Dr Kat and The Virgin Queen

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Reading the Past

Reading the Past

Күн бұрын

Why didn't Elizabeth I get married? There are a number of hypotheses and conspiracies related to this question; this video explores them.
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@elisabetta611
@elisabetta611 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth told Robert Dudley she'd never marry when she was EIGHT. The age she was when poor Catherine Howard, the young bubbly stepmother who showered her with treats and affection, was sent to the block by her father. Combine that with her sister and cousin's marriages going belly up and there's ENOUGH reasons there for her to never want to marry. The idea of her having a bastard is ludicrous as she was far too observed and spied upon for that to EVER have happened.
@MehWhatever99
@MehWhatever99 4 жыл бұрын
10 year old Elizabeth was known to be extremely intelligent, and was fluent and literate in multiple languages. The idea that a random village boy, who had a passing resemblance, could just take her place, is laughable. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@elizabethdony1228
@elizabethdony1228 4 жыл бұрын
That was my exact thought as the idea was mentioned in the video!
@MrAdryan1603
@MrAdryan1603 4 жыл бұрын
I watched an entire documentary about this specific myth/idea. It was compelling to a point, but mostly ridiculously laughable.. however entertaining. This documentary showed me how easily one can create or suggest evidence and gain an actual following of people who agree or believe, however outlandish or silly. I only mention this because I had never heard this theory before at the time (and was just beginning my [let's be honest and call it an obsession] with Queen Elizabeth I and queens throughout history) and I although I can't remember the exact documentary or its name, the creators were very convincing.. as convincing as one could be about such a notion. Still, so funny though. Cheers to both of you!
@hogwashmcturnip8930
@hogwashmcturnip8930 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrAdryan1603 The problem is these techniques are used by modern politicians and others. To us it is amusing, but not so much when you realise the implications. It is only too easy to make the average person believe whatever you want them to believe.
@leighsmith5930
@leighsmith5930 3 жыл бұрын
Great day....she witnessed her father's cruelty of women. She could of married a jerk in disguise and he could of had her done in. One of the bravest women to ever live. I admire her so much. I think she loved but I cannot blame her one bit and I'm so sorry she had to watch all her loved ones die. Thomas Seymore.....I'd like to see him in the coal mines. Traumatized, emotionally abused, surrounded by men who could never understand a great mind like Queen Elizabeth 1.
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrAdryan1603 Agreed, there's so many holes in this allegation it beggars belief. Even a preposterous theory can be made to seem plausible if the storyteller is convincing enough and reality sufficiently bent to support a narrative. Add a few outright lies that a number of gullible people will accept with few questions asked and you have a 'conspiracy'.
@GatewayAreaParanormal
@GatewayAreaParanormal 4 жыл бұрын
She was tired of men’s sh*t. She saw how disastrous it was for women around her and didn’t want that for herself.
@tc2334
@tc2334 4 жыл бұрын
That's my guess too.
@madiola1234
@madiola1234 4 жыл бұрын
or she was butch..
@My_kink_is_karma
@My_kink_is_karma 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly can’t say I blame her, she had a pretty traumatising upbringing
@ellencook1658
@ellencook1658 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care how nurturing a husband would be, childbirth killed the women around her when their husbands didn’t. Why marry, but to bear children?
@Luubelaar
@Luubelaar 3 жыл бұрын
@@ellencook1658 - and until the advent of antibiotics, the number 1 killer of women was childbirth. Either during or from infection in the post-partum period.
@bun04y
@bun04y 4 жыл бұрын
While I am sure that Elizabeth's childhood traumas were a huge influence, I believe the most convincing reason that she chose not to marry was that she did not want to give up her rule. Honestly, I believe that she was very smart in making this choice.
@joannedavis1991
@joannedavis1991 4 жыл бұрын
Craftybunny I agree. She had all the power, without the headache of marriage.
@Cappucosmic
@Cappucosmic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, all these strange theories, but as the saying goes, the most obvious answer is usually the correct one. Though also I think it's odd that they come up with stuff like 'she was a man!' and people love playing up the idea of her having tons of lovers she just wouldn't marry, but no one just says... Maybe she was asexual and didn't have an interest in it in the first place, anyway...
@--enyo--
@--enyo-- 4 жыл бұрын
That’s sort of what I figured. Back then marriage and having to go through pregnancy/childbirth would suck. But especially going from the most important, powerful person in court that everyone needs to pay attention to second place would be a huge step down. Especially after her childhood. I wouldn’t want to back down either.
@auntkaz422
@auntkaz422 4 жыл бұрын
I would agree. A queen as ruler instead of King was still a very new concept. I'm sure she knew it would always be a battle to keep her ultimate power over her country if she married, either foreign or domestically.
@lanorte1
@lanorte1 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. For the same reason, Queen Elizabeth II is married to Prince Phillip - not King Phillip.
@marylinolazagasti9715
@marylinolazagasti9715 4 жыл бұрын
I think we need to understand the world in which Elizabeth I lived at. It was a man’s world, females were only seen as objects that were only good to procreate and serve men. Having a female in a position of power was horrific for most people, including females. I think One of the reasons Elizabeth I didn’t marry was because by doing so, she would be overshadowed by her husband power wise and also she would have to face the challenges and dangers of motherhood.
@Tracifriday
@Tracifriday 4 жыл бұрын
YES YES YES!!!!! I AGREE TOTALLY!!!!!
@stevenleslie8557
@stevenleslie8557 4 жыл бұрын
I think there was more to it than that. Mary observed as a girl and later as a young woman just how dangerous the monarchy could be. She herself dodged a bullet when she was placed under arrest (or at least detention) for allegations of sedition. She knew that to marry would invite more trouble and intrigue into the Court. As long as she stalled her marriage (intentionally or not) she could keep those political forces who would destabilize her reign away from the levers of power. As an egnimatic personality she kept friend and foe guessing and off balance.
