Reaction To 1000 Years of Finnish Pop Music and Fashion

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Mert Fin

Mert Fin

8 ай бұрын

Reaction To 1000 Years of Finnish Pop Music and Fashion | Finnish History
This is my reaction to 1000 Years of Finnish Pop Music and Fashion
In this video I react to Finnish singer Vilma Jää perform music from the last 1000 years of Finnish history as well as showing the fashion from time period in a wonderful video.
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@blissfull_ignorance8454
@blissfull_ignorance8454 8 ай бұрын
As a Finn, there is smth very profound within old Finnish folk music that just speaks directly to my soul.
@squidcaps4308
@squidcaps4308 8 ай бұрын
Every single old Finnish folk song was composed in the last 150 years.
@Zardagbum
@Zardagbum 8 ай бұрын
@@squidcaps4308 True, but they bear the fruits and burdens of generations past. They didn't just pop out of of nowhere, the sound and feel comes from more than a thousand years of oral tradition. There's a reason most finnish names adhere to the trochaic tetrameter.
@squidcaps4308
@squidcaps4308 8 ай бұрын
@@Zardagbum When it comes to music, we really, really don't know but we can for sure make some educated guesses. We can say that from 1800s onwards we have a lot more knowledge, and the few songs that were transcribed back then won't be that far off.. of course, musical notation is notoriously vague when it comes to fine details. Only after recording become a thing do we actually know how songs are suppose to sound like. This problems goes to classical music too, we don't know how some pieces were played in the 1700s even though we have fairly accurate notation: none of the fine details are in the transcription... There are no symbols for tone or timbre, there are no tempomaps for accurate pacing... We do have written words, showing the importance of having some system to transmit information. But musical notation really is in the babysteps when compared to literature, it has just about learned to walk.. i would not even say it is in its teens yet. There is not even a real standard, it is just a system we all sort of agree with and it works fairly well in classical and older contemporary music but for the modern stuff.. absolutely not even close what we need. Thus, most of music we create is not even transcribed ONCE in a printable form, it only exists as source files that works only in a specific software and stored in some studio archive and as digital audio files. So, in a way, we have moved backwards but our musical language has expanded greatly... Now the only problem is preservation of all the data.
@TurmoilDot
@TurmoilDot 5 ай бұрын
​​@@squidcaps4308 Not all was composed during 1800-century, but put the notes and words on the paper! Some of them had already been sung hundreds of years... 👍
@finnicpatriot6399
@finnicpatriot6399 3 ай бұрын
@@squidcaps4308Absolutely retarded take. "Oral tradition doesn't exist. Anything only begins existing once it's written down."
@squidcaps4308
@squidcaps4308 8 ай бұрын
The thing is, we have absolutely no idea how songs from 1000 years ago where sung. There was no notation and it took until the Renaissance and Baroque to have some consistency: songs before that were sung like the singer wanted, not what the "composer" wanted. Musical notation was the final key to the musical revolution that exploded the whole field of study, the complexity skyrocketed. Up until 13th century we did not even have real polyphonies, meaning that you have multiple notes at different pitches at the same time. it was unisono, "one voice" until then, afaik... everything is "afaik" before 1700s, since we literally have no clue how people sang music before that, you had to be present. It is very much the same as with written history, and everything before that is pre-history. In music, pre-history is only few hundred years ago.
@TheNarghes
@TheNarghes 8 ай бұрын
Ievan Polkka is still huge in Finland, people cover it constantly. Check out Loituma - Ievan Polkka (most popular) or Korpiklaani - Ievan Polkka (Folk metal cover)
@elisav9925
@elisav9925 8 ай бұрын
This 👍
@Hynsson
@Hynsson 7 ай бұрын
Dont forget Slack Bird. Excellent version
@haneski8020
@haneski8020 8 ай бұрын
Finnish rap scene became huge by Fintelligens 25 years ago. When they broke up Ela(stinen) continued with more melodic style (like "anna soida"). Nowadays he is making even poppish songs with rap influence. As mentioned there have been since artists like Jvg, Cheek, Sini Sabotage, Paleface.... and so many others. At this moment many youngsters like GettoMasa (f.ex. "lössi").
@formatique_arschloch
@formatique_arschloch 8 ай бұрын
They are all "poppish"
@mixlllllll
@mixlllllll 8 ай бұрын
​@@formatique_arschlochNo they're not :D
@PiuwPiuwChannel
@PiuwPiuwChannel 7 ай бұрын
I would mention also some like avain/asa/asa masa (he has multiple namess), juju and pyhimys.
