Reacting to Homophobic Parents

A homophobic family member, attempted conversion therapy, and an anti-feminist father - these are some VERY entitled parents.
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[@Jammidodger]

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[@deska9985]

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[@2a2777f2g]

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[@patrickghenry100]

So ... Let me see if I got this "straight" ... No pun intended "... You're saying that parents are trying to... "Cure your gay ness" ... No not really... If my child were a "kleptomaniac" ... something the creator of all things says was wrong .. IE; "a sin against said Creator" and as a Parent who has, lived longer, experienced the consequences of going against the rules/laws of the Creator and said parents loved and cared about the child and they're future. Knowing that the child is on a road of destruction..." Would it be wrong for the parents to lovingly warn the child that the klefto live style is ultimately going to bring them punishment from the One that created both everyone and every Law of our universe literally runs smoothly on and that brings life or death? In the commandments/laws/rules God relays to us He has a GOOD reason for them. ("Thou shalt Not Steal") Has many connotations connected to it and it's for everyone's GOOD. Same is true for all of God's Rules.. and if I Really love my children I would teach them this truth and as many other truths as I possibly could so they could prosper in life as well as those around them. Oh yeah and BTW.. Honor your father and your mother is amongst the many laws/rules God created for Good reason. Are you teaching for this...or ..are you teaching against it?

[@patrickghenry100]

So ... Let me see if I got this "straight" ... No pun intended "... You're saying that parents are trying to... "Cure your gay ness" ... No not really... If my child were a "kleptomaniac" ... something the creator of all things says was wrong .. IE; "a sin against said Creator" and as a Parent who has, lived longer, experienced the consequences of going against the rules/laws of the Creator and said parents loved and cared about the child and they're future. Knowing that the child is on a road of destruction..." Would it be wrong for the parents to lovingly warn the child that the klefto live style is ultimately going to bring them punishment from the One that created both everyone and every Law of our universe literally runs smoothly on and that brings life or death? In the commandments/laws/rules God relays to us He has a GOOD reason for them. ("Thou shalt Not Steal") Has many connotations connected to it and it's for everyone's GOOD. Same is true for all of God's Rules.. and if I Really love my children I would teach them this truth and as many other truths as I possibly could so they could prosper in life as well as those around them. Oh yeah and BTW.. Honor your father and your mother is amongst the many laws/rules God created for Good reason. Are you teaching for this...or ..are you teaching against it?

[@xXAnthony619Xx]

I need you to pretty please react to Elon's terrifying interview with Jordan Peterson about his child transitioning.

[@spenceduggs]

As someone who was sent to a Mormon bishop to "pray away sinful thoughts" as a queer teen, I'm proud to say that I'm now free of that horrible burden on my heart as an adult! I'm no longer Mormon! 😃

[@_Unoffical_Norahhh_]

Hell yeah! Congratulations!

[@pipi-caca]

I still have to wait 5/6 years to leave 🫡

[@Stormyyyy...]

@@pipi-caca good luck..

[@dawn8293]

Congrats! I'm ex-Mormon, too! I'm so sorry that you had to experience that homophobic religious pressure before you got out.

[@CatlovingNB]

Had us in the first half not gonna lie

[@RosemaryAmey]

The dad who "protected" his daughter from all boys and men growing up, then expected her as an adult to focus her life on finding, marrying, pleasing, and making babies with a man wasn't protecting her, he was protecting her virginity to increase her "value" to the kind of man he expects her to marry. He doesn't see her as a person at all, IMHO.

[@Sly-Moose]

Him: I want to protect your purity so you can be mistreated by your future husband who I expect to be exactly like me. 💀

[@Nic0Dr4ws]

I agree, not allowing her to ever hang out with boys and stuff like that is just going to get her in more trouble socially and get her in more toxic relationships since she won’t have any past experience to base these things off of. Keep the kids ignorant because they’re easier to manipulate, type of thing

[@waffles3629]

Yep. My whole life I heard "No sex before marriage, no sex before marriage, no...." then I turned 18, was single and suddenly "So when are the grandkids coming?". When I said "When I'm stable enough to adopt" I was greeted back with "Sex isn't that bad". 😳 Uh, WHAT??? Like firstly, I just said adopting, and secondly, that soooo doesn't sell it. Like "Wanna try my pie? It's not that bad". Uh no, I'll pass. As far as they know I'm still single, and they kept up requesting grandkids until I evicted my uterus.

[@Silentgrace11]

@@waffles3629 Just wanted to say I love the phrase "evicted my uterus" 😂 I'm going to have to use that

[@kittysunlover]

Came here to say this - he wasn't protecting a daughter, he was protecting a possession.

[@graybaumann3195]

It’s funny how my mother is a (backhand) homophobe/transphobe. When I came out as a lesbian when I was 16, I was told “not be butch” since she wanted me to be femme….. now at 23, I’m a trans man. I love the unintended backfire. My father was the most confused about me being lgbtq+ (he once asked if he made me gay by not being in my life as much due to being in the military) but now he’s one of my biggest supporters. He calls me his son and even wished me a happy Father’s Day (I’m the proud “dad” to my 2 cats).

[@tinker651]

This gave me the wholesome feels. ❤ It's hard to grasp ANYTHING for a lot of people if they don't personally experience it. So for him to have a genuine question then turn to full support, makes me warm, fuzzy and hopeful 😊

[@consciouscode8150]

hehe cat dad

[@dietotaku]

YOU: "mom i like girls" YOUR MOM: "well you're a lady so you better act like one" YOU: "so about that..."

[@user-jl8xh6px2j]

W dad

[@lrkeribergaard6110]

hehehehe

[@JoULove]

OP: "I'm aro/ace!" Them: "let's cure your homosexuality!" OP: "I'm not- that's not- Okay 😬"

[@tylerbailey9329]

The braindeadness of homophobes knows no bounds

[@natalie022]

What I’m scared of That and “you’ll find someone!”

[@Em1_ReN]

“You’ll grow out of it! youre just young and dumb!”

[@natalie022]

@@Em1_ReN my last 20 years of life havent lied

[@siobhanharte5075]

I am so glad your generation is more educated and open minded than mine. Hope for the future generations ❤

[@Felixx-wv1fy]

Having transphobic and homophobic parents is a nightmare especially when you're a minor but rememher that it gets better

[@prueidki694]

This is something my niece is going to be growing up with. And I am being thrown out cause I tried to answer her question about why I was wearing a dress and she thought I was a boy.

[@evesyoutube3020]

yeah hopefuly

[@ThatFont]

I figured out how to live on my own and went no contact with my parents and life has never been better. The last time I gave in and talked to them, gave them a second chance, they berated me/called me slurs and further confirmed that it was the best decision I ever made.

[@evesyoutube3020]

@@ThatFont i have decided that a long time ago

[@prueidki694]

@@toxicbavariankitten thats been the same for me too, I was forced to move back in with them

[@B3DH3ADcartoons]

One time a kid who was really annoying in my Bio class (always trying to copy my homework, tried to grab my lab when I wouldn't let him copy my work, expected answers even when he didn't know my name) and one day he said (clearly mockingly) "aRe yOu tRaNs oR sOmeThiNg" so I looked at him dead in the eye and said "Yeah." He was dead silent for the rest of the year.

[@ErinBeanz]

Respect, I wish I had that courage

[@ThePkmnYPerson]

What? You didn't let him copy your answers so he asked if you're trans? That's a new one.

[@pipi-caca]

That's hilarious 😭

[@robo1513]

@@ThePkmnYPerson people like that think every problem in their life is trans people's faults

[@CatlovingNB]

R/tramatizethemback?

