Light Phone 3 First Look

[@reagantrose]

What do you think? Would you get one of these? You can find more info about the Light Phone at this affiliate link: www.thelightphone.com/products?ref=reaganrose

[@shawnvegavelez121]

I would get one to limit my phone usage to the essentials. I'm loving the design.

[@F23463]

This might seem like a silly question, but is there any way to access Gmail? The reason I ask is that I'm really interested in the idea of detoxing, and this seems perfect. However, I usually use my phone to board the train, as the train manager scans a QR code for my ticket. Without the train app, that wouldn’t be possible. But if I could still access my emails, it would be perfect.

[@ElliottRants]

No, No i wouldn’t get one

[@connordevine7133]

My view on the process point: they are building this phone to be the last phone you’ll need. No need for yearly upgrades like all big techs out there. This company will not have the constant yearly revenue of people upgrading there phones year after year. So to me, the higher price point allows them to exists and service this phone further down the road.

[@thirrell]

Great view

[@reagantrose]

This is a great point.

[@MrcRao58]

True?

[@bravestarr19]

100 percent correct, everyone that is complaining about the price should read your comment. I bought this phone day 1, my phone plan is ridiculously cheap because I will have the light phone 3 and I won;t have to buy another phone for probably a decade plus. Those savings alone make the phone worth it. You are saving more money over the long term

[@suboctavebass]

It sounds perfect for what I want from a phone. It doesn't the things that make phones so addictive (color, unnecessary apps, personalization, notifications). I'm definitely going to pre-oder one

[@AcornFox]

Light phone not having a flashlight is so funny

[@Jesus2024-ey1kp]

I like the 3, if you are going to carry a tool it might as well be a multi tool. Tools don’t consume time which is why they chose the feature set of this phone. I’m looking forward to going simpler and hopefully there are people in this world that recognize the value in it also so I can talk to them because no one talks when they all have smart phones.

[@go-brogo]

Thanks for making content on this! I've been super interested in it in general, but it's even cooler to have a review from a brother!

[@adritrace88]

Price is a joke.

[@rube3k969]

Depends on your perspective. I do understand your point too. I would just say if it changes my life, makes me more present, productive, happier etc then that's money well spent for me.

[@buttercup5470]

Flag ship phones by leading manufactures start at $800 and can go for $1200. No one complains. The incremental “new” features they add to their phones doesn’t justify purchasing their phones. I’m willing to put my money down on the LP 3 it offers a quality tool that won’t soak up my time or sell my data.

[@Seminoso]

​@@buttercup5470so you're not paying more for more feature, but you're paying more for less features?

[@tanichiro]

​​@@buttercup5470still not worth $800, guaranteed it would cost no more than $150/unit to manufacture... the rest is purely marketing... most stuff does NOT cost anywhere near as much as half of the sale price to manufacture you can literally do the exact same thing with most of HMDs budget Nokias for 1/4 or even 1/5th of the price

[@MorganTheGorgon]

@@buttercup5470 People do complain… we complain all the time about phone prices these days. but the latest iPhone for the same price has a better camera, better screen, better software, better chipset, better almost-everything. You don’t need a nearly $1000 (after taxes) dumb phone to curb your screen addiction, dude. Just grab a quality dumb phone for like $75-100 and save the rest, you’ll get the same outcome. Put it towards some college classes or something, you’ll enrich your life way more than you would with this weird, overpriced “rich 20 year old with a screen addiction but doesn’t want to be seen with a dumb phone” device.

[@Ai-Mindwave]

…“live in the realm of distraction”.. took the words outta my brain. good feed man tks.

[@WhiteRavenSong]

Yep i have LPII but switched back to my iphone because of the sluggish interface and no camera. My main attraction to LPIII is security, camera and more responsive interface. I’ll probably buy the LPIII in January but we’ll see how the rollout issues develop.

[@WhiteRavenSong]

One thing i really missed from my iphone was a robust contact list and todo apps.

[@artsylady1747]

I'm excited for the new model. I will be ordering one. I tried light phone two and wasn't able to stick with it. It was a little hard to use. But there was still a lot I liked about it. This new version looks awesome. I can't wait to try it.

[@abbaschild2499]

I can see this. An ipad, and/or an ipad mini + Light Phone 3. That's all. That's enough. Great post. Thank you.

[@reagantrose]

Thanks for watching!

