Reaction, Doctor Who, 07x09, Hide, Gallifrey Gals Get Wibbly Wobbly! S7Ep10

[@lilacmist04]

Clara reacts to the Tardis that way because it is acting like it doesn't like her. Its her reaction back, being kind of defensive. I never saw Clara as a jerk. She can be feisty, but she has a natural want to help people and the doctor even at her own personal risk.

[@ftumschk]

Plus, like Chris Eccleston, Jenna Coleman is from "the North", where they tend to be plain-speaking :)

[@andreaprochowski4717]

To be fair, the TARDIS actually didn't like her for awhile, there's a short about it

[@daved2352]

Yeah she's from Blackpool and by blackpool standards she's a veritable shrinking violet.

[@gwinnellheald8592]

The doctor and river have an open relationship. The both adore and love eachother obviously but due to the nature of their timelines they don't "stay faithful" for countless centuries

[@MarieAnne.]

@@stevemorganexperience7833 How is that a spoiler? It's obvious they can't have a normal relationship.

[@ayfreez]

Doctor Who humour 🤣 you either get it or you don't.@@stevemorganexperience7833 that one was sharp 🤣🤣

[@the_judge_8262]

"We're all ghosts to you, we must be nothing". I love how real Clara is taking it all in, the essence of time travel.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

I really love that moment.

[@Sagitarria]

Doctor and River have an open marriage and River is the main one to take advantage of it.

[@njdbrasil6]

Wasn’t an issue when River mentioned having a Nestene Boyfriend that she swapped heads with for more fun. And I bet that it will be okay when she returns with a husband. A lot more negativity this season so far

[@grelkie]

@@njdbrasil6 yeah :/

[@anonymousaccordionist3326]

They also got married outside of time itself, in a dead timeline. They aren't actually married.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

Yep, River's always dating and marrying loads of people. The Doctor really doesn't care.

[@Chaosm03]

I never saw any of Clara's behavior as being particularly jerky. To me in seems that she's just a strong willed type. With the Tardis, we've seen in the past that it is not above being petty. It has a mind and sometimes it gets carried away, so Clara is just deciding not to roll over and take it. Reminds me of Donna in some ways.

[@EmpireEmployeeRick]

God I love Clara. Jenna is my favourite actress. Especially later in her career (nowadays) come such a long way.

[@shadout]

This isn't the TARDIS calling Clara out for anything specific. It's being randomly obstructive to her. I'd hope that in real life people would be a little less accepting of that behaviour and wouldn't be so quick to blame the victim of it just because they haven't warmed up to her yet themselves.

[@EvilWillYT]

Considering the nature of Clara's existence, it makes sense that the Tardis has an aversion/dislike for Clara.

[@lyraparry3321]

@@EvilWillYT exactly it's literally bc she's complicated timeline wise lol

[@jthomann71]

Remember the actress that plays Emma. You'll see her again in the Adventure in Space and Time special.

[@Mauther]

I think it's funny that people forget that the TARDIS can be bitchy sometimes

[@youtubeaccount697]

She called all of the doctor’s companions strays lol. I like that moment, calling her a cow isn’t too out of line

[@maverickmak]

"The Tardis is like a cat. A bit slow to trust." That's one of my favourite, underrated Who lines!

[@mjm3091]

"Is it is a ghost or is it an alien" - the time when it's actually neither. Lol.

[@grelkie]

River and doctor are in an open relationship because of how they exist together

[@cypher515]

Trying to figure out how to explain how much I like Clara and why without spoilers. Nope, can't do it. I just do and I think it's largely from future episodes. I WILL say that... outside talks have to be exempt, Moffat said it about this time anyway, River and the Doctor are in an open relationship. The Doctor married Marilyn, River married *SPOILER*, and so on and so forth.

[@michaelramsey1299]

Well she’s already had that line about dating plastic duplicates and them being a bit rubbish and all. It’s hard to know exactly when that is in her time line but given that she grew up with Amy and Rory became River then the whole marriage thing happened right after she made professor I would think a lot of the River we saw was after they were married from her perspective at least.