@janicemoore9797
@janicemoore9797 4 жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting theory. Absolutely that could be right.
@YT4Me57
@YT4Me57 4 жыл бұрын
I am in complete agreement with this opinion.
@jitaamesuluma9730
@jitaamesuluma9730 4 жыл бұрын
exactly , Elizabeth if she had married would have lost her power , she would never permit any man to have power over her especially after the history in her family , ie her father having her mother murdered on trumped up lies
@oklahomorose
@oklahomorose 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth's refusal to marry also gave her a great amount of power as long as she was of child-bearing years. Every eligible man in Europe was clamoring for her hand and she was able to play one against the other to her advantage.
@jallenecs
@jallenecs 4 жыл бұрын
Granted, Elizabeth had few good examples of married life in her youth. But I think she told us all what her actual position was when she said, "I will have one mistress here and no master! No man shall rule over me." It was political: Elizabeth would not share power.
@jasperhorace7147
@jasperhorace7147 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Besides, Elizabeth saw herself as a prince with the weak and feeble body of a woman.
@Rebelheart1985
@Rebelheart1985 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly that was pretty damn smart of her
@LazyDaisyDay88
@LazyDaisyDay88 3 жыл бұрын
What an excellent video. I love how you discuss the likely reality rather than the romance of history. Honestly, I think her whole life before she became Queen of England was just SO precarious. She could have been imprisoned or assassinated at any time and she knew it. Once Queen, why would she be in a hurry to hand over that power to a man, as her half-sister had done. "This is God's doing. And it is marvelous!" She was there by the Grace of God and decided to rule like her father. Whatever the faults of her reign, she was an amazing woman.
@orsino88
@orsino88 4 жыл бұрын
Henry's daughters were in an unusual position. While any number of European princesses might be shopped around for several years for an advantageous match (look at the girls' own aunt, Anne of Cleves), Mary and Elizabeth had very questionable status--were they legitimate or not? Once they were free of father and brother, they, particularly Mary, were getting a little old to marry. The consequences for Mary we see--she made her own choice, but he did not care for her; his status in England was debatable; she was too old to conceive. Elizabeth, again, might have made her own choice, but marriage would have been distasteful to her for numerous reasons. What does her childhood prove? That if you love a man, he kills you (Boleyn, Howard), threatens to kill you (Parr), shames or repudiates you (Aragon, Cleves), or you die in childbirth (Seymour). Even if he's a wonderful man, what is his rank? Does he rule, reign, advise? Does he get to practice his own religion, or not? See Victoria's reign for several rounds of awkwardness about a Prince Consort's role (Anne's husband was amazingly compliant). For all those reasons, marriage would have seemed the worst choice. She wasn't uninterested in sex and male beauty--but marriage? No.
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. You pretty much nailed it. It's a wonder so many people adhere to theories about Elizabeth's reluctance to marry that resort to unusual circumstances, when there were numerous mundane reasons for her to avoid a union. Plenty of contemporary examples why she shouldn't have.
@neko2412neko
@neko2412neko 4 жыл бұрын
I think also the risk of childbirth was throwing her off... She lost 2 step-mothers and for sure even more women around her due to this issue... I really wonder what she had in mind regarding what will happen to the throne after her death and being the last Tudor... She must have a lot of thoughts about it...
@alanfarrant2897
@alanfarrant2897 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeths well attested intelligence was the reason she had no intention of marrying. Her tutor Robert Ascham declared there "were not four men in the realm who could best her". She used her formidable intelligence to avoid the pitfalls of marriage in a terrifying age for women
@joansmith3296
@joansmith3296 4 жыл бұрын
Surrounded by ladies-in-waiting her whole life its highly unlikely that if Elizabeth didn't menstruate every month somebody would have said SOMETHING about it. Personally I think Elizabeth wanted to keep every ounce of power she had. She loved Dudley but even he was ambitious and she knew it. And secondary to all this the deaths, natural or otherwiswe made her very wary of the institution of marriage. Bu was she a virgin? Doubtful. I think Dudley relieved her of that. Ans she loved him to the end. She kept his last letter to her by her bedside til she died. I think she and Dudley had a great love affair that lasted for years.She was probably and luckily, barren.
@Nana-vi4rd
@Nana-vi4rd 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Elizabeth the first never married for many reasons all very good ones as well. First, look at her childhood, the killing of her mother, the death of Queen Jane, the death of Katherine Howard, these would have left a lasting impression on the child. Then the nightmare of her stepmother's husband, Thomas Seymour, I personally know what that is like having lived through it myself. Then the business with her brother, her sister.....not so much them, but those close to them who feared her as a replacement ruler. She pretty much had to do battle of the wits through those years. And of course all the reason you mentioned but one other one as well. She knew all too well that if she married she would not know if it was because he loved her or the crown was what he wanted. In a royal court that was the utmost on everyone's mind.....POWER. I think she was right in refusing to marry, she had more than enough to deal with just ruling England. But to have to deal with a husband and possibly facing death because she had gotten pregnant would have too much indeed for any woman to deal with in those days.
@williamammerman8862
@williamammerman8862 4 жыл бұрын
All true as well as how she saw Mary Queen of Scots and her marriages.
@blondbraid7986
@blondbraid7986 4 жыл бұрын
As a Swede, I can say she really dodged a bullet with rejecting Eric XIV. He became mad, and ended up being poisoned by his own brother, Johan III, and it says a lot when the guy who had his own brother killed was the sanest person in their family.
@desertflower9858
@desertflower9858 4 жыл бұрын
She was shown, first hand, how destabilizing marriage was. That’s all she knew of marriage. Why would she want that? As Queen, she was the only woman around who could choose not to marry.