[@hdtravel1]

Dump that Apple iPad addiction buddy - get a Daylight DC-1 tablet

[@Jesus2024-ey1kp]

For me it will be iPad and lightphone 3. Perfect.

[@jameshjacksonjr]

@@hdtravel1maybe he wants the iPad we all should buy what we want and feels comfortable to us

[@industryandaudio]

I think it’s a great concept. I’ve know about the company for a while and got renewed to it when Kendrick released it with his label. It’s crazy to me that I can’t put down or not use my iPhone. Highly considering this but only the newest model makes sense. Price is kinda steep but if it helps to reduce phone addiction I’m all for it.

[@legocat0306]

Those complaining about the price being $799, it’s literally just a placeholder. The CEO said he hasn’t came up with a set price yet and he said if it sells well, they’d be able to make it cost less (which guaranteed will happen). Expect the final price to be around $499 or $549.

[@reagantrose]

I hadn’t seen this. Makes sense! I think ~$500 would be the sweet spot if they can make it work.

[@najeefilms]

Omg $500 is better.

[@JD96893]

$500 is still ridiculous imo, better off getting a Nokia for $99...

[@blood_saint3082]

​@@JD96893 u have to understand that a phone like this has never existed so no parts r available at market for cheap prices they have to make all the parts exclusively let alone the tech with is also exclusive

[@χσχσ-ν3χ]

549 bucks for this shit

[@lilsponge777]

Thanks for the video Reagan. Keen to see how this develops, I'm definitely conscious of my time especially when you don't think you are on it that much and one of your kids says "Dad you're always on your phone". Guess it's just the carrying it around in your pocket issue.

[@nonechico]

Light phone IV will be a smartphone...

[@jabi24]

lol 😂

[@francescavideos]

I see first gen iPhone 😆

[@aaronryder4008]

It already kind of is

[@Residew]

​@@aaronryder4008no

[@Wubbay828]

Lmao 😅

[@jtcannon2293]

the real question is what colors are the text bubbles?

[@Lazzara-vu1rq]

My IRIS Easy Flip alternative. For $60 I have rugged build quality, USB-C port, headphone jack, changeable battery, zero 3rd party apps, secure OS (neither Android or iOS), a rear camera, WiFi, Bluetooth and the following native apps: Calendar, Contacts, Messages, Call History, Gallery, Voice Recorder, Music Player, Clock, Calculator and an FM Radio. Best of all, it offers excellent PHONE performance while satisfying the original DETOX objective. I'm not certain the LP3's virtual QWERTY keyboard, flashlight and privacy-risking Map app are worth an additional >$700.

[@maryl.7226]

So expensive for all it doesn’t do.

[@kevinbothwell8425]

For some, a more “limited” phone can lead to a more enriched life in general. For me the cost would be worth a more minimal experience while still feeling like I’m using a premium product that’ll last me a long time.

[@maryl.7226]

Oh I agree 1,000,000%!!! I’m one who would greatly benefit and am a bit desperate to greatly reduce my phone/ipad usage and live with far more focus and less pulls and distractions. Some things, you “can’t put a price on,” but then, at 70 on a fixed income, that $800 “price” is a tangible reality. I’m also trying to figure out how to go without a couple of medical apps (am a caregiver, plus managing my own diabetes with an app-tied CGM), it’s my cycling computer, gps and route creator, etc. Those are fairly essential lifestyle-and-health apps I’ve not figured out how to function without in what seem to me rather indispensable. But agreed - the distractions are a monster battle. The iPad is also very much tied to my work and studies - but a monster always also lurking.

[@haggleman3232]

Maybe they have monthly payments? I mean normal smart phones cost similar, we just have payment plans.

[@Orion33759]

But is it “so expensive” for all the things outside of your phone that you WILL get to do?

[@kevinbothwell8425]

@@Orion33759 the wording of your question has me a little bit confused but I think my answer is yes :)

[@calebabc]

Can you text pictures and receive them? Also can you do group text?

[@codywertanen]

switching to matte oled for responsiveness and adding a camera makes this perfect imo. Also the design is sick.

[@bautiabaro]

It would be good to know, the battery is bigger but the autonomy is going to be better or way better? For me this kind of phone should last at least 3/4 days… but let’s see

[@Olegatorslife]

How long will the battery last?

[@TheRomingBird]

Need basic features like google pay for online payment and also maps

[@Xaxaxa43]

A QWERTY keyboard would be cool on these “dumb” phones

[@davidgood840]

Checkout the Minimal Phone . It has an eink display , full Android , and a physical keyboard .

