Reading Master Duel's Negative Reviews (So You Don't have To)

[@VixYW]

I remember seeing a review once saying the game was more unfair than Forbidden Memories. That made my day.

[@chaoticjexak]

i mean to be fair you probably would stand more of a chance as a rookie vs the scripted loss hiashin vs being a rookie against tearlaments.

[@VixYW]

@@chaoticjexak Oh boy. That's a hot take and I love it. At least the Tear player can still brick somehow. Haishin does not.

[@chaoticjexak]

tearls can brick? I'll be honest i havent tried them yet becuase the first 'good modern deck' ive been using is rikka sun (someone taught me the line), so i havent really gotten to anything like tearls yet. I just kinda assumed modern decks dont brick.

[@VixYW]

@@chaoticjexak It's not common to happen at full power, but there is a non zero possibility of them having no way to mill cards with their opening hand, or they can completely whiff their first mill and their turn end then and there.

[@chaoticjexak]

@@VixYW that does sound pretty funny in a cosmic sort of way

[@eherden2169]

I know Im out of the norm but I pretty much play master duel to build the decks I like and use them 90% of the time in Solo mode, then play a few ranked matches to get 500 easy gems when I go from Rokie 2 to Bronze 5 (then wait till the reset).

[@daedalus5253]

I do the same a lot (mainly with not really competitive decks like sacred beasts that I really like but don’t wanna stop the turn after one ash) although I mainly stay in Gold instead and sometimes try going for high plat with more competitive decks/variants.

[@Pandachu123]

Oh, so it's not solely PVP?

[@Pandachu123]

Oh, so it's not solely PVP?

[@daedalus5253]

@@Pandachu123 There’s the solo mode with its different gates (tutorial, monarch’s, plunderpatrol, subterror, etc). You can also watch Duel Lives, participate in simple matches (I‘m not sure if that’s the English name) and set up matches against friends online. But the solo gate is the only non-pvp and the decks/AIs there are only a fun matchup with non-meta decks due to their power level.

[@eherden2169]

@@Pandachu123 Nope they monthly add new decks to fight against the AI. I don't think many players are not interested in playing there unless its for the one time rewards. I do play the event though.

[@gimmeallurmoney3883]

Player: doesnt know how to play properly Player: jumps straight into PVP Player: why am i losing?

[@ZuppaTorta]

where else do you go you have two options get fucked (casual) and get fucked harder (ranked) or learn elementsabers????? (singleplayer) i mean i may be having fun playing some niche deck like marincess cause i've played this game for fucking years. but the new player which decided to learn how to play yugioh cause they had cards just lying around isnt going to

[@ChikoChikorita]

Listen, I'm not saying I don't agree that sitting through a combo when you know you've lost can be frustrating, but you know the moment you put up a minimal effort push that last card in your opponent's hand is going to be something stupid like Gorz. Also i really love when you can tell the last time someone played Yugioh was on the playground and is upset that Celtic Guardian + Magic Cylinder isn't a viable opener anymore.

[@Citizen_Nappa23]

Idk Abt those 2 cards but I've shut down a number of Meta decks with a burn/Mill goat strategy all old cards too.

[@r3zaful]

​@@Citizen_Nappa23ocg goat is far oppressive than tcg because we get the cards faster than tcg, otk isn't that rare.

[@dravenryoma08]

I save myself from the frustration by just playing ranked every month up to Bronze 1. I don't have to catch up to the meta, I just make 1 good deck and use it every month. And now, I have so much UR and SR dust that I can actually make a full deck without even using gems. Sadly, I still need to spend gems from time to time because you can only stack up to 10k F2P gems and the gems you get afterwards that are sent to the mailbox would expire after a month.

[@HarunoSoul]

I agree, ban Maxx C. I'm tired of people acting like it's not a problem.

[@RenegadeStriker7]

Nah. Skill issue

[@Slender_neet]

Just draw the out

[@Sinononon]

Its not

[@swordsman1_messer]

It’s a cursed card. 1/100 times I use it, it actually gives the broken advantage that people complain about. 4/100, just a minor boost and still get punched in the face. 95/100, Maxx C gets negated/wasted.

