REACTING TO The New DBD Patch Update 8.0.0 (ITS BAD!)

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[@ZeusBrown]

"We noticed that killers desperately need gen defense and often use gen defense perks, so we nerfed gen defense perks. Don't camp and tunnel!" - BHVR, probably

[@lukepalm9586]

"Not difficult to activate" gives off the same vibes from when they said "you simply have to hook the survivor" in a livestream like a year ago or sum 💀

[@TrU3Ta1ent]

They haven't changed.

[@nightpipp3937]

And sadly they won't change

[@cl4709]

In order to get value out of POP you need to: 1. Down a survivor 2. Pick them up successfully 3. Get to a hook THEN 4. Find a gen with meaningful progress 5. Kick the gen 6. Hope that doing all this didn’t lose you more time than just chasing the next survivor you saw

[@JCglitchmaster]

Just a reminder that these devs claiming it's "not difficult to activate" on hook perks are the same devs who last time they publicly showed themselves playing their own game in a public match, got shit on so much they ended the match with 2 hits, 0 hooks and entirely deleted mechanics to the game just 1 patch later.

[@mateusgsc243]

@@JCglitchmaster That wasn't the last time, but it's a classic. IIRC some devs used to stream on Twitch from time to time.

[@Sakuya_Moon]

"Pain Resonance finds itself in almost 40% of all loadouts, and is one of the most effective perks in the game. We want to make this Perk less of a clear option for all builds" And what are the options that you guys are giving? wtf is this language? these devs are terrible at their jobs, they nerf things to force people to use less but don't give them options, go buff other things and people will consider using it jesus christ, there is a reasong why is in almost 40% of all loadouts a very obvious one and these guys don't know how and why data works for F sake.

[@Pers0n97]

Its funny how blatant the survivor bias of the devs is. When a perk ends up being in every survivor builds they end up making it baseline (or nerf killers so that perk is basically not needed anymore). When a perk ends up being in every killer builds they just nerf it to the ground until it's unusable.

[@Ghosta085]

they did that with grim embrace and people just used both? what the fuck are you talking about LMAO

[@eddardstark3774]

they nerfed DS tho , now tunnelling is more free

[@Zyzz710]

@@eddardstark3774 aahahahahahh

[@Risinqq]

@@eddardstark3774if slowdown gets hurt, more killers will tunnel to gain control. If sabo gets buffed more slugging will happen. They don't think about the long term effects of these changes.

[@JCglitchmaster]

BHVR: "Hey lets keep buffing gen progression perks and items every patch" Also BHVR/Survivors: "Why is everyone is using gen slowdown". It's almost impressive how little people understand cause/effect in the dev team and community. I also like how every patch note we see the devs saying hooking survivors is easy but the last time we saw a dev actually play the game they literally got 0 hooks and 2 hits the entire game.

[@negentropyagent7337]

im almost convinced that they reward the part of the community who purchases the most skins XDDDDD this game, this community and the dev team at bhvr is a joke

[@snoopdoggydog172]

So true instead of looking at Killer data and asking why do so many Killers want to run Gen regress perks… WE DONT WANT TO BUT WE HAVE TO JESUS CHRIST BHVR! 😂

[@enrique7934]

DEI incompetent devs.

[@kinyon2555]

I can’t even laugh at their balance decisions anymore. I’ve just accepted that in order to play killer the devs will always be against me and want me to main nurse/blight Or better yet become a survivor main! 🤦‍♂️

[@LilacHeather]

Actually point out these new and impressive gen progression perks/items.

[@Ardentuss]

At this point just add the killer bots already since clearly they don’t want killer players anymore. Can’t wait for this game to die when survivors realize how boring going against bots are, then wonder why they left in the first place. The devs suck at balancing this game for all sides bro….

[@swampraider3488]

Said the same in another comment. Just add killer bots so survivors can have their fun bullying an AI lol

[@JayCross454]

It's funny because they did that with survivors, lol. Let killer's quit so they can just play the game stress free. Would love to see this movement.

[@300apes]

Yall should've let this game die years ago😂😂😂 Their entire company is inept yet you people still play this repetitive ass game😂😂

[@TheOnlyChoy]

The balance portion of this update is genuinely terrible, the devs really are completely lost. I recently made a video about how a potential solution to a lot of these balance problems could be by implementing a currency system similar to the Pick 10 system from Call of Duty. The direction of this update specifically really reinforces a lot of what I said in that video. I also have a suspicion that the devs nerfed the best gen defense perks in the game only because they plan to add a new one in the upcoming DLC and they want to incentivize sells.

[@thatgayvillain3234]

I was thinking similar... Like how much of these changes were hints at what we are about to get... Sabo changes could hint at new scourge hooks. All the regression nerfs could be to artificially inflate the power of a new one. They may feel like survivors didn't need changes if they aren't planning on adding new survivor this chapter or maybe new invocations are coming which would mega buff this invocation change. Even the item tool tip box might hint at the new killer's power including yet another for survivors to interact with. .... Idk something about this patch is off... They can't be this incompetent.... Right?...

[@TrU3Ta1ent]

Oh god I hope your wrong about the dlc that's such deceptive practise. But would be consistent with how they have been with mmr...etc

[@4zir856]

the mainproblem lies in the combination of pop and pain. Its the same stupid no brainer combo as survivor picked unbreakable and ds, when ds didnt get disabled by repairing gens. You rather win by stalling with those 2 perks than anything else. You might come with the argument that without strong regression perks you cant win, but thats precisely one of the few reason why the devs think weak m1 killer don t need buffs, because you can still win by perks. Stbfl is the most obvious and extreme example.

[@damadhattahttv]

yup and this is what lead cod into being pay to win now they removed the weapon tuning. i was saying i believe this is exactly where bhvr is going with eomm and dlcs

[@baseballfan4877]

lmao you are probably right

[@ZombieHawkz]

The BHVR cycle Step 1: Gens get done fast Step 2: See killers use gen slowdown perks Step 3: Nerf gen slowdown perks Step 4: Repeat steps 1-3

[@lukesenesac]

They keep nerfing Gen slowdown but not Gen rushing. Do they even realize why pop and pain res were popular in the first place?!

[@ItsAlpa]

Well of course they do, that's why they are nerfing it. They don't want the killer to be good. When the mass player base which is the survivors whine and whine about something they will nerf it. They want to stay on their power trips because they were probably bullied.

[@trainingday9962]

They should make corrupt intervention basekit

[@casianpump3751]

@@trainingday9962 Honestly a mini version of corrupt basekit would bea good change

[@hermanbrachey7653]

Weep❤

[@Elutai]

we use gen rush BECAUSE you use slowdown. no one likes gen rushing its boring but it seems like the only way to win the game when you get anti gen doctor mains 10 games in a row 3 genning on purpose

[@golemofwill4728]

"We are nerfing these meta perks, except for survivor which will get a slap on the wrist along a side buff."

[@albertosusy1649]

Finally some buffs for survivors, we got a lot of nerfs in the recent times. I think its gonna be fine.