[@SpencerScottPugh]

Teehee literally planning a video like this next week 😄

[@reagantrose]

yes! curious to hear your thoughts on it!

[@PerspicaciousVG]

I'd say that it would be great if it had the necessary messaging apps for work and connecting with people. Like microsoft teams, snapchat messages, telegram, etc. I think it should have a screen time limit for the apps and it should only run the apps on messaging mode and the screen should be black and white.

[@brancroidubh5996]

They do it is called calls and texting. Go figure.

[@PerspicaciousVG]

@@brancroidubh5996 Idk texting a teacher is weird. And you can't check your work schedule and work information through texts unless you bother everyone and give everyone your personal phone number.

[@RichardLionheart12]

I use iPod and Dap and I don't have that much distraction for me I love listening to high quality music which no device gives except for DAP.

[@Trevor274]

I love the design a ton! I’d buy it in a heartbeat, but not for $500. I’m really not addicted to my smartphone anymore, and use it only out of necessity instead of mindlessly, so it’s a hard sell when compared to my iPhone, sadly.

[@cartersmith8390]

It looks fantastic, with the exception of the same deal breaker with other similar devices I've looked at - lack of any rideshare capability. Some may not be impacted as much or at all, but for many of us that's become a necessity, if not for many more something handy to have access to if needed. The smartphone alternative that successfully implements this I think many will take interest in. Hopefully it's Lightphone.

[@MaisonPulaski]

This is a great point. And, it's not like rideshare apps are a huge distraction. I think they would def fall into, "it's a tool" category and not, "it's entertainment".

[@CourtneyLukashok]

The thing is Lyft/Uber has to work with them on this. They got close with Lyft a few years ago, but weren't able to close that deal. LP is a closed OS system- although it's running a stripped down version of Android- they don't have the playstore hanging out in the back to just throw it on there.

[@RemofRenaissance]

I think the issue I have is it is cheaper to trust my ressolve and stay with say an iPhone Mini (12 or 13) without ever going on social media. I back myself to be able to do that and have been. Yes.... Maybe a smaller overall size too.

[@texasbtc]

I'm here because of the Apple announcement. Research has begun to leave the smart phones and seems like the Light Phone 3 might be the best solution. Great video.

[@Jesus2024-ey1kp]

That Apple announcement drove me to preorder the 3 for sure.

[@imasleepzz]

which apple announcement?

[@texasbtc]

@@imasleepzz I was referring to them integrating OpenAi to their iOS. Not good!

[@SNintendoFreak]

​@@imasleepzzhe explains it at 5:59

[@prashantahluwalia526]

Does it take a physical sim or an Esim

[@BrianHallmond]

Wish it had e-ink some how. Even a reverse screen? Reading kindle would be great. But as long as it has maps and a hot spot I'll be happy.

[@BrianBull]

I really really really hope the bluetooth 5.4 is supported without a headphone jack.

[@focusfernand0]

Does anyone know if it’ll be compatible with google maps?

[@connormonday]

It is not

[@DheeruMoolya]

It would have been great if they had added at least 1 payment app and maps app. Or NFC as in a higher variant.

[@TheBigNicko]

It does have NFC

[@BrianHallmond]

No maps?!?

[@badhric]

It has maps since Lightphone 2.

[@moragkelly6901]

Would love this but just can't be without whatsapp...need a feature phone supporting whatsapp to the current version 😅

[@AndreVictorGoncalves]

Take a look at the Qin f21 pro. It's android, but on a dumb phone body

[@perryhall8899]

Can it provide a wifi hotspot? Would be clutch

[@reagantrose]

It can!

[@karengreenfield5268]

Very tempting. How is the storage for pictures managed? And did you say GPS? Because that’s important. Definitely will be following for more information.

[@sm91x]

Has 5G ! Would it be able to do mobile hotspot ?

[@brandonc272]

Apple’s integration of AI into iOS was certainly the line in the sand for me. So excited for the Light Phone 3!

[@PeterSchott]

I love the idea, but for work I have need for paging and authentication apps. Those look like they wouldn't work on this. (Even for personal, "auth" apps are starting to become more necessary for MFA security.)

[@vilcheesey]

i agree on the cost. i wish it was more affordable. and I'm curious about the quality of pictures. my service provider gave me, my wife and her parents Google Pixel 7's for "free," and it's an awesome phone but like you mentioned, the phone addiction is REAL sometimes.

