Reacting to the "Shut Up" Challenge

Reacting to the "Shut Up" Challenge
ORIGINAL VIDEO: ( • SHUT UP CHALLENGE 😭CO... )

[@Jireninyourrecommendations]

Everyone gangsta til the disabled father start standing up

[@ajohnny3561]

Im going to hell for laughing at this

[@Rahil.370]

Lmao

[@Hunterakhi]

Omfg 😂😂😂😂😂

[@cassiusfelix2805]

You know it's real now

[@anorange7900]

@Chidube J Opara WHAT DID HE JUST SAY!!

[@nle_init2751]

I just love how Ethan is so open about making jokes bout his dad

[@kellyrobinsonx665]

well tbf i’m the same, if i don’t laugh i’ll cry it’s pretty much my only way of coping with him leaving shahaha

[@OK-fn5is]

Joking about It doesn't mean he is happy with it, depressed people usually make a lot of jokes, a friend of mine his mother died and he wanted to be the clown of the class. Always making jokes and the one to make the class laugh. Great guy, hated staying at home always played outside

[@yeetxdbeanoof4322]

but he still can't take a joke from phil

[@Sergio-wm5du]

@@kellyrobinsonx665 lol

[@aminekitouni9943]

@@yeetxdbeanoof4322 facts

[@todor92]

The last guy was like.. so instant that the guy recording didn't have time to say it's a prank, hahah

[@-ninjanOodlez]

Sadly that one was fake. The stfu was taken from another video where a pre-school teacher is greeting the students. A kid responded with that. The teacher told him not to do that again, so he called her a b*tch. He was dragged out the classroom. Here’s a link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZu9onWwbrCKa9E

[@Relaxjit]

@@-ninjanOodlez “do you need to go outside?” “NO B*TCH” 🤣🤣

[@camrencross645]

@@Relaxjit lol, that kid was on a WOOOOLE other level.

[@cassiusfelix2805]

I know right

[@schnauzehunter8282]

“Husband defending his wife” 12yr olds: SIMP

[@schnauzehunter8282]

@Cahinho this is sad☹️

[@diego_bass8227]

@Cahinho 193

[@hydrex5659]

@@schnauzehunter8282 3/10 comment btw imma official comment rater

[@skylarkerr8730]

@@hydrex5659 a bad one

[@hydrex5659]

@@skylarkerr8730 LOL

[@TristanFieli]

Little Tobi :"'SHUT UP!" Tobi's parents : *SO YOU HAVE CHOSEN DEATH*

[@wisedwon]

*Tobi is seen doing prayers while doing push-ups with bibles on his back getting whipped*

[@typea5426]

@@wisedwon funny

[@user-lj6pt9xr8h]

*A terrible story about - Sidemen* ommggg kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs

[@tovotunes]

Little Ethan: shut up Dad: 🧳🏃🏽‍♂️

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Gino

[@Jurassic_Ws]

I clicked faster than JJ can say: *”OH SHUT UP MAN!”*

[@expert___]

"I think its Josh"

[@Jurassic_Ws]

@@expert___ lol

[@realinprod]

Low effort post. Babatunde is salty today

[@brendafancy7033]

@@expert___ kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Wsh5Ktj7GbfK8

[@brendafancy7033]

@@realinprod kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Wsh5Ktj7GbfK8

[@alysiahughes4687]

3:15 tobi looks like he's on the verge of crying

[@xannyy905]

I thought I was the only 1 who saw that💀

[@vendjeslab6445]

Flashbacks lol

[@ella-zi7hy]

whole video😭😭

[@johnadams877]

Little Ethan: Shut up! His dad: *cricket noises*

[@cradezclan4889]

Just heads up you are going to hell

[@JJJackson777]

@@cradezclan4889 shut up

[@breathingdisorder4850]

@@cradezclan4889 shut up

[@itsyaboyjay9862]

@@cradezclan4889 shut up

[@grandmasternarginder5435]

@@cradezclan4889 shut up

[@aidanmann5968]

Ethan: "I only have one so I couldn't do it "Ooh self burn, those are rare"

[@SantoryuAshura]

Aidan MANN Nine Nine!!

