Reading Icons 3: The How-Tos of an Icon Corner (Pencils & Prayer Ropes)

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@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Жыл бұрын
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@yourneighbour3309
@yourneighbour3309 Жыл бұрын
trying to convert thank you for this video!❤
@JohnDoe-sq3ok
@JohnDoe-sq3ok 11 ай бұрын
There was a Mormon ad before this video. It scares me how much influence that cult has. Saying prayers
@emeraldfrag
@emeraldfrag 8 ай бұрын
I got that same ad, they trick people to seem like regular Christianity
@IsaiahMiguel
@IsaiahMiguel 8 ай бұрын
I got it as well and this is the first comment I see
@kayaissimo
@kayaissimo 7 ай бұрын
I got this the same ad as well! lol
@cjbrewer3843
@cjbrewer3843 4 ай бұрын
I pay to avoid ads for things like that haha
@WilliamJ-7610
@WilliamJ-7610 4 ай бұрын
As someone who lives in Utah as an actual Christian, I am working overtime praying for those caught up in LDS shenanigans
@loverlei79
@loverlei79 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you "get" us converts.🤣 You nail it every time!
@Sam-ig9bj
@Sam-ig9bj Жыл бұрын
Literally 😅
@yourneighbour3309
@yourneighbour3309 Жыл бұрын
literally x2
@commissar1448
@commissar1448 Жыл бұрын
I've seen one icon corner I liked very much. Christ on the right, Theotokos on the left. Then the patron saints of the father and all sons on the right side, and the patron saints of the mother and all daughters on the left. I thought that was a neat concept
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Жыл бұрын
Ooh def is!
@loverlei79
@loverlei79 3 жыл бұрын
Ps. I "saved" 2 icons from the floor of an antique store for $40. I didn't realize that they were both hand painted from Greece. It's not every day you get an original Greek Theotokos Icon and St Mark Icon for that price. Of course I'm not Greek so...i had to have the inscriptions translated. I Treasure them dearly.
@stefanl3299
@stefanl3299 3 жыл бұрын
I correctly guessed on the community post that this would be a new Reading Icons video, for my reward I request an Icon of St. Iosif of Voldogrendsky-Novgorodorov the Great of Prussia.
@American-Jello
@American-Jello Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@posavka
@posavka 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@sasquatchdonut2674
@sasquatchdonut2674 Жыл бұрын
As a catholic, I’m in the process of making a home altar combining the eastern and western traditions. Im going to have a wall of icons but on the altar itself there will be statuary and a Benedictine altar arrangement.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@diansc7322
@diansc7322 Жыл бұрын
what is a benedictine altar arrangement if I may ask
@sasquatchdonut2674
@sasquatchdonut2674 Жыл бұрын
@@diansc7322 sorry for the late answer but it’s like the type you typically see at the tlm with the six candles and crucifix in the middle. The 6 candles are in groups of 3 on each side of the crucifix
@user-go4qn4zi6c
@user-go4qn4zi6c 3 жыл бұрын
Brother, greetings from the US. I appreciate your videos, and I thank you for the effort you put into them. May the Lord and Our Lady bless you. -Your Papist friend
@petrosdorizas6814
@petrosdorizas6814 3 жыл бұрын
Saint Symeon the Strawman, I believe he knew Saint Gregory the Kettleblack and Saint John of the Slippery Slope.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
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@corjesu_1
@corjesu_1 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Sara gets better soon, may the mother of God be with her
@marcustulliuscicero9512
@marcustulliuscicero9512 Жыл бұрын
"icon corners should face east" *Me setting up one in my van "Hmmmmm"
@PSNSMANIACALMIND1st
@PSNSMANIACALMIND1st 9 ай бұрын
Well then I hope you can park your van appropriately during prayer ☺️
@alidaweber1023
@alidaweber1023 7 ай бұрын
I've lived in an RV for nearly two decades. You don't really have any control over which lots will be available for rental in the RV parks where you will be staying.
@violetrose415
@violetrose415 3 жыл бұрын
I missed your vids! Well, as a coptic christian, I never grew up with the concept of icon corners at all We don't have that concept, thinking about it:D We have icons everywhere in the home really, scattered I like the concept behind the icon corner, but never grew up with it
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 2 жыл бұрын
Really?! I've never encountered a Copt before! As for me, I'm an American Protestant by birth, but I've been attending a Greek Orthodox church. I don't own any icons yet, (I haven't had the chance to get one,) but I do have a small area in my home where I pray. I have a Bible, a cross, and a couple of candles that I light. It's actually really helped me pray more often and more consistently, so I thank God for that. I wanted to ask, do Copts use Prayer Rules or prayer books? Just curious.