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

Remember this episode. Remember how the Doctor MADE Clara brave. It's going to make you cry.

[@keithgoodnight3463]

Classic series reference of the episode: the psychically-active crystal from Metebelis Three. The Doctor first picked up a crystal from there in the Third Doctor episode “The Green Death,” where it played an important role in the story; then it along with the planet itself were central to the Third Doctor’s regeneration story “Planet of the Spiders.” Side note: Matt Smith mispronounced “Metebelis,” partly messing up the callback.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

I always giggle at the way Matt says 'Metebelis'. Though to be fair, it's been thousands of years since he was the Third Doctor, so maybe the Doctor forgot the pronunciation? ;) (Even weirder was how Tom Baker often mispronounced Gallifrey -- that always makes me laugh....)

[@Richard_Jones]

Hey Ladies, just some rando from KZbin here. You go right ahead and talk about whatever's on your mind, we're all here for it. It's been a difficult year for me personally but when I look at the terrible things that others have suffered or the amazing things that others have done to make things a little better, then I guess I feel quite lucky. This year has shown me that people are so much better and so much worse, in fact so much more people-y than I previously believed. Keep up the good work.

[@craigoconnor6662]

I have the opposite problem to you two: I go to work but I'm alone when I get home and there's nothing to do on days off, so I don't like taking days off. But what helps is channels like yours. I love reactions videos, especially for this show. Thanks for this. You two are helping me and many other people. And that's how I'm doing.

[@michaelmeehan5505]

The best part of this episode? Paula and Katrina start out with the introspection and careful exploration of their current mood. Then end the episode with moments of pure joy. Thank You, ladies! :D

[@stephenvincentgiles1306]

More references for classic Doctor Who fans! That crystal was from "Planet of the Spiders" which was the episode where the 3rd Doctor regenerated into the 4th. This season is littered with Easter eggs all about classic Who. I wish more people knew this stuff. I grew up watching this show on PBS in the 80's and 90's, so when it came back in 2005, I got super excited.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

As a HUGE Classic Who fan myself, I personally LOVE all the Easter eggs from that season, myself!

[@willellis5357]

"The Birds do it, the bees do it, Even educated fleas do it" is a reference to an Ella Fitzgerald song called 'Let's Do it (Let's Fall In Love)'.

[@andrewpragasam]

Has anyone else noticed this episode seems like a re-imagining of the BBC's classic Seventies ghost story The Stone Tape? As someone mildly traumatised watching that as a child, Hide delighted me with its inspired, upbeat take on the earlier story.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

I was actually meaning to check out 'The Stone Tape' recently (it's on KZbin, I believe). I love creepy old British stuff like 'Children of the Stones' (which I've loved for years) and 'The Owl Service' (which I just watched for the first time last month here on KZbin). Anyway, definitely looking forward to watching 'The Stone Tape' even more, as I love 'Hide' so much! :)

[@bustedsim]

Clara and Eleven are a study in repressed feelings.

[@caitlin329]

I always thought it was clear that the reason the TARDIS isn't too fond of Clara is also the reason that the Doctor intitially became interested in her. The best I can do without potential spoilers 🤷‍♀️

[@caitlin329]

It's a time machine, and we have the third Clara we've met. That's probably not great vibes.

[@teacherjoedeveto]

It’s been a tough year for everyone, but your reaction vids have helped us get through. Now I’m planning my first trip post-pandemic, to Mexico. And part of my prep is learning Spanish by watching Doctor Who, learning useful phrases such as “Soy un señor del tiempo” and “matemos a Hitler“.

[@elijames8618]

Had a bit of a meltdown at school today bc I felt very overwhelmed and this has cheered me up so thank you so much :))

[@jonathanross149]

They considered my jobs essential and I had to go into work, and nothing really stopped for me...Just less traffic on the commutes.

[@ProfessorBernardFuck]

Same here - loved it to start off, like the roads were open just for me!!