[@JamesTheNonbinaryKing2]

Yeah a boy at school came in one day with a shirt that says “they’re is only two genderz” spelling mistakes and all. He was given dress coded for violating the rule about having no clothes that is offensive to a minority and he said that he was “being oppressed”🤡. It was just a day in the life of a trans teen (me)

[@nicholashoward971]

What I can't be a bigot against trans people? Then I'm oppressed.-🤡

[@dragonluvver975]

Pretending to spell it wrong is super ironic lol

[@JamesTheNonbinaryKing2]

@@dragonluvver975 I’m not sure he meant to spell it wrong. He’s kind of a 🤡

[@DanYL2009]

Your username is amazing I love it so much

[@JamesTheNonbinaryKing2]

@@DanYL2009 thanks🥰

[@wes643]

The dad wasn’t protecting his daughter. He was protecting her “virginity”.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

He was protecting what he considered his doll 🎎. Something to be cared for, but never loved.

[@smolapril]

excuse me, I need throw up 🤮🤮🤮 some people don't deserve to be parents

[@Brainless6969]

D-o-l-l-h-o-u-s-e ​@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

[@just_a_dude75]

Virginity is not truly important toa person

[@Nakedsnake36]

He’s protecting her from STD

[@Freya_wins]

I came out to my mom as trans female when i was 16 in 2007. She didn’t say or do anything other than "ok". Then 1 week later she leaves work early and picks me up from school early and takes me to see a Christian therapist (who was also the wife of the church pastor) and had me scheduled to see this lady once a week up until I tried to take my own life after 6 months of this. At the psych hospital I told the doctor what was happening at home and he ended up contacting cps on my mom for child abuse. This was in California by the way. After 3 weeks in the hospital I was released and sent home. My mom didn't force me to go to that therapist again anymore but essentially stopped careing for my needs. At that point I was spending most of my time at my best friends house, where I was accepted right away. After I turned 18 I left and never looked back. Currently my best friend and I are still roommates and I've been living full time as female for the last 12 years.

[@missnaomi613]

I hope you know that you deserve only the best! 💙💗🤍💗💙

[@expertoflizardcorrugation3967]

im very happy that you had a supportive friend. everyone deserves support, and I'm sorry it didn't come from your mother

[@clarejean3309]

I’m glad that you have such a supportive friend! I’m sorry you had to deal with that. I came out during 2021 as a lesbian. I tried to date a boy one time but I hated it but didn’t realise that I was lesbian till then. Hope you’re doing all right now. 🩵 🩷 🤍 🩷 🩵

[@DragonMoonFNAF]

Your mother sounds horrible, I’m so sorry you went through that. I’m glad you’re doing well now, and I shall send virtual hugs to you. -Random trans guy on the internet lol

[@zakuraRabbit]

I always did wonder about the logic of parents who go "You're not allowed to even look at the opposite sex!" and then immediately ask why they're not married at 20. Married to who dad?

[@11Ohno111]

As a Gay Trans man, I was like- "No men?- What if I just *Becomes The Man* There, better, now I can't look at women, what a pain! *Glances at the stereotypical E-boy* ...Shit, well- When Life gives you lemons, you gotta take 'em right?

[@Sly-Moose]

Fakkin Aqua Man!?

[@John_Weiss]

And then they go all surprised Pikachu face if/when the kid comes out as gay.

[@angelcaru]

What do they think a partner is gonna make their child? Happy?!? Is that so bad?

[@mrsplays9817]

And then if the child winds up gay/lesbian the parents complain even more! There's no pleasing them.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I remember Katya saying something that really said something that stuck to me. They pointed at their drag look and said: “What about this incites violence?”

[@nutella7162]

And those kind of people will have a lot to say what incites violence...which is really heckin sad.

[@just_a_dude75]

Its from men and other concervatives who think women and femininity are a terrible concept

[@forgottenartform]

That last story gave me flashbacks to being a child (around 10 years old at most) and my bio father saying if he ever found out I was gay he'd kill me and was blatantly homophobic. Stopped having contact with him at 11 and have been open about my sexuality but stuff like that stays with you even 21 years later. I hope those girls get out of that situation and heal

[@Nic0Dr4ws]

I completely agree, when I came out at 12 as trans IT DID NOT GO GOOD, my mom argued with me for months and even threatened to put me in foster care or send me to go live with my dad. And although she’s supportive now I still think about that period of time a lot

[@dietotaku]

the parents who forbid any opposite-sex interactions and then expect you to immediately get married upon reaching adulthood are operating from an arranged marriage mindset. underage: no one can touch you, you'll get pregnant outside of wedlock. of age: you have to get married IMMEDIATELY to the first available bachelor so that when you get pregnant it won't be out of wedlock. time to fulfill your duties as a woman and give yourself over to a man and start churning out babies for our lord! i guarantee if OP said anything to her dad about "i'm having trouble dating because i don't have any experience interacting with guys," her dad will have some guy he "knows from church" ready to propose on the first date.

[@dietotaku]

he's not protecting his child, he's protecting his property. and yes i hate that i automatically understand how these people think 😑

[@Astreious]

@@dietotakuI mean underaged sex is bad, but don’t be overprotective.

[@pamelamays4186]

I was raised by a Mom who was supportive of her children, no matter what, no matter how old they were. As a mom myself, I continue that tradition. I may not agree with all of the choices my children make, but I will never reject or try to "fix" them.

[@momamiandkiddokelsi9027]

Same here! My parents always supported me and loved me, now I do the same to my kiddo! Every time kiddo talks about the future they also include that they want to be a supportive parent ❤

[@merilynnshark6144]

Same. When I came out as trans to my parents, I don't necessarily think they took me seriously, but they didn't try to force me to be a way they wanted and instead let me figure it out on my own. My mom even helped out a bit when I was looking for an HRT clinic (she works for a blood bank) and is willing to listen about stuff.

[@supermangarritano6636]

I will never apologize to a bigot for them being a bigot ! 😂

[@nicholashoward971]

Never surrender to a bigot.

[@christopherb501]

_Perhaps_ if they're young and/or woefully ignorant, and they're not forceful; just in case there's _some_ chance of keeping them from getting worse. Most of the time, [vulgar F] that [feces].

[@evesyoutube3020]

never say never mahaha

[@consciouscode8150]

What if it was super passive aggressive like "I'm sorry [for you] I exist"?

[@independentpuppy7520]

I confronted a homophobic neighbour a few days ago. He didn't like it. Called me a woman hater, a racist, and a straight man hater. He was reeling off a ton of insults. I was left scratching my head thinking that isn't me at all. I decided hateful bigots are a waste of time talking to, and trying to educate. They just twist things around to make you the hater. Some people never learn. It was like speaking to someone in Victorian times. Yet he was another guy in his 20s.

[@user-rl9ml8wi3g]

I'm aro/ace and i feel for the guy in the first post, like damn, just like. Society is constantly pushing amatanormativity on us but your own parents? that's horrible. Also LGBT+ people are grooming children? Really? Edit: everyone should know how to cook it is a basic skill

[@BLZ231]

Honestly I’m a little jealous. I’m aro but not ace, though I wish I was, it would make life a lot easier. But yeah, agree with your comment.

[@WynneL]

Sure but like, they thought the person was homosexual when they're just plain not sexual at all. That's just especially ridiculous to me. Can they really be THAT stupid? I guess so, but I would've tried harder in order to avoid the nonsense.

[@John_Weiss]

The grooming accusation is projection, since _they_ are the ones who need to groom children into _their_ political and religious ideology.