@santtumoilanen3065
@santtumoilanen3065 Ай бұрын
you forgot kehäkettu
@Gcurated
@Gcurated Ай бұрын
She's really talented! Finnish music today is pretty melodic, even the tracks with a strong beat. I wonder if these old traditions still have an influence.
@ilpohartikainen2771
@ilpohartikainen2771 8 ай бұрын
These examples of old Finnish folk songs pops up here and there in a one form or another. I can understand without any problem at these Finnish and Karela songs (I live at Eastern Finland) but I bet that there are Finns that might struggle with Karelia. BTW, ievan polkka (Eeva's Polkka) sounds a bit strange to my ear because the singer isn't from Savonia (most of the words of that polkka are taken from Savonia dialect of Finnish). Yes, that's a nitpicking but I want you to know (like some englishman from London tries to sing "the drunk Scotsman").
@tuuli4002
@tuuli4002 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, some of the songs were in old Finnish.... like I can still understand it well but some of the words just are old.
@haneski8020
@haneski8020 8 ай бұрын
I think most of the words are just in a "poetic form". Even nowadays people are using these type of forms in poetry and songs. Except "Viena Karelia" which has more unfamiliar forms.
@ninyli1
@ninyli1 5 ай бұрын
Vilma Jää is a very talented singer whose debut album Kosto (Revenge) came out last year. Her performance in Kaija Saariaho's opera Innocence was absolutely amazing.
@heidisaarikoski7360
@heidisaarikoski7360 2 ай бұрын
Vilma Jää is totally cool musician and artist. Listen to her song Nouse Perkele or Jäinen neito. Strong.
@niilop
@niilop 8 ай бұрын
Some of her own songs are amazing, she mixes that old style with modern music.
@vonkku
@vonkku 8 ай бұрын
I really love finnish rock. Leevi and the Leavings and Eppu Normaali are my favourites.
@l.m.s908
@l.m.s908 2 ай бұрын
❤ What can I say! You are so aware about so much ! You ❤So really thank you for let us to know!!! Life as it is!
@niuho2052
@niuho2052 8 ай бұрын
"Muistatko Monrepos'n" was not 1930's, it was recorded 1955. 'Murheellisten laulujen maa" was not 1970's, but 1982.
@kv6uf
@kv6uf 8 ай бұрын
Finnish is a preserving language, so we can read early written Finnish with ease (it just sounds a bit funny), and we still use some loan words from other languages in the form they were adopted, when the source language has long forgotten about it and moved on and evolved new versions during the centuries. For example, Finnish words utare "udder" and marras "dead" have remained unchanged for over 2000 years. (November in Finnish is marraskuu, literally "dead month", when all life stops before winter. The top layer of skin is called marraskesi "dead skin." The tale tells it is also the month your skin sheds the top layer the most, my guess is to get winter skin! :D) A classic example of a loan word is Proto-Germanic (500 BC) kuningaz 'someone of the family, noble' nowadays in German König, English king, Swedish kung and Finnish kuningas.
@vessaharja666
@vessaharja666 8 ай бұрын
If you liked the Ievan polka at 6:07 I suggest to check out the whole song! For example this one by Loituma is very popular version of this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJOkea2Phq6ZapI. Also the creator of the video, Vilma Jää, has very cool songs where she mixes old folkish style with pop/electronic music! Thanks for the video again, very interesting!
@finnishculturalchannel
@finnishculturalchannel 8 ай бұрын
Some do make and have traditional costumes and they are used in celebrations, festivals and performances. Different regions, villages and persons of age and social status have their own costumes. The traditional design is also valued in jewelry and puukkos (knives), which are part of the costumes: "Kansallispukukooste 3 passthebrushchallenge", "Kansallispukukooste 5 passthebrushchallenge", "Koronakevään jenkka - Lockdown Jenkka | Kansantanssi - Finnish folk dance". Finnish contributions: "Colin Watt Letkajenkka", "Björn Weckström & Radical Forms" and "Vintage Jewelry Auction Preview Featuring "Star Wars" By Lapponia". Knife making: "Traditional Crafts of Finland - Episode 1 - Puukko Knife Making". Couple of folk songs: "Ulla Pirttijarvi - Mattharaku askai" and "Merja Soria Kylӓ Vuotti Uutta Kuuta - Finnish Folk Song".
@LevisL95
@LevisL95 8 ай бұрын
I checked her channel and she makes some great music! Modern pop with traditional style Finnish lyrics (with use of alliteration, alkusointu).