[@BrianHallmond]

It's a great price considering people spend that on Smart phones anyway. This one just doesn't zap your time and attention. Great investment into your self.

[@jon4715]

399 preorders affordable

[@jnjewlz]

Will it allow for loction tracking if I purchase it for a child?

[@ReaganSchiewe]

Got in on the pre-order at 50% off. Looking forward to it!

[@iamkeianaparks]

Did they add Uber or Lyft?

[@iNanieke]

Watching this on my phone in bed. I need a dumb phone 😂

[@SNintendoFreak]

I've wasted so much time and continue to waste time staring at my phone in bed or on the floor. I think I'm ready for the switch to digital minimalism.

[@FSDdriver]

You can't hook up your tesla to the phone. can't 2FA on this phone unless they allow a 2FA text method. They need to add the play store so we can add certain apps that we need to live in the digital world. I can't even get into my work without a app.

[@scottmartinetti4875]

I'm curious about the legalities of having my employees leave their personal phones in a locker and then giving them the light phone while they are out in the truck doing work in the field I would use the light phone as a GPS hotspot for a tablet in the truck so that they could still use GPS and invoice customers via internet etc

[@buttercup5470]

I have always wanted a light phone. And I really want the 3 when it comes out but does it have what’s app?

[@martijn9567]

No

[@IamProfessorO]

yes

[@skrufff]

I dig the boxy industrial design on the 3. I understand why the cost is so high, they're not a huge company, this is a low quantity run product, and they don't have recurring yearly revenue. But I'm still not sure I could dump so much money on such a thing. The pre-order discount is nice, but I don't pre-order on principle. I'll stick to trying to make my smart phone dumber. You don't need a dumb phone if you have the restraint to delete the apps that distract you. I'm a few months in to muuuuch much less social media use and I already feel an improvement in my mental health. Don't feel forced to spend money and work with what you have. Any smart phone can be dumb if you try.

[@jaunie8217]

If it's basically smartphone with a minimalist OS UI, why not release and share the OS?

[@somastudy]

I have been using the light phone for almost two years and I was really looking forward to an upgraded model. I'm a little disappointed because they got rid of the eink and they added a camera. I understand that the camera is for functionality and to capture the moment, but it's so easy to get distracted by scrolling through the photo album feature, which I ultimately don't like. The eink created such a mindful experience with the phone. The price is a no go for me - $400 USD is $650 Canadian, which is outrageous. I ended up purchasing the Hisense HiReader Pro which doesn't have a camera, but it's eink with a fast processor and you can delete apps that you don't want to have with you all the time.

[@yonatangreenberg1607]

I have the II and agree that it's solid but the lag on texting is so annoying. Does the III really not have a headphone jack? That would be so annoying if so. Im not super sold on my II but not super into the III either

[@speedismeta]

Man the price is just disgusting, they try to sell a potato at caviar price.

[@hamingnu6610]

The potato isn't out yet even now, and nor is the SRP final. $799 is the CEO's worst case scenario price if the pre orders just don't sell at all.

[@seanbinpa]

Is there a way to use this as a primary phone, but be able to keep an Android or iPhone and move the SIM card back and forth - effectively one phone number that can be moved between devices - for when you want or need to have the full smartphone experience?

[@reagantrose]

I tried to do this when I had the Light Phone II-my idea was to use that as my primary phone and just have the iPhone for when I traveled, but have the same number. There are some workarounds that kind of worked (try searching Reddit). But, unfortunately, there was nothing I found that didn't end up being a big headache in the end.

[@ripewatermelonlol]

im guessing you could go the esim route

[@Arlik]

I have also per-ordered, but I am curious how I can sync my contacts (with Google if possible) and light phone said their OS only support English, but can it display/texting more then English?

[@exan1mo]

It can display other languages and you can link your Google contacts through the Light Dashboard.

[@Arlik]

@@exan1mo I have read the light phone pages again, seems it can display languages other than English, but only can input English when launch. It said "however, the keyboard currently only supports "QWERTY", "QWERTZ" & "AZERTY" layouts, including characters like à,á,â,ä etc."

[@ominaxe]

@@Arlik Yes, as far as keyboards, that's all that is available for typing, but it displays multiple languages.

[@MattOBrienOfficial]

The ONLY thing I wish the light phone 3 had was Spotify. It’s got a music player but personally I don’t have all my music just sitting on my computer anymore. If they added Spotify so I can plug it in my car and listen to music I’m 1000% sold

[@buttercup5470]

I was not pleased with the news coming out from WWC. I am excited and can’t wait for this phone.