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2263]

Zygomatic

[@dailyentertainment5460]

Next time put a time stamp bruh

[@johnnykush6022]

He says "I don't have one" what would "I only have one (father)" even mean??

[@BoboDerryYT999]

Welcome back the 3 Nigerians for the sidemen 😁✌

[@fgip358]

Shut up

[@nds1116]

Shut up

[@kevinkang6308]

100th like

[@cheseeboytv7655]

Shut up

[@cheseeboytv7655]

@@JaheemSoSaucy shut up

[@waterman1924]

Imagine, an evil mum refusing to say it's a prank. Lol😂

[@justsomeguywithglasses6827]

That would be personal grudge 😂

[@Techmoblad]

AYO NAH THE KIDS BETTER SCRAM

[@-SimonRiley]

She's gonna pay the price during the divorce

[@garrettmills8127]

I’d never do this, my dad doesn’t yell, he has mastered “the look” where if he looks at me a certain way I know to either shut up or run

[@dev9087]

When you’re so early that you beat the guy sending virtual hugs

[@DanishKhan-qo4gj]

Facts

[@BobBob-ex7ft]

Hahah 😂

[@cs7_z]

😂😂

[@manuel8731]

Xd

[@owenc12]

First

[@vaibhavdaniel2782]

The sidemen have pulled me out of my depression and loneliness.

[@malachymccabe3772]

You lonely

[@Lushy2904]

@@malachymccabe3772 I don’t wanna sound stupid... But I can’t tell if what your saying is a joke or not?

[@salazar4395]

@@malachymccabe3772 I bet you're one of the kids that appeared in this video lmao, you are abused and traumatized

[@malachymccabe3772]

@@salazar4395 yes I'm so scared

[@animeyoyoqueen]

AWWWW

[@ihkl2919]

Tobi: if this was in my house I'll be dead *tobi having flashbacks with tears in his eyes

[@fanofav123]

Ethan: Assumes all Americans own a ranch and have a grill outside

[@aidan8614]

wdym lol everyone in America owns a ranch has a grill and multiple guns

[@goofyahhnigga]

He ain't wrong tho...

[@AmusedOrange]

@@aidan8614 and lives at least one block away from a mcdonalds

[@Dr-Pip]

Legit though they do be fair xD

[@yikes6532]

@@AmusedOrange As an American, the Mcdonald's statement is accurate

[@kericque7573]

Even if my mom said "it's a joke " my dad would have still killed me

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Vin

[@nepals2409]

For real

[@karthikramprakash]

Then: This is Harry's Channel. Now: This is JJs Channel.

[@brendafancy7033]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Wsh5Ktj7GbfK8

[@thefedooo7230]

I don't mind that at all!!

[@iwantsexseemyvideo6250]

Mini

[@mr.7476]

*A terrible story about - Sidemen* ommmhh kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs

[@rita25y.o-checkmyvideo27]

👝🍉

[@sambrown1144]

The difference between Tobi's and Ethan's face when the kids said shut up really shows their different childhoods

[@beechtobiasyt7947]

3:10 he's literally crying bc he is thinking abt the shit that gonna happen if he did that 😂😂😂

[@thandekakamanga4845]

3:16 the tears in tobi's eyes. this man has seen things

[@casualcheetah1908]

only person that needs to shut up is jake paul let’s be honest

[@zooshleo2698]

ITS FAXXX

[@beastunleashed4498]

Yes

[@Dchopra]

Frr

[@eaglebearer]

Really low effort comment. 0/10

[@JaheemSoSaucy]

Aye I'm asking if I could get 100 likes on my newest video(I've been grinding for 5 months now)..

[@jimbo5686]

2:59 That "BOI GET DOWN HERE" 😂

[@jlong718]

1:30 “Hold my beer...”