[@Joetino]

I think at the first video, they should’ve at least explained “I never was gay in the first place. I literally don’t like anyone”.

[@just_tired701]

@@BLZ231 it does and it doesn't.

[@bapho-p]

Protective parents in these situations seldom feel genuinely protective. They just feel like a DM trying to railroad a party to a certain conclusion, but obviously much worse.

[@saltycrunch]

They are protective. But they're not protecting their daughters. They're protecting the patriarchy from which all men benefit. Girls, women, even their own daughters, are basically just tools to help men succeed and lead comfortable lives with easy access to sex, i.e. future male heirs.

[@jman12g73]

As a pastor’s kid I relate heavily to the first story. Having a dad that when I tried to come out he worded things in a way that let me know he wasn’t accepting. And when I finally got the courage to come out again years later he asked me to attend a bible study for “queer people” the person running said bible study said “the opening devotion may have some phrasing that sounds like conversion therapy but it makes some good points.” At that point I knew it wasn’t going to work.

[@Nic0Dr4ws]

That is a crazy thing to say💀 “ guys guys! I know this sounds like a trap but TRUST ME it’s not!” Kinda reminds me when I went to my moms church events and found a brochure type of thing with something similar, if I remember correctly I just ended up walking home. I’m not even religious I just like free food

[@jman12g73]

Free food is great motivator

[@WB0916]

I'm a Bisexual Female. My phone wallpaper used to be the Bi flag and my sister had seen it. Earlier today my mum was ranting about queer people(kind of homophobic) and my sister said that I "got the whole bisexual thing from Tiktok". I had a crush on my FEMALE teacher when I was 10 which was in 2016 BEFORE TIKTOK EVEN EXISTED. Nobody but me knows about said crush but since my sister said what she said, I've felt like shit. I feel really alone right now and I just don't know what to do anymore. I feel invalidated and broken. I try not to think about it but it is SO SO hard. Homophobia is a vile, vile thing and I'm sorry to anyone else who has to deal with it constantly.

[@lduker9731]

You are valid. You be you and try not let your sister get to you.

[@WB0916]

@@lduker9731 Thankyou🫶🏼 I'll try my best🙂

[@Roberto0_vr]

I'm a bi guy and I feel bad for you

[@just_tired701]

this kind of behavior is despicable. nobody should ever have to feel like they're invalid or broken for just being themselves. I wish you the best and hope that it does at least get better in some way.

[@WB0916]

@@just_tired701 Thankyou very much🥹🫶🏼

[@elaexplorer]

They're not protecting the woman for the woman's sake but they're protecting her to give her to another man. It comes from when daughters were sold to future mates, so the daughter is only as good as what price she can fetch from a potential mate

[@ilikecookies9796]

☝️💯

[@Sly-Moose]

🤮🤮

[@PokhrajRoy.]

1:52 “Okay, which sin are you talking about?” 💀

[@RoyaltyInTraining.]

Being gay is awesome, I don't get why anyone would want to "cure" it.

[@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith]

In short, Buy-Bull.

[@ADJvide0z]

Bisexuals love making money off of "curing" it, they made it an industry,

[@oreolaw9911]

When people really started trying to cure homosexuality it was common in most societies that everything should be uniform and everything that doesn't stay with inside the norm is bad. people couldn't just be allowed to be themselves they have to adapt to the social Norm they had to act in a way that was seen as appropriate , they had to do things that they didn't like just to be seen as upstanding individuals to the social group that they were a part of. those who tried to cure homosexuality saw themselves as good people trying to help Wayward Souls and bring them back into society because being your own individual was less important than fitting into the group modern people trying to cure gayness has a similar mentality to those in the past that group over individual that's why we see conversion therapy a lot in religious circles

[@pipi-caca]

I do however want a cure for my heterosexuality 😔

[@Stormyyyy...]

@@pipi-caca why?

[@PokhrajRoy.]

10:15 I can speak from my experience that this is peak South Asian family dynamics: The ‘No Boys!’ to ‘It’s ok if he just breathes, plz marry boy’ pipeline.

[@prageruwu69]

hello lgbt people, i am soon 1 month on t

[@Sebby.sprout]

Young trans guy over here, what’s it like :)

[@timothyisstupid]

Pretty epic

[@prageruwu69]

​@@Sebby.sproutit's pretty cool. i've noticed a few changes already and i've talked about it on my channel. i like that my voice has changed slightly already.

[@Sebby.sprout]

@@prageruwu69ooo that sounds pretty cool, I’ll check your channel out

[@JazniaDraw]

I'm so happy for you!!! I've seen you here on Jamie's comments a lot and for a while now I've seen you talking about getting T, so I'm glad you finally started! Hopefully someday I'll be able to start T too :] (tho idk if it's the right thing for me, but i wanna try microdosing at least)

[@tuuurtles]

it is one of the saddest things when parents abuse/torment their children. The people who should love them unconditionally, and be the ones go for support to =( And the worst part is that since the children are under age and have no place to escape to they feel trapped, hurt and scared.

[@cameragod1]

My son is a tansman and we love and support him... (and I possibly overshare how proud I am of him) The thing I find that gets annoying is other people saying "Oh that must have been so difficult for you as parents" but no! No it wasn't hard for us (except financially helping to pay for top surgery) it was a very natural thing and he makes so much sense as a boy. He is a wonderful young man and I am incredibly proud of him and what he is doing in his life. I feel very sad for parents who's bigotry is more important to them than their child.

[@jijitters]

Thank you for saying this

[@pskima4274]

Sadly not all parents can conceive such knowledge. People are diversity out there and it is meant to torn apart due to a huge difference in understanding or accepting. Humans can be stubborn to the core and nobody knows how evil can it be . Great that you appreciate God for whatever God gave in your household. Blessed you more .

[@lizf1353]

I LOVE you as a supportive parent but I've got to tell you honestly I was so confused when I read "my son is a tansman" I was like FUCK I'm a 37yr old cisgender lesbian and I've missed another term in our community 😮 it took me way longer than I would like to admit into reading your comment to realize it was meant to be "trans man" not "tansman" 😂 I'm definitely the idiot here 😂

[@cameragod1]

@@lizf1353 Sorry about that... If its any help my dyslexia does that to me all the time :)

[@lizf1353]

@@cameragod1 🥰

[@artheenbyrogue804]

My grandmother has been harassing me for being too weird since I dress masculine (I'm trans masc enby), also she's been saying I'm an embarrassment for stimming (I'm autistic). She also says random transphobic crap to me because my family is okay with trans people "as long as it's not in the family". I love life :'). But i have great friends thankfully. I'm sending love to all of y'all but especially to people with queerphobic people. You're awesome and so so strong and valid

[@missnaomi613]

Myself and my kids (all in their 20s) are on the autism spectrum, and Kid 1 is trans masc enby. I'm sending mama hugs! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤎💙💗🤍

[@CuteCube5]

My dad has 5 kids including me, I'm the youngest. And he's queerphobic, like a lot. 3 of his kids are queer, and the other guys are really supportive. We have a group chat, just the 6 of us there, and sometimes we mention LGBTQ+ stuff. My dad gets so upset it's hilarious, he's like a little kid having a meltdown. One time he came into my room and was like "Why did I deserve this. Why is it like this" I almost cried laughing. He looked so stupid. So sad my siblings can't see that, they've moved out a long time ago.