[@flegmaniac3462]

​@@albertosusy1649weak bait

[@boiiiiiii5741]

@@albertosusy1649 What kind of nerf ? Anti face camping ? Anti 3 gen ? 5 sec DS ? what else did i miss ?

[@golemofwill4728]

@@albertosusy1649 Bait used to be believable round these parts.

[@veladanjbakht140]

​@flegmaniac3462 I mean u think that's a bait ? This survivor mains literally are that crazy to say stuff like this ngl .

[@DelrenGaming]

People will keep cycling through which ever is the best gen defence combo, until bhvr nerfs them all into the ground to the point where you literally can't take gen defence perks.

[@verandream6675]

In the future they'll say "we saw that killer perks were too oppressive, therefore we decided to remove all killer perks from the game. Also, now decisive strike and off the record are base kit"

[@CaptToilet]

I feel BHVR's ultimate goal is to get rid of gen defense. Nerfing pop to the ground by going CURRENT instead of TOTAL was the first flag. Them attempting to nerf Pain the same way would have been the second flag but luckily the community weren't stupid this time and prevented it from happening, but I guarantee they will revisit it.

[@mynameisjeff3940]

@@CaptToiletseems the best solution to me remove all gen regression perks and adjust base gen speeds accordingly. Then killers can run more chase and info perks

[@Cynwale]

@@mynameisjeff3940 Then they take distortion ez gg cope harder.

[@TheDragoonofdestiny]

its the "survivor agenda". basically nerf all killer perks/addons/powers to the ground, all because survivors whine how everything can be used with camping and tunneling. Survivors instead of improving or using perks to help them with these struggles, cry on the DBD threads to remove anything that helps the killer or nerf anything killer related that annoys survivors. Wouldnt surpise me if one day they give survivors a constant, killer aura read as a basekit

[@MaximusCaliber]

Your face on the scamper for Chucky was exactly my face reaction lol

[@TilSchweiger-hn8po]

Chucky is the most harder IMBALANCED killer. I say it to you like pro gamer since 2018.

[@wadecarroll3572]

I don't even play this game anymore and these patch notes piss me off

[@airlumes]

I've never really voiced my opinion much until now: BHVR wants to make all the killer players turn into AI. The rate at which killers are leaving this game, or switching to only playing survivor is astronomical. I don't get it, I love this game, it's so much fun and the content is fairly well made. What I don't like are the constant issues surrounding the way people are told to play the game rather than being given options. There are about 10-15 perks that get used in almost every single game. Why are people being encouraged to play the same perks every single match? B H V R. You're forced to run these perks or you have to worry about losing every single game. This community has these devs in the palm of their hands. Survivor only players are the reason this game is in turmoil. Stop nerfing things that don't need it, stop buffing things that aren't needed. Make DBD fun again, more balanced, that's all everyone in the community who cares about this game wants. Something needs to change at BHVR.

[@lemonsniffs]

Unpopular opinion: They try to get rid of old players, because old killers obviously leave eventually, old survivors either fill that spot (and will understand the frustration) or be bored by super long queues, so only new people will play the game. For how long though?

[@GodZenithar28]

Long enough to release a couple more killers/survivors and sell as many skins as possible. They don't care about this game's health long term and that's obvious. I predict they'll move on to something else in another year or two.

[@flegmaniac3462]

Might actually be true. Dbd was supposed to be shovelware. They didn't expect it to become popular.

[@boiiiiiii5741]

@@GodZenithar28 TBH i think they do care but they listening to majority ( Which happens to be survivor ) as every patch even on a small survivor nerf ppl are whining + the fact that ppl like OTZdarva ( supposed face of dbd ) is scared to talk about needed survivor changes and unnecessary killer change due to survivor mains on twitter attacking him. Scott jund well this guy is straight up dumb clown don't have anything more to add.

[@Pers0n97]

And that would archive... what exactly? If you want to "get rid of old players" it needs to serve a purppose. There isn't any purpose in your take here.

[@andeeersu9287]

@@GodZenithar28 they can't. if DBD didnt have licensed characters behavior wont exist since every other thing they made is a failure.

[@Pers0n97]

Its funny how blatant the survivor bias of the devs is. When a perk ends up being in every survivor builds they end up making it baseline (or nerf killers so that perk is basically not needed anymore). When a perk ends up being in every killer builds they just nerf it to the ground until it's unusable.

[@Miguel323527]

4v1. Ofc they gonna cater to survivors lol why can't you guys understand

[@Pers0n97]

@@Miguel323527 Because, yaknow, if you don't have killers you don't have a game.

[@fdhappy6930]

Leatherface and Deathslinger changes are fully ok. Deathslinger gets some quality of life updates, without any downsides, meanwhile Leatherface gets a stronger basekit, so you can use other Add-Ons potentially without missing out on too much power. And if you want your big power back, use the Add-Ons that are now weakened, which gives you + - 0 But oh lord the explanation for Pop is so insane, what did they think?

[@somekinnn]

From what I know, the leatherface changes are actually making his strongest combination of add-ons base kit, so essentially you're losing out absolutely nothing from old leatherface if you run completely different addons, and you get even better power if you do use his addons.

[@fdhappy6930]

@@somekinnn So they don't just use a fraction of the buff, like with the Deathslinger reload buff a few patches before? Damn

[@benh5831]

What is more difficult than hooking a survivor as killer? Isnt that the overall goal of the killer? I understand nerfing Pop, but make the explanation make sense. "Conditions arent difficult" is absurd-level thinking.

[@JayCross454]

Yeah, performing your primary objective as killer "isn't difficult" when the devs have released a plethora of perks and items to completely counter this action. True should bring a new player into the game and have them play, day 1, as a killer. Let a new face experience this game from low mmr to top mmr and really feel the cringe before getting an honest reaction from them.

[@DivusMagus]

New pop at best gets you 17ish seconds of regression on a 99% done gen. After finishing a chase, picking up a survivor and taking them to a hook and walking to the gen takes longer than 16 seconds. While there are three other survivors who could be doing gens in that time. For comparison previously on a 995 gen it would save nearly 27 seconds. And this is best case scenario, like most the time you can't even find a gen that is over half done.

[@iamZooom]

Notice how whenever they nerf survivor perks they also give it a buff to 'compensate' don't with killer perks though 🤣🤣

[@BeefyZawg]

Not even true, stop whining u only play one side so u don't get an opinion

[@iamZooom]

@@BeefyZawg and you know that how? 🤣Stfu dude. You know nothing about me 🤣🤣🤣

[@kinyon2555]

⁠@@BeefyZawgtypical survivor main

[@LilacHeather]

@@kinyon2555grow up.

[@BeefyZawg]

@@kinyon2555 I main killer if u need 4 gen perks ur aren't good

[@RedHoodFH]

Im so glad i stopped playing this game almost a year ago now and didnt pump a lot of my money into it. This is just sad

[@salvatore2004]

this type of person always is interesting to me, "i quit a year ago, fuck this game" but let me still keep up with it?? if you've quit good for you, why do you feel the need to wear it as a badge and shove it in our faces? "look at me i quit this trash game ya'll are losers who still play it" if you've quit this game move on. i see a lot of the same losers under dbd's twitter or instagram page. strange.

