REAL or FAKE? HUNTING Chinese porcelain in Hong Kong

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Goldendives

Goldendives

Күн бұрын

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@duanewarder34
@duanewarder34 4 жыл бұрын
The brush holder is early republic period very nicely done. The vase is a flambe glazed but did not turn out too well. The pooling on the foot technique can not be done properly today and has been lost. Grinding/filing of glaze is found on newer pieces (you picked one up). The shape is 18c probably around the Yongzhen period. The "patina" is supposed to be red while the green is supposed to be just a slight hue and the glaze looks like it dripped too far down the vessel.
@StuninRub
@StuninRub 7 ай бұрын
Nothing about that brush holder is too complicated to be done today.
@petecabrina
@petecabrina 4 ай бұрын
The brush washer isn't Republic, the scene isn't even that very well done, the enamels are weak, the porcelain is low quality and this type of scene is copied all the time, you see it on plaques quite a lot. It has even been deliberately made to look dirty to try to fake age which is always a red flag. Nothing in this market is old and most of it is not even decent quality, the carved vases were nice quality but still modern. The vase he bought glued to the stand is also modern, its all just made to look old, even the gluing to the stand lol They will even fake repairs these days and use fake dealers and collectors sticker. Chinese porcelain is a nightmare really if you want to be a collector, but you are much better off trying to find things in western countries, especially in Europe.
@ArtLoversLab
@ArtLoversLab 2 ай бұрын
@@petecabrina excellent explanation, thank you, i would like to find a course to begin in this world, but as you say is a nightmare, thank you
@petecabrina
@petecabrina 2 ай бұрын
@@ArtLoversLab you just have to spend years and years looking at items until it becomes ingrained into your brain, and you need a passion for it. Peter Combs here in YT is the perfect place to start though, his videos are very good and he has a great broad knowledge of Chinese and Japanese antiques. Finding the good international sellers on ebay will help too and to start purchasing genuine items. Peter's website is good for this too, he lists genuine items up for sale all the time and even has a list of the good and bad auction houses, he is also regularly doing videos of upcoming auctions from good sales.
@yangtzeling7468
@yangtzeling7468 4 жыл бұрын
The replicas are so good that it takes a professional to differentiate. I would say 99.9% of the stuff you come across in the streets are fake. No way will a seller leave a genuine US$400 item on the roadside to be handled.
@yangtzeling7468
@yangtzeling7468 3 жыл бұрын
@@dwls9986 The “ crazy price “ fools people into thinking it’s a genuine authentic piece.
@tlungzen1192
@tlungzen1192 3 жыл бұрын
@@yangtzeling7468 in New York one guy throw Chinese emperor tea pot in trash so you can be lucky enough to get one
@yangtzeling7468
@yangtzeling7468 3 жыл бұрын
@@tlungzen1192 I have no idea what you are saying.
@andycmw7216
@andycmw7216 3 жыл бұрын
They look great far better from mainland that for sure because Hong Kong ppi are too picky
@yangtzeling7468
@yangtzeling7468 3 жыл бұрын
@@andycmw7216 ???
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 5 жыл бұрын
"it's the wild west" of Chinese antiques and not so antique. A fun day none the less.
@Goldendives
@Goldendives 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter! Thanks for commenting, that's true, it's like avoiding a rain of bullets! ..what do you think about my catches? I'd like to hear your wise opinion about them.. don't worry, I know already that they are not masterpieces! ahahah
@joncan2348
@joncan2348 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, You study my pieces and consult for me. I can't believe I bumped into you here.
@denimlabels7315
@denimlabels7315 5 жыл бұрын
The brush washer looks Republic. That green vase looks really interesting. Older base....looks like it has some potential.
@eccuk777
@eccuk777 2 жыл бұрын
it is a bit late (if you still have it!)...one of the poem is: 扁舟一棹歸何處?家在江南黃葉村 by 蘇軾, the other one is 大江來從萬山中,山勢盡與江流東 by 高啟 year says 丙子年 which is 1936, I can't make out the aritist name though as the vid is a bit fuzzy :) it is 40USD so I think no matter what it is that's not too expensive 😀
@applepie9806
@applepie9806 3 жыл бұрын
For the first one you bought, the words in black on the front and sides are poems, very poetic but I can read only half of it, like "house in jiang nan" and "light wind brightness" which means something like "refreshing sublime view". Chinese poems are hard to translate sometimes. The bottom is the name of company from Jiangxi that made it. Everything is read top to bottom, right to left. It's quite nice but since it's a company name it's probably mass produced? Try using Google Lens on it.
@lanli4909
@lanli4909 5 жыл бұрын
The brush hold is made from Jiangxi instead of jiangsu.
@gigiclements8318
@gigiclements8318 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so obsessed with bowls... All kinds of bowls. Thanks for sharing your great marketplace finds 😊🤠
@Goldendives
@Goldendives 5 жыл бұрын
Bowls are useless but charming ahah