[@zaekulia]

I'm tired of people pretending like there aren't other cards that are even more of a problem

[@Japheth123078]

For players struggling against meta players I recommend using Kaiju decks for going second or Anti meta deck variants for graveyards and special summoning lock downs for first turns. And if you really hate other players, use burn decks. And if you don't want to be stressed out of all the meta bullsh*ts, just stay in platinum, don't go to diamond or master rank because that is where the sweaty-tryhards meta slaves are at. I'm an old school Yugioh player and I've been playing Yugioh Master Duel for a year now. There are some fun moments and there are some stressful moments.

[@zaekulia]

Can recommend Kaiju-Vaylantz Just push your problems into the spell/trap zone It's that easy :D

[@e-tan3911]

@@zaekulia Giving Vaylantz to new players or yugiboomers is like giving a dude with high blood pressure Mcdonalds. You are just ASKING for a heart attack at that point.

[@zaekulia]

@@e-tan3911 I mean it's already a totally different game for them so might as well give them the board game experience Also the entire archetype works the same so it's just about learning the basic mechanic and the specific role for every card and on which cards to use the Kaijus

[@e-tan3911]

@@zaekulia yeah, but you see, Vaylantz has 2 things that yugiboomers hate- text and scales. Newer players will have their head spinning after the first 3-4 cards. Again, you are just ASKING to give them a heart attack.

[@zaekulia]

@@e-tan3911 let's be honest, if you're playing pure Vaylantz you won't use the scales 90% of the time and as I already said, half the text on every card is basically the same as on the others Not any more complicated then Floo and most other stuff nowadays unless you make them play Numeron

[@khalifeh22]

I have graduated from yugi booming, i used to complain about the meta, but now, i crush the meta.... Or get crushed by the meta. Then i rise like the pheonix from its ashes and start learning something else.

[@ElijahKlar]

I'll give people this, smurfing is a huge issue, I feel like in rookie people should be mostly seeing other beginner decks, and through bronze people should be mostly seeing structure deck variants

[@dudono1744]

You should also see whacky decks on low ranks, some people might just build a deck they know and like.

[@calciumgoodness4073]

As someone who loves this game, all I can say is fair tbh. The game is not beginner friendly and is a shell shock for old school players.

[@Crooked_Mantis]

Yeah, I'm entirely new to the card game, and I still enjoy and play Master Duel after 3 months with it. But I really kind of agree with the "Yugi-Boomers" on the point that having to fight fire with fire (meta against anti-meta) in order to play your move sucks. Mind you, I didn't say 'in order to win' because I've never really been concerned with winning. The only thing I want is a back-and-forth competition. Even if I'm fighting a losing battle I at least want to add something to the board without playing cards everyone has seen and are tired of seeing. I want to be able to show my opponent more than one card, so they might pick up on the fact that my deck has a theme I hand picked. And players combo-ing into a field that's overkill is a fair critique. It never feels good to be on the receiving end, and I have definitely seen combos that exceed the daily challenge numbers for synchros. Some opponents have incredible shutdown cards like Baronne de Fleur and 2 other high attack monsters while I have one set card, three cards in my hand, and 2400 LP... they're still combo-ing. Even if I did have a trick up my sleeve with that setup, how much of a setback is it actually going to be to a pro player against a clear beginner like me? What I am going to do? Deal 1000 damage to a spotless 8000 LP counter? Clear the board of these monsters with a card effect that somehow bypasses the negation effects? What does that really change? It only amounts to a dent, a flesh wound. Is really such a bad thing to come out of a duel scathed that players really can never afford to take chances on people? It's sad.

[@mrmeteor64]

I mean he not lying about the 37 minutes or the no turns I have seen this happen I have the KZbin video.

[@GSchneeglockchen]

That last one is 100% pasta material

[@lawrencewilson3862]

What they should do is leave the event duel retractions available for casual matches, that should curve most of the hate people have towards this game.

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

The truth is; the problem lies within the Yu-Gi-Oh card game and its management itself, not the Master Duel game.