[@RedHoodFH]

@@salvatore2004 alright comment police, where do I pay my fine 😂

[@RedHoodFH]

Also, why the gaslighting? I didn't call anyone a loser for still playing. If people wanna play this game, more power to them

[@raindancelion1544]

@@salvatore2004 maybe because we still are interested in the content being produced but not play this scam of a game and your projecting pretty hard

[@lordpean]

How is the game a scam​@@raindancelion1544

[@morganjacob1195]

But now Chucky is really one of the worst killers in the game. 110 speed and what? What can he do good now?

[@andreidragomir5360]

Trust me bro a good skilled chucky can hug loops and be lethal with slice&dice, it's very hard to checkspot the little man too. The change is very healthy for survivors, avoiding a guaranteed hit is always nice, making killers have to be skilled and clever with his power and disables the braindead playstyle of going under and getting a free m1. I think true's take on this is very bad, and this is the best direction to be going making killers take more skill to play

[@andreidragomir5360]

Also hidey ho every 12 seconds lmao a chase with chucky will rapid fire slice&dice which will be amazing both for killer and survivor way more fun than a guaranteed hit every 18 seconds

[@philipmrch8326]

If that means no more boring counterplay then it's worth it

[@andreidragomir5360]

@@philipmrch8326 It is and you are absolutely correct, it also encourages killer players to lean more into the skill expressive part of chucky's base kit

[@gabrielmcadams3417]

​​@@andreidragomir5360I'm with you, this whole comment section is so whiny without even seeing the big picture. Everying is crying survivor bias while being extremely killer biased. I play both equally and have hated how chucky works since it he came out, glad they're fixing it.

[@marcusbourchier2245]

Nice. They finally adjusted Background Player so that killers now have to worry about it every down they get with no down time in between.

[@viipervenom4648]

Look at a wall lol and if there at a pallet just swing if u get the timing right they can't stun u

[@syn4621]

​@@viipervenom4648what if you down on a survivor out in the open and there's no wall available? do you just accept it's a free save

[@phantasmo88]

@@syn4621entitled survivors will just say skill issue or take the blind but will bitch about slugging if you even think about doing it

[@marcusbourchier2245]

@@viipervenom4648 Spoken like someone with 5 hours in the game lmao

[@battypayload8536]

@@viipervenom4648People also said this before and flash grenades exist

[@riafire7477]

So glad I stopped playing killer because its obvious the devs hate killer players, they always change things if survivors find it boring or frustrating but never for killers

[@boiiiiiii5741]

Yep because of that horror except of this game has disappeared not a single killer is scary u can see them coming and literally pop gen at their face.

[@katnumb1692]

Tf u mean, they gigabuffed Hillbilly, Buffed Huntress for no reason, Buffed Leatherface, Deathslinger, Doctor, Pig, Trickster and a bunch of other killers in the last few updates and Buffed the kick regression to 5%

[@IKnowWhatYouDid3]

​@@katnumb1692all Qol changes, nothing big

[@darkarchon1103]

@@katnumb1692 true, the only reason he's saying stuff like this is because he didn't review the last 9 patches that were all killer sided lol

[@shadowxphoenix8674]

lol ya they hate killer players almost every update they buff killers and nerf are perks not once but 2 to 3 times yep they sure hate killer mains lol -i plan on playing killer glows form outspace and deleting this broke game

[@Liquefaction]

Before "emp" Now: "emp, invented by the romans in 15 BC,...."

[@pugstriker]

fr

[@Paotato69]

This update has some dogshit changes. Thanks for not disappointing us, devs.

[@andeeersu9287]

can't wait to see how they will fuck even more next patch

[@ZAP0161]

the minor, medium, major just is there to tell you if its just a number change (minor), changes the way its used (medium) or is a rework (major) regardless of how much those changes actually impact the game, id say the "minor" changes are always the most impactful ones they do being the number tweaks since they clearly just guess without testing the values

[@snoopdoggydog172]

Wtf just watching your Chucky gameplay on Midwich and doing everything right and still only getting 1K and they nerf Gen Regression perks and nerf him WTF

[@nightpipp3937]

Horse shit developers

[@mrcokez1]

im reaching that point where im considering moving on from DBD

[@stickeyyyy]

Same. But it's been on a downhill slide since at least 2022. When they nerfed the original dead hard and decisive, and changed the movement. That was the beginning of the end.

[@jack0f4lltrades28]

Do it. I've left for nearly 2 years and I've been living a more stress free life since. Hands down No cap, leaving the game is such a relief 😆

[@andeeersu9287]

@@stickeyyyy remember old circle of jerking? 💀

[@IKnowWhatYouDid3]

​@@stickeyyyythe original Dh and Ds was broken asf, of course you want it back so you can abuse them over and over and over 💀

[@castleflutes]

if playing killer stresses you then do it, this game was the only one where i'd get anxious by launching a match lmfao

[@airbreeze2038]

Terrible... The most annoying change is the Chucky nerf, he already gets fcked because he is 110%. I will never understand why BHVR keeps nerfing the killers who are so much inferiour to the S tier killers like Nurse or Blight.

[@VideojugadorIrritado]

Not, is because is was always a easy free hit, you can't stay in a pallet because is a loose situation, worse than legion.

[@jonathanarellano8449]

Devs must be trying to speedrun ruining their game 😂🤦‍♂️

[@Duskwalker68]

As expected, they nerfed the absolute shit out of regression perks and barely touched the busted Survivor perks while providing a buff to the one that progresses gens. Chucky, Wesker and Blight ate a big nerf while Bubba and Deathslinger got minor buffs. Toolboxes will be even more obnoxious now, so slugging will be even more necessary against some teams. Deadlock is worse now, Background Player is slightly less good but can be used twice as often, Grim Embrace sucks even more now, Decisive Strike is the same, Pop is substantially worse (they think getting a hook is easy because they suck at the game lol), Buckle Up is somewhat less bullshit now but will still be used often, Pain Resonance is worse yet again, Invocation is substantially stronger.

[@Skrillz]

wesker ate a big nerf? they are taking away something that is completely unfun to go against? 99% of weskers will be unaffected by this change because they can actually use his power unlike you it seems 🤯 blight is still as good and sure chucky got a nerf

[@Duskwalker68]

@@Skrillz I was going to write an actual response to you, but based on your other comments you're just a toxic loser so I won't bother. You call other people "brain damaged" and worse but you aren't even smart enough to avoid having your comments filtered by the auto moderator lol.

[@Duskwalker68]

​@@SkrillzI was going to write an actual response to you, but based on your other comments you're a toxic troll so I'm not going to bother. You insult other people's intelligence but you aren't even smart enough to avoid the auto-moderator removing your comments lol.

[@Duskwalker68]

@@Skrillz I was going to write an actual response to you, but based on your other comments you're just toxic and looking for an argument so I'm not going to bother. You insult other people's intelligence but you aren't even smart enough to avoid the auto-moderator removing your comments lol.