[@jonathanross149]

@@ProfessorBernardFuck traffic is about 80% back now

[@awall1701]

Jessica Raine's real life husband played Reverend Golightly in The Unicorn and Wasp episode.

[@scurvydog1918]

Clara will grow on you. Oh, and England has missed you, hopefully we'll see you soon ;)

[@danielfuller839]

I think with the Clara thing that's rather the point, I don't think the show wants us to 'like' Clara in the sense of think she's a good person who we'd like to hang out with. Clara's a brilliant, fascinating character, but would I want her as my best friend? Probably not. It also plays into the whole thing of Clara being able to step into the position the Doctor usually occupies in the narrative-her flaws, the things that make her a jerk sometimes, mirror those of the Doctor.

[@suralos]

The actress who portrayed Emma Grayling, JESSICA RAINE, would also star in "An Adventure in Space and Time" as Verity Lambert. Verity Lambert was the very first producer of Doctor Who.

[@brellnob]

Amy and Rory are gone, the sooner you except that the better you'll be.

[@DaleRibbons]

Accept.

[@forevernyt]

Hello Ladies. The past year is proving to be very rough. In the beginning, it was kind of scary but cool, not knowing how long it was going to take. Thinking a few weeks and all would be right as rain. Not having any TP sucked, but we always managed to get some. Then as the days turned into weeks, the weeks into months the "fun" of it really started wear off and just become...normal. Then, right after Halloween my family and I got Covid. It was very scary hearing the word "POSITIVE". I really truly thought I was going to wake up one day, not be able to breathe and that would be the end. Fortunately for me and the rest of my family, that was not the case. We survived with minimal effect, the worst being no taste or smell for two weeks. Then we were all back to normal. For a bit. Then the weight of the pandemic started to take it's toll on everyone around me and I did my best to be supportive and strong. Then my neighbors caught it and three weeks later, my neighbor's wife had passed. This brought the reality of it hitting home. I felt like I wanted to break at that point. That was a few weeks ago. I even had to go to the clinic, because I felt like I had chest pains. I'm fine, I only had them the one day and haven't had them again since. But all of it just wears you down to the bone. I haven't seen my co-workers in over a year. We missed vacation last year and my family wants to go this year, but it's all up in the air right now. I put myself on the list to get vaccinated, still waiting for a date. Thursdays and your videos really help, believe it or not. Take me out of my reality for 20-30 minutes. So, that's how I'm doing.

[@WebMonkey741]

This is one of my favourite episodes! I love the characters and the payoff. Thanks Gallifrey Girls!

[@Morphikus]

I don't know if you have already seen Good Omens, but if you haven't, could you react to it?

[@christianwise637]

It's been quite exhausting, but I'm doing pretty well at the moment. I'm working in a hospital, so I've been kept quite busy for the past few months, and it does mean that I do get to have some form of interaction with other people, so I'm not going totally insane in isolation. I do like this one, as the first half does have a very eerie aesthetic and atmosphere, it features my favourite Clara scene in series 7 with her emotional reaction to seeing the entire life cycle of Earth play out, and the Professor and Emma are really likeable characters, with a really sweet and tender relationship that's sold very well by Dougray Scott and Jessica Raine. Having said that, I'm not too fond of the second half, where it gets a bit too convoluted for its own good, and I feel the twist that the monster was actually trying to reunite with its partner kind of comes out of nowhere, and mostly came about because the writer wanted to do a ghost story which turns into a love story, an idea that "The Haunting of Bly Manor" did way better - in fact, given that Mike Flanagan is a Whovian himself, I wonder if that line from the Doctor was a bit of inspiration for him when he wrote the series. Or maybe it's just a coincidence, and I'm just reading too much into things. Hmm, maybe I am going insane in isolation...

[@samywho5367]

Hiii, my name is Samy, I am from Spain and I love Doctor Who. I am doing okay, I just want this whole pandemic to end and hopefully be able to travel again soon!!! Best regards to whoever reads this comment and I hope you are successful no matter what you do!