[@benhuremmanuel]

are those spurgeon set behind?

[@reagantrose]

yessir! good eye!

[@yogipediaid]

i want one.....

[@calebbrown7936]

I’m making it my goal to buy this phone

[@surendrapuli2907]

is e ink display still there in light phone 3??

[@cyberpunkdenton9497]

Nope, amoled

[@surendrapuli2907]

@@cyberpunkdenton9497 Thank you, I won't be interested innit then,

[@abraham0014]

So, now they’re adding convenient inconveniences like a smart phone where it becomes your much depended on genie. I think with these additions, it becomes an alternate handicap from the “smarter” smart phones….

[@BrianHallmond]

People complaining about price when they spend just as much or more on a phone anyway. The reason people want this phone is for less distractions. That's what they want! This isn't a massive company like Apple with all their dirty shortcuts. This is espe good for people who struggle to get past social media addictions and tactics. The price is fine. Especially when it will improve your focus, presence and mental health. I'm getting this and a minimal phone.

[@rinmlo]

Not being about to do WhatsApp would be a bit difficult as so many people use it for group chats etc.

[@leebeck8184]

Not liking the 5G it's a concern however I do like the "less" features.

[@tOnySi]

799 IF U DONT PRE-ORDER. FOR SOMETHING MINIMAL, U HAVETO PAY THAT MUCH. HOLY SHIT. lol HARDPASS. BIG FAN OF MINIMALISISM, but THese companies are forgetting one thing abotu Minimalists, We are CHEAP. We save money. We dont wanna spend money on something like this.

[@procarpenter1788]

Your comment tone is appropriate for the avatar you use. Unhinged.

[@michaelchurbe-yl7wh]

Just brig back palm pre HP

[@peliper17]

The camera is a double edged sword... Its GREAT to be able to take photos... but I do not want to be able to see them, on the phone itself. Its addicting too. It would be nice if one need to just transfer them to a pc to see them :)

[@seraphmcgregor927]

Can i use whatsapp and telegram on it?

[@alexdenton6586]

I’ve preordered it , only 399 until today

[@dvdolima]

July is next month, bud

[@simontsegay7959]

when you get it please do a video review asap if you can

[@mcash2189]

it's almost perfect unfortunately it has location services I want all the other things it has to offer but without location services

[@JayVavo]

My grandma has the same one 😂😂

[@ORIFuture]

If it support an esim card, I will try it out! I don't need it always but need it when I want to get out of the traffical and shitty world.

[@reagantrose]

In the technical details they say it will have both Nano and E-Sim.

[@sh0]

If they added a Telegram client, I'd be all in. I can't deal with SMS for messaging, its so antiquated

[@LiaBSakura]

I'd easily pay $800 if it had all the capabilities necessary to survive like international text/calling app, rideshare option, easier gps, music streaming without having to spend hours looking up each individual song on the website, QR codes and tickets/mobile pay.

[@Andrew-fn9np]

Hate to say this but if this is what you need in a phone, then this phone isn’t for you.

[@deeemmerthe1st]

Ahh you're right. Train ticket apps, damn. There's always paper I suppose but I bet any day now those will be taken away!

[@KentHeckel]

I’m excited about this

[@bdjnk]

The lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack is a deal-breaker for me. Also, I prefer the e-ink display and smaller size. When my LP2 dies I'll probably just buy another LP2, despite the unfortunate delicate plastic construction, tinny speakers, and no camera.

[@alaskasdaisies]

i think for the price they think now as Apple or LV. The more it's pricey the more people think it's worth it and want it because it's even more "luxurious". The problem is that Light is not enough popular to do such thing I agree that the price is a bit too much. 300$ was already enough

[@s1096cm2]

Just found this video sorry I’m a rad late to the party. I have had LP2 since September 2022. That is also the day I deleted all social media except for KZbin and it has been great. I don’t even have a smart phone anymore. Since starting this journey I have lost 60lbs, gained lots of healthy mental health. Managed to push bilateral inguinal hernias 😮 with all this free time and should be having surgery soon. And couldn’t be happier in my 16year marriage. Going dumb phone was was the smartest thing I have done on years.

[@rglopezjuarez]

Without Signal and WhatsApp I’m buying it

[@carlosespinal17]

I have LP2, holding to it for a few more months waiting for a WhatsApp update. If that doesn't happen it's byebye for me and I'll go somewhere else .