[@Duskwalker68]

@@Skrillz I was going to write an actual response to you, but based on your other comments you're just toxic and looking for an argument so I'm not going to bother. You insult other people's intelligence but you aren't even able to avoid the auto-moderator removing your comments lol.

[@deo_gaming6676]

with that chucky change it shows that they are in favor of the pre-dropping pallet meta rather than getting skills to stun a killer

[@viipervenom4648]

Getting a stun on survivor is competing on the killer not really a skill thing how is it skillful again

[@weiwenntwo7972]

Background Player is still going to be insane asf. It's going to activate more frequently and with how easy flashlight saves are, it's stupid.

[@Scykm-]

Im confused on the complaint about buckle up, they are removing the endurance which is a well needed and welcome change imo, but you also don't want them to add anything else? Are you implying that the only thing buckle up should do is give the aura reading?

[@MrNorbi001]

Can you tell me what exact sentence made you think that he want something like that? I have to know how big is language barrier between you and him.

[@Scykm-]

@@MrNorbi001 At 18:41 he says "Buckle up no longer provides endurance, yep good, but they need to add something don't they, they always need to add something, its fucking ridiculous"

[@Cynwale]

@@Scykm- The point is that they dodge the problem with Survivor perks, while with Killer perks, they have NO HESITATION at nerfing it, period. He doesn't mean that the perk shouldn't be changed, he means that no matter what perk, it's going to be a "slight slap on the wrist", while for Killer perks it's straight up taking shots at the legs and asking you to run.

[@viipervenom4648]

True bitches about everything tbh if ur going to keep watching him get used to it

[@avcrabs4130]

​@Cynwale that's absolutely Bullshit 🤣dead hard Is nerfed to fuck ds is still shit nothing to complain about what else do survivors have to run you say they haven't changed anything for survivors how many times have they nerfed dead hard they literally changing buckle up witch is acceptable but the outcome of the perk is shit so pretty useless pop needed the nerf pain res didn't I play both side its balanced but you can't moan saying they take time changing survivors perks it's the exact same as killers people are delusional if they think it's one sided 😂

[@Dex-Emu]

Let's just stop play this game, It's not worth our nerves.

[@francisparkeryockey4891]

that's what i did today brother, game is gone from my disk already, i really wish survivors will have to wait 20 minutes every que only to get these last p100 veteran nurse players which will obliterate them :D

[@ShadySam]

“I can’t quit: I’ve spent hundreds of dollars on this game!”

[@Etrieh]

get a better playstyle then.

[@kaister901]

I immediately laughed when I saw the Chucky changes. He is a useless 4.4m/s killer now with that change lol. There are way better stealth killers to choose from than a 4.4m/s killer that has zero counter at loops.

[@user-bz7zn1fh2j]

I don’t think you’ve played against a good Chucky player have you

[@trainingday9962]

He was already shit imo

[@SAR500]

@@user-bz7zn1fh2j they already nerfed his problem which was how easy it was to use his launch attack you can barely turn with this makes him garbo

[@user-bz7zn1fh2j]

@@SAR500 I’m talking about how he can go under pallets and almost immediately hit you, he’s so small you can barely see him do it so it’s basically a free hit every time

[@verandream6675]

@@user-bz7zn1fh2j Not a bad thing, a survivor lasting at least 1 min 30 in a chase can already make you lose 3 gens. It's okay for some killers to have a certain setup letting them get a hit in.

[@Daventry85]

Literally 0 reasons to play killer anymore. Im going full survivor with all these broken ass perks and rushing 3-4 minute games on loop

[@swampraider3488]

Same, tired of sweating my ass off as killer, every match is the same. At least playing survuvor you can pull off some goofy shit (and still win lol)

[@LilacHeather]

@@swampraider3488how? When I play killer I’m able to give a fun time and still win whereas playing survivor I’m constantly forced to do gens cause my numbskull teammates are too busy opening chests and dull totems at 5 gens.

[@swampraider3488]

@@LilacHeather Different experiences exist bro. I understand the soloq problem, a bit arguable for me because I get very good matches, since I only play that (none of my friends play DbD), but I only get swf as killer, it's not fun

[@KOHoxton]

​@@LilacHeatherthats what the MMR causes lol. If you're on the higher end of MMR. Chill games doesn't exist as killer. Every game is as hard as the last, and it gets stressful af.

[@LoneWolfe_XX]

You know chucky was too op on loops, he was unloopable especially with scamper

[@jonathanarellano8449]

The thing is, there are no new killer mains because of the game imbalance, but there are new survivor mains, so you have these seasoned killers going against these new survivors, causing them to cry about killer op but all they need to do is take the time to get good

[@atlasgraham154]

Bud, go on like... any social media anywhere and you'll see just how blatantly wrong this is. There are a shit ton of new killer mains constantly posting videos, asking for tips, complaining about Survivors shitty behaviors, and generally bitching about the state of the game. I mean, I get the 'game is going to drive away killers' argument, but you're just using blatant lies.

[@SASQUATCHPRIEST]

@@atlasgraham154 "blatant lies" lmao u are mentally ill

[@jack0f4lltrades28]

Dang Chucky's best ability was the Scamper. It was a good chase cutter, but Slice and Dice was so awkward to navigate that it became a hindrance. I'd avoid it and use Scamper or Hidey Ho to sneak up on Survivors instead. Mate I haven't played this game since a few weeks after playing Chucky, how is this difficult for developers to understand? 🤣 now he's gone from A tier to possibly C tier in just one nerf.

[@arcadianfox8127]

I've only 100hrs in this game, but seeing how they 'balance' things makes me want to just quit. Generators already pop like crazy. How the F*CK are you going to nerf Pop, Pain Res, AND Deadlock. What the F*cking f*ck is wrong with these people. I'm pissed. Killer is just pointless to play. I'll just keep playing survivor as I've been playing lately, it's just easier and more relaxed. No need to think

[@dxvg1233]

These might be one of the worst devs in gaming history 😂😂

[@carsondawidowski7479]

Yet you still play the game. Crazy how that works

[@dxvg1233]

@@carsondawidowski7479 nah i used to.not anymore tho. i just watch gameplay

[@martinkovacs9055]

@@carsondawidowski7479 nobody plays this stupid ass game. its so boring. designed for 80 year old men.

[@carsondawidowski7479]

@@dxvg1233 they definitely make mistakes but they are far from the worst devs. The fact the game has been in the top ~20 on steam for nearly 8 years goes to show how well they’ve done.

[@frankangelo1983]

@@carsondawidowski7479 They buy IP and it's a game made for casuals, of course it's popular. It's gone down hill and the devs are clearly terrible. Worst ever? No. They are up there though.

[@CRKD]

18:39 "Buckle up no longer provides endurance, but then they need to add something, it's f-ing ridiculous" Yes, because the perk would literally not do ANYTHING, so that's why they need to add something else...