[@paulkennedy8701]

Thank you. Your comment makes me smile.

[@cameronwright7165]

Think your getting a bit deep with the tardis/Clara relationship.....it’s just a bit of comedy. It’s like grumpy old person who’s actually soften on the inside. What’s the big deal?

[@allisonotto]

Love this episode with lovely Jessica Raine from Call the Midwife. And Dougray Scott from Ever After!

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

I love him in 'Ever After'!

[@smashstuff86]

16:21 Who Knows? No More! Gallifrey Falls!

[@RyoCaliente]

I've never understood any Clara dislike but I was also biased as I was thrilled to finally be rid of Pond.

[@RedTheAbnormal]

Tbh, I think y'all are being a bit unfair to Clara. The Tardis was being a bit of a jerk and she called her out on it.

[@samuelunwin3094]

I'm doing alright, there was definitely a point where I wasn't going good but I'm coming out of my seasonal depression so things are starting to look upwards again :)

[@DEATHxD3ALER]

C'mon the Tardis can be a bit of a cow at some point's it's her right she is alive after all....

[@johna5635]

You're really not missing anything by not being in England at the moment - trust me!

[@michaelcartmell7428]

Wait... "hide" make you nervous, but "Hyde" wouldn't?

[@christenorio9555]

The first time I saw this episode after & I binged watching the poltergeist movie franchise the rope incident reference!

[@davidrandall3978]

Honest answer to how I am? Not good. I moved back in with my dad 2 years ago as I go through a divorce. I miss my kids. My dad has just retired and sold the house to move to a retirement park, so I have until the end of the month before I’m homeless. I was in remission from cancer however it’s back. My physical and mental health is shot and I’ve given up.

[@bananasaregood8655]

This was the first story jenna coleman filmed I believe

[@ftumschk]

Indeed... as Clara Oswald. She'd already played Oswin Oswald in "Asylum of the Daleks", of course. I believe that "Hide" was filmed before "The Snowmen" Xmas Special where she played Victorian Clara, even though that was televised first.

[@jonathanross149]

Paula don't ask about River

[@kwdmiller3]

I am happy because you are going to watch one of my favorite stories.

[@seanred7681]

Another good episode, can't wait for what's coming.

[@hmsljj]

Series 7 is not a favorite but there are a couple of episodes I do enjoy and this is one of them. Jessica Raine and Dougray Scott are just wonderful as Emma and the professor and make a good ensemble with Clara and the Doctor.

[@cutthr0atjake]

I'm one of those odd folk who don't like people. Consequently, apart from the whole risk of death thing, I'm loving the isolation the pandemic brings. :-)

[@BritneyLaZonga]

Point is, for now i am holding up pretty good, but if knew this would be how i spend the rest of my days... ooof. Looking forward to things keeps me stay sane.

[@DogAndEazy]

I'm feeling up and down, mostly up; In between but leaning to the good, (watching Doctor Who with you helps too :) ) Hope everyone here can find contentment, peace, joy, success, this day/night/year :)

[@stevehawkins6645]

Hello you two. I haven't watched this reaction yet. I just wanted to say hi. I am in England and work from home making sculptures. The lockdowns here have been very difficult for everyone, but we will survive! 😊

[@bananasaregood8655]

You both have to watch the doctor who tv movie and minisode ‘night of the doctor’ before watching the 50th anniversary episode!

[@MalcolmWolf]

They plan to, although the movie might only be watched by Paula without a reaction. It has not been decided yet.

[@bananasaregood8655]

@@MalcolmWolf would be fun to see them react to the movie. Get sum 8th doctor action haha

[@MalcolmWolf]

@@bananasaregood8655 I agree. Hopefully they find time.

[@grimreaper4104]

Welcome from London, England. You are always welcome back. How am I doing... my head been screaming at me for the past few month, being in isolation since Jan 2020 to look after family. But watching these videos do put a smile on my face, thank you.

[@whobp8]

This episode needs a sequel called Seek.