[@JustADogLover396]

Happy story below: I came out to my parents as lesbian earlier this month! My dad said he already knew cause I literally had a life size teddy bear that I would pretend was my girlfriend. And before I came out, my dad went to his lesbian coworker and asked her if he should help me come out. Like if he should push it or not, she said not to, and he didn't. However, I wouldn't have minded them ask me, it would have eased it a little more. Its easier for me to just answer questions for some reason. And when I came out I told my parents about my crush. My mom was like "I wanna see this (insert crush name here)" lol. I love them! Sorry to everyone who isn't as lucky as me.

[@milliesghosted]

AWH IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU LIVE LAUGH LOVE LESBIAN

[@lucamannstein2587]

Shouldn't be aro/ace considered holy by christian faith logic? Arent nuns and monks supposed to be celibate and isnt their thinking that lust is a sin, so shouldnt they consider aro ace people as something closer to god/the divine? I'm not religious at all, but this would go with their logic

[@emmetlover206]

A lot of aroace people never want kids. So they aren't being fruitful.

[@chadfalardeau5396]

It's denying the desire that's holy, not having the desire seems to defeat purpose

[@emmetlover206]

@@chadfalardeau5396 Yeah, I'm just basing if off things I heard about childfree people growing up. I grew up Christian.

[@chadfalardeau5396]

@@lucamannstein2587 I'm just speculating based on what I've heard/read. But it does make you wonder how many aroaces have been and do join

[@FreyW-mb2dj]

Dang, you’re right

[@alistair5496]

My parents and my grandma made me read the book Irreversible damage or listen to transphobic podcast before I was allowed to join a GSA. They wanted me to have an "open mind". It sucked and I was going to join the club if they wanted me to or not. My mom has also threatened to put me into a school that will "treat me to be a girl" because I was dressing like a guy. I was just wearing hoodie and baggy pants. Also, she lost it when I got a button up from the boy section. Another fun thing, my grandma blocked me in the kitchen and made me promise not to cut off my chest when I'm older. She was reading things about top surgery. It sucks but Im still me and it hasn't changed me. I hope anyone dealing with shitty thing gets help soon and know that you're not alone. People will love you for you.

[@missnaomi613]

Not ignoring what you said, but I have the burning need to tell you that the words in your profile picture... My daughter and I say that all the time! 🐸

[@emilyjohn2034]

The genuinely misunderstanding between the difference of “I have a different opinion” and “you’re not allowed to be against my opinion” is wild. It’s like saying “I like tacos” “well I don’t like tacos and don’t want you to be allowed to to like tacos” that is no longer a different opinion you are now actively attacking another person. Being transphobic isn’t just another opinion it’s actively trying to remove peoples rights. And that is not open minded. How people don’t understand this is wild to me

[@johnnytownsend4204]

I just read the novel, "Camp Damascus," by Chuck Tingle, about a gay conversion camp from hell. Literally. The religious community made a pact with demons to keep LGBTQ youth in line. It's a horror story. But then one young woman decides to fight back... (It's a great story about how doing hurtful things in the name of God is never acceptable.)

[@ChaosSparkles]

He does more than just the parody romances? They seem ridiculous but I've heard they have good life lessons and depth.

[@11Ohno111]

Where, Where, I need it- where did you get it? I need to get my pretty little twink gremlin hands on it now

[@keltai83]

He just released a new book called Bury Your Gays, I've heard good reviews about it. I loved Camp Damascus and that he made the main character autistic and LGBTQ

[@DragonMoonFNAF]

That sounds like am interesting story!

[@georgiadubs]

I came out as asexual to my religious parents. They were so dismissive and have pretty much pretended the conversation never happened. My sister, who is extremely supportive, told me later that my mum told her she was worried my asexuality was a 'gateway' to me coming out as a lesbian 😂 me and my sister had a good laugh about that one

[@user-vn3mh7xv5h]

As a christian myself I hate it when people use religion to justify them hating certain groups

[@Mr.happy689]

I'm... Just tired at this point 😮‍💨

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

Unless they use it to justify hating everyone, everywhere. Then they tend to be pretty based.

[@Nakedsnake36]

Same

[@chrissmith8198]

You know we as Christians do love, but we don't base love on culture right? We base it on God's Word?

[@Nakedsnake36]

@@chrissmith8198 God’s word is mercy

[@ragnarokelerm]

Im autistic and bi (edit) tnx luvs for all the supporting replies hope you all have a lovely day

[@ADJvide0z]

I think it's pretty rude for a bisexual to falsely claim to be autistic. I'm not sorry you bigot.

[@Mushroomy_vr]

@@ADJvide0z?

[@LeonoraTheCatPerson]

I am autistic and pan! Yay

[@ADJvide0z]

@@Mushroomy_vrhomophobic/queerphobic neurotypicals falsely claiming to have conditions they don't have is very rude

[@nekusakura6748]

I hope you find someone who loves you for you.

[@Bigoukun]

I will NEVER understand peoples that reject their kids for their sexuality or gender. A parent is supposed to want nothing but the happiness of their child. I know if I had a kid, (not that I plan to ever have any) I would support them regardless of their gender and sexual orientations.

[@emilyjohn2034]

And it tends to be the same families who defend abuse with “but we are family!” And talk about how family is everything, suddenly that doesn’t matter once their kid doesn’t fit their idea of how someone should be

[@chrissmith8198]

And parents do! I mean the bible says raise up a child in the way he should go And we know true joy is only found in the person of Jesus Christ

[@Sebby.sprout]

No need to apologise to someone for hating on you :D

[@ETDOfficial]

Why would I? I love annoying them, all I say is I’m transfem bisexual and they go crazy and go crazy and I laugh

[@timothyisstupid]

Extremely based

[@PhantomQueenOne]

Sadly it sounds physical violence is going to happen or sending them to 'conversion ' therapy to make them 'not queer'.

[@milliesghosted]

Mood

[@toadette4x]

Story 1: I'm aroace my and it just makes me so angry how he/her/they got treated. I wanna let those parents sit trough a powerpoint presentation about aro's,aces and aroaces for 4 hours straight.

[@11Ohno111]

Ah yes, The holy Ace Text (Presentation)

[@PhantomQueenOne]

It's about purity culture where women have a limited role except being a broodmare, housewife, and be 'pure' until marriage in the case of the woman with the controlling father.

[@jameskilts555]

I confronted my parents about my lack of believing in religion, and that I'm an atheist. They told me they'd rather me be gay than atheist. Oh if only they knew I was both LGBTQ+ and atheist 🤔🤔

[@chrissmith8198]

May I ask what made you an atheist?

[@jameskilts555]

@@chrissmith8198 I came to the conclusion on my own, especially after a long time of abuse and mental degradation, I begged god to help me, show me some sign that he's real, aid me in my time of need. When I realized there was indeed no answer I eventually came to the conclusion that there was no god. I was in seventh grade and a strong believer in science. I believed (and still do) in the idea of "if it exists, there must be some feasible way to prove it". Ever since I have only seen more and more things that keep me at the same conclusion.

[@TheNamesGrayW]

I GOT A BINDER YESTERDAY!!!

[@zebrabitch7821]

CONGRATS! AWOOOOOO

[@turingtestingmypatience]

CONGRATS GRAY HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR BINDERRRRR I KNOW IT'S EXCITING BUT REMEMBER TO BIND SAFELY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE BECAUSE IT'S TOO DANG HOT OUT THERE RN OTHERWISE GO WILD, ENJOY LOOKING AWESOME

[@pipi-caca]

Congrats, remember to bind safely!!

[@statesburgproductions]

Congratulations, comrade. Remember, don’t bind longer than 8 hours a day.

