completely counter stalkers. Liberator concussive pairs will with the guard dog. You just keep the enemy from getting to close and the guard dog makes quick work. More so now that it has medium pen and hits harder. The liberator concussive actually has another combo that I figured out a few days ago and that's pairing it with the jet pack and arc thrower while bringing turrets to help you out with the big things. Not that the arc thrower is going to be your main damage dealer but the concussive helps with keeping things off you when they get to close or to help allies if your a nice person. The whole thing revolves of controlling everything and giving you pack enough time to recharge. The new Halt is also a good combo weapon to the point its vary silly once you know how it mostly works. It only applies if the pellets deal FULL damage and the more pellets that land the faster an enemy will be stunned -the type you are hitting. It might even have a stacking effect but I don't know yet. As for damage you are not the one doing it. That's your turrets! Yes turrets and I recommend just going all out while bringing a launcher of some kind to deal with titans. Id say the small gun with the short cool down and both the auto cannon and rocket turret. No do not use all of them at the same time unless your doing an objective. The small one should always be up for any breach because its cool down is shorter then the one for bug breaches and the other 2 are there for bigger targets.

[@manray005]

A new build I have been trying that is now my mainstay for bugs is the Flam-66 Torcher, Plas-15 loyalist, Frag grenade and the recoilless launcher. The ability to have flames and heavy anti-tank is awesome.

[@isaack8967]

The grazing shots you are experiencing on the slugger might be because the slugger fires slugs, which are single-shot ammunition that have no spread. I might be wrong but in the clips where you are shooting it it looks like you are shooting it off to the side expecting it to hit multiple enemies, when it only fires off one round.

[@bradenhagen7977]

The Concusive, while doing less damage, somehow one shots the fliers. Niche, but super helpful.

[@spin8453]

If the constitution marksman had heavy armor penetration it would be goated

[@Garnerian]

Love the drip, your helldivers fit goes hard. 10/10

[@krasykay2294]

Regular diligence doesn't knock devestators around like the counter does, allowing for accurate followup shots if you miss. In fact they don't even notice the rounds plinking off their armor if you miss and they haven't detected you

[@peterpanda4296]

Halt Shotgun is absolute S-Tier for Bugs, just use the flachete most of the time, i just use the stun rounds for stopping stalkers to throw me around, or for chargers (and yes u can stun them with one or two shots from the front). It goes really well together with the Liberator guard Dog. You will shred to everything but Chargers or Bile Titans.

[@Vinlegren]

I love the Reprimand, but the problem I have with it is that, like you said, it feels like a higher damage adjudicator that you have to treat like a marksman rifle. Except, it has one of the worst accuracy values for a primary in the game, so it is very difficult to actually hit those precision headshots on bots unless you are at very close range. The low accuracy means that a lot of times getting those headshots on devastators at medium range is just random chance, even if your aim is on point. I understand that they had to balance it to not overshadow other primaries, but I think it wouldn't be too OP if they buffed the accuracy a bit for this weapon.

[@Jaster618]

You should do the best primary + secondary tier list. That would be a great, yet long video.

[@theorangeninja6486]

I'm glad to see some punisher love, all of my friends are breakerheads and i keep trying to sell it to them

[@Vercuric]

The Diligence CS I think depends on whether you're on a gamepad or M+KB. On PC, it's my personal S-tier for automatons; I prefer it over the JAR-5 Dominator.. With the CS, you can actually 2-shot berserkers to the glowing red gut. For other devastators I think it's 3 or 4, but it's not hard to take out several devastators with one mag even if you aren't popping headshots (which is particularly fun to do at the start of the engagements when they're still "scanning" and standing still). The CS also can take out gunship engines in about 10 shots, less than a mag, as long as you hit the same engine each time. And for Hulks at a distance, if you can see their back vents, you can go prone to minimize recoil, mag dump and blow them up before they can turn around all from a very safe distance away. I typically pair the CS with a Recoilless Rifle support weapon for long-range instant Fabricator, Hulk, Tank, Factory Strider and Dropship annihilation. Of course all that is much harder to do on a gamepad vs. M+KB. On a gamepad, I'd agree the JAR-5 is the better choice.

[@NemoWasHere]

The casual “Dr Pooplove here~” caught me off guard

[@Glocky_plays]

What name will this videos have after year: re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-ranking

[@BAC220]

Personally use the diligence counter sniper as my main primary, having a supply pack and using some well placed shots helps even out the lower magazine size. Top it off with a secondary grenade launcher (occasionally the bushwhacker) and impacts, helps with controlling the minor enemies , leaving those medium to heavier enemies to either my primary or the rail-rifle.

[@IsraelN626]

The crossbow with the ballistic shield against the bots.....dude....its amazingly amazing. I love giving those sheild devastators a taste of there own medicine 💊

[@who_be_dis8356]

My only problem with The Tenderizer is that it feels like it needs a mag size buff for the roll it's trying to accomplish. That combined with the low mag count in general, it makes me feel like I'm sort of always running out of ammo even if I'm being conservative with it.

[@MilkyWrath]

i wish it had at least 10 more rounds in the mag

[@FrenchThottyAmelia]

Then it would just be a better liberator

[@dr.narwhalmd4885]

Im not gonna lie, the breaker spray and pray to me is just the best primary in general. It absolutely pulps the bugs, and while it does do a bit worse against bots and illuminates now, it has the necessary mag size to just constantly dump more bullets into whatever you need to beat. With 32 shots per mag and 8 (or 11 with armor) mags to use, i literally never run out before finding ammo or getting a resupply back.

[@enzodallapiazza8968]

Top 3 helldivers creator, love this guy

[@homebredkalus1420]

Heavily agree about the Reprimand against the bots; def feels like a gun you shouldn't use at past mid range or in full auto, and I'm cool with that. I think some of the people saying it's dogshit exclusively stuck to full auto vs the bots and still tried fighting outside of its range (I agree with people saying the spread sucks though, which is why I stick to semi-auto for bots and burst for bugs). Though tbh I kinda feel like it should've been labeled as rifle not an smg as imo it doesn't even irl "standards" of smgs, aside from the recoil bit (even then, carbines exist and aren't classified as smgs; iirc only things really making an smg a smg irl is the pistol ammo and some of the ergonomics). In game though, it would've been cool to one hand it; would've reminded me of being able to dual wield UMPs in MW2 (Arrowhead please add dual wieldable weapons thatd be so fun idc if it'd be useless for mid-long range).

[@FelisImpurrator]

What the hell. Purifier can shred heat vents that fast? Today I learned just how ridiculous the thing's glow-up was. Wild. Torcher's definitely a monster against bugs though. That needs to be S tier on them because burning the ground is like having an infinite supply of eagle napalms on hand.

[@D-S-G.]

Now that the buff updates are done, we really get to see how many weapons are viable. A and S are all great picks, while B and C are still good enough. Theres like 2 or 3 more primaries I think need buffs and thats good.

[@Tiberius_jackal]

I actually have great success using the knight against robots being able to kill devastators with ease using the burst fire aiming towards their heads, its really good against bots in burst fire altho a tad ammo heavy since each burst will kill, ballistics shields is reccomended if you struggle keeping up with dodging the enemy fire