React State Management In a GraphQL Era - Kitze

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#React State Management In a GraphQL Era
Now that GraphQL takes care of managing data in our apps, is an external state-management library even needed? Let's explore all the possibilities and compare the combinations of React, Apollo, Redux, MobX, and Next.js.
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[@nubl3718]

Usually when developers try to "do comedy" it just results in utter cringe, but this was actually pretty decent, fair play.

[@HugoGrochau]

This was one of the most entertaining talks I've watched in a while. Great work!

[@eduardoverdeja9596]

Ainda não vi o vídeo, mas curti te ver aqui :)

[@jorge28624]

9:56 people there almost got a hearth attack lol

[@diogoaugustooliveira8975]

One of the best talks that I watched! Sound so simple and objective ! People always try to make things complicated than it is

[@talltk]

Wow! This was mighty informative and entertaining! Just starting out a new project with React and GraphQL and was thinking if I needed Redux.

[@rautanenolavi]

19:00 - the random urge to raise hand while eating lunch.

[@betocantu93]

This is a great talk. I mainly use emberjs and we often use apollo (via ember-apollo) instead of ember-data... But I like to keep up with React, so accurate your talk specially around ~20:00+ congratulations and thanks for sharing!

[@drcphd]

Most people who have opinions about REST have no idea what REST is. Too many GraphQL presentations/articles starts with a incorrect definition of REST.

[@jackmaison4209]

What is the "right" denfinition for REST?

[@drcphd]

@@jackmaison4209 You can search for Roy Fielding's dissertation in which he defines the concept: Architectural Styles and the Design of Network-based Software Architectures

[@jackmaison4209]

@@drcphd I'll do so. Thank you.

[@nikosc]

12:52 Do you need state management library with GraphQL?

[@lucasquinnlife]

Tell you guys a story. I'm a Chinese grad student, and I'm using VPN to bypass GFW to learn fancy technologies like like server-side rendering, caches, PWA etc. I thought they are fantanstic, really. But one day, I opened a Chinese website, and I was amazed why it was super fast. I found it using only one JS dependency, guess what, jQuery. In China, 99.9% websites' technologies are way behind western websites', and most of them are still using PHP and jQuery. One day, I saw svelte 3 released, the title called "rethink framework". Suddenly, I found we are backing the old times. Yes, PHP is server-side rendering, and jQuery is only 90 KB, super fast, and it could be natively opened in IE8. All fancy stuff is just we thought we are advanced, but in fact, we introduced too much dependencies, way slow and boring, pure CSS make things way faster, not heavy JS/CSS frameworks. Developers , employees and users, none of them care about perfermance, since their pages are natively super fast and "server-side rendering". They care about user experience, they usually talk with users, they've already made tons of money. But in western world, I could say 90% websites are more advanced than those in China, but they are not earning money at all. Every developers and teams are worrying technologies. Really, guys, I think there is something wrong, it's over-engineering. Just do it. You think too much unnecessary.

[@matthiaslangbart9841]

tl;dr: In China people are all about serving their customers, whereas in our western world (Germany in my case) people are all about bragging about their "expertise" in "cutting edge technologies".

[@joshuarowe8410]

Depends on the complexity of the site. If it's mostly just static or a basic webapp then definitely agree, however, if it's a complex webapp then a framework or something more complex may be necessary

[@luisponce3580]

Great awesome talk! I 100% agree on the 'do what feels right' philosophy!

[@kps2642]

Great talk, one of the best I've watched

[@kafin3504]

so u dont need state management in graphql?

[@codecenter1816]

Awesome talk! Anyone know the song at the end?

[@Salfie007]

‘Be aware of the context and pick wisely.’ Half an hour saved.

[@effmerunning]

midlarge to large use redux. global. small to medium..nothing fancy wrap it in context

[@abdallahmoubarak5303]

the first like I do ever on KZbin, since 10 years

[@berbudy]

20:31 So much agree to this

[@isaacgorman6498]

"what did I do for the users today, not for my own dev satisfaction ?" - kr

[@michielvanroon3015]

amazing talk, cheers Kristijan

[@fedor_U]

First impression - useless , amateur and empty. I'm the senior dev, boy, respect that. On the second though - it was inspiring. It is up to date. It may drive you right way and help you stop being overengineer working overnight. Thanks.

[@lt4_]

Really enjoyed this talk, it was entertaining and insightful! 👏

[@whiteadi]

most fun and even useful talk ;)

[@sharathcv]

He needs to give a time gap for people to laugh :)

[@bryanb7147]

fuck i can relate to this, thanks a lot for the talk.

[@chelinemagsano6185]

I hate when people say "just use x...." 😑

[@lispcodinglive]

I have been thinking about a NoWebFramework movement in the spirit of the NoSQL movement. Thanks for the encouragement. Now I just have to find a shorter name.

[@morenoh149]

Ken Tilton sql powers business. Think of the customer.

[@efreitorhabibulin238]

I like his jokes, they are funny coz they are true xDDDDD

[@Thomas-zx4uk]

Best talk ever

[@sky_kryst]

I can finally say *Funniest shit I've ever seen*

[@jboxy]

he funny

[@sidsarasvati]

bad advice

[@edorourke9223]

It's official - older people are now the only group in society it's OK to ridicule. Imagine that...a senior person writing code! Hilarious! Look at the funny picture of the old man at the computer. Anyway...that's where I quit watching this. Really disrespectful, and frankly, a little arrogant.

[@masudosman6543]

whyyyy so serious?!!