[@verandream6675]

It would show you the aura of the killer while healing an injured survivor

[@ettubrute197]

I literally had to get on phone to say the same thing like dawg. Tf is gonna do then?💀

[@eternalspecter4511]

It’s a rework bruh

[@BeefyZawg]

He's a whiny dbd player

[@carsondawidowski7479]

@@verandream6675that is a worthless thing to have as a perk all by itself

[@the99asterix]

I used to play killer a lot, but I am slowly gravitating to survivor, because it's much less frustrating

[@kuilu]

Yeah i practically only play survivor nowadays, just ain't worth it to play killer.. Absolutely zero enjoyment in it now even though i always loved the role more.

[@castleflutes]

i went from killer main to both survivor and killer main, to only survivor main and then i quitted the game lmaoo 💀 Playing survivor was way less stressful but very boring

[@TheGreatslyfer]

The annoying thing about Chucky was that even if you baited the pallet drop and they respected, so you kept on running, he can still charge his Slice & Dice quick enough that he catches you before you make it around the other side of the loop. They should have made it so that the Slice charge time is slight longer at base, but reduce it significantly after scampering for like 1 second so that they can hit the survivor before making it around to the other side of the loop in the scenario where the survivor does drop the pallet. This would make it so he doesn't get a hit if he loses the mindgame (survivor keeps running), but does if they win the mindgame (survivor drops pallet and tries running around the other side of the loop)

[@emanueleerroi9157]

They killed my boy chucky. Devs are fucking incompetents

[@ThePressureKing]

you can blame otz for that

[@emanueleerroi9157]

@@ThePressureKing yeah he gaslight chucky for no reason. Don’t get me wrong it’s a strong killer but not THAT strong to get a nurse or blight treatment my god

[@leonardopontes7376]

Otz say that he was very strong though 🥺

[@ttt9830]

He’s slow as fuck so without his scamper to get a hit it’s going to be fucking impossible to even do shit now

[@Skrillz]

@@ThePressureKing "blame otz" ur retarded holy fuck tru3 and this community must have some brain damage, otz is a killer main, and devs dont listen to him, wont get into this further because ur brain damage wont be able to comprehend

[@verandream6675]

BHVR really wants killer mains to stop playing the game, don't they?

[@carsondawidowski7479]

You people that only complain about killer nerfs seem to disregard survivor nerfs when they happen (addition of end game collapse, medkit rework, locker save nerf, ds nerf, dh multiple nerfs, etc)

[@andresjimenez7174]

@@carsondawidowski7479it’s because good killers don’t complain. Tell me how often you see comp level survivors complain about changes😂😂 they don’t. They adapt and make the best of it. That’s how to differentiate shit killer players from good ones. Ironically, True who is a decent killer, has a community full of pathetic killers💀 sad how that works actually.

[@subblivion4471]

@@andresjimenez7174 'good killers' that probably not at top mmr or don't care about winning.

[@salvatore2004]

@@andresjimenez7174 real af

[@ItsJustTom]

@@andresjimenez7174 cus killer main that do complain complain for nothing.

[@shry7272]

The best way to play killer now is to slug whole team and hook them after that . The gen rush is the most frustrating thing I’ve seen even without perks or toolbox…

[@jameysotelo540]

The funny thing is the invocation buff is just making a permanent brand new part on every single gen in the trial for at most 60 seconds of a survivors time that killers can not regress pass no matter how much gen defence you hit it with if the invocation goes off which is all but confirmed now for survivors all the while next week on top of it survivors are most likely getting another invocation to pop alongside this. Have fun killers going to be even more rough in general

[@KOHoxton]

Nah, ill just be quitting if this shit goes through, went over a year without playing when the game was in a better state. Why bother now?

[@TwinTails99]

Dont you become broken after the Perk goes off? is that not a bad thing or am I missing something? I mainly soloq so everyone is running like chickens with their heads cut off not really doing much.

[@jameysotelo540]

@@TwinTails99 i believe you do but broken for a tiny bit for 10% i believe total progress for all 7 gens that cannot be reduced by a killer is a little strong not including whatever new invocation that is coming to stack with this current one

[@viipervenom4648]

@@jameysotelo540 no it's not they become broken stop being a sheep

[@jameysotelo540]

@@viipervenom4648 what do you mean lol i said they do in a previous comment but the fact you become broken is the least of your worries when you grant 10% of progress to all 7 gens that is permanent that a killer can never regress not including whatever new invocation that is coming in the D&D chapter next week

[@zman11335]

Casually nerfing all the meta gen defense, again. I mean, sure whatever floats your boat devs... idk

[@louis550]

It’s literally to the point where you can’t help but laugh, it’s like they’re doing it on purpose. Survivor is by a landslide the easier more enjoyable side of the game, the only hard part about it is you have to find 3 other competent players that don’t go down in 10 seconds by a god pallet, or jump in a locker the moment they hear the terror radius. It’s so bad and they completely bottle feed these players, it’s crazy how affective just holding forward after getting hit is, takes literally 0 skill but if the killer just goes for chases without strategy the gens will be done faster than you can down 4 survivors holding W 3 times each. 70% of my games I play I’m being chased forever and the 3 other survivors get 1 gen done when they could’ve easily had multiple. I can’t stand how terrible some players can be because how bad they’re is affecting game balance which shouldn’t EVER be the case.

[@hiagosantos2012]

Bury this game at once devs 😂😂, remove pop and pain ress from the game and see 80% of remaining killers quitting for good

[@viipervenom4648]

Killer playerbase has never been stronger or had as many killer players wtf r u talking about sheep

[@jack0f4lltrades28]

Tru3, the devs have gone against good survivors before. Did you forget Mathieu Cote playing Hag in South Korea which led to the flashlights getting nerfed? Watch it, it's bloody hilarious 😂

[@riafire7477]

Chucky is dead, pain res is dead, pop is dead, background players is probably stronger, buckle up is also probably just as good. Typical devs blatant survivor bias but no its only crybaby killers

[@bondrewd4831]

Because the devs are woke leftist and the survivor playerbase is filled with "wholesome, colored hair, rainbow people" compared to hunter playerbase

[@Cynwale]

@@bondrewd4831 Yeah, they're just bullies on a power trip because they own more money than us, so they can make all the games they want, own all the websites they want, and pretty much enforce all their little rules on everyone. And nobody even ask where the hell Soros got his first millions.

[@metalheadjake3339]

There is no point scampering as chucky in most cases now. Add ons that rely on chuvckys scamper is useless And just as I was becoming a chucky main. Guess I'll continue being a slinger main

[@soporific9212]

​@bondrewd4831 stupid ass comment. Their poor balancing decisions have nothing to do with their politics. I wish we'd stop validating the opinions of people with such weak and indoctrinated minds like yours.

[@PasarMahdi]

I always see people who watch Ayrun's videos say this game is killer sided like bruh lol

[@Bannerlordfor]

"the conditions to activate it aren't difficult" BRO WHAT? Unironically, how many killer conditions can you have that are more difficult? "Pop activates after downing all survivors without any gens being done while it is snowing on a Friday but the day must fall on the 17th of a month and all survivors must be playing jake. If the killer accomplishes this, they may regress one gen 1%!" Were the conditions to activate dead hard (E) just right? What about DS (get downed)? This genuinely has to be the worst reasoning for nerfing a perk. Its also funny that the devs don't realize that gen defense perks will always be used and meta. It will just cycle to the strongest one after the previous one gets nerfed...