@dovganjuk
@dovganjuk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I decided to watch Friends with my mom 😀 God bless
@dovganjuk
@dovganjuk 3 жыл бұрын
Sry, I changed my mind after started watching the first episode
@tynytian
@tynytian 3 жыл бұрын
@@dovganjuk good call
@bogdanrab1350
@bogdanrab1350 3 жыл бұрын
Bojan I love your videos and the humor fits perfectly. Keep it up and God bless you !
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😃 God bless you too!
@DarthJarJar6
@DarthJarJar6 5 ай бұрын
The day before black friday, i saw a couple of icons. I stuffed them in the display washing machine, and went there the next day
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 5 ай бұрын
What?
@TheMountAndBladerX10
@TheMountAndBladerX10 2 жыл бұрын
You might be suprised what icons one can find where you least expect it. My dad had an old Icon of the Theotokos from russia. according to the inscription its from the 1700s, but i think it might be a later recreation. I found in a little chamber stacked under a bunch of secular paintings that werent hung up anymore.
@westernorthodoxprayersandd7205
@westernorthodoxprayersandd7205 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work once again, Bojan. I absolutely died laughing at 3:56. Also I came up with the snarky "icon pile" to refer to my friends who add things haphazardly as they're obtained.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
LOL Icon pile! I'll use that one!
@TheAtlarchy
@TheAtlarchy 3 жыл бұрын
I love the strawman joke... it's a few days after I watched your video on tollhouses with my Godfather (historian and theologian member of a Monastic order... long story) who called you out on strawman arguments... he did enjoy your jokes however and I send you best wishes and blessings from us both!
@TheAtlarchy
@TheAtlarchy 3 жыл бұрын
Just in case anyone wanted to misinterpret my comment... I still love your videos and will keep watching them as they are very fun and well drawn! God Bless!
@ernjcbv
@ernjcbv 2 жыл бұрын
Many devout Catholics around the world own some sort of Icon. We usually don't have corner for it though. Us Catholics typically have a main altar in our house, facing east(preferably). I don't have Icons right now but I am planning to buy some, and a censer cause I am so extra LOL. Anyways may the Holy Mother of God intercede in our prayers and may the Lord the Jesus Christ protect shed the light of the Holy Spirit onto us to protect us.
@KE4VVF
@KE4VVF 3 жыл бұрын
Very Comical! I always love your videos. Thank you my Precious Sibling in Christ.
@V4rnier
@V4rnier Жыл бұрын
The combination of your art style plus the musics used bring me such an inner peace. By the way, although I'm Catholic, I'm going to make an icon corner as well!
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Жыл бұрын
Icon corners are known in Catholicism, they're just called home altars :)
@V4rnier
@V4rnier Жыл бұрын
​ @Bible Illustrated Yeah, that's true, how could i forgot? My mom herself has one! But I'm planning to use only icons. Having the same type of art looks more harmonic to me! By the way, I know you're not catholic but maybe you can help me in this one: do you know if we also pray/do our altars towards north? Cheers and thank you for your videos!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Currently in the process of setting up our icon corner, as we're still new at this. The safest place from my kids running off with the icons and drawing on them with crayon is the east wall of the office. At least it makes streaming sung scripture and prayers, lol. Thanks for your work, please keep at it.
@mcspankey4810
@mcspankey4810 2 жыл бұрын
Your humor is awesome
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 жыл бұрын
No, you're awesome
@jacobsaint1874
@jacobsaint1874 3 жыл бұрын
6:14 love The Simpsons reference there!!!
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Hah thanks! Glad people recognize it!
@TheBloodyKnuckle
@TheBloodyKnuckle Жыл бұрын
The best video on Orthodox practice I've seen so far!❤
@ArielRyanBautista1313
@ArielRyanBautista1313 2 жыл бұрын
This channel has a lot of good advice, thank you Bojan
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 жыл бұрын
Always, glad you like it!
@heckinmemes6430
@heckinmemes6430 3 жыл бұрын
Always remember to rotate through your icon collection to level them up. You wouldn't want to be four or five tollhouses in and realize your team is out of HP(Holy points). I'm joking, of course. Informative video as always.