[@snoweefrost4412]

I honestly wish it wasn't this way. YGO became something basically unrecognizable to me. I'm 100% a yugiboomer (that's the term right?), I mean I had Dark Magician & Ocean Dragon Lord starter decks and a tin that was still from the single digit 2000s. My first YGO game was the Gameboy Color "Dark Duel Stories". Synchros were new to me, I still consider them "new". Kingdom/Battle City 1 & 2/GX were what I knew. I liked that card game but I couldn't find people to play it with me irl. So fast forward many years later and this game has completely taken the 'Special' out of Special Summon. I'm frustrated that 'my' turn doesn't truly belong to me. I miss the back-and-forth tug of war that could happen over the course of 6-7 turns at a casual level. Konami has made over 10,000 YGO cards and only about 100 of them seem viable. Modern players may like the game as it is now, and while I honestly can't say I understand why, I do know that there is a strong possibility that I'm wanting a card game experience that hasn't existed in close to 18 years. I hope that perhaps Speed Duel will be more akin to what I'm looking for, despite its name I'm told it is more like the original experience

[@khornebread4802]

I just want to play Archfiends... But can only really do it in solo because even in Bronze and Silver you have plenty of smurfs playing Tier 0. It just really takes the fun out of ranked. Most of the festivals are really fun at least.

[@Evixyn]

I do agree with these negative comments for the most part, ha ha. Fifteen minutes for a combo deck is short :0 I love maximum C, drawing cards when my opponent empty their whole deck is the best thing ever, as I could draw my ashly blossoms or my meteorite card and his whole monster zone is gone. My favorite part going first / second is special summon my golden lord boss monster, set five cards and pass. I played the application for a year, and when my favorite cards was banned and limited I stopped playing application.

[@Citizen_Nappa23]

My only issue is they should scrap "casual" because ppl just bring in their favorite Meta decks with a no fear of loosing points destroying the whole concept of playing a casual game. Instead they should have 2 alternate formats called Goat and Edison which follow all the banned cards within their Era and banning all cards that exhisted afterwards. Ppl who enjoy casual Yu-Gi-Oh should be able to do so just like Meta players also have the right to hold a ladder position. The issue is there is really only one available option and that's Meta and is slowly killing the game off.

[@Picmanreborn]

10:53 nah this review was golden😂😂😂😂😂

[@erickchristensen746]

Not entirely the game’s fault. It’s just that Yugioh itself has become a boring mess.

[@NightmareEadin]

I wont lie I am someone who smurfs in MD even though I only play Gold and below because its cheaper making a new deck via restarting then deconstructing my current decks. (Admittedly this is before YGO Omega implemented the MD Banlist so I could deck test there)

[@juanpabloparzela]

Modern Yugioh /Master duel is just trash. Where’s the fun in waiting 15 minutes during your opponent’s first turn just for him to lock you down with his meta bullshit? Some meta users in the comments saying it’s about « knowing how to play » just makes it cringier. RIP Master Duel

[@Tent817]

11 minutes and 25 seconds of a vtuber coping about people not liking a game and giving criticism, and receiving some snarky comment in return

[@laby1827]

I may have smurfed with meta decks, but it's only because i don't tryhard ranked, so i always derank to silver at the end of the seasons

[@dudono1744]

just smurf with stupid stuff.

[@laby1827]

@@dudono1744 that's not intentional smurfing, i enjoy playing meta but i don't play enough to get on a high rank

[@dudono1744]

@@laby1827 fair, ranks shouldn't reset imo

[@ryankoopacanada]

The only real thing I hate about this game is just the endless amount of combo decks

[@clydenavs8498]

The only people who hates the negative reviews are the people who using the meta and winning. Yugioh should be fun duel like in yugioh GX Anime easy to understand and just simple fight not like 20 special summons per turn

[@montyturner6511]

I will admit here. Combo decks when your facing them are pretty fucking annoying as heck. Might as well pop some popcorn and when I come back my opponent still be break dancing with his or hers combo cards. ON THE SECOND TURN. T_T💢

[@dudono1744]

I don't play MD, but my fav part of the game is trying to build decks around very stupid ideas (stuff like infernity artifact for the memes) and trying to optimize them. And it would be very annoying if I didn't get to actually try to play for several games (unless I brick hard all the time).