@user-py8di4nm2t
@user-py8di4nm2t 8 ай бұрын
Currently the biggest rap names are probably Cledos, Gettomasa, etc. but some of the more underground/og rap names are Altis, Stepa MC, Steen1, and especially ''SMC'' is legendary
@kievitz
@kievitz 8 ай бұрын
Also Finnish metal/rock has it musical roots in old folk songs and poetry.
@oscarn-
@oscarn- 8 ай бұрын
Finnish rap scene is pretty big these days. There are many different types of artists, currently big ones are names like Cledos, Kube, Gettomasa, then there are more party-oriented groups like JVG, Gasellit and Mouhous (to name a few), there's grime artists like Horse Attack Sqwad and Töölön Ketterä. And then there's the "old guard" like Paleface, Asa (Avain), Don Johnson Big Band, Redrama, Fintelligens, Kapasiteettiyksikkö, Tulenkantajat, Stepa, Elastinen (Fintelligens), Skandaali, Solonen & Kosola etc. National broadcasting channel YLE made a really good documentary series (two series actually) called "Mistä sä tuut" about the history of Finnish rap scene.
@Aquelll
@Aquelll 8 ай бұрын
I think there are huge similarities between Scottish and Finnish cultures. I think a lot of it comes from the harsh environments and the grit it takes to live there.
@TurmoilDot
@TurmoilDot 5 ай бұрын
Did you notice the surname of the singer? It's "JÄÄ", which means 1. "ice" and 2. "stay". It could be kind of artist name, I don't know.
@Pataassa
@Pataassa 8 ай бұрын
We finns understand most words of those old ones if we try really hard. 😅 Not every word. But those after 1700 we understand.
@leopartanen8752
@leopartanen8752 8 ай бұрын
Finnish rap classics: Avain - Punainen tiili: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2TSn42PltOXfpY Steen1 - Sinisiä rappuja ja punaisia hintalappuja: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWSte3msbtqJqas
@eerokutale277
@eerokutale277 8 ай бұрын
The lyrics of the first two songs were hard to understand because the style of singing was so different from normal speech and the use of some archaic words. Of course the lyrics of the third song were most difficult to understand because it was Karelian language and also the style of singing was so different from spoken language, but with some more listening it probably would be intelligible for a native Finnish speaker.
@saje446
@saje446 8 ай бұрын
i can understand most of the first one, but i can understand almost everything of the second one. Hardest to understand for me was the Karelian one since its a different language but still very similar to Finnish.
@minnaorv
@minnaorv 8 ай бұрын
As a Savonian i clearly understand the lyrics. I don't speak in the savonian dialect myself but my grandparents speak with a heavy dialect
@LilA-zl6tf
@LilA-zl6tf 8 ай бұрын
This reminds me, that in the early years of Nightwish.... and still, if you know to look for it, they use some ages old historical melodies. - One rock/pop scene in Finland were the times of Dingo and Yö - bands. Which came to a sort of end of an era with Hakulinen singing Parrasvalot.
@tainakinnari8040
@tainakinnari8040 7 ай бұрын
You should react to Vilma Jää's (the artist performing on this video) latest album called Kosto which was just released. She combines Finnish traditional music to modern pop music. Kosto means revenge and it refers to her experiencing sexual abuse as a student. The album is very empowering for women especially. Thank you for your videos, I'm really enjoying them! 😊
@moonliteX
@moonliteX 24 күн бұрын
Omg
@moi-ev3pi
@moi-ev3pi 8 ай бұрын
Finnish rock in the 80s and 90s was good
@toinenosoite3173
@toinenosoite3173 8 ай бұрын
She has made such a beutiful video so thank you for presenting it to me! Neverthelss, before the birth of the nation state in the late 19h C, you couldn't even talk about a single Finnish culture in any way, and you still really can't. Well, it's the same in any country - the traditional/popular music and clothing varies between different regions, doesn't it?
@Pataassa
@Pataassa 8 ай бұрын
Most famous rapper is probably Cheek. Or Elastinen.
@meowtannie.
@meowtannie. 7 ай бұрын
Pikku G's music was my childhood tbh (the hiphop song in this)
@emil4290
@emil4290 8 ай бұрын
all these songs are comprehensible to a Finn, but the one from Viena Karelia is the furthest from modern Finnish (because it not finnish), but it is still understandable
@eerokutale277
@eerokutale277 8 ай бұрын
Jukka Kuoppamäki: Sininen ja valkoinen: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJzYhqaofLlop5o Blue and White: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJjNqYR-fZ2imdE Blau und weiβ: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4KseIOHaNWHa8k
@PetriW
@PetriW 7 ай бұрын
She did not include Kalevala tune. Its like 2000 years old Finnic music
@kodvo1
@kodvo1 8 ай бұрын
To maker. Waltz: Lontoovin yössä, engl. at London night
@joniharkonen1460
@joniharkonen1460 7 ай бұрын
what comes to finnish rap music, puukkoallu is popular.