[@ftumschk]

... and a prequel called "Raw" ;)

[@mconnaghan]

Another quality cat video! I assume! I just started it! No spoilers! But I won't see your reply anyway until after I've seen the cats! I mean, the episode! Exclamation mark!

[@mconnaghan]

CAT SIGHTED CAT SIGHTED CONFIRMED

[@mconnaghan]

Not even counting the shirt -- WHICH I DO COUNT.

[@mconnaghan]

OMG The TARDIS is like a what now? Am I being punked? Also, yes, I have seen this episode. Quite a while ago.

[@mconnaghan]

If you occasionally caught Katrina looking down and smiling, it's probably at a ghost.

[@jonathanross149]

Was going to say...this is on an hour early, but forgot you all non-Arizona leaped an hour early.

[@ianpark1805]

Ah, that explains the early posting. I don’t think I’m in Arizona any more......

[@DaleRibbons]

I like this episode. It's a good one to watch around Halloween.

[@michs342]

Funny enough I had a trip to London planned in April 2020, but then everything went down the drain. Have not been to London in over 20 years so I had looked forward to that trip.

[@ianpark1805]

London’s been around a while. It won’t notice another twelve months and will be there when you can travel again. Quite looking forward to going back myself!

[@baconrasher6650]

It’s that time of the week 😊 Thanks ladies as always ❤️👍🏻

[@WebMonkey741]

If you like Jessica Raine then check out Adventures in Time and Space!

[@cargo71]

Spoilers...

[@WebMonkey741]

@@cargo71 Spoilers for a documentary on the creation of Doctor Who as a television show from the 1960s?!? :O

[@caitlin329]

An Adventure in Space and Time

[@cargo71]

Hey, Gals, did you react to Clara and the Tardis? One of the best minisodes I ever saw! Please, don´t tell me it´s only on Patreon...

[@caitlin329]

Wow, it's one of my least favourite! It's so weird how polarising this series can be 😂

[@cargo71]

@@caitlin329 yes, that's true!

[@robertelessar]

I LOVE the neko no basu shirt!!!

[@dodofren]

Somebody here likes Agatha ;) Love the reaction. Keep'em coming.

[@cutthr0atjake]

Why make Clara a bit of a jerk? People are never totally nice & frequently are "a bit of a jerk". It makes her real.

[@Sagitarria]

She’s the first companion in a long time to generally treat the doctor as an equal

[@michaelramsey1299]

It’s always funny to me that it seems like people who loves Donna hate or at least really dislike Clara and often the inverse is true. In many ways they are alike I. That neither one just fawned over the Doctor and often gave him a lot of guff. Only thing that’s really different about their approaches is that Donna was a bit self deprecating at times while Clara is extremely confident.

[@cutthr0atjake]

@@michaelramsey1299 True. For all of her bravado, Donna was insecure. Clara, however, is a bossy control freak. They are both fun and interesting characters.

[@Muckylittleme]

Clara was the most unreal companion to ever travel with the Doctor IMO.

[@Will-nn6ux]

@@cutthr0atjake I found that a weird description of Clara (no matter who may have possibly said it).

[@ryanratchford2530]

Hello from England!!

[@markrankin1094]

Paula, you should come to Yorkshire next time (Bring Katrina). Specifically, yoy should visit the place I live. Mirfield, West Yorkshire, birthplace of one Sir Patrick Stewart. Make it so.

[@ianpark1805]

She did come here. She was at an event in Harrogate - she even mentions she’s going in the ‘Unicorn and the Wasp’ reaction - and the ‘Death by Monsters’ site (shame on you if you are not aware/familiar with this!) has pictures of Paula with the guys from DxM in York. So....an honorary Tyke I’d say. As for Mirfield - ‘Psychobitches - The Brontes’ - Nuff said!

[@airmaildolphin7013]

Remember that name The Witch of the Well. It will come up again later!

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

LOL, I JUST made that connection!