[@mxlz]

People who already say shut up to their mum be like: "why is this such a big deal"

[@maddyuchiha9786]

@javier atteen yeh

[@iBaCKeYeZz]

*white kids

[@mxlz]

@@iBaCKeYeZz lmao

[@elongatedmusk9611]

Would not have said it cause I have respect, but I sure as hell would not be scared of getting beaten if I did, my parents are no damn psychos lol

[@mxlz]

@viC so ur just admitting ur disrespectful

[@retrobit5973]

Hey, maybe Ethan should say Shut Up to his mom. Then his dad might show up...

[@nemo9529]

yooooooooo omg LMAO

[@akashsrikanth6781]

💀💀💀

[@mr.7476]

*A terrible story about - Sidemen* broookjer kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs

[@ayrtona.k3376]

why mans doing this 😭😭😭

[@malakaburas2003]

LMAOOOO

[@riahharman7178]

If the only reason your kids ‘respect’ you is because they’re scared of being hurt by you, that isn’t respect.

[@Szolrykor]

and that's the case for like 0.01% of cases, because in all the others getting slapped up just means the kid learns authority and consequences a lot faster, and learns to respect their parents a lot easier

[@MixR700]

@@Szolrykor Literally every respected study on child psychology has shown that is a lie. Physical punishment leads to behavior issues, social issues, and does not attribute to successful adults.

[@gf1x119]

Well tbf I was a little shit when I was younger and I got slapped a lot but now that I'm older I realise that if my kid was me when I was younger I would be annoyed aswell

[@mr.lithuanianboy9557]

I wouldn’t even get time to say it’s joke I am on the ground dead

[@BoboDerryYT999]

Please Do not Try This With An African Parent. Please don't 😁💥😥

[@fgip358]

Shut up

[@realinprod]

I have African parents I got in trouble for wearing a hoodie in the car and they took my PS4 and laptop for 3 weeks

[@ibk2205]

@@realinprod LMAOOOOOOOO

[@jibin9109]

indian also counts

[@BoboDerryYT999]

@@realinprod lol

[@thomaswibrew3303]

Who is excited for today’s sidemen Sunday

[@Ehsan-iw5yt]

Who u nonce

[@findlaysmith4971]

Me

[@carmv1262]

Yessuh

[@DavidZLevett]

R u

[@sb1539]

Meeeeeee!!!!!!!

[@TheMightySausaaj]

JJ and Tobi watching the clips with attentive intensity because they can imagine themselves in that situation as child. I get the feeling Ethan had abit more of a free upbringing, so the clips didn't phase him as much.

[@kaitlingraceffa3860]

0:35 the dog boutta run up too LOL😂

[@cosmicgiraffe4071]

Growing up w an abusive parent, waiting for the dad’s reaction was so scary lmfao

[@salazar4395]

how does it feel like, bullying kids to get your anger out

[@salazar4395]

@@user-whomst but he is laughing about it like it means nothing, he probably agrees to the abuse, i could be wrong though

[@tovotunes]

@@salazar4395 yea the lmfao pretty sus

[@theCelticDragon1]

@@salazar4395 "agrees to the abuse" what his own? I went through similar but some things that are relatable are funny, gallows humour.

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2263]

Thin

[@jrdestroyer5922]

These bots need to participate in the SHUT UP challenge

[@kausthita11]

Underrated comment right here

[@mr.7476]

*A terrible story about - Sidemen* ommmg omg kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Funk

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2263]

Uhh

[@iwantsexseemyvideo1512]

Uhh

[@codmw2bestia]

As someone from Dallas, it made me happy to see y’all give Dirk the recognition he deserves!

[@axsgotgame]

If I said that to my parents I be dead by know i wouldn't even be here right now

[@rishiboominathan25]

They should have reacted to the one Deji did

[@user-lj6pt9xr8h]

*A terrible story about - Sidemen* lokliii kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Sexton

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2263]

Hunk

[@iwantsexseemyvideo1512]

Cybil

[@mrwiseguy7405]

Jj tries this with his parents... Here lies olajide olatunji 2020 May he rest in peace

[@10969sinan]

Deji actually did the challenge check it out

[@brendafancy7033]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Wsh5Ktj7GbfK8

[@blopp6240]

@@vi-plus cringe i still disliked it to help you not get ever recommended

[@xandercat6948]

"QnA Sunday with my mum" Ye no he wouldn't

[@liamomaonaigh9743]

Deji did it in fairness

[@SomeonesNeighbor]

I just love how most of the kids are kinda away from their dads before doing it. They know whats gonna happen if they are within arms reach, they're getting whooped.

