Reacting to the All Blacks' World Cup squad | Aotearoa Rugby Pod

[@Slipperygecko390]

Webber is similar to Aaron Smith but he's 10kg lighter. Nice to hear the another good rugby anylist sticking up for Stevenson, he also had a great kick to make Koroibete knock it on and a turn over too. I like Talea's skill set that's unique, his ability to yoyo around in tight situations and draw players in and then offload. He works well with WJ too, and the option to bring Leister on fired up and ready to make big carry's against tired defenders seems perfect.

[@camwells9726]

I think if smith was injured, Our best option would be Weber starting , roigard bench

[@icetroll734]

This is my favourite podcast now. These guys, great insight

[@bobquen2775]

Just wanna say guys this is best analysis at the moment in NZ. You actually talk through issues and talk through the points raised to a conclusion, as opposed to the breakdown where they start a conversation on a topic and change topics every 60 seconds without letting everyone talk through their thoughts.

[@duanekuru4157]

Good talk. Just a thought. On tactics - to me what ALB does is he brings a step to the midfield attack. Jordie is more a battering ram. Good one too. My point is if you did the analysis I'm sure you could pick the appropriate personnel based on the likely skills needed in the game and knowing your opposition's strengths and approach. If you need a stepper in a swarming defence then ALB will be better at that then Jordie. But if you believe there will be space and a straight line carry is more important then that would surely be a part of the process for determining the game day 15 and bench. In my thinking it's good to have the option both as a strategic approach for the start And as a different look IF the game doesn't go our way by early in the second. Havili is another stepper, DMAC is a gasser, as is Beaudy, Jordon is different again somewhere almost a combination of both. Narawa, Fi Nuku are Power players and Telia again a combination. All excellent love there individual and collective talents and skills. AND I suggest we don't have a top 15. We have a top 15 for the game And a plan B on the bench because we've thought through the challenge. OK it is only Rugby. I know but if we are going to get back on and stay on top I think this conversation is relevant. Go All Blacks. D.

[@_duffgolf]

Loving this interviews with all blacks! Proper footy chat and and good questions. Shows off the knowledge of these guys and the work that goes into this high level footy. Keep it up fellas.

[@poerava]

Loving your chat and chilled vibe lads. Thank you. JK, Wilson and Mils are getting a bit…:back three-ish. They need some forwards in the mix. Man. Webber, Lord, Moody, Finau were unlucky. Hopefully they get the call up.

[@bvbvcpp]

🤗😊

[@limsrusill]

I don't mind Mils, I think he's pretty good actually. JK and Goldie are just talking to hear their own voices.

[@poerava]

@@limsrusill Mils doesn’t bring anything new. Too passive. Just echos the safe middle ground and agrees with everyone. JK on the other hand seems to purposely disagree

[@limsrusill]

@@poerava that's fair. I guess I just don't enjoy seeing our sport shows going the way of the US ones.

[@poerava]

@@limsrusill Yeah I hear you. We need more jokes and more hard case grass roots rugby chats like in the changing rooms. Need those front rowers that can tell the wingers where to go and some young players who are a bit more open minded. Some fans that are more scholars of the game than the refs. Also this delusion that ex rugby players know a lot about the game. They don’t. They know the lived experience, yet their awareness about many things in rugby is poo poo 💩

[@WeerasingheLakshani]

1. De Groot 2. Taylor 3. Lomax 4. Barrett 5. Whitelock 6. Frizelle 7. Cane 8. Savea 9. Smith 10. Mounga 11. Telea 12. Barrett 13. Ioane 14. Jordan 15. Barrett 16. Samisoni 17. Ofa 18. Laulala 19. Retallick 20. Jacobson 21. Christie 22. ALB 23. Leicester

[@cruzerblack8789]

Laulala wants to play flyhalf and break all momentum when the ball needs to go out wide. His ball skills is a big probleme. Just get out of the way big guy

[@drisszyani3497]

Newell > laulala

[@jennarollan211]

I'd rather have Roigard on the bench

[@DMD19]

⁠​⁠@@jennarollan211Roigard would choke on the big stage. He needs more experience to close a big game. He may not choke but I wouldn’t risk it if you could help it.

[@HakatimeRugby]

12:50 You know JPs about to drop that in his NPC commentary haha "Your best ability is your availability.... and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens ..... is always available" 😂

[@tb-nz]

"They say that winners are always hungry and is starving" etc etc

[@eugenemaxwell5609]

Shot bois, love your insights/knowledge!!!

[@DeMontarey]

I am a SA supporter, I would love SA to take the World Cup again...but there is something in my gut that tells me NZ will take this one...I hope my gut is wrong...but I have this uneasy feeling that it is not wrong 😥

[@peakey8874]

It’s unfortunate about pollard, jager and am I was looking forward to a full strength all blacks vs a full strength springboks World Cup final but SA still have a massive chance

[@timmado8441]

South africa still have a chance but it gets much tougher without key players

[@rieske2000]

Ireland and France are favorites. They need to deliver. The draw is a real pity but it is what it is. Go ABs!