@chow-der
@chow-der 4 жыл бұрын
as a child of divorced parents/ abusive parents it has affected me into not being able to have simple friendships , I am sure that Elizabeth's childhood traumas were a huge influence like it is with me
@lemongrabloids3103
@lemongrabloids3103 4 жыл бұрын
She wasn’t prepared to give away her power and control. Props to her ♥️
@susanorr8348
@susanorr8348 4 жыл бұрын
I also think that queen Elizabeth 1 did not want to share her power-she was both “king and queen.”
@amywebb4586
@amywebb4586 3 жыл бұрын
I think the trauma of her childhood, added to the fact that her status was changed so much with being legitimate then illegitimate, the emotional trauma her sister Mary inflicted during her short reign, then being told that as a woman she needed a husband to "help" her rule, Elizabeth just decided that enough was enough and she would show everybody that a woman could and would be in charge of her own life and destiny. Which is something I always admired about her.
@katherinek2709
@katherinek2709 4 жыл бұрын
All of the Elizabeth wasn't a real woman theories are hilariously convoluted at best, sexist at worst
@merisav4171
@merisav4171 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, like "oh, she was a great queen? she must be a man"
@mariealainawalukas3048
@mariealainawalukas3048 4 жыл бұрын
Katherine K I know....right? Total woman hater BS!
@Chief2Moon
@Chief2Moon 4 жыл бұрын
Katherine K I remember reading years ago that she had "hermaphroditic genitals" but in no way do I present it as fact, obviously it's something I wasn't privy to personally. I've read she had her suitors but have never seen journals by any of them.
@Chief2Moon
@Chief2Moon 4 жыл бұрын
Katherine K I might add her father gave her little reason to trust men
@MsKK909
@MsKK909 4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure I read that when her council was desperately trying to marry her off so there could be an heir to continue the Tudor line, they got constant reports on her menstrual periods from her ladies in waiting, maids, and laundresses. They needed to know that she was at least exhibiting the outward signs of fertility as they were basically negotiating matters of state based on her ability to produce an heir! It’s repugnant to a modern woman’s sensibilities that all these people would know the timing of her bodily functions, and that matters of state could be directed by them, but there it is..... it was a different world.
@stevedillinger3887
@stevedillinger3887 4 жыл бұрын
I think for the upbringing that she had (being constantly subjected to other peoples' will) could also have had a lot to do with a determination to maintain her position as the ruler - and not the ruled. A husband, especially a foreign monarch, would have taken a lot of the control that she had fought hard to gain. I don't mean just political power but also the level of control she had of her own fate, even in day to day living. Keeping herself insulated from the immediate demands of a husband seem like a good reason, especially when you consider the lives of women in that period.
@danaegore3815
@danaegore3815 4 жыл бұрын
I like your last theory. I always leaned more on her being afraid of marriage due to her childhood experiences, sexual abuse, and not having authority over her own life.
@TheStipple
@TheStipple 4 жыл бұрын
Although I've always enjoyed the conspiracy theory about Elizabeth being a substituted boy as improbable as it is, your gentle debunking is the most sensible I've ever heard. I've always thought Elizabeth was too strong to hand over her self control and kingdom to a husband. This is a brilliant analysis.
@kelliebom1
@kelliebom1 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos! I'm on a QUARANTINE QUEEN obsession and Dr. Kat is the expert!
@MrAdryan1603
@MrAdryan1603 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@amyh6936
@amyh6936 4 жыл бұрын
Not having children was probably a huge motivation for Elizabeth to avoid marriage. So many women in her life/ family, and women in general at that time, died because of childbirth and pregnancy (and from producing female children when the pressure was on for a male heir). No wonder she gave the whole thing a miss.
@mesamies123
@mesamies123 4 жыл бұрын
Your words, Dr. Kat, about Elizabeth I's not marrying move me deeply. All of the possibilities that you mention seem fully plausible-- fully accurate. If the young Elizabeth had been molested by that man, she would have been traumatized by the idea of sex and sexuality all her life long. How could she possibly have worked through that abuse emotionally at that time? Impossible. She loved Dudley, but she could not have him for so many reasons. A foreign match of any kind was simply out of the question. Horrifically, virtually every example of marriage that she saw before her was beyond unbearable. Both choice and circumstance seem to leave Elizabeth with only one option: to remain unmarried in a patriarchal universe that expects and demands that she follow so-called womanly duties: please a man and reproduce. The Queen, however, had to be a King or a Prince, if one will, just to survive, and this Queen-King/Prince (I am thinking of her 'Speech to the Troops at Tilbury') with such a traumatic history is not going to marry another King and further traumatize herself and, very possibly if not likely, lose both her kingdom and her life.
@xwiirastusx
@xwiirastusx 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a balm to the spirit of an Anglophile. As to the matter of Good Queen Bess, I think you pretty much covered it all. I can only speculate that she suffered of something akin to extreme anxiety disorder as we would call it today.
@frazzledmoonpie
@frazzledmoonpie 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this thorough analysis! It goads me that a common conception of why she never married is that it must be something pathological, that it couldn't have been something she reasoned out and decided was in her best interest. Your explanations do a phenomenal job of demonstrating what a big deal her choice was and how complex her reasoning may have been. I really enjoyed it!
@roseherman193
@roseherman193 4 жыл бұрын
She was an intelligent and wordly woman who had already discovered what men were capable of before coming to the throne of England, and by doing so and in her position and taking into consideration the types she was surrounded by, chose her country above her own desire to procreate or marry. I would also add that she was in fear of dying at child birth knowing the track record of other woman she was surrounded by. You only have to look at the life of our own Queen today to understand the pressures having a husband could put upon her , fortunately for our Queen , she went into her marriage to Philip believing that he and her would have a life together with their kids long before she would ascend to the throne .OR SO SHE THOUGHT !!!