[@cardoanthony492]

Just wish they included banking

[@Benjaminnook]

I have no idea if the pricing is so that they are profitable but 799 for that is absurd. The pre order price should be it

[@jon4715]

$599 would make sense and be acceptable for the design and features, i think

[@John-n1b]

@@jon4715I really heavily disagree. The design is not innovative whatsoever, nor the technology. The concept is AMAZING. As far as features and design it’s not top notch, anything over 400 bucks for this is absolutely ridiculous. I’m sure they priced it that way because the market for this is very very small , the industry will never retreat, social media generates billions of dollars.

[@jon4715]

@@John-n1b What other phones have aluminum unibody chassis for $399? OLED display? Most importantly: a company with a history of long-term support? And don’t forget that it’s a lifestyle product…there’s a tax on that naturally.

[@PlxelGuy]

Price is essentially suicide. I understand it's meant to just include the bare basics you need for a device. But Geez 800 is crazy.

[@Allconsumingfire]

Loved it until the price.

[@MrGarryGrey]

The design is awesome. I love small phones. But... I wish it was an Android skin instead of its own OS. This is a dealbreaker. I understand what they're trying to achieve, but it's nearly impossible for them to create all the essential 3rd-party apps and services that you personally might need. I have an hour of screen time on my phone already, I'm not addicted to my phone or anything, but this kind of phone would not allow me to use services that I'm used to (like my favorite podcast app, for example or Spotify, stuff like that). I think smaller screen already limits what it can do for people who need to limits themselves, but I personally just want a smaller phone and I think it looks cute. On the other hand, 1800 mAh battery in Android phone would've been a disaster.

[@CD-se5gi]

Preorder price of $399 is nice but final price is too steep. $550 seems more reasonable. Will stick to my light II for now

[@legocat0306]

It will guaranteed be lower once release happens because the CEO said he hasn’t came up with a set final price yet. The $799 is just a placeholder.

[@swanben11]

Headphone jack. Seems like a simple one.

[@xobk]

Compare prices with the Nothing Phone 2a and wtf.

[@DDosAndDonts]

i just want the phone, it looks great. i want to root it and install vanilla android

[@humanrich]

3:55 - what is happening here?

[@reagantrose]

I mistake I didn’t catch til after I published 🤦‍♂️ It was supposed to just highlight some lines in their press release.

[@humanrich]

@@reagantrose lol all good. I was just confused hahaha.

[@jamesdavis3127]

Just imagine all the people sitting at their desks looking at Tik Tok. The phones cameras are pointed directly at your documents, computer screens, spec sheets and prints. A.I. is devouring the info. This is why I love the Ligthphone 2 since it's so basic.

[@iamkeianaparks]

The only thing keeping me from going full throttle with light Phone is not having access to Uber or Lyft

[@balamuruganm2019]

Is it worked in india?

[@DitoAldiSoekarnoPutra]

Nothing works in India

[@kingshukdebnath6848]

LP III will work in India with Airtel, VI and JIO.

[@balamuruganm2019]

@@kingshukdebnath6848 thank 6

[@balamuruganm2019]

@@kingshukdebnath6848 thank you

[@rongkimkathar6184]

Light phone would have been better if it was in a blackberry body but without the internet connectivity of course

[@jon4715]

Keyboard would have made this actually a good phone.

[@exan1mo]

One of the things a lot of people complaining about the price don’t realize is that cheaper phones are subsidized by your data.

[@philtheo]

Honestly, and unfortunately, even expensive phones are "subsidized by your data"... 🥴

[@ominaxe]

@@philtheo True, but at least I get a sweet chipset and OS with those expensive ones. xD

[@philtheo]

@@ominaxe But either way your original complaint (which I agree with) about "subsidized by your data" applies to any of these phones. So it doesn't matter what you get or don't get. Obviously you tend to get more if you pay for more. But the "data" issue is still an issue. You need to get an open source phone to better avoid the data issue, but that has its own issues too.

[@exan1mo]

@@philtheo Which app on the Light phone is taking data? Here maps? Directory? It’s still waaaay better than something with a browser or play store.

[@rioshiba]

Light phone, heavy price. :D

[@GoWithBlue]

I'm having a 200 dollars phone... n I think if it would become necessary for a shift then I'll probably shift to a dumb phone instead of a pricey tech