[@anelasibhoko467]

Jordie Barrett would be an amazing backs/attack coach. He is intelligent and articulate enough to get his message across. In fact, all the Barrett brothers. .

[@Kaylin-CR7]

All this Caleb Clarke hate is so unnecessary. He's been an exceptional player coming off the bench and it's been proven. People are criticizing him when he hasn't even been playing full games. From what I've been seeing these few games is that he makes an impact and he's a key player. There have been way too many times that Telea has wasted opportunities that Clarke could easily capitalise on. I personally think that Caleb definitely deserves to be in the WC squad. Once everyone realises how good a a player he is they will eat their words! Statistically he is one of the best left wingers today and people don't seem to realise that...

[@camwells9726]

What I noticed is how they are using him off the bench and I think it has been overlooked by most, He has been in close looking for ball near the ruck , getting involved with pick and drives like an extra loose forward , I think it’s part of the ploy to speed up the game , I think him and leister will share that role

[@memene0]

nah it's not hatred, Caleb Clarke is definitely a good powerfull player and he seems like a good lad. He brings a lot of punch and he is a menace in attack. But he is not a very good defender yet: he makes a lot of bad reads, has really poor decisions making skills and ends up in no man's land beetween players defending nobody but opening plenty of spaces out wide. He actually cost a lot of tries to the all blacks.

[@PJSO]

Had a question for the boys. Can you boys explain the full process around squads sending 33 and how many they can bring from home if some players get injured? And whats the limit?

[@peakey8874]

The way Jordie speaks its like he’s visualising everything he’s saying in his mind

[@joseslatter9276]

Listened to every word and they were all good!

[@duanekuru4157]

Oh. And of course exactly the same applies in the forwards. Is it Size, weight, carry ability, speed? What is our strength in each position VS what they will put up? Go Forwards!

[@jayrob5270]

Angus Bell had a great game but that hit that Laulala put on him was huge, pity he didn't wrap and bring him down.

[@johndiamond6931]

😂😂

[@AintEasy101]

Finlay and Clarke both lucky to make the squad. Convince me I’m wrong??

[@davidpeters3857]

I can’t

[@andrewcoughlan420]

Odd indeed.

[@ThomasJunior-c3z]

Why Clarke?

[@Tom_McMurtry]

Finlay super scrappy on defence. Ā different style. If Aaron Smith gets injured then weber comes into start as his style is most similar. But if you want a change up in styles then Christy or Roigard. Clarke is statistically the best defensive wingers we have along with Narawa. Check out the black jerseys video on Clarke and his defence vs others on wider defensive positioning and context too as well as his attacking role being a bit different. Cleaning rucks and power. Distribution when the defence doesn't expect it at first reciever.

[@Meketoa1]

You're so right. I've seen Christie fail badly especially in his lack of defense. He could lose us the World Cup. Why Webber missed out I cannot believe. Webber is 'Gold' in all aspects of his game. Clarke? He's failed to impress this year at all. So many great outside backs I'm surprised Clarke got in. As much as I like Tamaiti Williams, his game especially his scrummaging lacked against the Aussies

[@fossilmatic]

The “hidden injury” theory is interesting, in both the forwards and the outside backs. Jordan, head crock; Narawa, back; B.Barrett, head crock; Telea, leg; Lester, leg; Whitelock, Retallick, both leg; Jacobsen, head crock; Cane, neck. These have not been “niggles”. They have kept these players off the field for extended periods over the last couple of seasons. Throw in the strong possibility of a card suspension in the loose forwards and we may be light there. We look to have a very strong starting 15, but how many would be relied upon to play every game required through a World Cup? You can see why we had an All Black XV tour for the next tier.

[@axxey]

I'd be interested what positions players are bracketed cover as, we have a single 10 bracketed with two 15s to cover and three one dimensional wingers in telea, clarke and fainga'anuku. Jordie Barrett is historically our best utility but has performed well at 12. Lienert-Brown has been the best 12 or 13 while fit. We have 6 fullbacks skillsets repurposed to various positions.(which i love) Good problems to have but definitely unclear to the public who will consistently cover where.

[@Meketoa1]

Webber is all Class! How he misses out especially to Christie I can't believe. Christie's defence has been awful to the extent of bleeding tries. Webber was the class halfback this season especially. Clarke is lucky to be going. So many good backs besides him at the moment.

[@vernonveniodhanpillay1218]

What about the Māori All Blacks?