[@daisymay6505]

Weee that's so awesome, remember to be safe and don't sleep in your binder ❤

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Special shoutout to Dr. Jo Hartland who has made considerable progress in bringing awareness around queer people in medical fields as well as decrying conversion therapy.

[@ChaosSparkles]

My parent has gone from not understanding and disliking the lgbt+, learning and becoming more accepting after I came out, had a religious experience, and now is extremely trans/homophobic. It hurts more seeing them change than if they were that hateful in the beginning. I use to hope I would one day see them wear a "I love my bisexual daughter" shirt I saw online, but that seems impossible now. 😢

[@RainbyFIN]

Wishing everything good to everyone disowned and thrown out and/or "no contact" with their parents because they're phobic 💖 Everyone deserves a safe home, and no one is entitled to being in contact with you if they're ruining that

[@Bouziqa]

That absolutely sad that everyone LGBT hates there homophobic parents

[@AttieIsLovely]

Before I realized I was trans, (ftm) I came out as lesbian to my grandmother. She didn't really understand much of it, but she was fine with it for the most part. A few weeks later, I visit her house and she says: "I don't think you're lesbian." She then proceeded to look up bible verses about homosexuality and made me read them. She wasn't wrong about me not being lesbian though lol

[@Nic0Dr4ws]

She’s so supportive! She knew you were a man this whole time, so wholesome

[@TechnoWoolfAnimations]

My dad is extremely homophobic, and if I told him that I’m pansexual, I would immediately be disowned. All my stuff, he would keep. Even my car.

[@ktown13]

Im sorrry your dad is like that i wish you support

[@TechnoWoolfAnimations]

@@ktown13 thank you.

[@Bouziqa]

Fatherless

[@Bouziqa]

So that does mean you hate your dad because he never supports your imaginary sexually

[@ktown13]

@@Bouziqa she just literally said she has a dad

[@legojenn]

I can't see things from the parents' perspective. Some of my peers are becoming grandparents so I've seen a lot of friends kids grow up and I can't see how they think that they can talk or abuse queer kids into not being queer. My parents tried denial, but they were embarassed when folks were confused. My father was once excited about me showing up and said his son was coming. One of his friends said that he talks about his son, but never sees them. I just said that my brother is a selfish asshole and liar, which is true. It dissipated the situation.

[@hawkeyescoffee6399]

That response seems like one hell of a power move. The other boss move I've seen is when a trans person replies, preferable in a overdone whisper, something along the lines of "we're worried about dementia since he keeps insisting I'm his son" (said by someone who is clearly a woman, or in the reverse when someone continues to call their clearly male trans son their daughter). Or, like "Oh it's actually very sad, my brother/sister died X years ago (where X=year of starting transition), but my dad just can't accept it."

[@liamhutfles4113]

Their hate isn't logical. It can't be disproven. Any arguments they make are justifying what they know is hate.

[@emrys7168]

Thank you for this. I really needed to hear and be reminded that bigots can do one, even if they are our family members. Mine have not taken my coming out as trans well and are not currently speaking to me. I'm at the really fun bit of hrt -7 months in and changes are happening! - that I really wanted to be able to share with them, but they don't want to know. I was finding that really hard today, for some reason, so thank you for this video. It was just what I needed.

[@carolinelabbott2451]

You can share here, what you are comfortable with, and there is plenty of us here who will cheer you on. Congrats on 7 months hrt. ❤

[@binglemarie42]

4:51 I'm pretty sure I would go to my parents the next morning saying that Jesus had come to me in a dream. He took the gayness out of me, and commanded that I be celibate to glorify Him. Done and dusted until I'm ready to leave home! (I'm aroace, BTW.)

[@cloudyskyz2237]

Wait wait this is genius

[@Sly-Moose]

🤣 YES!! I would LOVE to see their reaction cuz I bet you anything they're the type to still want grandkids

[@Milesmorales-spidey]

I am FTM and came out to my parents at 18 (1 week before I left for uni) over the phone. they called the police and tried to get me sectioned until the mental health act , the police were out on the streets looking for me and I got pulled over on a motorway. Very traumatic and had to convince the police that I was in fact sane and it was my parents that needed help Safe to say I have not spoken to them since I left to go to uni 7 years ago

[@That_Star_Kid]

My parents are homophobic, transphobic and others but you get the gist. I'm bi and ace and I'm not coming out anytime soon but while the pride parade was going on in my town it was raining (as always cause I'm Irish) and my dad said 100% serious, "I hope the rain washes the gay out of them" I think I'll stay secret 🙂👍

[@Nic0Dr4ws]

He’s right actually, I once went outside while it was raining with an umbrella and the next day I was magically cishet, fortunately I followed the rainbow and at the end was my baggage of gay so I just put it back ok

[@emma-janeadamson4099]

Just to add a bit of hope to the world, I'm both Gen X and a regular churchgoer, and I'm watching this stitching a birth announcement for my son as I have for all my kids, except instead of his birthday it's going to have the year he came out as trans. Sone of us are okay.

[@diamonddead8162]

I was terrified at 27 to bring my first boyfriend to my mum, she was fully convinced I was seeing a chick till he rolled up, and I told her don’t question it just accept it

[@ItRemindMeOfHome]

Unfortunately, in the United States the child is the property of the parent until 18, unless they are legally emancipated

[@girlwithtehface5880]

Not "property" because that would be considered slavery. The child is a ward of their parents, which is how Child Protective Services can exist and take people's children away from them legally.

[@goodpeople25]

@@girlwithtehface5880 Slavery not as punishment for a (supposed to be duly convicted but I doubt it) crime. Slavery is legal in the US remember. And that means they are perfectly capable of still treating people as property. Also how does being able to be taken away means something is not property?

[@cspratt]

My sister and I are 12 1/2 years apart, I'm 36, she's 23, we have the same mother and different fathers. I never came out as bi, and am in a straight relationship, I knew I would never be accepted, so I never mentioned it. My sister is MTF and pan, she was able to come out the year before our mother died. I wasn't able to be there to support her, I have reached out to her and let her know that I accept her and love her. I hope she got the acceptance I never got from our mother and her father accepts her.

[@claratalbot7613]

I remember growing up having the expectation that I was going to marry a man, have kids, grow out my goth phase, not get tattoos, & dress more feminine. 20+ years later I'm still in my goth "phase," still dress in more masculine or genderless clothing, slowly working on my patchwork sleeves, I'm bi-romantic but have higher preference towards woman or feminine presenting people, & if I have kids it's going to be through adoption unless my spouse wants to do ivf treatments but I will not be the one having the kids if we decides to have them due to infertility issues & medical risks

[@FanGrell1993]

Gender fluid, Asexual, Panromantic, Autustic .....my family doesn't know about me being gender fluid, but surprisingly accepted the other parts. Also accepted that i am not Christian, bur not telling them.i am pagan

[@11Ohno111]

Fellow Nerodivergent! 🤝

[@FanGrell1993]

@@11Ohno111 🤝

[@user-ni1mh8rd4v]

Fellow pagan!🤝

[@Kathryn012]

Fellow asexual 🤝

[@BooklikesBFDI]

SOBBING I WAS ALSO ON TUMBLR WHILE WATCHING THIS AND SAW A POST THAT SAID "Hoffman really took the whole crushing thing a bit too far" AND THEN IN THE VIDEO JAMIE WAS LIKE... TRYING TO HYPNOTIZE US WITH HIS BOOK(0:09) AND THEN I HALLUCINATED THAT GUYS VOICE FROM THE WHO WAS SHOW SAYING MY COUSINS VOICE AND REALIZED I'VE BEEN HALLUCINATING FOOTSTEPS FOR THE PAST LIKE 3 MINUTES????? /nm

[@shhhhhhh9328]

That "protective" father is just protective of his investment. It's his daughter's duty to marry well so that the father gets the status of a good connection to a worthy family (and perhaps a bride price or good dowry deal). If the daughter is even rumored to be not virginally pure for her husband, she won't attract a top-tier buyer and the husband's family can tear up the contract if she seems too "experienced" on the wedding night - hence the father's obsession with not allowing men or boys anywhere near his 5+ yr old daughter. Honestly, it's all so gross and comes straight out of traditions more than 2,000 years old, of males owning their household members with women as chattel slaves equated to beasts of burden only valued for their childbearing ability. Now please excuse me while I step away to puke...