[@cklambo]

15:57 wandavision reference

[@josefschiltz2192]

Tweetie Bird: "A Piggy, say I, An' he fwue in the sky, Not a . . . Oh, sowwy, oh, There's the Putey tat!"

[@JDKrug]

Hey thanks for asking about how we all are doing, not enough people really ask that. Personally I'm feeling a little bit lucky now that I was rehired at a job that I lost a year ago when we were all shut down. In the long term I am in a better place mentally than I was a year ago.

[@andiannewbea4851]

I feel sorry for people like yourselves, doing the right thing. However over the last year, the U.S government has taken an half arsed approach to the pandemic. With No leadership and state governments doing their own thing. I'm very lucky to live in Australia. Due to our hard approach to the pandemic, we now can live relatively normal lives.

[@somthingbrutal]

Katrina as you like ghost stories there is a great old UK if you can find a copy to watch The Signalman 1976. also i do think you would enjoy the series sapphire and Steel kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ2yhI2Orcl-bsk

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

Seconding the 'Sapphire and Steel' rec -- ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS EVER! And more time travel SciFi!

[@Dasharr]

I'm doing OK with the lack of socialising, but I lost my job of 24 years as a result of Covid late last year and still haven't found another one. That's difficult because the whole process is rejection after rejection. I'm alright... but I'd be more alright if I was working again. I didn't remember this episode when the reaction started. There are some really forgettable episodes in this season; not bad exactly, just with nothing to stick in the memory. There are some really good ones too though.

[@liamdunn1664]

I'm doing good....But then again I live in England! :D

[@xXAuron86Xx]

I Remember SOMEONE who could it be calling the Tardis JUST a blue BOX *HMMM* 😀 (Sarcasm)

[@Skeezer66]

I'm on the same page Paula is about working from home. I miss being able to leave work at WORK! As soon as the chance to return to my office came, I took it, but I still work sometimes from home, even on weekends. SUCKS!!!! This story ties into the 3rd Doctor. In the future that house became the home for UNIT HQ. The blue crystal is heavily featured in Pertwee's last story..

[@One_Odd_Ood]

Aww, you cut out one of my favorite lines. “Doctor... what?” “If you like.”

[@ianpark1805]

Hah! Can’t fool me by posting an hour early! I’m fine and dandy, although my hip hurts (getting replaced on April Fools Day - a hospital with a sense of humour!) and my hair, such as it is, has gone mental! I enjoyed this episode quite a bit and this reaction too. Somewhere there is a minisode where the TARDIS gets its own back on Clara - got to be worth a watch even if you don’t react to it. Paula saying she wanted to come back to England and should be prepping right now made me sad and a bit homesick, although I’m here in England! Go figure! I recall being on holiday in the US on a bus driving to Sedona. To pass the time I was listening to my ye olde iPod on shuffle and ‘The King of Rome’ by The Unthanks came up - instantly madly homesick for England - I think it’s a song that would make you pine for England even if you didn’t come from here. Choking back sobs on a bus of cheery travellers who hadn’t been ‘Unthanked’!

[@mconnaghan]

In response to the discussion around the 3-minute mark about asking "How are you?" may I direct you to a video titled "Jill and Tracey are good, you?" on Abi Clarke's channel (1-minute long). And a couple sequel videos, I think.

[@dudeman33]

1:50 It really is true. We weren't meant to be locked for days to months on end. Not being able to interact face-to-face with other people. As a more introverted person lockdown hasn't been too bad. But I know it's been tough for other people. And I do know that we'll get there in the end, together.

[@upg315]

When I first started working from home right out of college (this was around 2008), I was like, "This is cool! I'm working out of my bedroom! How neat!" A year later, it became, "Oh god, I'm sleeping in my office!" It got so bad that I basically can't work from home anymore. It gives me huge anxiety, so I have to go to coffee shops and such ... But then the pandemic happened so coffee shops aren't a thing. It's been a year.

[@upg315]

On another note, any plans to react to some of the extra 50th anniversary stuff: An Adventure In Time and Space, Night of the Doctor, maybe the 80's movie with Paul McGann even?