[@JN-er5yu]

The Blues is a hub for favoritism and nepotism, cant believe he tried to make Narawa's Blues stint about his attitude. He killed every season at BOP. The Blues are notorious for dropping players for "local talent"

[@teawaruaedwards274]

Hmm? Seems to be a lot of locals in the Christchurch team. Dunedin probably has the MOST locals in their team?

[@oneday458]

Spot on. Look at the difference it made going to the Chiefs with Clayton McMillan (ex-BoP coach) coaching.

[@zombievikinggaming4258]

What are you getting at exactly?

[@rogue_luko]

NEPOtism 😂 (as in Laulala)😊

[@nprwikeepa6082]

​@@oneday458came to say this

[@deantairi8357]

As a all blacks supporter i never had faith in our team winning the last four games the results are enough for me to trust in how the current coaches have made the selections they have made

[@JoeRadzif]

Bryn Hall should be on the plane to France too

[@urkput]

Bryn?

[@kp.53]

yeah over finlay buddy

[@Slipperygecko390]

The wont take a Crusaiders halfback lol, Drummond and Bryn have been exceptional but no one even thinks about hem. Like Razor will have his 9 be the most steady but boring 9 in the world and work everything off Mo'unga and WJ so no one pays attention to the 9, when they're actually really good. Razors 9s are going to look at lot different.

[@JoeRadzif]

@@Slipperygecko390 true true

[@vernonveniodhanpillay1218]

Why?

[@thewielloyd988]

Given how young and unexperienced the Wallabies pack was even relative to the understrength ABs pack, it's reassuring to see them piece together a style of play that is improving week on week. Hopefully a sign of some positive years to come 🙏. God knows we need it if we're going to stem the tide and be attractive enough for young schoolboy talent to stop jumping over to the NRL the minute they leave High School.

[@korocam9137]

They have a few young world class athletes emerging now. Just need some experience and impact off the bench able to close out games.

[@Tom_McMurtry]

Frizell can cover lock early on if need be

[@chasey2327]

gotta feel for stevenson and blackadder - he's a 110% er

[@davidridersmith5434]

Interesting point on rehearsed behaviours… thinking about different cultures and positions. Discipline vs spontaneity?

[@RossYeoman]

Webber unlucky an elusive runner and defender experience in a world cup environment hopefully unfortunate not to get picked for rugby champs .pref I would prefer an extra loosey and h back too many backs .but a good mix and versatility he's picked and hope to god these men are hungry for this cup hunger grit and determination will get em thru best of luck ladz

[@LouisMackay-n9w]

Every Fijian has that mentality when you have kids ..it’s work and family becomes priority

[@clearwater3432]

🤦‍♂️ This show is the best man 😁

[@drisszyani3497]

Laulala Christie Clarke out of squad for the RWC. Weber finau moody Stevenson should have been in the squad.

[@ciaranoconnor4027]

"The teams that won probably experimented less..." I don't know if I agree with that. Wales were a very different side and Ireland started with like 2/3 out of their starting XV. Even England had a good amount of first 23 in their team that lost to Wales. The French XV were all young fellas, so I agree there, none of that team were starting XV, something which Scotland may find out about this weekend if France decide to biff them in revenge with their starting XV.

[@davidpeters3857]

Excellent content as usual

[@rodeo4786]

The filthy look Jordie throws at opp tries is just priceless.

[@miguelangel3254]

22:30 "Pretty easy for me... i reckon😎😏... but I can't pick an 11🙄😅🤪"

[@rhycnnms239]

When Razor comes in, Bryn Hall will get his ABs caps.

[@ss2gora0]

Isn't he 29? I think it's too late sadly

[@Badmansband]

​@@ss2gora0Dave Hewitt debuted at 29. Frank Bunce at 31.

[@drisszyani3497]

No … Roigard will be the 9 and there are new talents with Fakatava ratima noha latham…

[@stevenbissett]

The music intro sounds like Christmas is on it's way. Perhaps it is for the ABs?

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

Going good, Jordie.

[@dariankrieger4813]

How do you guys feel about Shaun Stevenson not making the cut? From S.A

[@creator6182]

Too many good players

[@markferns5916]

Talented attacker, great long punts, but his defense is still not great.

[@mickser101]

In a 33 man squad and only taking 9 players for attritional positions 4-8. Should have taken 11

[@rchw8052]

I'd rather listen to these guys' perspectives than Kirwin and Wilson.

[@Tom_McMurtry]

Kirwan is pretty good to listen to atg points. No nonsense.

[@scubbasham10]

best part about Kirwin and Wilson is Kirwin disagreeing with everything Wilson says

[@julianalderson3938]

Cheers great show.

[@drisszyani3497]

Why 5 outside backs ?? Only 4 suffisant with their versatility and more interesting to take 6 loose forwards : finau behind.

[@scubbasham10]

With the squad make-up, is Ardie the ABs most important player to keep fit?