@Gibbetoo
@Gibbetoo 8 ай бұрын
that was beautiful. wasn't it?
@JonasMats
@JonasMats 8 ай бұрын
Since you seem to like Nightwish i think you would also like Battle Beast!! The artists name is Noora Louhimo and she"s just incredible with her vocals! Here"s a official music video and a LIVE RAW version of them: LIVE RAW: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kILMhax4mJd9gcU Official music video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYvdmYiGmpJ1mc0
@tuukka3580
@tuukka3580 2 ай бұрын
1000 years is a bit reach but I think Celtic was the genre in the early years. Not an historian but still.
@pekkaerholtz3163
@pekkaerholtz3163 7 ай бұрын
I like rap artist "asa"
@JN-vn4ng
@JN-vn4ng 8 ай бұрын
Here is full song of that Ievan Polkka: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJOkea2Phq6ZapI
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 2 ай бұрын
for hiphop : youytooble "elastinen"
@merjas68
@merjas68 8 ай бұрын
This jumps over 80´s and 90´s music. So dissappointed about that.
@caky68
@caky68 7 ай бұрын
Are you from Kopenhagen
@markMCela33
@markMCela33 4 ай бұрын
Old song /New cover.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/lafXZ55reaeYmas
@vesak455
@vesak455 8 ай бұрын
As a person from western Finland I feel those examples of old songs very distant because they all were examples of eastern Finnish culture which is very different from the culture what we have in western Finland.
@SairanBurghausen
@SairanBurghausen 23 күн бұрын
Nah.
@sofiat8067
@sofiat8067 8 ай бұрын
You definitely have to dive into Finnish rap scene. I recommend artists called Gettomasa, Kube and OG Ulla-Maija. Especially these songs are worth to check out: Gettomasa - Silmät Kube - Japanese drip ft. Cledos OGUM - Ratasessarit 1 ft. Midas
@palmujoni
@palmujoni 8 ай бұрын
I've been a huge fan of hiphop my whole life aswell. Finnish rap has always had a special place in my heart just cause it's much more relatable to me. Some iconic artists that I would recommend along with some history and a song reccomendation or two from each of them. Not necessarily the best artists or songs, but all important in their own way to how Finland's hiphop scene looks right now: Avain (also known as Asa) - I would check out something from his first album "Punainen Tiili" as it is considered by MANY to be one of, if not the greatest Finnish rap album of all time. Maybe check out the title track "Punainen Tiili" or the song "Roihuvuori" Fintelligens - This group consisting of Elastinen & Iso H really catapulted Finnish rap that is actually rapped in Finnish into the mainstream, before their debut album called "Renesanssi" noone really thought you could even rap in Finnish let alone be succesfull while doing it. The group hasn't been making music for over ten years now, but both artists are still active especially Elastinen who is still topping charts with his solo stuff. I would also recommend something from their first album since you said you like 90s hiphop, maybe the song Stockholm-Helsinki which features rap in Swedish aswell. A big current artist in Finnish hiphop would be Gettomasa who is probably the biggest artist genre wide right now, he's been praised for his old school sound and lyricism which comes from his background as the former Finnish freestyle champion. I would recommend the song "Silmät" it's probably his biggest song that doesn't lean too much into pop. I would also recommend one of my personal favorites Paperi T who's been a pioneer in the more "artsy" side of Finnish rap since the early 2010s with his group Ruger Hauer aswell as his solo music. I'd check out either the song "Sä jätät jäljen" or "Surumielisen näköiset naiset" Some more artists new and old worth checking out if you're intrested in seeing more variety in styles and sounds: Ibe, JVG, Pyhimys, Lauri Haav, Kube, Costi, Gasellit, Skandaali
@teecee7475
@teecee7475 8 ай бұрын
This was really nice video. If you wanna dive in to Finnish rap a good starting point might be: JVG -Mist Sä tuut
@mixlllllll
@mixlllllll 8 ай бұрын
I don't thing JVG is a best example of Finnish rap. It's more pop with rap lyrics.
@Hanmieson
@Hanmieson 8 ай бұрын
He he he, perse
@sylarkane8883
@sylarkane8883 6 ай бұрын
Modernity is rotten.
@torpmorp1324
@torpmorp1324 8 ай бұрын
As a Finn, I don’t know wtf this is. I like the sound of her voice but no, this is not for me.
@tiitustolvanen9657
@tiitustolvanen9657 8 ай бұрын
Okay then dont listen to it
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