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and synopsis of the various possibilities why Elizabeth I refused marriage, real or otherwise. I'm becoming very weary of the 'Bisley boy' allegation and glad you stomped it without giving it a second's thought. It's incredible how many people give credence to it. The close relationships Elizabeth developed with her favorites should alone dismiss it. How could they not have been aware? What about Dudley who knew her since she was a child? Didn't he notice and if he did why did he foster the relationship? People don't stop and think for a moment that such a monumental charade could not have succeeded for over half a century without a single individual noticing something was off, or some mention of it by courtiers, palace staff, ambassadors, nobles, advisors, etc. Maybe proponents of this theory don't realize how many people attended a monarch in that era each and every day. It's preposterous on the face of it, yet it endures to this day.
@j.svensson7652
@j.svensson7652 2 жыл бұрын
I think she was her father's daughter in the desire for absolute power. Had she married, her power would have been lessened or even extinguished by her husband. She could have dalliance behind closed doors and never once give up her power to a male. She put on the mask of the virgin queen and it served her well. I think her father soured her on the idea of "kings" and marriage. She was a smart cookie.
@patriciajjacko2036
@patriciajjacko2036 4 жыл бұрын
There is also the possibility that, should she marry and have a son, her husband would rule in her stead and she would lose her throne in this way. Thats what ultimately happened to Mary Queen of Scots. She had a son so she was now no longer needed. The fact that she made it easy by marrying Bothwell is just an aside. Elizabeth always said there is one mistress here and no master. If Elizabeth married, that would no longer be the case. If she had a son, Elizabeth was no longer needed.
@MsLogjam
@MsLogjam 4 жыл бұрын
Mary should have supported her son's claim to the throne instead of trying to take it away from him. She spent way too much time with Catherine de Medici.
@kamion53
@kamion53 4 жыл бұрын
How deeply was the concept of Jure Uxoris, King by marriage institutionalised in England? I know it was in Spain where Philips the Fair became king by marriage. Mary needed a strong alley and made Philips of Spain king of England, but was it automatic? Could Elisabeth not just have married and promoted her husband no further then Prince Consort?
@nordlys3432
@nordlys3432 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guide in the States Musems, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany. One of our Dukes, Adolf of Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorf (1526 - 86), brother of the Danish king Christian III, ( here we live in the northern part of Germany, which changed from being Danish to German and reverse during the centuries ) asked Elisabeth to marry him. He got no, but a lifelong pension and the Order of the Garter. We learned that the queen as the head of the Church of England wanted to be similar to the Virgin Mary, so she chose not to be married. That's what I tell the museum visitors.
@tricivenola8164
@tricivenola8164 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for this. I believe from all that I've read and viewed that Elizabeth was simply too shrewd to tie herself to any royal marriage. As a single "virgin" queen she was a free agent.
@lizl6232
@lizl6232 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I believe it had to do with upbringing, choices, and ruling on her own.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth was a smart woman, and from this video it seems that there was a combination of factors that weighed against her marrying and not enough compelling reasons why she should marry. Too much to lose and not enough to gain. I think that from a relatively early age she made the decision to remain unmarried and she stuck to it. As a single person myself, I understand that.
@NeoDarkling
@NeoDarkling 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a child Elizabeth was extremely intelligent and I'm sure that having seen what befell all the queens surrounding her during her upbringing, she saw both marriage and childbirth as threats to her life and crown. She had somehow survived all the seemingly insurmountable obstacles between her and the throne and, I think, wisely decided to avoid marriage altogether.
@mightymissk
@mightymissk 3 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth spent the first 25 years of her life at the mercy of other people, subject always to suspicion and political forces beyond her control. When she became Queen, Elizabeth was at last free. How glorious it must have been for her to finally be in charge of her own destiny! I think Elizabeth knew the moment she married she would lose all control over her existence once again. So she resolved never to marry. Also, although she was genuinely fond of many men and LOVED male attention, the only man Elizabeth ever really loved enough to make her contemplate marriage was Robert Dudley. But she could not marry her Sweet Robin and keep her throne. That was the hard truth of the matter. I always feel like Elizabeth saw things the way they really were-not how she would like them to be, and that insight served her well. If she wanted to be the Mistress and have no Master then she could never marry, and that is why she decided to reign alone for 45 years. What a woman.
@alicemorton9145
@alicemorton9145 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Seymour possibly had his way with poor Elizabeth and yes her status and England up for disaster had her virginity been destroyed ! Thank you for sharing Dr Kat🤩
@Chief2Moon
@Chief2Moon 4 жыл бұрын
Alison Stephenson I remember biology classes& come from a family with 5 generations of Dr's& nurses. It's long been my understanding that the absence of a Hyman isn't necessarily indicative of the "loss of virginity" (Although its presence is certainly considered "a tamperproof seal" still intact) it seems to me that the average man is in no position to simply infer one way or the other as to whether a gal was a virgin based solely on the existence of a Hyman.
@Chief2Moon
@Chief2Moon 4 жыл бұрын
Alison Stephenson PS, I don't at all discount the possibility of molestation at the hands of Seymour, and also imagine that some aspects of feminine physiology were still in the dark ages & that the hymen was considered a like a "notary's seal on a document". Maybe too, both Henry&Seymour's behavior towards women convinced her not to be subservient. I don't know...Coronavirus avoidance made me watch a Utube video&comment.🤗
@frahn1702
@frahn1702 4 жыл бұрын
Dallas DautermanDallas That’s right, but they placed great store by an intact hymen in those days.