[@korocam9137]

Every team have “hidden injuries” it comes down to managing players as best as they can. With one “warm up” game against SA, looking like they’re gonna give some fringe players a shot then into the WC, France will be the first time we see the No1 team, they’ll play a strong team against Italy. But i think we won’t see the best side again till the quarterfinals..

[@sambeckingsale2542]

Carter Gordan all day- x -factor

[@mirotesinak2214]

Justin Marshall should be cover Aron. He is looking for a job since Sky Sport fired him as a commentator.

[@garrieclark24]

Really, that sucks the assholes....

[@andrewcoughlan420]

Worried about halfback. If Smith goes down then there'll be big issues. Rest of team is about right.

[@broderickfall]

You don't leave 148 caps on the bench.

[@teuilagracetualaulelei1609]

The ABs will only a month-old unit, so expectations should be realistic against formidable opponents like Ireland & France. Stevenson’s non-selection alongside his stellar season is non-sensical; Razor could throw him a lifeline post-Foster.

[@MultiNitehawk]

Good on Eddie for letting Quade to come off the bench.Think he should start though.

[@poerava]

Quade is improving in leaps and bounds. He made half a tackle in his last game. Very impressed.

[@Mysterx1440]

He should start against the ABs every time 😂

[@ronita6917]

You must be a kiwi if you want Quade Cooper to run on haha

[@harleylyons1889]

ARP > The Breakdown

[@richardmatatahi4563]

I think the forwards should play a mobile game and not get caught up in the ruck, guys are coming in and burying them on the bottom, they then take themselves out of the game while they get back to their feet, if not penalized. also shifting the ball along the backline and getting to the 2nd line of forwards just to go nowhere forward. Instead of going wide, a number of opportunities missed. Mix it up a bit, someone like Beauden should call it but anybody should, and, for "all the skinny fast boys to take advantage" 105 kgs, Jordie said. But I didn't think they go light on the Forwards, spare my thoughts.

[@sambeckingsale2542]

ffs Brynn. mortgage on smith getting injured prior to or during wc.

[@kobusdutoitbosman6240]

Still say Brad W should be brought in…

[@PJSO]

Quade Cooper has had too many chances and under pressure he seems to fold more than shine with a Wallabies jersey. I would invest everything in Carter Gordan because even at where he is now, he's better than Cooper.

[@DD-so4po]

I feel, Tvangafasi, Cable Clark, David Havili, Finley ⁹, are not giving much front foot rugby. Even Lomax and Whitelock they are carrying the ball but hard to gain meters. Present day rugby mostly Boks, Ireland and France if you want to play them it should be favoured who fearlessly bang and penetrate lines with impact. Cable Clark and Finley must prove, specially Cable every ball carry before passing get tackled and fall pray mostly. Best is to observe matches through TV and see how each player behaves in situations. Cause they play only for 80mts. Last year AB failed using the same old people over and over. But need to exert bit of pressure on players to earn position to enhance performances

[@waffle_burger8499]

"Cable Clark"?? 😂😂😂. C'mon mate, at least learn how to spell his name right. Can't take you seriously.

[@PJSO]

And just like that Quade Cooper has been dropped.

[@tiekumark]

Mark Telea all the way

[@rhycnnms239]

Send the B team against the Springboks...have the A team as subs. Protect our first-choice 15s...this game is for peanuts.

[@gibbogle]

The selectors are the benefactors, Caleb Clark is the beneficiary.

[@poerava]

Not really. He brings high impact off the bench bud. Proven

[@gibbogle]

@@poerava My comment concerns the use of the right word. Listen to the video. When he says "benefactor" the word he means is "beneficiary". Listen to it.

[@poerava]

@@gibbogle Ah gotcha. Sorry. My bad. I see what you mean. Thank you

[@gibbogle]

@@poerava :)

[@MattParlane]

*ado

[@mkg5048]

Im glad Havili selected cause Jordies not the better 12, Jordie kicks way way to much just like Beauden. Jordies awesome but the kicking will kill us if he does this

[@camwells9726]

Your probably all alone on that theory , the backline and attack has looked better since Jordie moved to 12

[@mkg5048]

@camwells9726 we've played poorly, when the WC comes around Ireland and Argentina gonna turn back into monsters and shut us down if we kick the ball around, we just saw McKenzie kick the life out of the ball, this needs to stop, last WCs the Barretts, Mo'unga and Smith were all kicking the life out the ball, truly

[@camwells9726]

@@mkg5048 that is usually players following the game plan not the individual

[@mkg5048]

@@camwells9726 and here we are after 2 WC loses lol

[@camwells9726]

@@mkg5048 2?

[@supe442gg]

the blues bias is crazy fr

[@eliteconvintagerugbyreviva2065]

Finlay Christie has poor adaptability. Slow decision maker to be honest.