[@breadboi2135]

Thank god I dont play this game anymore. The devs every time they realese an update frustrate me, among a bunch of other issues. I just like watching Tru3 play games

[@user-mg6bk2yy1g]

So worse gen regression? Time to tunnel, slug, tunnel, slug, tunnel, slug etc

[@verandream6675]

Hey, that's toxic, survivor mains don't like that. Guess they need DS base kit now

[@Miguels4ntos101]

So, nothing new?

[@Musuri2000]

Cry about it killer main hahaha that was obviosuly they gona nerf pain res and pop like they do with surv meta after some time every meta gona be nerfed

[@ettubrute197]

Please do this. I want a reason to use boon: exponential.

[@verandream6675]

@@Musuri2000 Tell me a meta survivor perk that got nerfed as hard as a killer meta perk

[@vraxialidv9362]

Devs haven't got a fking clue, theyre so bias its cringe 😂

[@KozyGamer15]

These devs clearly prefer survivors. Idk how killer mains still play this.

[@majincookie5716]

I main survivor but I also play killer. Seeing them nerf pain res and pop is super stupid. Sometimes I still get 1k-2k even while running those perks. That’s sucks for the killers mains

[@albertosusy1649]

You dont need pain res and pop to win the game tho.

[@flegmaniac3462]

​@@albertosusy1649Not against weak survivors. Play against a organised swf with Freddy and see the gens fly in 4-5 minutes.

[@jakepark9783]

@@albertosusy1649tell me u don’t play killer at high level without tellin me u play killer at high level imo☠️

[@katnumb1692]

​@@jakepark9783"high level" bro dbd is a party game

[@jakepark9783]

@@katnumb1692 dbd isn’t a party game imo

[@illNicola]

I don't even know what to say with this patch, I ran out of words and all I was left with were insults towards this incompetence. They kill Chucky, they nerf slowdowns heavily, they don't buff anything on return in order to vary the meta. They don't even want to create gameplay that requires skill. Literally the scamper's counter is not to camp pallets, which apparently survs are not capable of doing. Then they say that tunneling is a problem in nerf Wesker, and instead of creating other perks that incentivize mixed hooks they nerf the ONLY 2 that slightly incentivize them. I wouldn't be surprised if Vecna had 1 or more very strong slowdowns and this was just a strategy to force people to shop the new chapter. The only thing these Devs are interested in is making sure that survs shop as many skins as possible.

[@shmoneydance6238]

Do people only just play with Survivor or Killer strictly why everyone saying they main one or the other 😂

[@axe6268]

I think this update is a 9/10 tbh, only thing I truly disagreed with was the pop nerf. otherwise I felt everything in it was solid changes

[@Emre976]

I believe devs haven’t played killers in this game😂

[@constipatedsheep6864]

Genuinely the worst devs in gaming history. I cannot for the life of me understand how this game hasn't died

[@andreidragomir5360]

You don't play the game, you can't understand how it works by that statement

[@constipatedsheep6864]

@@andreidragomir5360 Typical statement from someone who doesn't know shit. How about some actual talking points

[@jakepark9783]

@@andreidragomir5360huh💀?

[@ObiWanCannoli95]

Because they add content every 2-3 months, without this the game would have been dead a long time ago

[@andreidragomir5360]

@@jakepark9783 he has no ideea what he's on abt

[@billygoten]

So, we have found that survivors cannot possibly get someplace safe in the amount of time it takes to remove another survivor from a hook. This led to many situations where a survivor would get downed by the killer while trying to rescue a teammate. We have given survivors who are hit while unhooking a teammate a 4 minute and 13 second invincibility timer, and if they are downed while unhooking a teammate, they get a temporary special recover bar that fills at four times normal speed and once it is full, the survivor gets a one-time Unbreakable and Adrenaline trigger (per unhook event). Finally, for balance purposes, we are reinstating being able to be grabbed while unhooking a teammate. If grabbed while unhooking a teammate, all hooks on the map will be permanently disabled. -actually what fkn BHVR does

[@schnoxi5751]

made for this, buckle up and for the people could be the new meta. made for this gives you endurance while picking up a survivor and with buckle up the downed survivor can run straight to alaska with his 150% speed. And if the killer hits you you also gain 3%haste from made for this

[@Bigunce69]

Maybe you’re on to something with MFT 🤔

[@andreidragomir5360]

Yeah bro but it's going to be soo much worse than ftp buckle up simply because it takes 3 perk slots

[@schnoxi5751]

@@andreidragomir5360 We do not care.

[@andreidragomir5360]

@@schnoxi5751 I mean you writing you huge comment means you care about this typa stuff

[@schnoxi5751]

@@andreidragomir5360 I only care about balancing. This no skill perk combo was a lose lose situation for the killer. And it is/was very unhealthy for dbd.

[@spaghettiwizard2551]

I would be okay with the scamper change if they would give him his 180 flicks back

[@mpsins]

The bubba patch notes got me half chubbed

[@chuckp342]

I'm a bubba enjoyer from way back and I barely see him in the wild anymore.

[@IKnowWhatYouDid3]

I truly feel happy for you guys, Bubba mains eating good but my Wesky boi is getting the shotgun treatment 😔

[@alelion3539]

Don't forget that Light Chassis still has the fake rev tech exploit attached that lets you see auras for free.

[@chuckp342]

@@IKnowWhatYouDid3 noooooo! What's happening to wesker? Ugh, heading to patch notes now.

[@IKnowWhatYouDid3]

@@chuckp342 they nerfed his hindered from his 8% to 4% which is a massive nerf😔

[@UBRprax]

Chuckles addon that revealed auras of survivors when scampering just became his worst one, I loved that addon

[@alexmax3502]

I don't know why killer mains still play this game, can you guys tell me what's the enjoyment in being masochists? normally in S&M relations the S gives both abuse and care, but.... the devs only give abuse here, so why do you guys enjoy it?

[@francisparkeryockey4891]

I uninstalled it today after seeing news, here is my answer

[@unicode0059]

@@francisparkeryockey4891 good... no one will miss u 😂😂 the game is survivors sided and as killer main I understood this long time ago this game can't be balanced since there's solo q, swf is overpowered they need to make 2 modes to be fair so ppl stop complaining! casual and try hard 🤣🤣 casual is what we have now... try hard is balanced version same as dbdl ffs when they gonna do that?!

[@mungoman540]

The characters are fun to play but the game itself isn't.