@charlesbaggett3132
@charlesbaggett3132 4 жыл бұрын
I feel strongly that that Queen feared the power a husband would have had over her. Her mother was murdered by her husband the King. Charles in Florida USA
@Kayla-dm8nr
@Kayla-dm8nr 4 жыл бұрын
I love her energy. She also has the sweetest and inviting face. Makes me want to go to her house for some warm cookies & a nap.
@rebeccacamden1644
@rebeccacamden1644 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're right about Elizabeth not being a virgin and was afraid that everybody would think that she was a loose women. And maybe she would lose her crown, and why should share it. After all she had gone through hell to be crowned. 👍
@DavidMacDowellBlue
@DavidMacDowellBlue 4 жыл бұрын
There is, I am convinced, a taint of misogyny in so many theories about Elizabeth I. Partially the unwillingness to believe a female monarch can be an impressive as she was, coupled with a reluctance to admit she might be a healthy woman who did not want to marry a man. Hence the convoluted theories about her physical health, about her gender, etc. Me, I think you break it down very well. For obvious personal reasons she would be reluctant to marry. Likewise there wasn't really an appropriate match (although she evidently desired to marry her "Frog" i.e. the brother of the French King, in middle age) coupled with stone-cold assessment of what marriage could mean for herself and her reign. Likewise she had a policy of waiting, putting things off, not rushing in. This showed in her approach to marriage as well as everything else. I suspect she was very reluctant to wed, but willing enough had the exactly right candidate appeared on the stage--which ultimately never happened. Were she not a virgin, which is of course perfectly possible, then the very issues you bring up would be a legitimate point (although frankly lots of women break their hymens in all sorts of ways long before they have sex--my own mother did so horse back riding). You didn't mention another theory I"ve heard put forth, namely that she was a lesbian. While not impossible, it seems strange then the rumor seems to have never cropped up during her lifetime. Or didn't as far as I know. My impression was that all her close favorites were men, and while various ladies were close to the Queen none seemed to behave in the way such royal paramours often do. As far as I am aware, and by this point surely someone would have mentioned this and gone on about it ad nauseum. Mind you, the concept of "homosexuality" as such did not exist in her lifetime, not as we understand it. Perhaps also some would assume that such a powerful, willful woman if she were gay would of necessity be "butch" which is not at all the case. BTW I really enjoyed your review of "MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS" and wonder what you thought of "THE FAVOURITE" as well as your reaction to the upcoming Catherine the Great series "THE GREAT"?
@marieduran6286
@marieduran6286 4 жыл бұрын
You are creating a wonderful series, I appreciate the work you put in researching your topic. As for Elizabeth 1 not getting married, I can see were you think it would be highly doubtful that she is really a man, but being a virgin I don't think she was either. I can agree that there might have been evidence that she was not a virgin and had a child if they did an autopsy on her. That is why she didn't want one. To me she is acting like someone who has been abused, and goodness, I hope she didn't get pregnant from that. Even though it is far fetched, the possibility is there.
@popcult
@popcult 4 жыл бұрын
Dr Cat’s ability to give a clear full summary of historical figures and events is outstanding.
@Liz66bee
@Liz66bee 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your channel Dr Kat and have been binge watching, it reminds me of the seminars back at uni 25 years ago now! I think many of those theories hold water, aside from the Bisley boy, the illigitimate baby and Trans gender Elizabeth! Yes - someone would have noticed! I also don't think she would have been old enough to be very aware of her own mother's death, as I understand Anne Boleyn didn't see much of her little daughter, as the child had her own household as a todler. I think Elizabeth watched everything, she was incredibly intelligent and shrewd, a bit of a 'tough coookie', I don't think she would ever have let her heart rule her head, although undeniably she did love Dudley. Your first analysis about her choice of suiters is a great and one I didn't know about, and yes - it makes perfect sense that was a big part of her not wanting to marry. PS - would love to see a video about that 'scandalous' Lord you mentioned in your Aphra Behn talk!
@flyingdutchwoman
@flyingdutchwoman 4 жыл бұрын
firstly elizabeth was a strong woman...secondly being a queen or king is a political environment in which all decisions are for political advantage..for her it was more advantageous to stay unmarried and parley with thoes looking for political advantages through marriage with a queen...but staying single she keeps the advantage in having the control politicaly. It doesn't help that it was dangerous to give birth in thoes days ....I feel this was more of a political choice rather than a personal one.
@GullibleTarget
@GullibleTarget 4 жыл бұрын
@Tigers Wood she was a strong woman!
@alagorical8001
@alagorical8001 4 жыл бұрын
"Or a 5 o'clock shadow'' :D Brilliant!
@ReadingthePast
@ReadingthePast 4 жыл бұрын
😉
@cambriavictory
@cambriavictory 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth was wickedly smart and was no fool. She made a decision and she was set on it. The Queen was continually harassed by her advisors, but to no avail. Elizabeth was smarter than them all. She knew how much she had to loose and had seen others loose it disastrously. A marriage was just one step on a slippery slope that she wasn't prepared to take.
@dominiquedeangelo2616
@dominiquedeangelo2616 4 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled over these and absolutely find them fascinating. You keep the interest in the video viewer and the historical stories are very interesting. Thank you.
@elainederosa9200
@elainederosa9200 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I love this discussion and all of your other videos. You are so insightful! What a comprehensive list of possibilities you present here, all great explanations of why she didn't marry. Fear of losing her power to rule, more than losing her life, I think, was her main reason. What I truly admire was her ability to dodge all efforts and arguments by her people and her closest advisors to persuade her, and really heavily pressure her, to do otherwise. She was a very strong individual.
@luizaali1612
@luizaali1612 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Kat! I am delighted to hear your wonderful stories about the Tudors. I believe Elizabeth never married because she was unable to trust man, after realising what her mother went through. All the best and keep yourself safe.
@pagey1950
@pagey1950 4 жыл бұрын
This all makes complete sense. Very interesting and well-researched. Our teachers killed any interest in history in the "good old days".