[@bonksma1754]

5:30 tobi went full dolphin mode

[@sandy3938]

i'm really uncomfortable watching this lol im not gonna lie

[@mr.7476]

*A terrible story about - Sidemen* saaamee kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs

[@godddamnnb7442]

Why?

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Koko

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2263]

Gun

[@MixR700]

I feel this too, I'm an adult now, but even if I would've said this to my parents, I would've been sat down and told how its rude and been told to apologize, because my parents understood when we were growing up that assault doesn't teach anything.... how quick some of these parents were to jump up and hit their kids is..... weird

[@ransoms9981]

I love when Ethan does the reaction videos, his laugh is amazing and it’s so contagious

[@terminator5084]

You want appi theetam thoori go to appi poori theetam

[@matias9646]

Ofc Ethan didn't know this existed xD Banger video again, love you guys

[@TadW1lder]

the black guy in the red shirt at 8:35 didnt even let the boy finish. He just yeeted a pot at him when he heard stf and went spiderman mode

[@leoouyang1678]

This is something Deji would do with his dad and prank his mom

[@davidbecerra1]

He did actually. On his channel

[@dxe4582]

He did this to his dad

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Zoo

[@jethroy8809]

@@davidbecerra1 it was a skit though

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2263]

Thin

[@mathewmua6028]

The funniest “shut up “ vid isn’t there where the kid run underneath the table to flee away from his dad😆😆

[@GadzieGadanie]

And thats on abusive parenting

[@sultanmansooor]

@@GadzieGadanie thats a father who teaches his kids to respect their mom

[@lesethzzz3675]

@@GadzieGadanie u dont know about discipline then

[@imnotcreative2534]

@@lesethzzz3675. Yeah, because showing aggression and lacking effective forms of communication that you display in front of and towards impressionable minds is a good thing. Sounds like a lack of education and cave people ways to me

[@dsithole_16]

@@imnotcreative2534 shut up 😂😂

[@jaimerubio6224]

1:04 "ey pendejo" 😂😂😂

[@jeremymerejeremy]

My dad is the type of guy who wouldn't do this challenge because he died years ago.

[@purechi_]

...

[@austinray5097]

That one kid that kills the vibe of the conversation

[@tabicious53]

F

[@GrimNHTl]

rip

[@umxr.7]

The first have had use but then oof😥😥

[@OK-fn5is]

"he was about to kill her" ethan: oh i like this challenge

[@thedemonunderurbed6492]

5:43 ksi's damn was perfect

[@erabbytyqi]

i’ve been waiting for this trio for years

[@lils2968]

Me: *trying to do the shut up challenge in African home* Mom: "come here" Me: shut u- Slipper: *dashes into my face*

[@brendafancy7033]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Wsh5Ktj7GbfK8

[@nabeldharir91]

It would be a bless if it's just a slipper 😂

[@aryamanpaul8017]

Fam a slipper is minimum you’re lucky you didn’t get your head smashed in

[@nabeldharir91]

@@aryamanpaul8017 i hope you didn't get the belt like me for something far less important 😂

[@aryamanpaul8017]

@@nabeldharir91 bruh the belt,the slipper,the hand everything mate 😂😂

[@theenigma2861]

Just when I thought Tik Tok couldn't get any worse, now let's test how easily parents are gonna beat their kids

[@ItMeRishi]

Ikr lmao. If a kid ever says this the solution isn’t to beat their ass. That’s only gonna make them think of worse shit and keep it to themselves.