[@johncabrera9745]

Man imagine adding perks with the sole purpose of slowing or shortly halting the only objective that survivors need to work on by seconds then afterwards continuously nerf it until its useless cause it's a inconvenience for survivors quality of life. Like man the dev are thinking killers should only catch and hook survivors the gens are not important you know the one thing survivors need to finish to escape, the same gens that take 90 sec's for a single survivors without perks, tools, and no great SC to complete the devs are bias as hell in a game where the killers are supposed to be strong

[@renanlopes9400]

Well... I guess they are celebrating their 8th anniversary by pushing players away from the game lol Dark age of DBD incoming

[@goldensand692]

Of course! Nerfing the killer power, addons, and the gens slow down perks. Harder to chase the survs (killer power and addons nerf) harder to defend the gens or camp the gens (gens def perks nerf), idk what i should do when playing the killer. Good job. I have a suggestion devs, instead of this subtle thing, why not decrease the gens to 3/4 from 5 instead, or add 1 more surv, so it's 1 vs 5 (that's good right, more friends can play the game together 😎), so that we all know the direction of the game clearly.

[@Gian_sas]

Thing is the game has 0 chase perks. The best chase perk in the entire game for killer is a hex that blocks pallets around 32 m of a hit. yep, that's it, completely counterable by holding forward and doesn't last more than early game. Maybe if they ever added relevant chase perks people would stop using gen regression and switch builds to a more pressure like approach. I think they're just afraid of killing solo q but it's their fault for not adding vc already.

[@gigure9411]

Even by Tru3 standards this a huge L take (how does he do it??) This developer update was widely considered by every dbd player I’d talked to about it to be the biggest W developer update in ages with like no changes being really bad and many changes being ones that community really desperately wanted. The developers have done right by the community (my sample representing ‘the community’ is mainly taken from both my own friends and from Hens’ and Otz’s discord server, where there are more killer mains than survivor mains). I’ll address each other your takes in order that they appear in the dev update: Chucky: Massive L take from you as this was exactly the change I wanted for him. I’ve played a lil Chucky and scamper into slice n dice took a whole no skill to do (seriously it didn’t) and made like literally any pallet filler in the game completely unsafe for a surv. Even killers like Blight, spirit, plague (corrupt purge) don’t quite have that. This was unfair asf for the survs. At least now survs can actually pre drops some pallets to have some form of safety (though even then a lot of dropped pallets will be kinda unsafe against chucky’s power anyway). The 12 second cool-down is also huge, as now he can simply get his hits way more frequently so if surv doesn’t have safe pallet pre drop that’s just way quicker downs. The Cannibal: What the hell is your problem with making addons basekit? Bubba’s biggest issue was widely considered to be his addon dependency as like good luck using his chainsaw around any loop without addons. Now he won’t need addons so much if some non-bubba player wants to just hop on and play some bubba. At worst for you it simply won’t make a difference and at best, well, they may give a couple addons nerfs smaller than his basekit buffs so it may buff him overall anyway. The Deathslinger: I honestly don’t care for this change and believe it wasn’t entirely necessary, though, respectfully, I don’t know what you are on when you’re saying that “he should be 115 while reloading” NO HE SHOULDN’T THAT WOULD BE BROKEN. He already has the opportunity to 2 tap survs with the right addons anyway. The Mastermind: you didn’t have much to say here but like yeah this change was actually so good because it made Wesker take no skill as you could just tunnel an infect surv off hook really easily even if you weren’t good with his power. This will make players need to get better with his chase power to achieve similar results, which, like, GOOD! The Blight: I just want them to stop changing his addons every 2 seconds man… Toolboxes: I actually kinda agree that they’re overdoing it if they buff addons because it buffs Alex’s Toolbox which is already pretty powerful in the right hands. But buffing other toolboxes to lean more toward sabo would be a W change as the average player doesn’t have 10000 Alex’s toolboxes, so this is nice and bonus points if they subsequently nerf the gen speed increase on them. Deadlock: I didn’t see this as entirely necessary but it’s not insanely impactful. Background player: This is a nerf overall (THANK GOD), though I also think the buff isn’t really necessary but at the same time, there’d be little reason to run it over sprint burst if it had the same exhaustion. So I kinda get why they did it though tbh I’d just like the perk to be reworked IMO. Grim Embrace: Still gonna be stupidly powerful bc you can run it with DMS, which they have not nerfed, to always forcefully activate DMS whenever Grim Embrace kicks a surv off a gen. I think your take about it not being that strong to begin with is flat out wrong as it’s overpowered af and the only way you’re not getting much value is if you’re tunnelling too much 🤥. Decisive Strike: I’m actually completely with you on this, they never shoulda buffed it, 3 seconds was fine, people are just bad at the game and would use it out of position and get downed. Perk shouldn’t be buffed to compensate for a skill issue. Pop Goes The Weasel: This never shoulda been buffed to 30% my guy. 20% current progress was what it was nerfed to originally for a reason. And it’s still gonna be good when you consider the now 5% bonus base kit regression from kicking a gen. Kicking a 99% gen? It’s basically old pop. Get over yourself. Buckle Up: Thank god this was changed, Jesus Christ thank god. This change is honestly pretty nice as it’s not going to synergies with FTP that well at all, aside from specifically when being used on a surv who is getting tunnelled, which is what FTP alone has always been good for anyway. Pain Res: Yeah 25% has been a lot, not absolutely broken, but a lot. 20% is fine. I’ll still use Pain Res on killer bc it’s like automatic gen slowdown that you get from hooking different survs. Still my kind of perk. And no, “gen rushing” is not a massive problem. That’s called survivors doing gens. Crazy. The issue with gen speed usually boils down to issues in chases, which like for the most part, skill issue, but the genuine issues are maps like badham being broken af for surv or killers like Myers being insanely weak in chase. Weaving Spiders: This might turn out a bit overpowered, but I understand the devs are tryna experiment to “get this perk right” as currently it’s really weak. Welp, that’s about it. My man you are obscenely biased.

[@syn4621]

im not reading allat

[@MrBunit90]

I really want to see the win rate of the killers in high elo vs low elo. We know the devs have this info via the skill check percentage data they presented before. The constant nerfs to gen progression feels like they are trying to get an average win rate instead of addressing being bad vs good.

[@m00tes]

bro, these devs never disappoint. Yet you still find people that are going to defend them to their grave, fucking hell i am glad i left this game 3 years ago.

[@pinggu.]

I think the process for selecting changes in Behavior is they make a spinning wheel with changes and then cut a chicken’s head offf and wherever it lands it’s the change they make.

[@a_waff1es_0pinion76]

No, the processes if a killer perk is used a lot they nerf it, and killers complain about a broken survivor perk they slightly nerf it and leave survivors with just a slap on the wrist

[@budanico]

pretty cool update, looking forward to it. Specially if true thinks it's bad

[@IKnowWhatYouDid3]

Bro really came here to vomit survivor main delusion 💀

[@budanico]

@@IKnowWhatYouDid3Yes, everyone is a main survivor and also everyone you play against is top MMR. Cry more 🤣🤣🤣

[@liamx3x]

@@IKnowWhatYouDid3 cry

[@IKnowWhatYouDid3]

@@budanico thanks for proving my point kiddo🤡

[@IKnowWhatYouDid3]

@@liamx3x even more proof? You guys spoil me

[@Guntfarm]

"we want to make this less effective while also keeping it rewarding" then they just nerf it and dont give anything to keep it rewarding?