@lyndasnart7823
@lyndasnart7823 4 жыл бұрын
dkdjpage so so true back in the day 🤨
@susannebrown3255
@susannebrown3255 4 жыл бұрын
I think that it’s a little bit of all the points you brought up.❤️😘
@glorialange6446
@glorialange6446 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the times it was suggested that she should have married Edward Courtenay ... He is usually mentioned as weak, mentally unstable, and power hungry. He had already been spoken of as a possible candidate for marriage with Mary I before her marriage to Phillip, and suggested a couple of times for Elizabeth.. He did have some smaller claim to the English throne, and was said to be not unattractive. But the man seems to also have been arrogant and not very bright, many of his personality traits not very desirable in a King Consort. I fully believe that no matter what else was happening or who was part of her dreams and desires, the Queen inside of her knew and acknowledged that there was no way to be a Queen regnant and married, too, without risking the independence of thought and action that she was accustomed to. I think it is valid that strong men she was attracted to would have also been at loggerheads with her and against her if she shared or gave up her power in order to marry. I think that was her ultimate thought on the matter, even though no children, and no permanent partner was the cost. I also believe she was quite sure she would never have a faithful and true lover who would not betray her and to her as woman, and as Queen, that was just unacceptable.
@Tara_Norris
@Tara_Norris 4 жыл бұрын
It might be because of my interest in how early childhood trauma and events shape a person, I think that you’ve hit the nail on the head there with Queen Elizabeth l having witnessed / been exposed to so many bad experiences of people in her life that were all extremely close to her. I think one of those things would stick let alone all of them. Perhaps Elizabeth was an observer and she was able to completely change “the norm”. Her families line would have followed in king James 1st / 6th. It’s interesting to me. I have always thought Anne Boleyn and Elizabeth were very ahead of their time. Perhaps if the Tudor family of the 15th century were to land in our world Anne and Elizabeth would be the least shocked.
@jimmmmy41
@jimmmmy41 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished Dame Edith Sitwell's, The Queens and the Hive, about Elizabeth I's reign. A great read, with many epistolary contributions. Sitwell used excerpts of the letters of many contemporaries surrounding the important events of the time to great effect. One of the standouts was Lady Lennox, Lord Darnley's formidable mother. The episode of the Earl of Essex at the later part of her life really troubled her. I held off reading of her death, because I knew how difficult the days leading up to it were, and I didn't want to let her go. I think she was haunted, and had nightmares. She was truly extraordinary.
@justanothernicole
@justanothernicole 4 жыл бұрын
One year late, but I'm in love with your channel!
@karatyson8234
@karatyson8234 4 жыл бұрын
I do think there is some merit that the relationship with Seymour went further. Catherine Parr has her removed to a location where trusted people make sure access to her is controlled. I don't think it is a coincidence. If she loved her country, which she did, she would have felt obligated to continue the dynasty. Not just to keep off Scottish rule but also to keep the leftover Plantagenets at bay.
@patriciaanderson8556
@patriciaanderson8556 4 жыл бұрын
I myself think that she looked at the disastrous family she came from and the damage they had created to their own wives, children and the country and didn't want to add to it. She had an heir in James, her cousins son, so she wasn't going to leave her country without a King. Her father was a murderous monster, no matter how you look at it. Her sister had killed her thousands trying to drag the country back to Catholicism. If she did love Dudley and couldn't marry the man she did love, she would have to submit to someone she might not really care for. I think she just simply didn't think it was worth the personal pain to herself. The possible lack of virginity could have been dealt with, with sworn doctors affidavits and payoffs, if she really wanted to deal with it. It doesn't really seem like it would be too hard to have beheaded someone that would later claim it was all a lie. She had plenty of people executed for lots of reasons, I don't think she would have quibbled over this as a reason. She did a good job, and steered England in some hard times and kept England, England.
@dolphineachonga812
@dolphineachonga812 4 жыл бұрын
Her desicion proved to be wise in the end. I think it's a tricky balance for any leader to comfortably marry political leadership with marriage and children.
@jefflea9239
@jefflea9239 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Kat, thanks for these lectures on KZbin. I studied history in college and have always enjoyed it as a past-time and your lectures are wonderful to listen to as well. I didn't wind up becoming a historian, which was my undergraduate dream, but have spent these last many years in special education in stead. Thanks for brightening my evenings with your work!
@melaniedavis5066
@melaniedavis5066 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy I found these videos. I love history and Dr. Kat does a great job.
@MaesterTori
@MaesterTori 2 жыл бұрын
I think in addition to any personal disinclination owing to childhood trauma, that there was just no politically safe match for her. I think she did nearly waver on Dudley after Amy's death, but ultimately his unpopularity was just too risky. It would have been the same with any foreign or domestic match in the end and she was too canny to risk her own power but also the well being and good will of her people. I think she was quoted as saying that the people had a right to an opinion in the spouse of their monarch. Ultimately, Elizabeth put her political body ahead if her personal body, as she was wont to do.
@candicebrown3880
@candicebrown3880 4 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here - just wanted to drop a note to say I’ve adored watching your videos! Your insights are great, and I love the way you express your points so effortlessly. You are an excellent speaker!
@tanyagarcia3721
@tanyagarcia3721 4 жыл бұрын
I like those book cases behind you. It gives me an idea for what I would like in my house
@MarionBrandsen6204
@MarionBrandsen6204 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel this week, love it. I am from Holland but obsessed with the Tudors, read many books about them . I probably know more about them than about our own royals.
@irrelevantnews3083
@irrelevantnews3083 4 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel a few days ago and I'm so glad I did. You truly make me feel very welcome 💕
@mairincampbell4506
@mairincampbell4506 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much her father’s treatment of his Queens, including her own mother, may have set her on a course of independence. The refusal to marry (if that was what it came down to) was a redemptive gesture for all those women?