[@Robert-yc9ql]

Sadly, parents are often told by the media and religion that same sex unions are wrong, so they sometimes lack the tools or even a starting point for learning that, in fact, no. This isn't wrong or weird... happens all the time in nature... really nothing to see here. Really good parents want their children to be better than themselves. Educating absolutely everyone is the only sure cure for ignorance. 😊

[@aiden3627]

The overprotective dad with the not allowing 5 year old boys to be friends with his daughter is almost a snapshot of my life. My dad doesn’t prompt me to marry but he still doesn’t like the idea of me being with a man. He actually told my mom that he would prefer I date a woman though he’s not sure why he feels that way he just does (I’m out as Bi). My dad spent my whole life telling us things like “you will never run fast enough, fight strong enough, or scream loud enough” referring to boys who might want to hurt us this was his only semblance advice on how to stay safe from potential attackers/rapists. I can tell OP that if she looks back on her life she will likely find other behaviors that are or are close to psychological/emotional abuse, my dad was giving us a trickle down of generational trauma due to his own experiences but he made us almost afraid of boys then got mad at us saying we were ‘foolish’ to “live in fear”, never elaborated on what living in fear meant and ‘foolish’ is one of my trigger words because he used it to make me and my siblings feel like the most disgusting piece of worthless trash in the world then claiming that he didn’t. My dad never let me stay at someone’s house overnight if their dad or brothers were there, the brothers were often okay because it gave them an excuse to go to their own friend’s house for the night which was fun for all of us, and some of the dads were questionable. HOWEVER my dad also had to be convinced to let me stay at a friend’s house because her 3 year old brother was going to be home. I was 12 he was 3. My dad made it abundantly clear that he didn’t like the baby be around me. Fucking creepy. He called me selfish when I was a teenager I said I was never going to have kids because I don’t want them and that if I ever did get pregnant I would abort it and if that didn’t work I would give them to an adoptive family. He went on a whole lecture about how he wouldn’t allow me to get an abortion and if I didn’t want it to give it to him because blood or something but I just said I would rather die than be pregnant. He was upset when I got a hysterectomy as an adult and refused to freeze eggs. I also told my doctor that if I ever ‘changed’ my mind about sterilization I would just adopt 🤷 even if I did want kids I wouldn’t bio kids because everyone in my family has some sort of chronic ailments that cause immense pain and awfulness, I told my dad that in the unlikely event that I did adopt I would not want a baby I would adopt a teenager or something and they gave me some BS about how the teen would already “have problems” and I was like yeah maybe it would, I don’t know, benefit them to be loved and cared for? Also my dad went from “you can’t go on the exchange program to Germany because I would miss you too much” when I was 17 but a few months later I was given an opportunity for my friend’s grandpa to pay for me to travel to France to visit her home and family for her birthday (she was an exchange student with the USA) my dad said “you’re 18 make your own decisions, you don’t need my permission” even though literally one month prior to my flight to France my entire fucking family flipped their shit because I was going to work at a summer camp several hours away for a week (same one I went to on a yearly basis that literally saved my life by showing me different ways of life and different people than the sameness of the population 500 people of my hometown) well the driver got tired before we reached our pit stop for the night so we detoured and stayed at his parents house to sleep for a few hours before getting on the road to finish the journey in the morning. My whole goddamn family flipped their suit, my sister told my mom my other sisters got involved somehow, my dad got mad my mom called me in an unnecessary panic and my dad reamed me out over the phone where all of my friends could hear and they got mad saying things like “what do they think we’re gonna do? Why would we do anything?” Their feelings were hurt be my family treated them like some kind of predators even though my family knew them! When my family does shit like that it ruins the entire experience for me, I was having fun and then I just felt sick for the entire week and then more when I got home and got chewed out again. And a month later they gave no shits about me going to a different continent.

[@Brightheart_the_Sentinel]

Wow O_O Totally unhinged, I'm so sorry you had to deal with that... I hope you're free of that madness

[@enoiladoe]

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. Family is who we choose to have in our lives. 💜

[@dandylion2775]

The colours on your book cover look lovely! They go together very well.

[@jakethesnake2511]

The funny thing is, wouldn't a Christian want their child not to have the sin of lust.

[@mrsplays9817]

"Mom... dad... I'm... free from the sin of lust." "We need to fix this."

[@alextheferret5674]

I came out to my extended family and they immediately disowned me :D

[@silverghostcat1924]

I'll be happy when the time comes (hopefully sooner rather than later) when no one "comes out" because everyone is accepted for who they are. Where the only thing that's important is whether you're a decent person or not.

[@Clouded_ZERO]

when I told my mom I'd prefer to be called her daughter she claimed "it'd be too hard." and "god made no mistakes", I was honestly hurt by such words am I in the right or wrong by all that context?

[@snowyowlss]

you’re in the right, it really isn’t that hard to respect people

[@LifeLiberty-rn6bq]

Thanks Jamie. Transitioning is so good for trans kids and adults. Puberty blocked Kids reproductive system never grows to adult size, never develop sexual function and have medical and surgical SELF-sterilization after cross sex hormones, puberty blockers and mutilating genital surgeries. YAY FOR TRANSGENDER TRANSSEXUALS. hip hip hooray!!! Everyone who is gay, please become transgender. Gays have normal, healthy, great functioning reproductive organs and can’t reproduce offspring with surrogates. Oh yeah!

[@Clouded_ZERO]

@@snowyowlss thank you

[@harshdino8]

I'm Really sorry you had to hear that I do not blame you for feeling that way And you are not in the wrong Me personally I would give you a big hug and say I support you and encourage you to embrace what you wanna be

[@Clouded_ZERO]

I have an update I asked if she knew what I meant, "yes" Let me put it into a nutshell; "I don't really care, you're still my son, I just don't get why"

[@kurotsuki7427]

Still dont get why the people who say sex is sinful get so dang worked up when we don't experience sexual attraction. But hate isn't logical.

[@webby3109]

Oh my god!! That one about the homophobic catholic family just hurt!! I could just envision the whole thing, and it just makes me sick that anyone could be so awful like that, smashing stuff and throwing things just because your kid is in love!! That says a whole lot more about that family than it does anything about anyone else

[@MmmHuggles]

Never apologize for doing the right thing.

[@0_chi_hiro]

with that long story it's also super important to mention that the kid was FORCED to come out. the mother pestered her until she got the answer she was obviously looking for, then lost her absolute marbles about said answer. She basically forced her kid to come out, gave them absolute hell about it, and then did everything she could to take away any support they were getting. What an absolutely horrible creature

[@wanderingchook1193]

i vote for Jamie to make an audio book version of his book please!

[@rosieg6989]

Auto book recorder by Jamie and Shaaba was out before the original hard copy.

[@pathevermore3683]

i listened to the audiobook last month.

[@wanderingchook1193]

@@rosieg6989 oh i had no idea they had already recorded one!