[@stark8363]

@@ItMeRishi tbh both sides are wrong since the kid shouldn't be disrespectful and sometimes being nice about doesnt help at all they just think everytime they do something wrong they get the easy way.

[@keldsbases]

@@stark8363 Your kid can never do anything wrong enough to get physically hurt, its abuse, no exceptions.

[@snoop_official]

my friend didn't get any consequences like this, and the result was that he constantly disrespected them and kept telling them to shut the fuck up

[@keldsbases]

@@snoop_official You can do so many more things than physically hurt your kids to discipline them. Never saying No to kids is not the best solution, would still dare to say its better than hitting your kids.

[@stevefrantskevich9678]

My parents have been fighting a lot recently and I've been crying myself to sleep. This is the only thing that calms me down.

[@youcandoit2220]

I hope you are fine now.

[@gorahott8647]

cause by your stink mom

[@evathomas3684]

tobis face at 3:38m is priceless

[@ranveerraj2337]

Imagine if the parent doing the prank just switches it up and doesn’t say its a prank

[@iwantsexseemyvideo6250]

Yugo

[@user-lj6pt9xr8h]

*A terrible story about - Sidemen* moorree kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs kzbin.info/www/bejne/qna5pqCmp6mmobs

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Syn

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2263]

Thin

[@iwantsexseemyvideo1512]

Gibbon

[@onejediboi]

The Asian and African kids are most in danger from this challenge

[@thiccnick5462]

Nah latino kids are

[@Ra111den]

Any minority parents

[@onejediboi]

@@Ra111den pretty sure Asians are the majority...

[@thiccnick5462]

@@Ra111den facts

[@agx8447]

Hispanics

[@servant691]

Ironic thing is these kids probably are the most disciplined and respectful kids

[@HardCounter]

The parents should reverse the prank on the kid, where the mum doesn't tell the dad it's a prank 🤣

[@chigglewiggle7868]

69 likes noice 😏

[@akashsrikanth6781]

Imma say shutup to Simon and wait to see how JJ reacts😂😂

[@kaqzzy1236]

😐

[@owownwowlson8524]

Tobi at 4:41: 👁️👄👁️

[@TPCider]

defo need to do a part 2 for this ... cracked me up

[@loxic98]

9:10 What was that “byeeee” by Ethan

[@rikittu]

This makes me feel so thankful to have the kind of parents that I have

[@EmaAtwell]

same especially since it seems like everyone in the comments relates. i do not and i dont understand why this is apparently normal.

[@rahulsreekumar2562]

Alright.what would've your parents done?

[@ilyamuntyan3086]

@@rahulsreekumar2562 notice how you haven’t gotten a response 😂

[@rich.o4]

@ found the spoiled kid

[@JacobMeza-pro-footballer]

Nah trust, it's good to have parents like that, builds character

[@Emannjyc]

the clip @ 1:46 is a perfect example of why we cant really say much as a hispanic😭

[@redainaafridi4133]

I don’t know if I’m tripping but Tobi looks like he’s on the verge of constantly crying. My guy are you okay? 😭

[@azuben413]

He (as well as JJ) were having flashbacks to their childhood whenever they or their siblings said shut up to their parents and got dealt with. I’m African myself so I feel their pain cause saying shut up gets u smacked in an African house.

[@callumwhartongtfc43]

Brilliant video mate

[@lils2968]

Tobi: if this is in my house I'd be dead Ethan: "i dont have one, so i can do it" 😭

[@brendafancy7033]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Wsh5Ktj7GbfK8

[@mshod1550]

Yeah I saw that too

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Push

[@shaannair8528]

You guys are the best always providing content being able to watch makes my day. Guys let's try to make them reach 10 mil on the rest of the channels too.❤️❤️👍👍👍🙏🙏

[@madisonbollman2501]

The one at 2:52 was my middle school principal😭😭

[@moonjunhui13]

1:06 LMAO his Mexican came out with the "pendejo" 😭😂 dude if my parents call me that I would cry as it sounds too harsh. the harshest thing my mom ever called me was "idiot" but in Spanish idk why but bad words in Spanish sounds harsh asf

[@pweplepop2009]

I believe jj is number one on the list b/c of his famous quote "Oh shut up" -JJ

[@brendafancy7033]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Wsh5Ktj7GbfK8

[@iwantsexseemyvideo6250]

Funk

[@hadifrazin8176]

hello gintoki

[@akshat1188]

Me : depressed and lost hope Sidemen reacts : imma save this man's whole career

[@brendafancy7033]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Wsh5Ktj7GbfK8

[@alinaglavan5809]

Shut up

[@ayandas8299]

@@alinaglavan5809 Why?