@rklong1790
@rklong1790 4 жыл бұрын
Keeping power in her control is certainly a major part of it. More subtly, she watched her family and courtiers play the marriage game. When ever Henry VIII wanted a war and needed backing, he offered up one of his daughters to seal the deal. Mary drew dangerous political lines with many other courts and her own country by locking in her choice of Phillip. If a potential rival in war thinks they can marry the conflict out rather than fight a costly war, Elizabeth could politically maneuver in a way her sister couldn't.
@aerden2
@aerden2 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video! I enjoyed it very much. Supposedly, Elizabbeth told Robert Dudley when they were both being held in the Tower that she intended to never marry and had held that opinion since age 8, which would be consistent with Katherine Howard's death. I suspect she equated marriage to a powerful man with death and, once she became queen, wanted no man to have power over her.
@jamaicamango6019
@jamaicamango6019 4 жыл бұрын
So glad I found your channel. Sick of cable tv
@MsMaya8888
@MsMaya8888 4 жыл бұрын
Love Dr. Kat and the themes she explores. Very unique presentations.
@jnicholas-windsoramyisrael46
@jnicholas-windsoramyisrael46 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ma'am for these great videos. I'm working my through everyone of them 😊🇬🇧. I actually thought I know my Royal history until I started watching your videos lol then realised I've missed out on some parts.
@m.e.c.1007
@m.e.c.1007 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the US and am enjoying learning about British royalty and how the country worked/works. Thank you for such simple but interesting insight. New subscriber
@lynnedelacy2841
@lynnedelacy2841 4 жыл бұрын
Loving your videos - and it takes me just as long to read the interesting comments
@historyfreak6591
@historyfreak6591 4 жыл бұрын
the most plausible explanations to me are either that she didn't want to risk her rule by marrying and that witnessing the disastrous marriages around her probably turned her off of it. I also find it hard to believe that she had a bastard child with Robert Dudley or throught the sexual abuse of Thomas Seymour simply because, as is said many times, people were always watching her and it would have been recorded, especially if she did have a son. Even though in her childhood she was sent away and known as the late king's illegitimate daughter, she still would have been a somewhat high status individual and the birth of a child would have been noted by someone.
@catw2425
@catw2425 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Kat I have just finished watching your June 21,2019 video The Virgin Queen. As with all of your videos, I enjoyed it throughly. As to the question regarding Queen Elizabeth, and her decision not to marry. I believe her reasons were several, and well founded.
@bcfairlie1
@bcfairlie1 4 жыл бұрын
Loving your work Dr Kat. I really enjoy this channel
@Known-unknowns
@Known-unknowns 4 жыл бұрын
I think your analyses of the trauma she experienced as a child is spot on. Her father killing her mother would have been remembered. A clear message deep in her subconscious Marriage ~ Death . Let me give you a personal account. When I was 4 years of age my mother left me with my Grandparents whilst she went to work. They fought like cat and dog. I’m 62 and have never married.
@ianlord7912
@ianlord7912 4 жыл бұрын
Your accounts of these royal monarchs are very entertaining. You are an avid story teller.. Looking forward to hearing more.. 😊
@jamminjoy
@jamminjoy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so, so much, Dr. Kat. It is a pleasure to hear historical knowledge combined with logic and common sense applied to the contemporaneous gossip of the day as well as to subsequent irresponsible speculation about historical figures. Refreshing!! Your work helps us ground ourselves more firmly in what was more likely to be the objective reality of the day.
@jamminjoy
@jamminjoy 2 жыл бұрын
And let's call the "Maybe Elizabeth 1 was a man" trope exactly what it was and is: Infuriatingly misogynistic!
@libra7seven988
@libra7seven988 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE history AND your channel!!!! New subbie here 🥰
@GTMemes2
@GTMemes2 2 жыл бұрын
Ive watched 1000s of history docs from 100s or 1000 of presenters/up loaders your posts are awesome You do a real good job Kudos Thank you Subscribed
@stacykorhely1929
@stacykorhely1929 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I just found the channel and loving getting caught up ! This is an awesome channel !
@ReadingthePast
@ReadingthePast 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so pleased you are enjoying the channel, thank you very much ☺️
@gladams55
@gladams55 4 жыл бұрын
I found your channel a few months ago and I love your style. I detect a fondness for the Tudors and am enjoying your insights. I always felt that Elizabeth was cautious because of what she saw growing up. Women of the period didn’t have many rights and once she became Queen why would you want to be subservient ever again to anyone. I’d like to hear more about her relationship with her siblings and why she didn’t allow other women at court such as Amy Dudley. She obviously wanted to be the center of all things. I hope you enjoy hearing our comments and that by exploring our history we can gain insights about ourselves.
@hasnaashaalan9083
@hasnaashaalan9083 4 жыл бұрын
What is different, and also what I like, about your perspective on those historical figures is how you view them as people. You try to interrupt and understand their behaviour and hence their actions. This understanding can lead us to judge whether whichever historical theory or rumour we're being fed is logical or not. I hope history is taught like that in schools.
@kimsmith3584
@kimsmith3584 4 жыл бұрын
This is the 3rd video I’ve watched and I’ve subscribed. I love how you talk about history. Always loved our past ❤️
@sh236
@sh236 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your videos and am really enjoying them. Cheers.