[@fireclone42]

I still think its hilarious that Scott, who is a massive bully amongst the fog whisperers, has become the vocal point for the developers. Truthfully its like they've begun only listening to him. The games in a bad place, but we're stuck here because there is not a current viable dbd alternative. Scott is extremely survivor sided and masquerades as a killer main. His killer matches are all against baby survivors and he acts as though he is any sort of good. People like that are acting as the community mouth piece.

[@viipervenom4648]

He wins a higher percentage of his killer games then true does doesn't that make him better

[@fireclone42]

@@viipervenom4648 not if Scott's MMR is lower. It's easy to win against the survivors scott plays against.

[@TheBraddy2610]

​@@fireclone42 Wow. Bro must've hacked the game. Wins most of his matches but remains low MMR 😂 Literally read what you're putting man

[@fireclone42]

@TheBraddy2610 have you actually watched Scott's gameplay? He plays a majority of survivor and very few killer matches. When you consider that every killer has its own MMR, within a certain point, it's easy for scott to win. Moreover, how are you defending someone who is regarded as DBD's biggest bully?

[@Musuri2000]

@@fireclone42at least he doesnt cry about every single thing like true does dude 🤡 i watched last true stream and he got 3/4k win like 70% of his matches go cry about how „surv sided this game still is” like you killermains literally stuck in 2018 and thinks its still surv sided game 🤡 just be better instead of talking shit if you cryin that much in 2024 when this game is l killer sided

[@pvdg3515]

I think the chucky changes is actually huge. He doesn't need to slice n dice to break pallet, just manually kick it like another killer and your power is 12 seconds now. 12 seconds is such a huge change because its also his terror radius hiding ability. I think hes more powerful now.

[@Ghosta085]

tru3 literally cant do math it is insane. bubba is getting engravings and purple chilli in his basekit. unless they make the addons literally 0% its a bubba buff. and then hes astonished when people flame him for being stupid.

[@astarianott4099]

buckle up, made for this, for the people, dead hard someone may need to test if FTP is considered a 'healing action' to trigger MFT endurance

[@Cris-ge2lh]

Devs never played this game it seems

[@mynameisjeff3940]

I don’t play this game almost at all but it seems to me that that there is never gonna be a good ending to this tug of war between gen regression and gen progression perks. Nerfing base gen speeds would not likely stop killers who want to win from using gen regression, and nerfing gen regression isn’t gonna stop survivors who want to win from using gen progression. Why not remove all gen regression and progression perks and adjust base gen speeds accordingly. That way the doors are opened for more interesting builds.

[@mr.quasar7358]

The worst fucking notes I've read in a while. I just came back to the game and already, not only did they nerf my previous gen regression perks (Brine, Overcharge, etc) but now they are re-fucking up Pop AND Pain Res... already I lose 2-3 gens first chase when playing a weaker killer... wtf are they doing to this game

[@ItsJustTom]

stop using only gen regression perk. youll get a downs faster

[@KOHoxton]

​@@ItsJustTomthats not really true, on top of the fact that you'll just lose the gens during the hooking and walking to the gen, in which you can damage it base kit for what...5% then you leave and it gets done within 20 seconds, nice choice lmao.

[@ItsJustTom]

@@KOHoxton that almost sounds like a skill issue. Maybe if people started getting better at chasing and stopped relying on OP gen regress perk to slow down the long enough to make up for their lack of chasing skills. They would actually get downs faster. And lets be clear. Most killer will run 2-3 gen regress/block perks. not because they are needed but because they are op

[@Smoke36051]

​@ItsJustTom It's doesn't matter if you do well in chase. If survivers are efficient with gens that's it its over.

[@KOHoxton]

@@ItsJustTom yeah this skill issue shit is only coming from you bottom mmr guys, if you're dominating as killer without slowdown perks, i got news for ya baby. You're not high mmr lol

[@klice315]

Killers that I play against slug, tunnel, and camp with gen slow down… idk how it can be worse. Also I feel like buckle up will see almost 0 use now.

[@LoneWolfe_XX]

I feel as if Chucky scamper being Nerf was a great touch. He was almost un loopable.

[@etl2474]

The new buckle up feels like something from a movie, where right before the killer swings, the survivors get some burst of energy and run away. Anything that takes away annoying endurance stuff is fine with me.

[@kinyon2555]

Keep nerfing killers while keeping survivors at nearly full power great balancing guys

[@castleflutes]

@@samuraituff9653 you typing like a 10yo go to bed lil bro

[@viipervenom4648]

@@castleflutes u got little dick energy

[@hush9185]

@@castleflutes are you're not? lol

[@dommassa2667]

Another trash and unskilled NPC killer whining lmao what a joy seeing you crying so much you can't believe that

[@caspermarzec3514]

Background player 200 --> 150% movement speed "you've just put 50% off" ( feels like he's saying: "halving exhaustion but removing 50% movement speed sounds like a buff") Mastermind 8 --> 4% "that's actually really big"

[@caspermarzec3514]

I do agree that mastermind is big but the background player change forces players to be way closer with the reduced movement speed which makes it way less safe (good)

[@syn4621]

if you main killer just stop playing, if every killer main stops playing killer they would HAVE TO BUFF killer back again, vote with your time/money and let them know ur unhappy

[@alexandretellini2677]

I guess that they are probably preparing this changes antecipating some new perks or features. Right now it smells bad. Really bad.

[@shonenbat6553]

Patch notes like this explains why the studios other games suck so much, they have no idea how to make a game. I will never understand how DbD survives despite their best efforts to destroy it.

[@ailphone4120]

I firmly believe that the devs do realize why people use gen regression perks and want to majorly nerf gen speeds, but balancing extreme changes takes time. Between the anniversary and the Casting of Frank Stone, the devs have had their work cut out for them until they have time to make some real changes they’ll continue these easy number tweaks to high performing perks.

[@denoetta]

Weaving spiders will be so meta. The gens will fly crazy

[@notbeanster4032]

mfw a patch has some of the healthiest-sounding meta changes the game has had in years

[@canonpunt4725]

I’m gonna be the dark horse here, I think all of these changes are amazing y’all are just wrong

[@eridiance9818]

you’re the darkest donkey in the comment section

[@bg0nz_]

i’m with u

[@O_acelippy]

It is baffling reading through this comment section lmao. These are good changes on both sides.

[@LargeToastie]

Yeah the update is fine. It's not like the changes to the killer perks are going to make them unusable. Killer mains will always complain when there is a nerf, same with survivor mains about their own perks (see Adrenaline which was a fine nerf. Perk is still really good)

[@canonpunt4725]

@@LargeToastie thing is I’m a killer main (skull merchant 😍) and I know I’m a little based but I don’t think we need slowdown to win

[@MortusVanDerHell]

If they wanted to solve the problem with the gene defence necessities in one fell swoop, they could simply make 6 gens as a necessity instead of 5 to open the gates. That wouldn't take much more time, but it would effectively be the counterpart to one or two gene defence perks, allowing the killer to take other perks without going down immediately. And it's a change that the Survivors can still make up for with teamplay.