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Curb

[@liaontour]

the tears in tobis eyes broke my heart

[@electro806]

Tobi just shouting at jj and ethan to shut up at the start is so funny

[@David-oq1fr]

You know your early when you didn’t receive 50 virtual hugs

[@iwantsexseemyvideo890]

Funk

[@justinsrirangan2500]

8:45 friendly neighbourhood spiderman

[@jopietron9709]

The nigeria boys are back And i love how ethan is the only not black guy but hes the only one that has a run away dad xD

[@Nandanuzumaki]

Ethan saying "byee..." at the ended sounded like Joe Weller 😂 09:10

[@shorty9140]

Tobi at 3:12 ) looks like he was trying to hold back crying when he said he would be dead if he did that. Like he already knew what was gonna happen to him if he did do it

[@AbdulSamad-wx5rt]

JJ acts like he would get beat up if he said 'shutup' to his mum but the shit he's actually said is so much worse lmaooo

[@azuben413]

Well his brother Deji did a video of this challenge saying shut up to their mom and their dad nearly killed him so I’m pretty sure his feelings are accurate.

[@miemie6599]

Wtf the audacityyy That outro 🔥🔥🔥 i was in step up (dance movie) for a second shimmying my shoulders and that 😂🔥🔥

[@birendrakumarnishad7130]

White parents:verbal lecture Black parents:Hand to hand Brown parents :wheres my flip flops

[@SbLox]

Yup I’m brown so...

[@Toineuchiha]

Petition for JJ to do this challenge in the Olatunji household

[@z14...56]

this was the most quietest sidemens react i have ever watched

[@MercifulExorcist]

This is what good parents look like

[@SG_____]

Yeah. I never got told no growing up. I'm glad I'm aware.

[@ajkillerofall5716]

Do this video again it was probably the best vid on the channel so far

[@bryan-anthonyalberto4721]

3:16 he had tears in his eyes just as he say: if this was in my hous i would be dead

[@sagarpatel5312]

After hearing that ksi be like 😂😂😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣😸😸😸😹😹😹😅😂😂😂

[@Phantm_Shark]

4:08 are we not gonna talk about the damn skinny azz door!?

[@armpit_farts7327]

I love so much how some of the dads are for real ready to fight lmao. The look over to camera, or taking off of glasses. They are like, "If you dont come and square up, right the fuck now, I swear to god....."

[@Vayee]

The last one literally just yeet those pan without even thinking about it twice 😂😂😂 He also come up to the table like he was about to do some WWE style 💀

[@abdim3375]

Kid:shut up Dad: *WHAT DID HE SAAAAY*

[@jensen_chuah]

Shoutout to Ethan for being so kind, letting us see the food in his mouth before chewing. What a legend 🙏

[@karthikpratheep175]

This is way more intense than I expected

[@snszbyd]

This video is legendary on so many levels

[@abdmasud99]

TikTok: let's disrespect parents for content and call it a joke.

[@AsifAsif-wb9is]

Ethan hit all of us right in the feels 3:17

[@billysuarez3034]

When Ethan said "I dont have one, so I can do that" I felt that

[@ethanwatson4848]

The scariest ones are the dads that stay in silence and walk towards the room.

[@kieranrolph3387]

Something don’t sit right with how these parents go to hit their children straight away, like chill

[@EmaAtwell]

100% agreed

[@SeriK578]

Depends

[@kieranrolph3387]

@@SeriK578 I guess so but still makes me uncomfortable