@johannesbrahms7414
@johannesbrahms7414 2 жыл бұрын
I have commented yo you on other videos, that yoy are formidably, sharply, deeply intelligent intelligent! Your mode researching complex difficult "mysteries", particularly this one, is formidably designed and managed. What makes these so good is that you consider and slowly, diligently, so many other factors, and all their consequences, and then, weigh them all most maturely! Now, this is only my "Exordium"! I have heard many times these "theories" on Queen Elizabeth I's persistent unmarried status. I was decidely unsastisfied with all! However, the renditions, which I heard, sounded to me, cheap and vulgar, with the spice, which Americans call "sassiness". There is a point you made, Dr. Kat, that immediately struck me, instantly, as carrying, true weight, perhaps, even more so than other factors: European monarchs, neverwere allowed to have privacy!! Menstrual issues were to be reported to the King and, I ima- gine, the Privy Counsil, even! Birthing was worse. A Queen was compelled to expose herself, so that the Royal Family and all other "power entities" could be, 100%, "sure" that the Baby was indeed a possible heir to the Crown----DIS GUSTING!!!! This is not only, true, but "de rigueur" universally and for a few centuries more. I do not even know, whether this practice con-tinues today! This practice, de facto, nullifies all the other "juicy" theories! However, the theory you first pre- sented is, truly, most plausible: Queen Elizabeth I's possibly, daily beholding of a "satyr" of a man, in addition to, possibly, being molested herself, would certainly "have done it"! No one has ever, or will ever like to be sexually abused! In addition, her hearing, the inevi- table: Most unpleasant stories of humiliating and emotionslly-wrecking Royal sepa- rationd and annulments, together with rumors of assassinated Queens, as well as, abusive, in all sorts of ways, Royal Grooms, etc., would, certainly, have led her to saying: "I am 'taking the bull by the horns' "! I am not permitting such a life of misery, fear, and humiliation to befall me. This is not God-ordained for any woman! My primary duty is to serve my subjects---- I cannot do so, unless I HAVE ---- PEACE!!!! I am inclined to opine that this is, simply, the healthy cause of her---- healthy choices! We cannot see and, feel, from our position in time, the toxic, poisonous, intensity in the Atmo- sphere of the gas of---- Sexism!!!!
@donnaterry7326
@donnaterry7326 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Im so glad i found your video. I was watching Clair Ridgeway. But you are so much more informative and more intertaining. B)
@vandatomasik3780
@vandatomasik3780 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are quite addictive!!
@evamaria6720
@evamaria6720 4 жыл бұрын
Historic knowledge paired with common sense! Thank you, dr.kat!
@MountainPearls
@MountainPearls 4 жыл бұрын
I hate the Bailey Boy thing. I think, like so many men, misogynists-even in the Edwardian period still couldn’t stand the idea what a woman couldn’t be that powerful and successful. I also think she suffered at the hands of men from the time she was 2 years old and was done with it all and knew there were other options as to heirs. Both James and Arbella Stuart.
@dollinterrupted
@dollinterrupted Жыл бұрын
I get the impression she may have been yes psychologically traumatized from probably being SAed as a kid by her uncle but it can’t be understated how much physical trauma that may have caused her. It is not uncommon for young SA victims to be physiologically unable to carry children as adults or even have intercourse in some cases from the physical trauma.
@hpyles30241
@hpyles30241 4 жыл бұрын
I may have missed a video or something but i like so many others am fascinated with British history and of course Henry the 8th and his wives. I love your videos. I've heard a lot about how mary felt about her mother and her struggles with what happened to them. But is there much information about how Elizabeth felt about her mother? I know she paid homage to her in little ways. The B necklace and things. But any inner thoughts about was she angry at her dad the king? Did she make peace with what was done etc... Just little things I've wondered about. Thanks and keep up your amazing videos.
@sallyknopp
@sallyknopp 3 жыл бұрын
I think E had a very strong fear of dying and childbirth terrified her. And I feel she didn't want to risk losing any control. Not to mention, you made an excellent point her dating pool was severely lacking. If you were in her shoes, what would you choose with the choices give?
@MsKK909
@MsKK909 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure that the condition of testicular feminization will result in cancer if the testicles are not surgically removed. Basically, it is a death sentence if it goes untreated.. I have a friend who is a gynecological endocrinologist and during his specialty training in LA, there was a famous movie star...a preteen at the time...who had the condition and so had the surgery to save her life. So if QEI had the condition, I doubt she would have made it to her 30th birthday, if that. I think it is far more likely that her reasons were psychological, as you laid out. Love this channel ❤️
@elizabethjansen2684
@elizabethjansen2684 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thanks for the information!
@MsKK909
@MsKK909 4 жыл бұрын
@ Elizabeth Jansen Usually, the first indication that something is amiss is the lack of menstruation, so the condition is discovered and the surgery is performed in the patient’s teens. This condition renders the patient sterile as the needed structures are not present. The really weird thing about the condition is that the “girl” usually has a smoking hot body...very little body fat, like a male, but very pronounced breasts! These two things simply don’t go together naturally... estrogen produces the classic feminine, curvy, subcutaneous fat pads as the breasts develop. Usually, some kind of plastic surgery must be performed to achieve that look... either breast augmentation or liposuction, because the two states are complete opposites. DNA testing would reveal a Y chromosome, so the subject is technically male. There was a very sad incident where a Saudi prince brought his very young wife to UCLA medical center to be treated for infertility and the condition was discovered. The dangers were explained and instead of having the patient treated, they opted to take her back to the kingdom and let her die as it served the husband’s social and financial situation better to have a dead wife than one who would never bear sons or worse... admitting he married a male!
@elizabethjansen2684
@elizabethjansen2684 4 жыл бұрын
@@MsKK909 thank you for the information
@CS-gh3qh
@CS-gh3qh 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe she wanted to end the Tudor line to avenge her mother.
@donnasalas2264
@donnasalas2264 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with other comments that Elizabeth I had concerns about a husband wanting to be “the power behind the throne “. Later in history, Prince Albert struggled with being “second “ to Queen Victoria and the same kind of struggles continued with Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth II.
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