@gigiclements8318
@gigiclements8318 5 жыл бұрын
@@Goldendives bowls hold yummy things and beautiful things ❤️ I adore them.
@goldengateart8847
@goldengateart8847 4 жыл бұрын
@@Goldendives Thank you for the informative video. Where does this take place in Hong Kong?
@bradlybradshaw5972
@bradlybradshaw5972 5 ай бұрын
Wow the green vase cleaned up soooo nice! Love the vid!
@藏物纳钩
@藏物纳钩 2 жыл бұрын
Both are modern copies
@applepie9806
@applepie9806 3 жыл бұрын
The red vase with mint green inside is quite beautiful, however I've seen something like it sold online
@daveaquatics7918
@daveaquatics7918 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I enjoy watching. The two pcs you bought very nice. I also like vases. The green vase is beautiful.
@anerolllanes3737
@anerolllanes3737 5 жыл бұрын
How pretty, Chinese pottery...
@MorningViewz
@MorningViewz 5 жыл бұрын
I love both pieces you bought, if you found out more let me know! I'm curious too. Is the brush washer republic or earlier? Awesome vids!
@zenzen4439
@zenzen4439 5 жыл бұрын
Even if these things are fake looks extremely beautiful...but very hugh priced 😍🙄
@joncan2348
@joncan2348 5 жыл бұрын
👋
@suggssecurity
@suggssecurity 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always 👍
@applepie9806
@applepie9806 3 жыл бұрын
The cloisonne looks a little broken, not worth it to be honest. A lot of enamel works are quite fragile and don't weather very well and it looks like the family didn't take care of theirs properly, even if it's real.
@albertchiu655
@albertchiu655 Жыл бұрын
most are imitated !
@assemagamia5904
@assemagamia5904 4 жыл бұрын
I have nice porcelain vase I have burchased fro antique shops in egypt ,he told me itis handmade and almost 70 years old Could I contact you to evaluate it ?!
@applepie9806
@applepie9806 3 жыл бұрын
you should contact expert in egyptian objects. There's specialists for each history
@fredy271185
@fredy271185 5 жыл бұрын
u should buy the red vase one with green colour inside, 8000hkd both, bargain 6000hkd for both
@paulokiryuu
@paulokiryuu 5 жыл бұрын
I got interested in Chinese antiquities and I'm going to China in December but I will probably stick with what is cheap since I'm not chinese or have knowledge to distinguish what is real and what is fake.
@TheFiown
@TheFiown 4 жыл бұрын
Just keep in mind that everything is fake and you should pay much less than they ask. When I moved to China they told me to pay only 10% of the asking price and each time they accepted ,,, If you Watch other videos of specialists buying you can see that most of these vases cost only a few dollars from the factory. As I've said above, the Chinese have an expression ' The only thing old in China is my gradmother' !
@applepie9806
@applepie9806 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFiown XDXDD that's a good one, chinese grandmas live very long, 90+ is a given in my family. Not surprised that everything is overpriced, these places are probably tourists traps by now. I've found plenty of ripoffs online too, it's wise to haggle for much lower.
@mery8823
@mery8823 2 жыл бұрын
Proses
@makaluma3672
@makaluma3672 Жыл бұрын
Where is this in Hong Kong, anyone please?
@keithharris7569
@keithharris7569 3 жыл бұрын
Buying Chinese art is like buying an expensive lottery ticket with a million to one chance of hitting the jackpot....
@Adorotsukasatenma
@Adorotsukasatenma 5 жыл бұрын
Haha hai toppato.. 7:00 non sono originali Il sigillo portava la marca di Qianlong.. E quelle non hanno più di 20 anni di vita Poi si capisce anche da colore interno non e assolutamente del epoca Qianlong..
@gmmercurejayapura6124
@gmmercurejayapura6124 4 жыл бұрын
where is the adress of this place in HK--?
@jackh7183
@jackh7183 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid. Thanks
@applepie9806
@applepie9806 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh I'd buy the real blade.
@john-ku9kj
@john-ku9kj Жыл бұрын
the black color is too deep,it“s new。
@gustacano1749
@gustacano1749 3 жыл бұрын
The green one is fake. Cost 0 NADA. CERO.
@kenrogers1118
@kenrogers1118 5 жыл бұрын
Dude buy those supreme caps 10:42
@TheFiown
@TheFiown 4 жыл бұрын
The Chinese have an expression, ' The only thing old in China is my grandmother', that should give you a hint !
@BrianFrenchinternet-marketing
@BrianFrenchinternet-marketing 2 жыл бұрын
Just terrible... you would have a better chance of finding a gem in a US yard sale.
@kurtislam5256
@kurtislam5256 5 жыл бұрын
1:55 He said it is 3800HKD
@itsrewiquintal
@itsrewiquintal 5 жыл бұрын
Release more videos please!
@andycmw7216
@andycmw7216 3 жыл бұрын
The white indeed from early 60’s it for exports. Both very nice old stuff
@hellonumismatic
@hellonumismatic 4 жыл бұрын
BIRO KING STAR channel antique & numismatic / Ind.
@kwxj61b
@kwxj61b 5 жыл бұрын
at around 12:30 with your second purchase. I think that belong to the cemetery. Hope the dead owner's ghost doesn't haunt you to return it back...LOL.
@liangzhang3003
@liangzhang3003 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they are all fake.
@gustacano1749
@gustacano1749 3 жыл бұрын
How why?
@boereboere
@boereboere 6 ай бұрын
all new things, the green vase some age, maybe Shiwan. Ask why the vase very dirty, but the stand is not. Fakery.
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