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! That reminds me of the first Dark Cloud game, and to a lesser extent, Dark Cloud 2 (Dark Chronicle outside the US.) Wow, I loved those games!
@faintvids7352
@faintvids7352 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bojan, I like the blue icon of Christ in your icon corner. It's a real masterpiece!
@LeperMessiah01234
@LeperMessiah01234 10 ай бұрын
Many catholics including myself also have an “icon corner” though not always with Icons, but more often we use statues.
@journeywithjoah1142
@journeywithjoah1142 3 жыл бұрын
I have a problem. I am a covert who has a problem with "holy hoarding". What do I do with all these icons??
@thomask9272
@thomask9272 3 жыл бұрын
This last year, I've bought tons of statues and candles. (Kind of a holy shopping spree like yours.) I keep some of them in the closet, until I decide it's time to change my prayer space. It's sort of like redecorating, and it helps keep the space feeling fresh.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Give them away. Don't buy an icon of a saint unless stick to praying to him/her for a month or more.
@journeywithjoah1142
@journeywithjoah1142 3 жыл бұрын
@@BibleIllustrated Ok thanks
@Shardalon
@Shardalon 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, how would one have an icon of their guardian angel, except for the rare occasion you've actually seen them?
@dakotalaynen6711
@dakotalaynen6711 Жыл бұрын
I love the humor. Thank you.
@TonyRebater
@TonyRebater 3 жыл бұрын
Western Branch of American Presbylutheranism, sounds like the simpsons reference
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Why I'd never
@crypticpeel1158
@crypticpeel1158 6 ай бұрын
im roman catholic but i wanna get a few icons and crosses for a corner in my room not to idolise or replace my faith nor remind me but to keep my bedroom not just protected but a sanctuary of peace where i can lay or sit and be in the presence of my religion as my family are atheists (do keep in mind i was christened when i was a baby as it was the thing to do and also back then a way to appear legally a person in my country, but im starting to go through the motions of getting baptised accepted and placed within my local church)
@DjSt.EphenSPOOk-E.Diaz420
@DjSt.EphenSPOOk-E.Diaz420 Жыл бұрын
❤ Ur Videos thank U. I'll Pray 4U 😅
@DjSt.EphenSPOOk-E.Diaz420
@DjSt.EphenSPOOk-E.Diaz420 Жыл бұрын
and I'll pray 4 Sara gets better
@violetrose415
@violetrose415 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I like the return of our convertitis friend He took his Orthodoxy game too far haha
@sabrinalisten
@sabrinalisten 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you - useful and funny
@Shcke
@Shcke 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Bojan, what is your thought on the latest Serbian bible translation from prof. Dragan Milin?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't read it yet (and I sorta lack any scholarly knowledge of the translations to give a proper overview) :-)
@ManlyMan420
@ManlyMan420 Ай бұрын
1:34 Animal Crossing apple? TOM NOOK HAS CONVERTED TO ORTHODOXY!!!!
@suem6004
@suem6004 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I may actually do this. Are you an iconographer? How do we know who our guardian angel is?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 жыл бұрын
Not an iconographer but starting out on iconography (recently sold my first icon). As for the guardian angel, each one of us has their own individual guardian angel. We do not know their names.
@suem6004
@suem6004 2 жыл бұрын
@@BibleIllustrated Sorry to not understand. How do you know what guardian angel icon to buy if you know neither the name nor how he/she looks? Sincere question. Thank you for your videos. You make orthodoxy so even I can understand
@johnpeskey4519
@johnpeskey4519 4 ай бұрын
Just to clarify…the icons FACE East…so they are placed in a Western wall. The person praying faces West…yes?
@jacobe9719
@jacobe9719 2 ай бұрын
other way around
@kellyshea92
@kellyshea92 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered some first 3 Icons and Lampada. Cant wait hang them up. Also just got church clothes for the first time in 13 years. What a wonderful and beautiful religion.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Жыл бұрын
So happy for you! 😃
@kellyshea92
@kellyshea92 Жыл бұрын
@@BibleIllustrated and thank you for all of this info! Ive been researching church history for a while and I just love your content and how easy you get the point across in a funny/easy to understand styles. I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness so all of this is just mind boggling to me.