[@youtubeaccount697]

@@upg315 fourth wall reactions did a whole doctor who week with those extras. Highly recommended, and definitely was a better build up than this series of reactions so far

[@ArtfromHell]

Mmmmmmmmm! Warm laptop air on the kitties belly.

[@tifaa1313]

nooo i can't believe you think clara is a jerk, it's starting to hurt me watching those reactions, like i try to respect your different opinions but it feels like you're in pain watching it

[@osnatashtaralevin8944]

This might be inappropriate (I don't know if my opinion in the matter in itself is considered a spoiler) - but I was wondering - when you get to it, are you gals also planning on watching the 13th? Personally, I've grown to view it as a completely different show than the one I know and love.

[@JustJames83]

Hello, my name is James and I am not okay.

[@12chapin]

Is this ep 9, or 10 🧐. Hello ladies.

[@ajivins1]

Wasn't that keen on Clara but Coleman was good in The Serpent. I think it was DOOgray Scott in a TV Triffids. He was good but Eddie Izzard ruined it...

[@KingsBard]

I'm struggling with my brain, no matter how hard I think, I can't decide what I want to do with my life. - Jon (d&d starved college student)

[@Muckylittleme]

LOL I'm here for Katrina's random facial expressions to camera. I'm also so down with Paula's view on Clara. She didn't earn any of the cockiness and despite the Doctor supposedly being really sceptical about who or what she is he has no trouble trusting her even with the Tardis. It was too forced for me and they tried to make her too Dcotory even though I know why they did it and what they were going for.

[@noeffortrandomness3182]

After tinman I'm anticipating journey to the center of the tardis

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

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[@gmdhargreaves]

Never in any episode is The Doctor referred to as Dr Who only as the Doctor

[@caitlin329]

Although the character did used to be occasionally credited as such, and for decades was referred to as such in media etc.

[@youtubeaccount697]

“Hello, I’m Doctor Who”

[@daleholliday2294]

U 2 r sew pretty.... you remind me so much of my daughters

[@caitlin329]

The problem with making the companion the focus of the big mystery plot is that she isn't really given much of a chance to expand beyond that. She particularly suffers this series because 1) Moffat can't really write women that well and 2) she wasn't originally meant to be modern Clara. It feels like they started with the mystery and worked backwards.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

I know it's a common refrain over the years that I've heard about Moffat in fandom that 'he can't write women well' and maybe that's all just a difference of opinion, but I've just never gotten that impression, myself? Like, not at all. 🤷‍♀ I mean, maybe it's just me, but I always personally found Moffat's companions more relatable than RTD's when it comes to the 'new' series, for example. But again, YMMV, I guess?

[@dutchman8887]

moffat writes women extremely well. certainly better than the nagging mothers or constantly love obsessed doctor desperate rtd ones. even donna who isnt romantically interested in the doctor gets made out to be useless without him. the three best written women in doctor who come from moffat although we havent met one of them so far and clara does get better. clara gets plenty of good character scenes in this series though. this episode having one of them.

[@youtubeaccount697]

Im glad she stayed on for as long she did, gave her some breathing room

[@caitlin329]

@@NicoleM_radiantbaby It's precisely a matter of opinion. To me, most of the 'Moffat Women' are much of a muchness, and often don't feel particularly real to me. River, Amy, Clara etc. (just talking Who) all just feel like different aspects of Moffat's fantasies more than anything a lot of the time. Of course, they get fleshed out, but they don't always feel very 'real' to me. There's also the whole problem with them always being a 'mystery' or a 'puzzle' or something to 'solve' which gets particularly exhausting. It isn't just in Who, and it isn't with reference to RTD either. He has his own problems. Although generally what I'd say is at least Rose (as much as I'm not a fan), Martha and Donna all feel like distinct people to me.

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@@dutchman8887 Who are the three best women in Doctor Who in your opinion? I think it's interesting how much people's perceptions of it differ.

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