[@Laura-hh7vs]

I know two types of invisible ink : 1 liquid that is only seen under black light, 2 lemon juice after warming paper the lemon juice leaves brown residue / txt.

[@platosbeard3476]

_Capt. Sir Mansfield Cumming suggested that British intelligence agents use semen as invisible ink during World War I, but later put a stop to it due to the smell._ - verified on Snopes

[@katyamcadams]

​@@platosbeard3476of course *Cumming* suggesting using semen LMAO

[@hsihdbssbcjtzksk7426]

I purchased your book in June. I have been watching this channel and community for a while and it was honestly eye opening.

[@lilhedgehog8576]

I hate these hypocrites that will say that letting your kid be trans is abuse when they’re the ones who berate and threaten their children into submission.

[@Trithis2077]

Damn, it's stories like these that make me glad that my father is more or less just unsupportive rather than being outright hostile. I came out as trans 2 months ago now and his reaction (and one of my brothers' reaction) was "Well I don't understand it and will never support it, but it's a free country." I've been strongly considering moving out at this point (I'm almost 26 and have enough money to do so) but also don't know if I really need to. I'm already dressing as me around the house and he doesn't charge me much for rent... I think as long as he just pretends it's not happening rather than trying to do anything about it I'll be fine. Back to the point at hand though, what I deal with is rough, but I couldn't imagine life if he was actively hostile towards me for being trans. My heart goes out to the people in these stories.

[@calmghosts]

I came out to my mom like 14 years ago and she basically told me that she thought I was just confused as I was only a young teenager so I went right back in the closet. I just recently came out to her again thinking I’d hear the same response but this time she was actually really accepting and told me I should just love who I love and that it wasn’t a big deal or anything. I think she was expecting this to happen eventually but this was a big thing for me and I almost started crying because of how stressed out I was with this for so long! So if anyone else is going through it and their parents don’t react the way you’d hoped there’s still a bit of hope, they might just need some time!

[@faith-by-faith]

"My own entitled parents made me listen to 4 hours of online preachers in the effort to 'cure my gayness' fml" As a preacher, I can say this is 100% NOT what Jesus taught. I don't believe in hell, but if there is one, their parents are going. Edit: I am a genderfluid demisexual lesbian, for reference.

[@Callie_with_a_bible]

Didnt Jesus say something about not judging for God is the only one who judges? And something about loviny thy nieghbor? I'm an athiest and even I know more about the Christian values....than some Christians seemingly-

[@faith-by-faith]

@@Callie_with_a_bible Yes, he did. He also said to leave people alone if they didn't want to listen, and ran away when the people tried to crown him king. Seems to me there are a lot of Christians out there who don't want to be like Jesus.

[@Eddysig]

The amount of people here, who dealt with what I did just makes me feel less alone; I tried to come out as trans at 13 or 14. My whole family essentially were just like "no" and unintentionally made me feel as though I was so wrong and insane for thinking that, made me feel like maybe it WAS "all in my head" and that these trans youtubers were just "influencing me" (what kid WANTS to be trans.....). I am 21 now, and still in the closet. I am so unsure how to even come out now because it's been so long, and my dad has a unique cancer which makes me feel like should I do it sooner or just table it? yk? I appreciate this channel so much, I appreciate Jamie and this community so so much. I have been watching since I was that 13 year old and I'm so glad for people like Jamie because I'm not crazy. I wouldn't feel like this if it weren't true. I just need to educate on my resources and everything so I stop questioning like "am I sure?". It's right wing people who LOOOOVE talking about de-transitioners that fill me with doubt, like I give myself the ick knowing I'm trans and that so many people will refuse to be my friend. But who cares, those people are fickle anyway. I'm seeking LGBT+ friends and normalizing it as much as I can because no cis person thinks about dysphoria all the time or feeling like they're not a real person or like something is missing. If it was just my sexuality, I would know by now. It's this cycle that I've been left in since failing to come out. I appreciate this vid so much and shoutout to anyone else who has been through a similar experience. It's so hard but we don't have to be alone anymore

[@Pinkyorangegirl]

Should I come out to my parents as bi? They are just as homophobic and transphobic at the same time as those parents😔

[@zebrabitch7821]

Maybe not sadly. Idk your situation, but make sure you have a bit of money, and all ur id's before you come out

[@rosieg6989]

I know it’s not what you want to hear, but you should wait until you are safe and secure. As in you have a little money saved up, finished high school, and have a safe place to stay other than your parents. Only then if you feel safe enough to do so do you come out and if things go better than you thought they would than that’s great, but if things go poorly you have securities to fall back on.

[@Pinkyorangegirl]

@@rosieg6989 Thanks for the advice

[@rosieg6989]

@@PinkyorangegirlOf course, stay safe.

[@toxicbavariankitten]

I agree with rosieg. Have an exit plan available to you. I (Transfem Enby/Agender Aro Ace [Not 100% sure yet]) for example cant/wont come out to my transphobic/homophobic parents/family because I cant safely exit and then live on my own yet. Doubt I will find acceptance by them but even if I dont, idc, they put me through so much shit already, I plan to go nc with them anyways.

[@margengreer4935]

I support the LGBTQ and I am proud to say that I am a Muslim I would never ever hurt someone’s heart

[@kdepp90]

On the story with the way over protective misogynist father: I feel for the daughter. I grew up very similar to her, with the exception that I did have both make and female friends growing up in the 90's and 2000's. However, I was never allowed to spend the night over at anyone's place, despite it being at a female friends place, cause of an adult man present in the household (friends' father), and my parents didn't want to take the time and effort to go over themselves to meet and get to know the other parents, and would tell me that that's on my friends' parents to come over to our place to meet with my parents, which I would relay back to my friends parents when they brought up my parents coming to meet with them if they had any concerns, and since my parents didn't want to make the effort, friend's parents event going to either. I was also homeschooled very poorly all my life, and while my reading comprehension was top notch (according to my GED teacher), my math skills were seriously lacking, and only knew really basic simple arithmetic. And that was it. Nothing about anything else. Mom wanted to put me in public school but dad didn't, cause he was too afraid of the teachers getting their hands on me, if u know what I mean. Anything about sex was limited to just don't do it till after you're married, and don't let a guy get between your legs, cause that's how you get pregnant and get STDs. 😐 I didn't have my first boyfriend till I was 17, and that lasted a year, till my dad forced me to break up with him, cause my bf had a hard time finding a job. I was dating my second bf (whom my parents also didn't like for the same reasons), when my dad passed away suddenly when I was 19. It was only after that, my mom let attend an adult school to get my GED, so that I could qualify for financial aid to attend a community college in the next town over. My dad had constantly told me, that I didn't need to work, as he could provide for all 3 of us, which ultimately flunked in the end with my mom being retirement age by the time my dad's passed, and me not knowing anything about life. And tho I think that while he probably would've been against me going to get my GED and going to college, I would like to think that he would've proud of me for accomplishing what I have been able to do in my life. Living with an over protective parent and not knowing any better about it, and thinking it's perfectly fine, just to realize later in life it really wasn't, and in fact was actually very detrimental to your life, is really hard to do, and come to terms with. I hope the OP in that post can get herself a really good support system whether that be friends, getting some therapy, or a combination of both, cause that is not a healthy way to grow up in life. Hope things get better for her! ❤

[@j.rinker4609]

Parents could also look for an "Open and Affirming" church that allows them to believe in religion AND accept a gay/trans/etc. child.