@James-en1ob
@James-en1ob 3 жыл бұрын
How about damaged Icons Bojan? What should we do to them? Should we restore them? If we can't restore them, what should we do to them?
@3rd.Eye.Saw.Destruction
@3rd.Eye.Saw.Destruction Жыл бұрын
Wait so the icons themselves face east or they face west and we face east when we pray?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Жыл бұрын
No, we face east and icons face west
@ThumbKnuckle
@ThumbKnuckle Жыл бұрын
Since there are icons on most of my patristic books, I'm not sure if I need any icons other than one of Christ.
@hamsterman32
@hamsterman32 3 жыл бұрын
1:37 "In circumcision we are to...." Why this cliff hanger?
@jaisonsimon
@jaisonsimon 2 жыл бұрын
💀
@gustavothespaniard9689
@gustavothespaniard9689 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting.
@craftart6618
@craftart6618 2 жыл бұрын
How do u do with icon corner with statues then ? ( Even orthodox have these, as icons cutouts that Are vested)
@baccusthedrunken
@baccusthedrunken 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you have to foster an icon you find at a thrift store next to dusty Beatles albums.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Those are especially blessed
@James-en1ob
@James-en1ob 3 жыл бұрын
3:03 Is this a Harry Potter reference? You have good taste, good sir.
@johnpaulhumphrey2981
@johnpaulhumphrey2981 3 жыл бұрын
Can you have icon corner in tents and vans? can priests bless non-traditional housing forms?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes :-)
@alidaweber1023
@alidaweber1023 7 ай бұрын
We've lived in an RV for a long time. We try to have the RV, and our car, blessed every year. Even if you don't live in your vehicle, it's a good idea to have your priest bless it.
@iloveAW123
@iloveAW123 Жыл бұрын
As a buddhist . Im like to draw some icon of orthodox . And make a cross like in church.
@joenathan8059
@joenathan8059 2 жыл бұрын
How does one find a patron saint and what are guardian angels?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 жыл бұрын
Here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmWXZKycn6uoeNU
@joenathan8059
@joenathan8059 2 жыл бұрын
@@BibleIllustrated thank you
@anyarudko6308
@anyarudko6308 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on the Apocrypha and why some reject it?
@justinmassie2235
@justinmassie2235 2 жыл бұрын
Praise Jesus! In Jesus Name I pray! Amen ❤️🙏📖
@TheLadyPlantagenet
@TheLadyPlantagenet 2 жыл бұрын
Will we get this soundtrack on future videos again? Haven’t seen it in a while :(
@noahlindgren1014
@noahlindgren1014 3 жыл бұрын
How do I arrange my icon corner if it’s just icons of the crucifixion and resurrection (since my pantokrator is an hour away)
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
I would put them side by side :-)
@sterlingwilkes3240
@sterlingwilkes3240 Жыл бұрын
Dont know if im doing it right, but: christ on top, mary to his left and saint thomas underneath
@Skipsul
@Skipsul 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo..... that 2 story iconostasis in the front hall was a bit too much?
@NilceLima-s7d
@NilceLima-s7d Ай бұрын
I only have a secular painting of Jesus. Can i venerate it?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Ай бұрын
Yes :)
@juliaboon9741
@juliaboon9741 3 жыл бұрын
Without thinking I put the Theotokos on the left of Christ because she is looking right and it felt balanced. Then I saw it was the norm lol.
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 2 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised how often things like that happen!
@kindredharpy65
@kindredharpy65 4 ай бұрын
hello i am trying to convert to eastern orthodox and my family is catholic is it ok if i would put my prayer comer in my room?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 4 ай бұрын
@@kindredharpy65 of course it is :)
@kindredharpy65
@kindredharpy65 4 ай бұрын
@@BibleIllustrated thank you i have been watching your video for a while and have been helping with the conversion
@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813
@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813 3 жыл бұрын
Can Catholic have an icon corner
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@vickyrestartingchannel
@vickyrestartingchannel Жыл бұрын
how does one know their Guardian Angel?
@xxsinfulxbumxx6341
@xxsinfulxbumxx6341 3 жыл бұрын
If your nations flag is a cross, would it be inappropriate to have it decorating your icon corner? Like the Georgian flag or the British flags or the Scandinavian flags?