[@HarunoSoul]

On the issue of bots, yeah there are ALOT of them in Silver/Gold. They all play suicide decks or structure decks. And when they do play structure decks, they just ram all their weaker monsters into you. Its both funny and annoying.

[@es7814]

Yugiboomer isnt even an insult at this point. I play meta decks now but everything feels so robotic. Many people dont even need strategy its just rinse and repeat.

[@mrmeteor64]

Turns out maybe I don’t but I do have the PTSD from it yay!

[@Cardlimits]

not all bots are chinese, cheaters have no race.

[@zironVT]

The turn timer is 5 minutes right, how are we playing by ourselves for 60 minutes, where is the list?

[@silverfang4583]

It happens when you play cross-play And your opponent is using console or mobile, as the game is so poorly optimised for console and mobile that players consistently have an extra 2 seconds an activation waiting time. And 2 seconds might not seem like much but add that to every single card activation and it builds up

[@Citizen_Nappa23]

Ya I get annoyed every mobile player I'm up against because it takes them 40 minutes to make a 2 minute board in real life.

[@muhammadaffry2123]

Me play master duel Me found it's hard Me don't want learn the game Me give it bad review

[@Virtual_NeoCo]

tbh those chinese bots are really easy to beat

[@levelengineSR]

tht whit3 kid is right though on Maxx C

[@ccc2839]

i love to sht on yugiboomer but the despair of constant Tear mirror on MD held me

[@astrobonk]

While the reviews are very yugi-boomer, can we take a minute to admit that MD can be so much better if the game was actually BALANCED AROUND BO1. A Banlist that has prank at 3, Maxx C at 3, Super Poly at 3. for a game where you can't just say "well they got lucky and sacked me game 1. hopefully it doesn't happen games 2 or 3!" because games 2 and 3 do not exist. If they adjust the forbidden and limited list to accommodate the format being Bo1, as opposed to it just being 1 shot at "hope you drew the out", PvP would be so much better. Also, I feel terrible for these people who haven't played yugioh in 15-20 years and expect normal summon breaker set book of moon to be good. Goat Format is your best friend.

[@TLAproductions]

People have wined so much about maxx c that I am at the point where I am pro maxx c

[@ygoplayer9392]

What's funny is a lot of them are obviously newbies who has no idea how the game is supposed to be played

[@VixYW]

Really sad there are no limited formats constantly available to ease new players into the more advanced stuff slowly. Or just so we all can take a break from the meta stuff every now and then...

[@daedalus5253]

⁠​⁠@@VixYWThey totally should at least make Legend Anthology always open (but they would also need to change its banlist constantly to prevent tier 1/0 decks being discovered and than used forever. Quite a lot of work that would slow down the frequency or quality of new solo gates and packs, I assume.

[@VixYW]

@@daedalus5253 Yes, and yes but also it's BS that the latter is true. They most likely have the resources to hire a full team to deal with the alternative format without harming the rest of the update schedule.

[@Pandachu123]

​@@daedalus5253I'm a newbie who's still learning how to play (I read the manga, watched the anime, and played Cross Duel/Duel Links)... And while losing too many times can be a huge letdown to me, I'd at least try to pick up the game again after I feel better.

[@daedalus5253]

@@Pandachu123 Good to hear.

[@TheBiggBopper]

I think the reviews that complain about combo-ing and how long the turns are taking is hilarious, literally just play an old format like goat, problem solved.

[@HunterStiles651]

The really sad part if Master Duel was just Goat Format simulator a lot of these people would still think it was too unbalanced. They don't want old Yugioh. They want the Yugioh they enjoyed on the playground in Elementary School. Turns out if your bar is Playground Yugioh, a format with BLS Envoy, Metamorphosis + Scapegoat + Thousand-Eyes Restrict, and three of the most broken card advantage spells in Yugioh history is still too OP.

[@clydenavs8498]

Guys have so you guys remember Duel Masters by Wizard of the coast the TCG card game let us all play that game hopefully someone make an online game on steam or mobile for that game trust me it is well balanced and easy to learn. And no OTK. And better than magic the gathering because every card can be use for resources google it