[@GalaxyFilms_official]

As a Trans teen that is also pansexual and nonbinary (Im a demiboy) i accidentally outed myself on a KZbin live because i was going by he/they and she was spying on me through the door and during the live she wanted to talk to me in the hallway and she was like "why are you pretending to be a guy?" And since she is very transphobic i was like "im just cosplaying as one." Trying to un out myself because i was scared for my life and she was like "okay." And i went back to my live. A week later as we where driving to the Walmart i had my headphones on and she was trying to say it was a phase and use her transphobic powers on me as a attempt to make me question myself even if i was very sure that im trans so i turned my headphones up (they are soundproof) and after a good 10 minutes of her being blocked out she finally notices and she stopped talking and i took off my headphones ans she said "i was talking to a wall huh?" And i was like "yeah." And she sighed and gave up and said "I don't care if you want to be a guy, i love you no matter what you are just dont go all out until you're completely sure and dont change your appearance permanently like from surgery until you're moved out and over 18 and no matter what you do you are still my little girl." And now about a few months later she has suppressed that conversation a bit and still misgenders me in public even when i pass as a guy, but she doesn't refuse to buy me masc clothes and shes getting me cologne for my birthday in 6 days from now. She does support me being pansexual though completely, shes just warming up to my trans side which i am glad that she isnt trying to change me like some parents i heard about. Its just the pronouns thing in public im trying to get her to warm up to.

[@redrock733]

I’m a straight guy, but I do have parents like this. Even yesterday they called the performers at the Olympics something that rhymes with “bags”. They say they try not to be hateful but despite that, it’s because of their performance that they’re not watching the Olympics. Another time, they were shopping and couldn’t find any workers in the little store. But, the moment they found a “we support LGBTQ+” sign in the store, they put down what they were going to buy and left the store. Theres more examples but, I don’t feel like getting more worked up over this. I just can’t with them.

[@DoggedOn-qk3vt]

I feel like spilling some tea, so here it goes 😘 When my (grand)parents found out I was trans, it was possibly the WORST thing possible (keep in mind that I didn’t come out, they just found out). It all started when I found my (now ex) partner, and they so happened to be nonbinary, and during our relationship I found out o was trans and I have been for over 3-4 years now. My grandparents are OMG homophobic/transphobic so I never told them. Just recently they looked through my phone (without my permission 😍) and found out. We had a conversation about it and they called me a liar and that they would force me out my relationship if they didn’t know my (ex)partners bio sex. (Yes they can do that since it was only long distance) we had a LONG argument over this because my grandparents thought my partner was the reason I “wanted to turn into a boy”, so😀. We’re better off now but now I can’t feel comfortable with them anymore and practically everyone in my household is homophobic/transphobic. (Aka my grandparents and my older brother). There is more to the story but it goes into personal detail so I will not share more than necessary, sorry. But that’s my story of how my grandparents “found” out about me being FTM (P.S. they’re also Christian 😃)

[@ilikecookies9796]

It's usually the christians, isn't it?

[@Callie_with_a_bible]

​@@ilikecookies9796 The ironic thing? The Church of Satan and The Temple of Satan are both pro LGTBQ+ You know the same religions Christians despise?

[@snowkr3580]

21:42 so invisible ink is ink that disappears after you write with it and then if you heat it up it reappears again so you can send secret messages that way! I'm pretty sure you can make it at home even :)

[@timothyisstupid]

I think they were talking about the IPhone invisible ink texts, where the message comes out as squiggles and dots until the recipient reveals it

[@11Ohno111]

You can make something similar too, it appears in water, imagine the amount of Real World ARG's people could make?!

[@Nic0Dr4ws]

I was assuming they meant more about something online? Just because it doesn’t make sense that they’d be passing letters back and forth but if it’s not what you’re saying then idk what it is

[@snowkr3580]

@@Nic0Dr4ws you know maybe they're talking about an app that uses the same principle Makes the message invisible and then you have to do something (maybe put in a code?) to make it visible again. That would make more sense if we're talking about online messages

[@jhosioja]

I was terrified of coming out to my religious sister as a transwoman. I was never religious, and actually quit the church almost 20 years ago, but that was never an issue for her, we were still close. But there had been some hints in earlier years that she and her husband had some conservative views on lgbtq+ issues. I told her on our shared birthday (4 year age gap, I know, it's an amazing coincidence), and her eyes went wide, then she smiled and immediately got up to walk around the table and hug me. I was pretty choked up. Turned out they had done some growth while I wasn't looking. I was lucky, and I know a lot of people aren't, but religion definitely is not a guarantee hate.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

Parental obsession is scarily normalised, due to the parental bond being considered sacred. If your boyfriend/girlfriend acted like that, they would be in jail. Parental obsession needs no ulterior motive to be creepy and harmful. The child needs their personal space.

[@coasttocoast2011]

The ‘over protective’ father one reminds me of one I saw where it was a similar situation but a dad with his 11 year old son. Dad wouldn’t let son be alone with girls son’s age because they might have sex 🙄

[@leniluan5131]

When I came out to my parents, they punched me in the back of the head. It hurt for days. They eventually checked on me, but I didn't realize until later that they only did it so that there wouldn't be bruises and they wouldn't get caught

[@TheComedianGamer]

Once I told my dad that I wanted to get myself a good paying job, buy my car and house independently, adopt children, but I did not want to get married (I said I wasn’t going to get a HUSBAND because I’m lesbian but I’m not out and am not planning to come out) I kid you not, he was like “ARE YOU A FEMINIST!?!?” Bruh… imagine when he finds out I’m gay, then he’ll really go crazy

[@darkstar543210]

as a demisexual demiromantic enby who also happens to be a pastor's kid, existing in the church, or in any largely christian gathering, can be very stressful. thankfully, my mom (the pastor) is the BIGGEST ally i've ever seen in the church. the church she's working as the interim pastor for was in the local pride parade, mom and i included. it's still not entirely sunshine and rainbows, however. shortly after the parade, mom and i had to shed our prideful colours, and hide our support. all for a family friend's 80th birthday party. see, in my area of canada there are two main lutheran synods. Both are lutheran, both have churches labelled as lutheran churches, but you likely wouldn't know the difference without talking to someone in the church. the evangelical lutheran church in canada (ELCIC, the one my mom preaches under), and the lutheran church - Canada (LCC), based on the missouri synod (who are LGBTphobic, and won't let women be in ministerial roles). after the ELCIC made the decision to honor gay marriages, there was a split in congregations. many opted to drop the ELCIC to move to the LCC to align with their views, and any allies could either deal with it or leave the church. the family friend in question, and all of his family, was solely planted in the LCC, and it likely wouldn't have been safe if we kept our pride in view. we still have a lot of work to do, but it puts a smile on my face to know that, at the very least, one pastor uses they/them pronouns for god. i inspired her, after all.

[@chrissmith8198]

Lord help us

[@darkstar543210]

@@chrissmith8198 lord help us root out the bigoted among us and teach them to love their neighbors as they love themselves? i agree! lord help us... not be demisexual, demiromantic, and nonbinary so a majority of "christians" don't hate me? absolutely not, please get therapy.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

No one: Jamie: “BUH-ho”

[@MisterMistea]

As awful as what happened to the first person is, MAD props to them for managing to break their parents like that. Bro/sis wasn't having any of it and stood their ground until they just had to give up. What a champ

[@inediblegummybears]

i saw this in less than a minute what????

[@SheIsntHer]

hehe samé

[@snowiifox3732]

when i came out to my mom she told me to(and i quote): focus on your studies, this isn't very important, thanks mom, love ya 🙄 she realized what she said later and apologised profusely, but yk, still hurt

[@Beegirl12345]

I’m glad I have such great parents who support me