@Shalefist
@Shalefist 3 жыл бұрын
I would think his meaning is that unless you use the national or local flag as an aspect of worship, it is probably not the best idea to have it in a holy space; it would be the functional equivalent of an Orthodox church having the state and national flags flanking the altar behind the iconostasis. There is a reason those objects, if in a church, are at flanking sides of the entire iconostasis (and thus out of the entire sacred space itself).
@JacksonWilde-t7y
@JacksonWilde-t7y Ай бұрын
5:43 bro called me out hear (im Byzantine Catholic but its close enough 😂)
@agirlbelngingtthewild9625
@agirlbelngingtthewild9625 3 жыл бұрын
Is it bad to have several icons of Jesus and Mary on your wall/corner? I cause I do 👀
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that. I personally am not fond of it, I like to have singular icons of saints (unless it is a specific feastday depicted). But in general, nothing wrong :D
@Uljas_dunn
@Uljas_dunn 10 ай бұрын
ïs it ok to have icons even tho im not baptized or chrismated?
@Uljas_dunn
@Uljas_dunn 10 ай бұрын
@Ybbob1644 I know
@iliandimitrov4857
@iliandimitrov4857 4 ай бұрын
Добро видео, благодарим :)
@EthanHaddad7
@EthanHaddad7 3 жыл бұрын
“In circumcision, we are to-“
@christodoula
@christodoula Жыл бұрын
But I WANT the giant shrine 😞
@jamesajiduah2001
@jamesajiduah2001 3 жыл бұрын
Long time no see!
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Back finally!
@baronofbahlingen9662
@baronofbahlingen9662 3 жыл бұрын
Idk where you get comments for Q&As but I’m submitting this in case you see it. Who/which church do you consider properly canonical for America/all-North America, if you thing it’s definitely one of them that is. And if you’re familiar with him, what do you think of Archbishop Elphidophoros, he’s my Archbishop and I promise nothing you could say would be considered offensive, I’ve heard plenty already.
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't he the one who's been pulling all that political nonsense into the church? I don't know about Bojan, but as for me, I'm not a fan of the insertion of politics where it doesn't belong. Not into video games, not into movies and TV shows, not into sports, not into the workplace, not into my taxes, and most certainly not into my church!
@Alex_0510
@Alex_0510 6 ай бұрын
Hi! Do you have a discord community?
@El_Jupo
@El_Jupo 4 ай бұрын
If I ever got an icon of me. I would replace the mirror in my bathroom with it
@WanderingManProd
@WanderingManProd 2 жыл бұрын
Now what I want to know is what's the Eastern branch of Presbylutheranism 😆???
@dominikdurkovsky8318
@dominikdurkovsky8318 7 ай бұрын
3:20 Or you can make an extra wall in the house
@TheSpekkel1
@TheSpekkel1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video :)
@BookofAkathists
@BookofAkathists 3 жыл бұрын
Practical and funny. Ha!
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Hah thanks!
@acekoala457
@acekoala457 5 ай бұрын
I am going to be giving away Icons just because I am moving.
@J0HN5AW
@J0HN5AW Жыл бұрын
As a convert to Orthodoxy, via GOARCH, married over 3 decades to an awesome loving wife who is not Orthodox, I say my prayers alone, in secret, in my closet, so to speak, Matthew 6 : 6.
@ikacrvic7325
@ikacrvic7325 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bojan i would like to give you one good topic for a video. I am an orthodox christian from Serbia and i realy like heavy metal music but it is considered satanic so it would be cool if you could make a video aboit it, is it bad or is it just us on earth that judge. All support from Ivan.❤️☦️
@slackjaw4270
@slackjaw4270 Жыл бұрын
Hi Serbian friend, ask yourself does the music glorify Christ? For something different check out Vivaldi composer. He was METAL and did glorify Christ with his music.
@alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897
@alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897 3 жыл бұрын
The 10% of the tithe went to the Levitical Priest in the Old Testament. Since Christ is our great High Priest there is no need for tithing on top of ones offering.
@saveliysotnikov2383
@saveliysotnikov2383 3 жыл бұрын
7 minutes long uploaded 7 hours ago 777 views nice
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
So satisfying
@robertwaguespack9414
@robertwaguespack9414 3 жыл бұрын
See, Bojan is doing Pope Francis intention be evangelizing us by explaining the icon corner.
@firstaid56
@firstaid56 2 жыл бұрын
Presba-Lutheranism
@heliopijpe
@heliopijpe 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha ^^ nice
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kendrashirley5697
@kendrashirley5697 Ай бұрын
No. All of this is just too much. Icons are not necessary and an entire corner is just a shrine. We have one icon. It’s for my catacumen husband. And I don’t like it. But it stays. This is soooo weird. A how to set up an icon corner is weirder. Super dogmatic. I’m sure God really cares about all of this. 🙄
@333Paradigm333
@333Paradigm333 8 ай бұрын
Praying to images is idolatry, regardless of the excuses that are used to justify it. There is no Biblical precedent for this folly, but this is what happens when traditions of men are elevated to have the same authority as the word of God. May God open your eyes to the truth
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 8 ай бұрын
We're not praying to images. If you want to make an argument, use a proper one that takes into account what we actually believe in. We also believe that praying to icons would be idolatry.
@333Paradigm333
@333Paradigm333 8 ай бұрын
@@BibleIllustrated This Orthodox Church would seem to disagree with you. The Meaning of Icons | Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church "The Orthodox Church uses icons to assist in worship. Icons are a 'window to heaven' and they help us to focus on the divine things." So, they are used as an assist in prayers. I have heard enough Orthodox Fathers say they pray to the saints through focusing/directing their prayers through the icons of those saints to ask them for things/blessings etc. That is a form of necromancy which the Bible forbids. I am not misrepresenting iconodulia, it is the veneration of images, and prayer to dead saints. Not Biblical at all, and I can prove that by asking; do you have a chapter and verse in the Bible that supports such a practice?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 8 ай бұрын
@@333Paradigm333 Yes, they say it assits in prayer. Not that they are prayed to. And I'd like to see exact quotes where they say "focusing/directing their prayers through the icons of those saints." Before I provide you with biblical evidence, why do you think that it has to be directly supported with the Bible? That itself is a novel teaching unsupported for the first 16 centuries of Christianity.
@333Paradigm333
@333Paradigm333 8 ай бұрын
@@BibleIllustrated Exact quotes? (Even if it is paraphrased it captures the essence of what they said). You won't give me simple scripture reference to back up your unbiblical practice, because it doesn't exist. To answer your question, the Bible is God's word, His infallible revelation to mankind. The Bible is authoritative as a result of the author, and no matter the "Church/Christian institution" they are not the ultimate authority as it is run by fallible man, who can make mistakes. That is why all Christians must submit to the word of of God as the final authority. Tradition has it's place, if it is not in violation of the Holy Scriptures. You can make excuses for your iconodulia but it is in violation of the scriptures as previously stated.
@user-vv1do1wg1j
@user-vv1do1wg1j 7 ай бұрын
idolatry is worship of a false deity, worship is defined as adoration pointed to a deity. no one sees Mary and the saints as gods; so youre just wrong with basic word definitions dude. show me one Orthodox christian who says the saints are deities. actually we praise God THROUGH them, we recognize their virtues, as it was given to them BY GOD, when i seek the intercession of a saint, to pray for me, the saint prays TO GOD. the Theotokos is special and holy because she SUBMITTED herself FULLY to the will OF GOD, not out of her own innate virtue (as this virtue is from God, her acceptance/loyalty to God, her own free will to follow God is why she is special) all virtue is from God, not from yourself. when we venerate God's saints we venerate him, when we recognize the great mercies and grace of God acting through his saints we recognize him. it is only by God's grace, that a human can become worthy of being called a saint.
@linak7155
@linak7155 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't! Scripture says not to make idols...it is a form of idolatry!
@frankfakerson6605
@frankfakerson6605 2 жыл бұрын
It's holy because it Comes from the traditions of the church "The body of christ"
@linak7155
@linak7155 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankfakerson6605 yes, I am aware.Sadly in churches man-made traditions take precedence over YHVH 's simple commands.
@carolusaugustussanctorum
@carolusaugustussanctorum 2 жыл бұрын
@@linak7155 Idols are images made to be workshiped in God's place. The icons are not idols; they, just as the cherubim statues in the Arch and the Temple, are decorative holy art, that obviously are not workshiped. Christ's Church wouldn't commit such a idiotic sacrilege; idolatry is a sin by the Church.
@BL33D1NG1NS1D31
@BL33D1NG1NS1D31 2 жыл бұрын
This is Idol Worship... wtf? "Bible Illustrated" but your theology and understanding of the Bible is wrong and terrifyingly misleading...
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 жыл бұрын
Nope.
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